Re: [ubuntu-art] New Wave
2008/5/10 Kenneth Wimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Saturday 10 May 2008 23:37:45 Anton Kerezov wrote:
> > В 22:40 +0200 на 10.05.2008 (сб), Giuseppe Pennisi написа:
> > > tomorrow or monday. I go out to drink a pair of beer. ;-)
> > > You're not here otherwise I would have invited to you. :-D
> > >
> > > ;-)
> > >
> > > Giuseppe P.
> > >
> > :) Wow thanks for the invitation.
> >
> > Ken wrote
> >
> > > I can help with everything up to the actual setting up of a PPA
> > > (although I
> > > can probably point you in the right direction and get some outside
> > > help).
> > >
> > > Let me know if you are interested.
> >
> > Yes I am. How are this things set up (PPA)? Do you know how to solve the
> > mozilla issue?
>
> The quick start guide for PPA's can be found here:
>
> http://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart
>
> although quick might be a bit too optimistic it does seem straightforward.
>
> As far as firefox is concerned I am still pretty much in the dark as to how
> it
> exactly uses a gtk theme. I guess this will be one of the things we need to
> work on before intrepid.
>
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> Ken
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Hello, everybody I'm testing the New Wave theme and I really like it.
I'd fix the Firefox issue creating a file name userChrome.css on my firefox
profile folder (usually "~/.mozilla/firefox/ramdom.default/chrome/") with
the following lines:
menu {
color: white ! important;
}
menubar, menulist, menubutton, menuitem {
color: black ! important;
}
The only thing different compared with other GTK programs it's when you
press the menu the color remains white.
Hope that this helps.
Regards.
PS: You can see how New Wave looks on my system in
http://img145.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pantallazo1kx8.png
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Kith Intrepid
Kith Intrepid will use pretty much every button/widget from Unions frame design, the main difference will be in the actual gnome widgets, which I've sketched out a cleaner more coherent look for. If anyone wants to create demo images for the concept, it would really help out (I don't have regular access to computers because I'm undergoing military training; nonetheless the software) On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Damian Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ken Vermette escribió: > > Hello again everyone; > > > > Despite limited time, I've managed to throw together a simple theme > > idea for Intrepid. There's a link below, it's pretty much the same as > > Kith (in an old hardy wiki, referenced) but with a few tweaks for a > > more stylized look. Very little time can be put into this, so it's > > missing icons, text, notifications and so on - so I'll for now most of > > this idea is up to your imaginations. I like several concepts in the > > NewWave theme, so try to use that to fill in the blanks. > > > > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/Kith_Intrepid#head-69dfc4b003dd74ae955d65de60288c9cce9a6368 > > > > I won't be able to reply for at least a week, so sorry in advance for > > sluggish communique; Thank you. > > -Ken Vermette > This looks great Ken. I'd love to see how this evolves. > Are you going to reuse some of Union's pieces? > Regards, > > D. > > -- > ubuntu-art mailing list > ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art > -- -Ken Vermette -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] New Wave
On Saturday 10 May 2008 23:37:45 Anton Kerezov wrote: > В 22:40 +0200 на 10.05.2008 (сб), Giuseppe Pennisi написа: > > tomorrow or monday. I go out to drink a pair of beer. ;-) > > You're not here otherwise I would have invited to you. :-D > > > > ;-) > > > > Giuseppe P. > > > :) Wow thanks for the invitation. > > Ken wrote > > > I can help with everything up to the actual setting up of a PPA > > (although I > > can probably point you in the right direction and get some outside > > help). > > > > Let me know if you are interested. > > Yes I am. How are this things set up (PPA)? Do you know how to solve the > mozilla issue? The quick start guide for PPA's can be found here: http://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart although quick might be a bit too optimistic it does seem straightforward. As far as firefox is concerned I am still pretty much in the dark as to how it exactly uses a gtk theme. I guess this will be one of the things we need to work on before intrepid. -- Ken -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] New Wave
Anton Kerezov wrote: > Probably it is a good idea but I'm not familiar with branches and > version control systems :( http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bzr It is quite easy. Sincerely, TJS signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] New Wave
В 22:40 +0200 на 10.05.2008 (сб), Giuseppe Pennisi написа: > tomorrow or monday. I go out to drink a pair of beer. ;-) > You're not here otherwise I would have invited to you. :-D > > ;-) > > Giuseppe P. :) Wow thanks for the invitation. Ken wrote > I can help with everything up to the actual setting up of a PPA > (although I > can probably point you in the right direction and get some outside > help). > > Let me know if you are interested. > Yes I am. How are this things set up (PPA)? Do you know how to solve the mozilla issue? Anton -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] New Wave
