Re: [ubuntu-art] Dust menubar evolution

2008-09-29 Thread Jesper Lundgren
On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 4:43 AM, Rico Sta. Cruz [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:


 Hi everyone.

 Just wanted to show you guys the recent unreleased developments on this
 theme.

 1) Light toolbars
 The toolbars are going to be light by default. The dark, menu-integrated
 toolbars will still be used by browser- and viewer-type applications where
 the entire area below the toolbars is dedicated to content (i.e.: Firefox,
 Nautilus, Eye of Gnome, Evince...)

http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/9896/dusttoolbarko0.png

 Rationale: Aside from the fact that the dark toolbars cause problems on
 certain apps, I wanted to create a distinction between types of
 applications, while still staying visually coherent. If you look at OSX,
 there are certain apps that use a different look (brushed metal) from the
 rest, but the interface still manages to be solid.

 2) Light version.
 Just tryin' it out. Here's Sand:

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/4532/dustsand2ks2.png

 3) New scrollbars!
 Okay, I'm sure there will be vehement reactions to this. Bear with me as
 scrollbars are *hard* to design: you can never be sure they will look good
 everywhere! With that out of the way, here they are:
 there are certain apps that use a different look (brushed metal) from the

   http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/6352/dustnewscrollbarsfj4.png


 Comments welcome.


 This looks great!, The option of having lighter theme but still being
 coherent is great for people that uses laptops and have to turn down the
 brithness. Dark themes can be a bit dificult to have then. I do think though
 that the last scrollbars were great, they have a deeper look then the ones
 on your new screenshots.


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Re: [ubuntu-art] Dust menubar evolution

2008-09-29 Thread Giuseppe Pennisi
Il giorno lun, 29/09/2008 alle 09.09 +0200, Jesper Lundgren ha scritto:
 
 
 On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 4:43 AM, Rico Sta. Cruz
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hi everyone.
 
 Just wanted to show you guys the recent unreleased
 developments on this
 theme.
 
 1) Light toolbars
 The toolbars are going to be light by default. The dark,
 menu-integrated
 toolbars will still be used by browser- and viewer-type
 applications where
 the entire area below the toolbars is dedicated to content
 (i.e.: Firefox,
 Nautilus, Eye of Gnome, Evince...)
 
http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/9896/dusttoolbarko0.png
 
 Rationale: Aside from the fact that the dark toolbars cause
 problems on
 certain apps, I wanted to create a distinction between types
 of
 applications, while still staying visually coherent. If you
 look at OSX,
 there are certain apps that use a different look (brushed
 metal) from the
 rest, but the interface still manages to be solid.
 
 2) Light version.
 Just tryin' it out. Here's Sand:
 
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/4532/dustsand2ks2.png
 
 3) New scrollbars!
 Okay, I'm sure there will be vehement reactions to this. Bear
 with me as
 scrollbars are *hard* to design: you can never be sure they
 will look good
 everywhere! With that out of the way, here they are:
 there are certain apps that use a different look (brushed
 metal) from the
 
 
 http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/6352/dustnewscrollbarsfj4.png
 
 
 Comments welcome.
 
 
 This looks great!, The option of having lighter theme but
 still being coherent is great for people that uses laptops and
 have to turn down the brithness. Dark themes can be a bit
 dificult to have then. I do think though that the last
 scrollbars were great, they have a deeper look then the ones
 on your new screenshots.
 
 //Jesper 
 
 
I agree, expecially for light theme...I have already tell about it in
Naxos thread. Only a consideration about light theme, why not use the
same metacity buttons of dark theme?

gp


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[ubuntu-art] Early Breathe Submissions

2008-09-29 Thread Thorsten Wilms
Hi!

We now have 3 items on the submissions page, all thanks to Sebastian
Porta.

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions

After talking with Cory, we decided that it's best if all submissions
there are also announced to the list, so they can be discussed in the
open. It's also a good idea to join us on IRC, #ubuntu-artwork.


I already provided feedback to the artist on the first user-trash and
the dictionary and don't want to repeat it here now.


Cory and I are quite happy about the user-trash2. It provides a good
impression of depth in the large size. This could perhaps be improved
for smaller size by making the inner wall darker.

The recycling logo is very nice on the large size, but perhaps the arrow
heads need to stand out a bit more for smaller sizes.

The shading on the main body gives a good impression of half-matt
plastic. The border on the top is less convincing. Maybe it's just the
lack of a shadow beneath it.

The base of the bin needs to be darker. The rounded edge above the base
would benefit from a smooth darker gradient.

I'm not sure about the color, as I think we should avoid making
everything orange, but we could get back it after other icons are in.
We will likely need a few iterations, anyway.

Cory was already willing to place it on the accepted icon page. With a
few tweaks as mentioned above, I will agree :)


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Re: [ubuntu-art] Early Breathe Submissions

2008-09-29 Thread spg76
2008/9/29 Thorsten Wilms [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Hi!

 We now have 3 items on the submissions page, all thanks to Sebastian
 Porta.

