Re: [ubuntu-art] Edubuntu Hardy Artwork
> With all the hulabulu about the Ubuntu art people forget about Edubuntu. Hi, I did a wallpaper for some kids a few years ago. Maybe it will suit Edubuntu in some small way. Attached. HTH, \d -- Fonty Python and other dev news at: http://otherwiseingle.blogspot.com/ kids_desktop.svg.tar.gz Description: application/tgz -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Unified menu/menubaritem
I asked about the eXperience engine earlier. I saw a screenshot with a one peice menubaritem and menu. I finally got the engine to install, but it's buggy. I looked at the code for the menu and it's way beyond me. Compiz is still a problem. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/Union?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=menuExperience.png > Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 18:31:08 +0100 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] Union mock-up compiz problem. > > A menu is a new XWindow. Compiz draws a shadow around it, because it does > this with all windows. I think it will be difficult to tell Compiz the > position of the menubaritem. Unfortunately this is a completely different > case then a GtkNotebook. > > On Jan 8, 2008 6:06 PM, xl cheese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Perhaps we can reuse the code that draws the gtkNotebook. > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/Union?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=C__Documents+and+Settings_whayslip_My+Documents_My+Pictures_twf.png > > > > > > > > > >> Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 17:40:56 +0100 >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> To: ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com >> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] Union mock-up compiz problem. > >> >> On 08/01/2008, xl cheese < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> That's actually the way clearlooks comes out of the box. I just adjusted >>> the color inside the engine to highlight the apps/places/system with the >>> normal bg color instead of orange. >>> >>> I wonder if the engine could draw the tab/menu combo as one widget and >>> compiz would recognize it and draw the shadow the way we want? >>> >> >> If I understand correctly you suggest using some kind of shaped window >> for menu+tab_header and then overlay that the normal menu button. That >> might work if done correctly, but it is quite tricky I think. >> >> While it might be technically possibly for the theme to rewrite the >> window position for the popup (to have it north-east corner match that >> of the panel button), I think it is a can of worms. This might trigger >> all kinds of unknown position and focus bugs (which are notoriously >> hard to right). >> >> And alternative solution is to patch gtk+ itself, but that will >> probably break all theme not using this trick... >> >> Sorry, if I sound negative. I shall twist my brain to try and come up >> with more constructive response... >> >> Cheers, >> Mikkel >> >> >>> Looking at the potential dropdown problem of one item flowing into the next, >>> plus the shadow at the same intersection, why not go the opposite direction? >>> >>> Where the music selection has the solid orange highlight, why not copy it >>> onto the places button? That way the highlight has continuity with the >>> button, and it eliminates both the shadow and the border issue. So really, >>> just make places the solid orange too. >>> >>> Amazing work! >>> -- Ken V >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jan 7, 2008 6:25 PM, xl cheese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> I think compiz will put a damper on the nice menus and menubaritem >>> combination. >>> >>> Compiz puts a shadow all the way around the menu. >>> >>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/Union?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=menu.png >>> >>> It may also be tricky to have the engine draw the 1px border around the menu >>> except for the intersection of the menu and menubaritem. I'm sure the right >>> programmer could make it happen tho. >>> Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 01:44:02 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: [ubuntu-art] Union mock-up updates ending. Updates to the union mock ups and sources are officially ending. While >>> working on the most recent update, my laptop froze completely, and now it >>> appears to be completely dead. Because I'm beginning military training on >>> the 13th, there's no point in fixing the 6-year old beast of a laptop. The data might be fine (I think it's the graphics card), and I'm going to >>> plug my hard-drive into a desktop computer to see if I still have my work; >>> depending on how this goes, I might get one more update loaded into the >>> wiki, after that I'll make the most of my time with the family before I >>> leave. If my data is corrupt or irretrievable, then I'll be forced to forget >>> any more updates. The 0.4 update was the second last planned before calling the theme design >>> "final". It unified outlines throughout the theme, added an additional >>> button to the bottom of the windows, and overall had some colour balancing. >>> If anyone wants to get a step closer to the planned design, follow the steps >>> below: - Brown lines throughout the chrome receive 35% opacity, including drag >>> circles. - Window frame button outlines receive converted tab outlines, becoming >>
Re: [ubuntu-art] Edubuntu Hardy Artwork
I think it needs a red icon theme, how might I do this? -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Edubuntu Hardy Artwork
I'm downloading the edubuntu icons and stuff to see if i can improve it -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Edubuntu Hardy Artwork
Hmm... I was thinking about the stuff like the backround and the window theme, not the login window, since that is a nice login screen. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] New titlebar (Metacity theme) for Hardy