В 22:40 +0200 на 10.05.2008 (сб), Giuseppe Pennisi написа: > Il giorno sab, 10/05/2008 alle 22.29 +0300, Anton Kerezov ha scritto: > > I've updated the wiki page: > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/NewWave > > > > Now the theme includes the metacity borders by default and have updated > > compiz and emerald profiles. I've also managed to fix the cpu-freq > > applet showing unreadable text. > Wow, great work!!! > > I don't know, but I think that insert in wiki the new screenshoot with > metacity opacity fixed (for example, I have posted it before) it will > can be a good idea. Or not? Yes, good one! > > > Still need to figure out how > > Firefox/Thunderbird uses menus. Does anybody knows how to fix this? > > > I'm trying to understand and find this. But I will put back to work > tomorrow or monday. I go out to drink a pair of beer. ;-) > You're not here otherwise I would have invited to you. :-D > > ;-) > > Giuseppe P. > > I've searched the web and found that the colors in firefox are handled by userChrome.css file. I've made one and now the menus are gray but when active the gray does not changes to black. If there is css expert please help. Who said: > Perhaps this is a good point to start thinking about having a package > in Launchpad and a BZR branch for the theme, and then you can have a > Launchpad PPA repository for people to be testing the theme from. > Probably it is a good idea but I'm not familiar with branches and version control systems :( Anton -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] New Wave
On Saturday 10 May 2008 23:16:55 Who wrote: > On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 7:56 PM, Anton Kerezov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > В 19:41 +0200 на 10.05.2008 (сб), Giuseppe Pennisi написа: > >> Il giorno ven, 09/05/2008 alle 23.01 +, fruchtschwert ha scritto: > >> > I tried the NewWave_AlphaPack.0.4 with emerald and metacity with and > >> > without compiz. > >> > The metacity 0.2 has a small bug, when having a maximized inactive > >> > window behind an unmaximized active one: > >> > >> I fixed it. > >> > >> @Anton: I attached the metacity and the gconf files (for fix the > >> inactive windows opacity), if you want insert in archive for the wiki > >> > >> Giuseppe P. > > > > Thank you. Soon I will update 0.4.1 that includes the metacity-1 in it > > so only one package will be used. :) > > Perhaps this is a good point to start thinking about having a package > in Launchpad and a BZR branch for the theme, and then you can have a > Launchpad PPA repository for people to be testing the theme from. > > Cory, anyone else with Launchpad-foo - is all this possible? I can help with everything up to the actual setting up of a PPA (although I can probably point you in the right direction and get some outside help). Let me know if you are interested. -- Ken -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] New Wave
On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 7:56 PM, Anton Kerezov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > В 19:41 +0200 на 10.05.2008 (сб), Giuseppe Pennisi написа: >> Il giorno ven, 09/05/2008 alle 23.01 +, fruchtschwert ha scritto: >> > I tried the NewWave_AlphaPack.0.4 with emerald and metacity with and >> > without compiz. >> > The metacity 0.2 has a small bug, when having a maximized inactive >> > window behind an unmaximized active one: >> > >> >> I fixed it. >> >> @Anton: I attached the metacity and the gconf files (for fix the >> inactive windows opacity), if you want insert in archive for the wiki >> >> Giuseppe P. >> > > Thank you. Soon I will update 0.4.1 that includes the metacity-1 in it > so only one package will be used. :) Perhaps this is a good point to start thinking about having a package in Launchpad and a BZR branch for the theme, and then you can have a Launchpad PPA repository for people to be testing the theme from. Cory, anyone else with Launchpad-foo - is all this possible? Who -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] New Wave
Il giorno sab, 10/05/2008 alle 22.29 +0300, Anton Kerezov ha scritto: > I've updated the wiki page: > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/NewWave > > Now the theme includes the metacity borders by default and have updated > compiz and emerald profiles. I've also managed to fix the cpu-freq > applet showing unreadable text. Wow, great work!!! I don't know, but I think that insert in wiki the new screenshoot with metacity opacity fixed (for example, I have posted it before) it will can be a good idea. Or not? > Still need to figure out how > Firefox/Thunderbird uses menus. Does anybody knows how to fix this? > I'm trying to understand and find this. But I will put back to work tomorrow or monday. I go out to drink a pair of beer. ;-) You're not here otherwise I would have invited to you. :-D ;-) Giuseppe P. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] New Wave
I've updated the wiki page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/NewWave Now the theme includes the metacity borders by default and have updated compiz and emerald profiles. I've also managed to fix the cpu-freq applet showing unreadable text. Still need to figure out how Firefox/Thunderbird uses menus. Does anybody knows how to fix this? Anton -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] New Wave