 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions

 After talking with Cory, we decided that it's best if all submissions
 there are also announced to the list, so they can be discussed in the
 open. It's also a good idea to join us on IRC, #ubuntu-artwork.



 I already provided feedback to the artist on the first user-trash and
 the dictionary and don't want to repeat it here now.


 Cory and I are quite happy about the user-trash2. It provides a good
 impression of depth in the large size. This could perhaps be improved
 for smaller size by making the inner wall darker.

 The recycling logo is very nice on the large size, but perhaps the arrow
 heads need to stand out a bit more for smaller sizes.

 The shading on the main body gives a good impression of half-matt
 plastic. The border on the top is less convincing. Maybe it's just the
 lack of a shadow beneath it.

 The base of the bin needs to be darker. The rounded edge above the base
 would benefit from a smooth darker gradient.

 I'm not sure about the color, as I think we should avoid making
 everything orange, but we could get back it after other icons are in.
 We will likely need a few iterations, anyway.

 Cory was already willing to place it on the accepted icon page. With a
 few tweaks as mentioned above, I will agree :)


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I'm glad you and Cory like the new user-trash. I'll take notice of your
suggestions and update the wiki with a new version and announce it here for
discussion.
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[ubuntu-art] Early Breathe Submissions

2008-09-29 Thread José Luis

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[ubuntu-art] Early Breathe Submissions

2008-09-29 Thread José Luis
I think a good place to look for icons is  Anton's icon bzr:
bzr branch lp:~ubuntu-new-wave/anton/devel.icons

This is a working theme, altought its not 100% finished.

 


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Re: [ubuntu-art] Early Breathe Submissions

2008-09-29 Thread Cory K.
spg76 wrote:
 2008/9/29 Thorsten Wilms [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Hi!

 We now have 3 items on the submissions page, all thanks to Sebastian
 Porta.

 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions

 After talking with Cory, we decided that it's best if all submissions
 there are also announced to the list, so they can be discussed in the
 open. It's also a good idea to join us on IRC, #ubuntu-artwork.



 I already provided feedback to the artist on the first user-trash and
 the dictionary and don't want to repeat it here now.


 Cory and I are quite happy about the user-trash2. It provides a good
 impression of depth in the large size. This could perhaps be improved
 for smaller size by making the inner wall darker.

 The recycling logo is very nice on the large size, but perhaps the
 arrow
 heads need to stand out a bit more for smaller sizes.

 The shading on the main body gives a good impression of half-matt
 plastic. The border on the top is less convincing. Maybe it's just the
 lack of a shadow beneath it.

 The base of the bin needs to be darker. The rounded edge above the
 base
 would benefit from a smooth darker gradient.

 I'm not sure about the color, as I think we should avoid making
 everything orange, but we could get back it after other icons are in.
 We will likely need a few iterations, anyway.

 Cory was already willing to place it on the accepted icon page. With a
 few tweaks as mentioned above, I will agree :)


 I'm glad you and Cory like the new user-trash. I'll take notice of
 your suggestions and update the wiki with a new version and announce
 it here for discussion.

Yes. I think the 2nd one is the direction we want to go. I guess various
color options should be explored.

-Cory K.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Early Breathe Submissions

2008-09-29 Thread Danny King
 Yes. I think the 2nd one is the direction we want to go. I guess various
 color options should be explored.

Actually I think more /material/ options should be explored. If this
is a realistic theme we should be thinking about what type of plastic,
wood, metal or whatever it is, rather than what colour it is - right?


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Re: [ubuntu-art] Kyūdō: Audience and Message

2008-09-29 Thread Joshua Booth
I know it's only for KDE - I said so...

Thanks, I'll try pitivi.

2008/9/27 Michael Stephenson [EMAIL PROTECTED]



 2008/9/27 Joshua Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  There are only seven movie editors I can find. Cinelerra may be
 professional, but it has nowhere near the potential that the easy interface
 of Windows Movie Maker had. The only thing that is Gnome-based and that
 seems to have a nice interface is Kino, and it *doesn't even have a
 timeline. *How are you supposed to make a movie without a timeline?

 The only other program that does have a timeline is Kdenlive, but it's for
 KDE and for some reason crashes whenever I use it. Plus there hasn't been an
 update since 2007, and the latest news is from June 26, 2008.

 The new version was scheduled for release in March. And the year is almost
 through. It's definitely time for a new movie editor, one that has all the
 functionality of Kdenlive and the usability of Kino.


 FYI Kino is KDE based, not Gnome based. Have you tried Pitivi? It has a
 good time line, a very intuitive interface.
 It is lacking in features, but what it does do it does right. There is no
 need for a *new* movie editor, because
 when Pitivi gets there it will what most people want from a video editor.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Kyu-do-: Audience and Message (stay on-topic)

2008-09-29 Thread Joshua Booth
How is a movie application off-topic from application support? It it's part
of Kyodo, then shouldn't we discuss it?

