Re: [ubuntu-art] Long Term Vision Theme

2008-06-21 Thread Michael McKinley
Two thoughts on the theme:
1) I think that the bar at the bottom takes up too much space.  The
area below it isn't very usable so will end up being wasted space
for most people.
2) I don't like how the notification area's background is
significantly different than the recent of the panel's.  Having it
look indented might work very well, but it has to fit smoothly in
with the panel.

On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 10:55 PM, shadowh511 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In answer to your question on placing, I think that you should
 a. put an email on the list
 b. make a page on the wiki
 c. email mark shuttleworth (sp?) about the theme

 if you ask my opinion, i would pay $400 for the ubuntu theme you have
 pictured.  It looks like is can actually make my computer usage enjoyable :)

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Concept for Intrepid

2008-06-21 Thread Michael McKinley
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 9:21 PM, Michael Stephenson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
 I have been working on a theme for the next release, and I would appreciate
 feedback.
 It is a minimalistic theme, with a blended metacity theme based on Gilouche.
 The gtk theme requires the murrine engine. I personally use it with the
 GNOME-Human from the GNOME-Colors icon theme.
 I would really appreciate feedback on whether you consider this concept
 worthy of consideration for the next release.
 Michael

If you haven't already, be sure to create a page on the Ubuntu wiki,
along with screenshots.  I'll check it out/comment on it later when I
have some more time.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Long Term Vision Theme

2008-06-21 Thread Brian Fleeger
Dear Michael,

Thank you for your feedback.  I will post my work with larger images into the 
Intrepid wiki once I finish the text explaination.  

In answer to your points:
1) the precise placement on the bottom bar is totally fluid, and up to debate.  
I personally had considered placing it higher, up to about 1/3 up from the 
bottom, just to make it more aesthetically pleasing -- though your point about 
leaving more space for other functions is well taken!  I am totally upen to 
suggestions about what to put down there.  However, my gut reaction and part of 
the reason I removed the lower tool bar to begin with was to take up less panel 
space on smaller screens, and try to make the user interface more friendly, say 
like consumer electronics.  Too many panels confuses people and are just not 
easy on the eyes.  Of course placing other functions in the 4 corner areas 
(Fitt's Law) is always good in theory -- however I think it should not done in 
a way that sacrifices the look and feel of the interface.
2) Please specify what you mean by notification area.  If you are refering to 
the main panel activated clicking the Ubuntu symbol, the version I present is 
the pretty face that includes clutter animations and allows for 
growing/shrinking tabbed icons.  A static version with icons of uniform size 
could be used on lower power systems without Compiz or Clutter enabled.  When 
using icons of static size, the active icon could be represented by a 
difference in brightness and contrast levels, and/or an icon outline.

Thank you for your input.  I will post my full work as soon as I am able!

Regards,
Brian Fleeger




- Original Message 
From: Michael McKinley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Discussion on Ubuntu artwork ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 11:07:18 AM
Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] Long Term Vision Theme

Two thoughts on the theme:
1) I think that the bar at the bottom takes up too much space.  The
area below it isn't very usable so will end up being wasted space
for most people.
2) I don't like how the notification area's background is
significantly different than the recent of the panel's.  Having it
look indented might work very well, but it has to fit smoothly in
with the panel.

On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 10:55 PM, shadowh511 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In answer to your question on placing, I think that you should
 a. put an email on the list
 b. make a page on the wiki
 c. email mark shuttleworth (sp?) about the theme

 if you ask my opinion, i would pay $400 for the ubuntu theme you have
 pictured.  It looks like is can actually make my computer usage enjoyable :)

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Long Term Vision Theme

2008-06-21 Thread shadowh511
how about you can move the bar around?


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Re: [ubuntu-art] Long Term Vision Theme

2008-06-21 Thread Brian Fleeger
Shadowh511,

Most launcher type applications are totally flexible in terms of how you place 
them.  I beleive Michael was pointing out a perceived bad use of space in the 
default layout.  I was planning a section just on the topic of how to use the 
tabbed launcher bar, its interface, and screen location.  One cool thing is, I 
had previously gotten feedback from a couple of the guys on the Mayanna team 
that the launcher was completely feasible using their code.  I will contact 
them again after I post this iteration.  I beleive the man-machine interface I 
outline will be highly efficient and unlike any other OSs user experience.

-Brian


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how about you can move the bar around?


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[ubuntu-art] gwd opacity set to true

2008-06-21 Thread Cory K.
Michael Stephenson wrote:
 Thanks Michael,
 When you are checking out the theme please will you enable in
 gconf-editor: /apps/gwd/metacity_theme_shade_opacity true. With this
 enabled the transparency will be graded in compiz, and in metacity
 unfocused window border will just appear opaque.

Wow. Thanx for the heads-up on this one. I've set it as default in
Ubuntu Studio.

Ken, think we can get this switched on in Ubuntu?

-Cory \m/

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Re: [ubuntu-art] gwd opacity set to true

2008-06-21 Thread Michael Stephenson
Thank Cimi the Murrine dev, he clued me in when I asked about it in IRC :)

2008/6/21 Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Michael Stephenson wrote:
  Thanks Michael,
  When you are checking out the theme please will you enable in
  gconf-editor: /apps/gwd/metacity_theme_shade_opacity true. With this
  enabled the transparency will be graded in compiz, and in metacity
  unfocused window border will just appear opaque.

 Wow. Thanx for the heads-up on this one. I've set it as default in
 Ubuntu Studio.

 Ken, think we can get this switched on in Ubuntu?

 -Cory \m/

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Long Term Vision Theme

2008-06-21 Thread Michael McKinley
 2) Please specify what you mean by notification area.

Notification area == system tray

-Michael

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Long Term Vision Theme

2008-06-21 Thread Brian Fleeger
Hi Michael,

Oh, I see!  I think the indented look you mention may be an artifact of the low 
resolution I used to get the pictures to attach to my email.  Take a look at my 
pictures once I finish posting and then see what you think.  I use a brown 
rounded rectangle as a background for the notification area, with a 
non-gradated gray color, but no indentation.  

Thanks for getting back to me!

Regards,
Brian


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From: Michael McKinley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 3:23:27 PM
Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] Long Term Vision Theme

 2) Please specify what you mean by notification area.

Notification area == system tray

-Michael

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[ubuntu-art] Question about Brainstorm Idea

2008-06-21 Thread Salane Ashcraft
Whats up with this?
http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/384/

Salane
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Question about Brainstorm Idea

2008-06-21 Thread Cory K.
Salane Ashcraft wrote:
 Whats up with this?

 http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/384/

 Salane

Nothing.

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