В 19:41 +0200 на 10.05.2008 (сб), Giuseppe Pennisi написа: > Il giorno ven, 09/05/2008 alle 23.01 +, fruchtschwert ha scritto: > > I tried the NewWave_AlphaPack.0.4 with emerald and metacity with and > > without compiz. > > The metacity 0.2 has a small bug, when having a maximized inactive > > window behind an unmaximized active one: > > > > I fixed it. > > @Anton: I attached the metacity and the gconf files (for fix the > inactive windows opacity), if you want insert in archive for the wiki > > Giuseppe P. > Thank you. Soon I will update 0.4.1 that includes the metacity-1 in it so only one package will be used. :) -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] New Wave
Il giorno ven, 09/05/2008 alle 23.01 +, fruchtschwert ha scritto: > I tried the NewWave_AlphaPack.0.4 with emerald and metacity with and > without compiz. > The metacity 0.2 has a small bug, when having a maximized inactive > window behind an unmaximized active one: > I fixed it. @Anton: I attached the metacity and the gconf files (for fix the inactive windows opacity), if you want insert in archive for the wiki Giuseppe P. NewWave.tar.gz Description: application/compressed-tar -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] New Wave
В 11:24 +0200 на 10.05.2008 (сб), François Degrave написа: > Hi! > > Here are the first taskbar icons (added on the wiki): > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/NewWave?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=taskbar_icons.zip > > If you have any remark/question/request about color/size/shape please > don't hesitate. Also, I don't really know what others are missing (a > bluetooth one? Network warning?...) so please tell me which ones I > should make. > > Cheers, > > François Excellent work François! I've replaced all nm-xxx icons but it still shows me the old one. What icons should I replace? There are many sizes 16x16 to 48x48. It will be better if you create a network icon for no connection. Did you thought of the shape of buttons and so on? Anton -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Windows? Mac? Gnome? KDE?
..on or around Fri, May 09, 2008 at 10:04:15AM -0500, Seth Rattan said: > I completely agree. We should pick an idea/concept and use that for the > basis of all specific design decisions. Whether that idea is to work with > specific visual elements (glass effects, gradients, window borders) or to > pursue an overall visual idea, we need something to guide our work besides > "this needs to be more macish" or "this looks like windows vista." We need > to build our own ideas, from the ground up, instead of defining ourselves by > the arbitrary and often unimaginative interfaces present on closed operating > systems. sure, but as a group we could take years deciding such things, if at all. IMO it's best to simply start making themes in small groups based on your own ideas with the intent of them being tested in the wild and (ideally) improved as a result. perhaps then - after all this process - Mark will become aware of the theme, decide he likes it and make it the default. if not, perhaps it'll be shipped anyway as part of a theme pack. strong and unique ideas are often (not always) one of the first casualties of a collaborative design process; the process of seeking agreement in groups often results in the generalisation of design proposals in order to fit the many varying interests of all group members. what otherwise gave those original ideas a strong identity is, by this process, averaged into mediocrity and those that contributed the strong ideas lose motivation having seen this identity dissolved. for this reason i think it's best to create prototype implementations (even mockups) of good designs alone with the ends of inspiring collaborators to improve that implementation. the New Wave theme group are a good example of this process in action, so far. IMO this approach has the best chance of success, most things considered. cheers, -- julian oliver http://julianoliver.com http://selectparks.net messages containing HTML will not be read. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] New Wave
Anton Kerezov ha scritto: > В 01:31 +0200 на 10.05.2008 (сб), Giuseppe Pennisi написа: > > fruchtschwert ha scritto: > > > Hey, > > > > > > first of all I think you're doing a great job with the NewWave theme .. > > > It's very good, that you don't consider all people being able to run > > > emerald and there are window decorations for metacity available too. > > > > > > To help a bit, I wanted to report the bugs I noticed. > > > > > > I tried the NewWave_AlphaPack.0.4 with emerald and metacity with and > > > without compiz. > > > The metacity 0.2 has a small bug, when having a maximized inactive window > > > behind an unmaximized active one: > > > Then, on the left and right side of the inactive window bar, 1px wide > > > grey strips appear, which shouldn't be there. > > > > > Thank you for your report. I will fix the bug. > > > > > Except of that the theme seems to have incompatibilities with firefox / > > > thunderbird (menubar corrupted) and the processor-speed > > > gnome-panel-applet (black font). > > > Certainly these are things you'll want to fix at a later point of time, I > > > just wanted to point them out. > > > > > Sure, thanks. The theme is work in progress. We will try to fix all > > bugs. > > > > > I don't like the dark version (alpha6), it's too heavy / depressing. Hope > > > it won't be considered.. > > > Another question: are you planning to change the buttons in the metacity > > > theme to look like the ones of the emerald one, or is the space on the > > > window bar unsufficient ? > > > It's also very beautiful like it is, but it would be more consistent .. > > > > > Various options are under consideration for to be choose in a second > > time. But for this anton or francois may respond better. > > I too agree that it should be consistent. Giuseppe can you use the > buttons from the emerald theme? > I can try. > One more tip Giuseppe: The next time you increment a version please > tell us so that we can update our stuff too in it. And if you let me > manage all the stuff it would be even better cos now the package > contents became bloated with alphas ;) > Ok, sorry!!! Giuseppe P. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] New Wave
Kido Mariano ha scritto: > > > The transparency of the titlebar for metacity is due because of the > > > compiz setup. > > > IMHO it's not bad. However, fundamentally, if compiz is enabled the > > > people can to use Emarald, right? > > > Fundamentally Metacity is for those who can not use Emerald. > > > (Otherwise we can change the compiz setup) > > That's nice, but I just find it quite disappointing that we lose this > > "all-in-one" effect for the menu bar and task bar on inactive windows. > > We really should ask -- or write -- a patch for Metacity to have > > different menu bars on inactive and active windows, to keep this "solid" > > feeling. > > > > But except that, I'm everyday a little more confident in this theme, it > > looks really nice and clean. > > > > François > > > > PS: I'll finish the monochromic icons for the taskbar tomorrow (no time > > for yesterday neither today). > > > > Hey, just chiming in to tell y'all that it is possible to have the > transparency fade to opaque. > Run gconf-editor, then edit the gconf > entry /apps/gwd/metacity_theme_shade_opacity: check the checkbox, or set > it to true with the command line tool (not sure how to do this). > Yes, it was like I thought. You've early me. Infact I changed the value of metacity_theme_opacity from 0.75 to 1.0 and I solved the problem. http://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=newwavemetacitycompiznofe6.png Another solution is to flag metacity_theme_shade_opacity and set metacity_theme_opacity to 58 (or other). http://img366.imageshack.us/my.php?image=newwavemetacitycompizwias1.png I think that it's the most logical solution because it's not a metacity problem (or gtkrc engine), but a specific configuration of compiz. For me the problem of active\inactive window can be fixed with compiz setup. Giuseppe P. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] New Wave
В 01:31 +0200 на 10.05.2008 (сб), Giuseppe Pennisi написа: > fruchtschwert ha scritto: > > Hey, > > > > first of all I think you're doing a great job with the NewWave theme .. > > It's very good, that you don't consider all people being able to run > > emerald and there are window decorations for metacity available too. > > > > To help a bit, I wanted to report the bugs I noticed. > > > > I tried the NewWave_AlphaPack.0.4 with emerald and metacity with and > > without compiz. > > The metacity 0.2 has a small bug, when having a maximized inactive window > > behind an unmaximized active one: > > Then, on the left and right side of the inactive window bar, 1px wide grey > > strips appear, which shouldn't be there. > > > Thank you for your report. I will fix the bug. > > > Except of that the theme seems to have incompatibilities with firefox / > > thunderbird (menubar corrupted) and the processor-speed gnome-panel-applet > > (black font). > > Certainly these are things you'll want to fix at a later point of time, I > > just wanted to point them out. > > > Sure, thanks. The theme is work in progress. We will try to fix all > bugs. > > > I don't like the dark version (alpha6), it's too heavy / depressing. Hope > > it won't be considered.. > > Another question: are you planning to change the buttons in the metacity > > theme to look like the ones of the emerald one, or is the space on the > > window bar unsufficient ? > > It's also very beautiful like it is, but it would be more consistent .. > > > Various options are under consideration for to be choose in a second > time. But for this anton or francois may respond better. I too agree that it should be consistent. Giuseppe can you use the buttons from the emerald theme? One more tip Giuseppe: The next time you increment a version please tell us so that we can update our stuff too in it. And if you let me manage all the stuff it would be even better cos now the package contents became bloated with alphas ;) Anton -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] New Wave
Hi! Here are the first taskbar icons (added on the wiki): https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/NewWave?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=taskbar_icons.zip If you have any remark/question/request about color/size/shape please don't hesitate. Also, I don't really know what others are missing (a bluetooth one? Network warning?...) so please tell me which ones I should make. Cheers, François -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