Perhaps a slight change to the metacity to remove the gloss and button borders. I also added a thin colored border around the window. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/SmoothMergedGradients?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=HumanMetacity.png > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 21:30:49 +0100 > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] New titlebar (Metacity theme) for Hardy > > Hi, > > thanks for the feedback but I'd like to point out, that I do not propose > my theme to get implemented in Ubuntu (it's just a theme I created for > myself), so it's not really up for debate here. > The screenshots were only to depict my proposal to get rid of the brown > in the titlebar and create a brand new Metacity theme that emphasises > the beauty of the Human GTK theme. > > The number of buttons couldn't be done in Metacity anyway and since it > doesn't support hover-animations for inactive windows either, it would > look more like this: > http://blogage.de/files/1444/image?ubuntuclean-metacity-like.png > (although I agree, then the buttons are a little small... but again, > it's just an idea - if anybody likes this particular theme, I'd be happy > to improve it but it was only meant to show how different the GTK theme > can look with a titlebar that looks more clean and orange). > > > Regards, > Nick > > > -- > ubuntu-art mailing list > ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art _ Put your friends on the big screen with Windows Vista® + Windows Live™. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/shop/specialoffers.mspx?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_CPC_MediaCtr_bigscreen_012008 -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] New titlebar (Metacity theme) for Hardy
Hi, thanks for the feedback but I'd like to point out, that I do not propose my theme to get implemented in Ubuntu (it's just a theme I created for myself), so it's not really up for debate here. The screenshots were only to depict my proposal to get rid of the brown in the titlebar and create a brand new Metacity theme that emphasises the beauty of the Human GTK theme. The number of buttons couldn't be done in Metacity anyway and since it doesn't support hover-animations for inactive windows either, it would look more like this: http://blogage.de/files/1444/image?ubuntuclean-metacity-like.png (although I agree, then the buttons are a little small... but again, it's just an idea - if anybody likes this particular theme, I'd be happy to improve it but it was only meant to show how different the GTK theme can look with a titlebar that looks more clean and orange). Regards, Nick -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] New titlebar (Metacity theme) for Hardy
The theme has some nice touches (I am a fan of all things glossy) though I have 3 deal-breaker scale problems with this theme: 1) It uses a *lot* of space which is not utilized fully (the generous borders and the like - remember "average" users are only just beginning to get beyond 1024x786 and with two panels you can't afford to waste this! 2) The buttons is small compared to the general size of the theme - this feels inefficient (brought up to meet the borders they could look very nice - i certainly like them) 3) No other differentiation between focused and un-focused windows that subtle changes (the oxygen guys have the exact same problem on KDE 4) this is a real problem for bright themes (especially when end users are not using compositing (I my self have a system beyond what is required for it but I choose not to run it and I don't want to feel that I am making a trade off in basic functionality) The lack of an application icon also seems fairly pointless when exchanged for "exta" buttons which the "average" user might not use) Sorry to have so far been a "neigh sayer" but those are my problems with this proposal. On a positive note I do like the use of light colours throughout, something which many feel welcome given how dark some theme proposals have been. I am also in agreement with you about the metacity theme. While the style does look nice when changed to another colour (in my opinion anyway - its a good mix between style and non-distracting for me). I also especially like the Human icons - they bring over some of the professionalism that gives it an edge over the equivalent crystal (or possibly oxygen but less so) icons but without falling into the "traditional GNOME icon style" which seems to encompass tango and of course the GNOME icon set who's icons seem a little skinny and windows-98 gray ish for my liking. On 12/01/2008, Nick Bauermeister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Now that it's certain we will continue to have the Human GTK theme in > Hardy (which I think is a good idea, I still like - and use - it anyway) > we should talk about changing the Metacity theme. > To be honest, it's the only thing I don't like about Ubuntu's look and I > know others feel the same, because the most talked about issue with > Ubtunu's artwork is "the brown". > But if you look at it, the only brown thing about Human is the window's > titlebars (and the wallpaper but that's the easiest part to change). > > I think a titlebar change would make a whole different (better) > impression of the Human theme. > > In general, Hardy should aim for a brighter, orange look and ditch the > brown completely. > > Here's a screenshot of my current setup: > http://blogage.de/files/1440/image?screen1.png > Note that it's almost "standard Ubuntu". > > And with a look at the wallpaper > http://blogage.de/files/1441/image?screen2.png > It's (a patched version of one) from the "Orange pack" taken from > http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Gutsy > > The titlebar is designed by myself using Emerald Theme manager but I > think it would be easy creating something similar for Metacity: > http://blogage.de/files/1442/image?ubuntuclean.png > (the widgets on inactive windows get visible when hovering the mouse > pointer over them) > > > I don't propose that it has to be that particular theme but something > along this way would be a nice visible change as well as easy to > implement. > > > -- > ubuntu-art mailing list > ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art > -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Edubuntu Hardy Artwork
