Re: [ubuntu-art] wav instead of ogg - ATTN KEN (kwwii)

2008-02-02 Thread Troy James Sobotka
Carlos Moreno wrote:
 If that's not the case in this list  (that is, if this list is intended
 for people to send files as attachments), please guys let me
 know, in which case I would be forced to unsubscribe from
 the list.

Ken - perhaps we should announce this as a rule for the list to abide by?

I have been under the impression that smaller attachments were
acceptable, but perhaps this view suffers from poor optics based on the
varying levels of connection.

I would forward a motion to ban all attachments from this list in the
interest of keeping _everyone_ able to participate in the discussions.
From this point onwards, no attachments would be considered acceptable
with a link to the threads when someone 'violates' the conduct.
Acceptable means of presenting work would then fall into the URL link
format to an external source.  This could also be coupled with a file
size / thumbnail warning etc.

Trying desperately to not be too 'political' about this, but I feel
losing list participants is far more detrimental than deterring attachments.

Fair?

Sincerely,
TJS



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Re: [ubuntu-art] hardy artwork

2008-02-02 Thread Sumit Chandra Agarwal
I think the strongest offering so far is this one:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/Fela_Kuti
All desktops, Mac, Vista, etc are trying to present 'clean modern' 
desktops, and have been for the last few years. In fact, the trend seems 
to be somewhat forward of that, going past modernist desktops to 
something more textured or detailed, but still clean.

I think this is a graphic that has the chance not only to 'catch up' 
visually with the other OS default desktops, but to even leap frog 
ahead. Its beautiful, hip, clean, and even thematic.

Best,
Sumit

François Degrave wrote:
 Hi all,

 This mail attempts to clear up some issues in the art direction for Hardy 
 Ubuntu. As already stated we will not be changing things radically. Here are 
 some of the things I would like to see changed and some possible ideas for 
 them.

 1) Wallpaper: Ideally dark and mysterious yet modern, clear and clean
 a) It should use the palette (in a previous post, email me if you missed 
 it)
 
 Hi,

 For the wallpaper, you should check this one : 
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/Autumn_Reflections_Wallpaper?action=AttachFiledo=gettarget=autumnreflectionsHD.jpg

 It looks really clean and modern, and it matches the palette.

 Cheers,

 fde

   


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Re: [ubuntu-art] hardy artwork

2008-02-02 Thread Dylan McCall
I like the style of the autumn one. It is inspiring, starting one's day with
ideas. A great way for one's Ubuntu experience - possibly his first big step
into open software - to begin!
It is also gender neutral; as somebody mentioned in the Ubuntu forums, the
abstract shapes seem to be kind of a masculine thing. An image with actual
form and substance, on the other hand, can appeal to everyone.

I *really* like Sumit's link. Again, that image is very rich and alive.
Instead of the computer booting to a cold and simple desktop, we have
something really exciting and imaginative. I remember with the GIMP splash
screens it is often on the top of peoples' minds to create an inspiring
image, and that should be no different for Ubuntu.
...Gee, it is even an SVG! I say pull out the Ubuntu logo, then dump it in
the Hardy alpha to see how people react. Pronto! :P

Bye,
-Dylan McCall

On Sat, Feb 2, 2008 at 8:52 AM, Sumit Chandra Agarwal 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I think the strongest offering so far is this one:
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/Fela_Kuti
 All desktops, Mac, Vista, etc are trying to present 'clean modern'
 desktops, and have been for the last few years. In fact, the trend seems
 to be somewhat forward of that, going past modernist desktops to
 something more textured or detailed, but still clean.

 I think this is a graphic that has the chance not only to 'catch up'
 visually with the other OS default desktops, but to even leap frog
 ahead. Its beautiful, hip, clean, and even thematic.

 Best,
 Sumit

 François Degrave wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  This mail attempts to clear up some issues in the art direction for
 Hardy
  Ubuntu. As already stated we will not be changing things radically.
 Here are
  some of the things I would like to see changed and some possible ideas
 for
  them.
 
  1) Wallpaper: Ideally dark and mysterious yet modern, clear and clean
  a) It should use the palette (in a previous post, email me if you
 missed
  it)
 
  Hi,
 
  For the wallpaper, you should check this one :
 
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/Autumn_Reflections_Wallpaper?action=AttachFiledo=gettarget=autumnreflectionsHD.jpg
 
  It looks really clean and modern, and it matches the palette.
 
  Cheers,
 
  fde
 
 


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[ubuntu-art] How to find the right wallpaper...

2008-02-02 Thread Dylan McCall
I thought Gutsy had a lot of wallpaper suggestions, but the response for
Hardy is phenomenal! What's more? These are all great.