On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 8:53 AM, Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I will moderate anyone that replies off-topic to this thread again.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Kyu-do-: Audience and Message (st ay on-topic)

2008-09-29 Thread Cory K.
Joshua Booth wrote:
 How is a movie application off-topic from application support? It it's
 part of Kyodo, then shouldn't we discuss it?

Please do not top-post. Search the archive and web if you don't know
what I'm talking about.

It's outside the scope of Kyu-do-. I separated it off to another thread
and someone replied to the original thread again. Even my separated
thread is offtopic for this list as we're about lookfeel. Not what apps
are in Ubuntu.

This is not something I will endlessly go over. It's the way it is.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Early Breathe Submissions

2008-09-29 Thread Danny King
Here is my suggestion for the generic paper icon

Some notes first:

* I have only done the 256px size so far. Smaller sizes would have
/much/ less detail (the left side would be simplified if included at
all, the shadows would be darkened perhaps)
* I have included a textured and a non-textured version. The texture
was from Inkscape's built in patterns and is a bitmap so not
desirable. I tried to trace another texture bitmap but it got far too
complex and Inkscape crashed.
* I'm not 100% sure about my shadows.
* I won't attach the SVG yet as I've only done the 256px size and I've
messed around with the layers - I need clean it up.
* I welcome critiques and won't be offended if you don't think it fits
in with Breathe!


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3127/2900480718_9c2f07dbb8_o_d.png

I've also put it on the Discussion page of the Wiki.

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[ubuntu-art] Breathe user-trash

2008-09-29 Thread spg76
I made some changes based on Thorsten and Cory's suggestions and I updated
the wiki.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions
Also I made the icon on different colors to give an idea of a different
look.
Please take a look and tell me what you think.
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Dust menubar evolution

2008-09-29 Thread Rico Sta. Cruz

New release: Dust 0.2!
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/DustTheme

As for the round WM buttons, consider them as placeholders as I was too lazy
to port the Dust WM buttons onto the light one. :b

(kwwii: I think I'm too late here, but if this new releases could be pushed
for the community-themes that'd be awesome.)


Thorsten Wilms wrote:
 
 On Sun, 2008-09-28 at 19:43 -0700, Rico Sta. Cruz wrote:
 
 1) Light toolbars
 http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/9896/dusttoolbarko0.png
 
 That's interesting. Although, conceptually, the menu-bar is much closer
 to the tool-bar than to the title-bar.
 
 
 2) Light version.
 http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/4532/dustsand2ks2.png
 
 Promising. Round wm-buttons move it towards Apple, though, I'd say, as
 much as I dislike worrying about that :)
 
 
 3) New scrollbars!
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/6352/dustnewscrollbarsfj4.png
 
 The shading of the trough looks a bit like an overdose of ambient
 occlusion. I think you would do better with thinner shadows on the
 sides. The idea of letting the bar run out on the ends is an interesting
 touch. The slider looks like it is offset to the left from the middle.
 
 
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Breathe user-trash

2008-09-29 Thread Jake Tolbert
nice work.  I particularly like the blue one, although I'm not sure how
that'll fit w/ the Breathe pallette.

jake



On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 7:39 PM, spg76 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I made some changes based on Thorsten and Cory's suggestions and I updated
 the wiki.
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions
 Also I made the icon on different colors to give an idea of a different
 look.
 Please take a look and tell me what you think.
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Early Breathe Submissions

2008-09-29 Thread Andreas Berger
Thorsten Wilms schrieb:
 Hi!

 We now have 3 items on the submissions page, all thanks to Sebastian
 Porta.

 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions

 After talking with Cory, we decided that it's best if all submissions
 there are also announced to the list, so they can be discussed in the
 open. It's also a good idea to join us on IRC, #ubuntu-artwork.


 I already provided feedback to the artist on the first user-trash and
 the dictionary and don't want to repeat it here now.


 Cory and I are quite happy about the user-trash2. It provides a good
 impression of depth in the large size. This could perhaps be improved
 for smaller size by making the inner wall darker.

 The recycling logo is very nice on the large size, but perhaps the arrow
 heads need to stand out a bit more for smaller sizes.

 The shading on the main body gives a good impression of half-matt
 plastic. The border on the top is less convincing. Maybe it's just the
 lack of a shadow beneath it.

 The base of the bin needs to be darker. The rounded edge above the base
 would benefit from a smooth darker gradient.

 I'm not sure about the color, as I think we should avoid making
 everything orange, but we could get back it after other icons are in.
 We will likely need a few iterations, anyway.

 Cory was already willing to place it on the accepted icon page. With a
 few tweaks as mentioned above, I will agree :)


user-trash2, totally agree on that, looks awesome! no more cheap gloss. 
(the analogy between the recycling logo and ubuntu logo is striking :-)

i have a question on the dictionary icon: why is it presented from such 
a sideways angle, unlike the trash? i think you should keep consistent 
here, and the frontal view of the trash is just perfect. (i know that 
osx abandoned their pseudo-3d-angle icons because of cover-flow, and we 
never know what may be coming next in ubuntu, just think of the desktop 
cube...)

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