On Saturday 12 January 2008 16:49:36 Cory K. wrote: > SzerencseFia wrote: > > Sure I can help out to. I will open my project on Launchpad and the > > theme I create there will be available for any gnome based ...buntu. > > > > As soon as I have opened the project I will let all you know. > > e [SzerencseFia] > > I don't think a LP project is necessary. A page under: > https://wiki.edubuntu.org/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy should be fine. I am > currently in-process of shaping up the Edubuntu art packages. > https://launchpad.net/edubuntu-look. I'm not aiming this work at Hardy > unless we really start to generate alot of work soon. > > I should also say we need people who can do GDMs and Usplashes more than > anything. Wallpapers and themes are easer IMO. actually, edubuntu does not use gdm but another *dm which sends all the graphics over the network so although it is very similar it does have limitations which gdm does not have. > The icon set will most likely stay the same. > > -Cory \m/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Edubuntu Hardy Artwork
SzerencseFia wrote: > Sorry I was late and I made a project. > https://launchpad.net/edubuntu-art-backup I think you can delete projects. To me, this will just duplicate the work needed for packaging. If you don't readily see how, ask on #launchpad. All the artwork could be done on the WIKI and moved to edubuntu-look later. Which should be the official art package later. Much like the Ubuntu art is handled. -Cory -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Edubuntu Hardy Artwork
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sorry I was late and I made a project. https://launchpad.net/edubuntu-art-backup Cory K. wrote: > SzerencseFia wrote: >> Sure I can help out to. I will open my project on Launchpad and the >> theme I create there will be available for any gnome based ...buntu. >> >> As soon as I have opened the project I will let all you know. >> e [SzerencseFia] > > I don't think a LP project is necessary. A page under: > https://wiki.edubuntu.org/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy should be fine. I am > currently in-process of shaping up the Edubuntu art packages. > https://launchpad.net/edubuntu-look. I'm not aiming this work at Hardy > unless we really start to generate alot of work soon. > > I should also say we need people who can do GDMs and Usplashes more than > anything. Wallpapers and themes are easer IMO. > > The icon set will most likely stay the same. > > -Cory \m/ > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHiPRSc8+hN/JiJx4RApWZAJ0YHGDrobYOBc1tynVhz1x0x+q93wCfcsgS O30+tWVFb+3b658cBT9k5cQ= =Bj/d -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] New titlebar (Metacity theme) for Hardy
Now that it's certain we will continue to have the Human GTK theme in Hardy (which I think is a good idea, I still like - and use - it anyway) we should talk about changing the Metacity theme. To be honest, it's the only thing I don't like about Ubuntu's look and I know others feel the same, because the most talked about issue with Ubtunu's artwork is "the brown". But if you look at it, the only brown thing about Human is the window's titlebars (and the wallpaper but that's the easiest part to change). I think a titlebar change would make a whole different (better) impression of the Human theme. In general, Hardy should aim for a brighter, orange look and ditch the brown completely. Here's a screenshot of my current setup: http://blogage.de/files/1440/image?screen1.png Note that it's almost "standard Ubuntu". And with a look at the wallpaper http://blogage.de/files/1441/image?screen2.png It's (a patched version of one) from the "Orange pack" taken from http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Gutsy The titlebar is designed by myself using Emerald Theme manager but I think it would be easy creating something similar for Metacity: http://blogage.de/files/1442/image?ubuntuclean.png (the widgets on inactive windows get visible when hovering the mouse pointer over them) I don't propose that it has to be that particular theme but something along this way would be a nice visible change as well as easy to implement. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Edubuntu Hardy Artwork
SzerencseFia wrote: > Sure I can help out to. I will open my project on Launchpad and the > theme I create there will be available for any gnome based ...buntu. > > As soon as I have opened the project I will let all you know. > e [SzerencseFia] I don't think a LP project is necessary. A page under: https://wiki.edubuntu.org/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy should be fine. I am currently in-process of shaping up the Edubuntu art packages. https://launchpad.net/edubuntu-look. I'm not aiming this work at Hardy unless we really start to generate alot of work soon. I should also say we need people who can do GDMs and Usplashes more than anything. Wallpapers and themes are easer IMO. The icon set will most likely stay the same. -Cory \m/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Edubuntu Hardy Artwork
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sure I can help out to. I will open my project on Launchpad and the theme I create there will be available for any gnome based ...buntu. As soon as I have opened the project I will let all you know. e [SzerencseFia] Cory K. wrote: > With all the hulabulu about the Ubuntu art people forget about Edubuntu. > They have _NO_ team for this and have barely updated since Edgy. If you > wanna have a great chance at seeing your art there it's wide open. > > There was a update to gartoon called GNUtoon that will most likely be > used. > http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/GNUtoon?content=70206&PHPSESSID=d6d2d7f3a8d767a1985b801481aaf1c1 > > So hey, what do ya think? I'm sure we can rock the Edubuntu art. :) > > -Cory \m/ > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHiNuOc8+hN/JiJx4RAn6AAJ9k8HITkJ+JrcpXIi8IFAwIyvcWKgCfbWo0 3sE371LLzwuX+vJF9pTTK2Q= =pt7a -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Friday Feisty 'o Fun Features
I was thinking to help encourage everyone to make features, including myself. We could have a little challenge. How about everyone who would like to, make a feature for a currently existing theme set and then show there work off on the next Friday. I personally will be working on the cocoHead theme. Try to make the images as close to the original theme style as possible and then I can take them all and merge them together. You can all email them to this mail list on friday's and then I can add them. Or simply make a repo or site location you would like to put them at. :D What you do guys think... good idea? If so I will blog about it and I hope that everyone else can too. Really want to get as many people into this as possible. Jason -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