Of course, Mark has the final pick here, but I think something should be in
place to guage the community's interests - a lot of people running the Hardy
alphas seem to pay little attention to the wiki or mailing lists. I think it
would make sense to be trying a different potential wallpaper in the alpha
every week or so, such that all the users can voice their thoughts and
concerns. It would make a lot more sense to try these out early than to try
picking one and see how it goes at the last minute.
Note that I am not pondering a vote, but an efficient and straight-forward
way that we could decide which wallpapers do and do not work well in action.

Bye,
-Dylan McCall
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Re: [ubuntu-art] hardy artwork

2008-02-02 Thread Sumit Chandra Agarwal
Dylan,

You have a great point on the gender neutrality. I think for the 
overwhelming majority of us as tech-oriented guys its a little hard to 
get out of our heads. Now, that's perfectly fine for most Ubuntu 
developers, but for us working on concepts of UI and presentation maybe 
we should explore techniques for seeing Ubuntu from other points of 
view. To start with, it would probably help to keep in mind that we're 
not just designing for *us* and what we personally would set our desktop 
up like.

Glad you like that image. I can't take credit for it though. I don't 
think the branding on it is too bad, but how much branding do you see on 
desktop wallpapers nowadays? If ultimately the decision is to keep 
branding, I would be inclined to removed the 'grey' logo and instead 
subtly turn one of the 'ink swirls' into a small, stylized Ubuntu logo 
that blends in with the rest of the art style, and seems not to be there 
unless you look for it.

Best,
-Sumit

Dylan McCall wrote:
 I like the style of the autumn one. It is inspiring, starting one's 
 day with ideas. A great way for one's Ubuntu experience - possibly his 
 first big step into open software - to begin!
 It is also gender neutral; as somebody mentioned in the Ubuntu 
 forums, the abstract shapes seem to be kind of a masculine thing. An 
 image with actual form and substance, on the other hand, can appeal to 
 everyone.

 I /really/ like Sumit's link. Again, that image is very rich and 
 alive. Instead of the computer booting to a cold and simple desktop, 
 we have something really exciting and imaginative. I remember with the 
 GIMP splash screens it is often on the top of peoples' minds to create 
 an inspiring image, and that should be no different for Ubuntu.
 ...Gee, it is even an SVG! I say pull out the Ubuntu logo, then dump 
 it in the Hardy alpha to see how people react. Pronto! :P

 Bye,
 -Dylan McCall

 On Sat, Feb 2, 2008 at 8:52 AM, Sumit Chandra Agarwal 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I think the strongest offering so far is this one:
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/Fela_Kuti
 All desktops, Mac, Vista, etc are trying to present 'clean modern'
 desktops, and have been for the last few years. In fact, the trend
 seems
 to be somewhat forward of that, going past modernist desktops to
 something more textured or detailed, but still clean.

 I think this is a graphic that has the chance not only to 'catch up'
 visually with the other OS default desktops, but to even leap frog
 ahead. Its beautiful, hip, clean, and even thematic.

 Best,
 Sumit

 François Degrave wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  This mail attempts to clear up some issues in the art direction
 for Hardy
  Ubuntu. As already stated we will not be changing things
 radically. Here are
  some of the things I would like to see changed and some
 possible ideas for
  them.
 
  1) Wallpaper: Ideally dark and mysterious yet modern, clear and
 clean
  a) It should use the palette (in a previous post, email me
 if you missed
  it)
 
  Hi,
 
  For the wallpaper, you should check this one :
 
 
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/Autumn_Reflections_Wallpaper?action=AttachFiledo=gettarget=autumnreflectionsHD.jpg
 
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/Autumn_Reflections_Wallpaper?action=AttachFiledo=gettarget=autumnreflectionsHD.jpg
 
  It looks really clean and modern, and it matches the palette.
 
  Cheers,
 
  fde
 
 


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Re: [ubuntu-art] How to find the right wallpaper...

2008-02-02 Thread Sumit Chandra Agarwal
I do like that idea of cycling through wallpapers in the alphas. The 
alpha needs default wallpaper anyway, so why waste it on old designs 
when it is basically a no-risk chance to experiment?

I've only just gotten involved with Ubuntu and for a new participant it 
is extremely confusing and difficult to figure out where to start. I 
guess much of this comes from the nature of a community effort, but I 
feel things could be bit more centralized or organized. For one, the 
Wiki could use better organization and perhaps even pruning. Looking at 
the Hardy wallpaper section there it is ambiguous what the section 
'alternate' means. Does it mean 'alternating from what has already been' 
or 'alternate packages for user download' or 'alternate preloaded 
wallpaper library'? Once within the 'alternate' section those pages and 
documents that are related to guidelines and design specifications are 
given equal weight, and thus buried alongside, those pages that are 
abandoned tests involving platypuses (platypi?).

