Re: [ubuntu-art] Wasp community theme

2010-03-04 Thread Lorem Ipsum
Wasp is extremely configurable, i'll change some defaults settings to
limit damage

I'll also rename Wasp to Wasp-Murrine as in community-themes package,
this resolve a conflict with gnome-themes-more package when people
install Wasp from gnome-look

thanks for your attention

2010/3/3 Andrew SB a.star...@gmail.com:
 On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 5:56 AM, Lorem Ipsum lrm...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Ubuntu Artwork Team,

 I'm glad that you have put my theme (Wasp) in community-themes package 
 but...

 Wasp is not a normal theme, in the way you have packaged it Firefox
 doesn't work properly and OOo doesn't work at all.
 Both apps need a script to patch them.

 I don't know how to solve this in a .deb package and this is the
 primary reason i've not yet created a PPA for Wasp

 If you have any suggestion please let me know

 Hi Lorem,

 I added Wasp to the package as we are coming up on the user interface
 deadline and wanted to make sure we included some new themes in the
 package. I assumed that by including the theme on the wiki in
 Artwork/Incoming/Lucid you were putting the theme up for inclusion.
 Unfortunately, the sort of things done in your install script aren't
 really some thing we can support in a distribution package. Though the
 problems that Wasp encounters are pretty common for darker themes. New
 Wave also has work arounds for some of these issues which we can't
 provide, but can be grabbed on GNOME-Look.

 I'm certainly willing to help you push any tweaks to the theme that
 you'd like to see into Lucid to help cope with these issues. If you
 feel that the user experience is so poor that it mis-characterizes
 your theme, I can pull it from the package if you prefer that.

 Let me know if there's any way that I can help.

 Sorry!

 - Andrew

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[ubuntu-art] New Identity

2010-03-04 Thread Thorsten Wilms
Hi!

No, I don't have to get rid of stalkers ...

I guess everyone is aware of it already, but if not:
http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/03/03/refreshing-the-ubuntu-brand/

There are mixed reactions on Slashdot, Digg, Reddit and a few blogs. Our
own forums receive the price for dumbest thing I found, someone saying
Aubergine wouldn't be a professional color :}

Recommended reading (unlike those listed before):
http://www.kilobitspersecond.com/2010/03/03/the-new-ubuntu-lucid-look-an-appraisal/
http://troy-sobotka.blogspot.com/2010/03/ubuntu-branding.html

Not much, if anything left for me to say, I pretty much agree with both
of them.


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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Identity

2010-03-04 Thread Saleel Velankar
Considering some smart people are working on this; I dont see why so many
people are getting up in a huff about this. I also heard that our dictator
is also working with the design team and the interface, and if you cant
trust him, who can you trust?

I would assume that this is start of the rebranding and what we are seeing
is going to be another steady evolution.
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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Identity

2010-03-04 Thread Chris Tooley
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 4:46 AM, Thorsten Wilms t...@freenet.de wrote:
 Hi!

 No, I don't have to get rid of stalkers ...

 I guess everyone is aware of it already, but if not:
 http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/03/03/refreshing-the-ubuntu-brand/

 There are mixed reactions on Slashdot, Digg, Reddit and a few blogs. Our
 own forums receive the price for dumbest thing I found, someone saying
 Aubergine wouldn't be a professional color :}

To be fair, I saw that comment on Slashdot as well. I don't understand
where that sentiment comes from...

 Recommended reading (unlike those listed before):
 http://www.kilobitspersecond.com/2010/03/03/the-new-ubuntu-lucid-look-an-appraisal/
 http://troy-sobotka.blogspot.com/2010/03/ubuntu-branding.html

Another good link to understand the reasoning behind the colour schema
was posted by Mr. Shuttleworth on his blag:
http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/308

-Chris

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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Identity

2010-03-04 Thread Mark Curtis

So people should agree with the designers that came up with it and not the 
designers that are specifically spelling out what's wrong with it?

Who says sabdfl knows anything about UX and/or design though?
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 17:16:21 -0500
From: svela...@gmail.com
To: ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] New Identity

Considering some smart people are working on this; I dont see why so many 
people are getting up in a huff about this. I also heard that our dictator is 
also working with the design team and the interface, and if you cant trust him, 
who can you trust?


I would assume that this is start of the rebranding and what we are seeing is 
going to be another steady evolution. 
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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Identity

2010-03-04 Thread Saleel Velankar
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 5:19 PM, Mark Curtis merkin...@hotmail.com wrote:

  So people should agree with the designers that came up with it and not the
 designers that are specifically spelling out what's wrong with it?

 Who says sabdfl knows anything about UX and/or design though?


I get the feeling that I will get planed here but the way I see it is that
the design theme hasn't asked for input as they did for 9.10 boot. This
would suggest to me that they have a plan that they are happy with,
commenting or arguing which colors work/dont work; and the rather obnoxious
gtk theme (personal opinion) is moot. I prefer to only give critique if its
asked.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Identity

2010-03-04 Thread Mark Curtis

I really hope that's not the case. If it is, it's awfully arrogant of them.

I feel the theme is like anything else in a development release. First put out 
there for people to point out what works and what doesn't work so that it can 
be tweaked before the final version.

Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 17:27:50 -0500
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Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] New Identity



On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 5:19 PM, Mark Curtis merkin...@hotmail.com wrote:






So people should agree with the designers that came up with it and not the 
designers that are specifically spelling out what's wrong with it?

Who says sabdfl knows anything about UX and/or design though?


I get the feeling that I will get planed here but the way I see it is that the 
design theme hasn't asked for input as they did for 9.10 boot. This would 
suggest to me that they have a plan that they are happy with, commenting or 
arguing which colors work/dont work; and the rather obnoxious gtk theme 
(personal opinion) is moot. I prefer to only give critique if its asked.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Identity

2010-03-04 Thread Hrafn Nordhri
I happen to like the new font and I wonder when/where I can get a copy.

As far as theme and wallpaper goes.. one of the beauties of Linux in
general is how configurable it is. I've not seen this new theme yet so I
cannot comment.

On Thu, 2010-03-04 at 17:38 -0500, Mark Curtis wrote:
 I really hope that's not the case. If it is, it's awfully arrogant of
 them.
 
 I feel the theme is like anything else in a development release. First
 put out there for people to point out what works and what doesn't work
 so that it can be tweaked before the final version.
 
 
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 Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 17:27:50 -0500
 From: svela...@gmail.com
 To: ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com
 Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] New Identity
 
 
 
 On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 5:19 PM, Mark Curtis merkin...@hotmail.com
 wrote:
 So people should agree with the designers that came up with it
 and not the designers that are specifically spelling out
 what's wrong with it?
 
 Who says sabdfl knows anything about UX and/or design though?
 
 
 I get the feeling that I will get planed here but the way I see it is
 that the design theme hasn't asked for input as they did for 9.10
 boot. This would suggest to me that they have a plan that they are
 happy with, commenting or arguing which colors work/dont work; and the
 rather obnoxious gtk theme (personal opinion) is moot. I prefer to
 only give critique if its asked.
 
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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Identity

2010-03-04 Thread Jacopo Moronato
By the way, windows buttons are on the right (tested ten minutes ago).
As Mark Curtis pointed, the new themes are not ready yet...I think there
will be lots of improvements.

Jacopo Moronato

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[ubuntu-art] Metacity Button Order Changed

2010-03-04 Thread John Baer
I noticed in today's upgrade (03/04) the order of the metacity's
minimize and maximized buttons changed.

In the old metacity the order was; minimize, maximize, close

In the new metacity the order is: maximize, minimize, close

Is this the desired effect or is this a bug?


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