Not to get off-topic, but how can we better organize the art and design 
efforts? I ask this specifically because it is where we are most likely 
to draw in new non-technical participants and those not already familiar 
with the open-source process.

-Sumit

Dylan McCall wrote:
 I thought Gutsy had a lot of wallpaper suggestions, but the response 
 for Hardy is phenomenal! What's more? These are all great.

 Of course, Mark has the final pick here, but I think something should 
 be in place to guage the community's interests - a lot of people 
 running the Hardy alphas seem to pay little attention to the wiki or 
 mailing lists. I think it would make sense to be trying a different 
 potential wallpaper in the alpha every week or so, such that all the 
 users can voice their thoughts and concerns. It would make a lot more 
 sense to try these out early than to try picking one and see how it 
 goes at the last minute.
 Note that I am not pondering a vote, but an efficient and 
 straight-forward way that we could decide which wallpapers do and do 
 not work well in action.

 Bye,
 -Dylan McCall


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Re: [ubuntu-art] hardy artwork

2008-02-02 Thread Sumit Chandra Agarwal
I really love everything about it. No other wallpaper quite says Ubuntu 
is different from Mac and Vista like this image does. Its 
gender-neutral, hip, and there's a certain wonderful whimsical 
forward-looking emotion captured in that upturned face.
If Hardy does adopt this, and it is successful, it could also set a 
blueprint for future wallpapers as stylized paintings (with the 
stylization gradually changing to match current cultural styles) of the 
release-name-animal.

I hope I'm not getting too excited here,
-Sumit
P.S. I wish we knew who the artist was so we could get them on the list!

Sav vas wrote:
 I love it (Fela Kuti). This could very much be the hip wallpaper of
 hardy, to get away from those default lines in the background :)

   


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Re: [ubuntu-art] Wallpaper: Brown and exciting

2008-02-02 Thread Webmaster, Jhnet.co.uk
WhoExplosionAltered is simply stunning! Brilliant work. How was it made?

On 02/02/2008, Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Kinda off-topic but I'm using the wallpaper for the shot. :P

 http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/6892/screenshotig3.png

 -Cory \m/

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Re: [ubuntu-art] hardy artwork

2008-02-02 Thread Dylan McCall
Going by the page's revision history, we can see that the Wiki page's author
(and I would bet the talented artist here) is nothlit.

https://launchpad.net/~nothlit

Bye,
-Dylan McCall

On Sat, Feb 2, 2008 at 9:42 AM, Sumit Chandra Agarwal 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I really love everything about it. No other wallpaper quite says Ubuntu
 is different from Mac and Vista like this image does. Its
 gender-neutral, hip, and there's a certain wonderful whimsical
 forward-looking emotion captured in that upturned face.
 If Hardy does adopt this, and it is successful, it could also set a
 blueprint for future wallpapers as stylized paintings (with the
 stylization gradually changing to match current cultural styles) of the
 release-name-animal.

 I hope I'm not getting too excited here,
 -Sumit
 P.S. I wish we knew who the artist was so we could get them on the list!

 Sav vas wrote:
  I love it (Fela Kuti). This could very much be the hip wallpaper of
  hardy, to get away from those default lines in the background :)
 
 


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Re: [ubuntu-art] Wallpaper: Brown and exciting

2008-02-02 Thread Who
On Feb 2, 2008 5:48 PM, Webmaster, Jhnet.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 WhoExplosionAltered is simply stunning! Brilliant work. How was it made?


I wan't _exactly_ remember :P

Something like:

I took two nice realaxing images, (grayscale), blurred them to
oblivion, they made the base two layers. Change colour balance,
curves, output levels to get a nice brown from the grey.

Then I drew some random squiggles with the mouse.

A long comnination of pinching, expandin, polar coordinates and some
other distortion effects JUST on the lines

Duplicate the layers for the lines, make them glow with blur

Set the lend mode to burn in for the lines layer

A lot of tweaking and playing around!

That was about it :)

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[ubuntu-art] Quick user switching panel applet. OT?

2008-02-02 Thread Sumit Chandra Agarwal
I'm not sure if this is quite on-topic for the art list, but it has to 
do with visual presentation so I thought I'd try here first:

As it is the top panel in Ubuntu is as cluttered or more cluttered than 
Windows or Mac desktops, with the addition of another panel at the 
bottom. One item that is significant taking up a lot of space on the 
upper panel is the fast user switching applet, which manifests itself as 
text showing the current user name.

This is a great feature. However, I would *guess* that for greater than 
50% of Ubuntu users this is unnecessary as they are using the machine as 
a *personal* computer and as such they are the only user registered on 
the system. This makes the applet pointless and it only adds to clutter 
and eating away at space.

Could Ubuntu be configured to intelligently only add the applet if there 
is more than one user registered to the system?

Sorry if this is off-topic,
-Sumit

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