Re: [ubuntu-art] Dates

2010-11-25 Thread Martin Owens
On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 12:51 +0100, Thorsten Wilms wrote:
> 
> We should standardize on one date format for the wiki. I propose ISO
> 8601, as it was created just for this reason. It's also great for
> sorting. 

It's also the international standard. I see no reason not to enforce the
convention for clarity going forward.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Proposal discussion on xubuntu wallpaper/artwork.

2010-11-25 Thread Saleel Velankar
On Wednesday, November 24, 2010 9:53:46 pm John Baer wrote:

> Saleel, I would like to make you an admin of the Xubuntu Natty Wallpaper
> flickr group. This means monitoring submissions and making sure questions
> are responded to. Will you help with this?


Certainly.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Spec Organization

2010-11-25 Thread j_baer


Thorsten Wilms wrote:
> 
> My organization compulsion trumped my dislike of the wiki for a moment,
> because I couldn't stand seeing:
> 
> 

Thank you Thorten!

I always support improvement and will review when time permits.

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[ubuntu-art] Papercuts Ninja

2010-11-25 Thread j_baer

I presumed they were coming and here they are - Papercuts Ninja.

http://design.canonical.com/2010/11/here-come-the-ninjas/

https://launchpad.net/~papercuts-ninja

Changing loose ends to achieve a professional polish look is nothing new to
this team and I applaud this moving to center stage within the community.

The question for us is "what is the best approach"? Will our current
processes satisfy this need?

AFAIK we should be in good shape but it never hurts to ask the question.

Cheers!

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Proposal discussion on xubuntu wallpaper/artwork.

2010-11-25 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Wed, 2010-11-24 at 15:02 -0700, Charlie Kravetz wrote:
 
> Since the windows and background and panels in Xfce can all be themed
> separately, this complicates it. Even when using the default Albatross
> theme in Lucid 10.04, the window borders and panels were black, but the
> window backgrounds were very light, since that is more difficult to
> change from the Xfce defaults and requires extensive gtk theme changes.

For the wallpaper specification we need to define the colors used in the
panel and windows. These should be evaluated in light of the intended
message (lightness, performance).

Icons likely to appear on the desktop need to be identified.

Note that creating/choosing the wallpaper first, to then adjust the
panel and window colors is a valid approach, too.

The question is, can you change those colors and how late in the game
can you do so, then?


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Re: [ubuntu-art] Proposal discussion on xubuntu wallpaper/artwork.

2010-11-25 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Wed, 2010-11-24 at 21:53 -0500, John Baer wrote:
> Thorsten - Saleel - Charlie?  Will you update the spec?

Done. http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/0007_Xubuntu_Natty_Wallpaper

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[ubuntu-art] Dates

2010-11-25 Thread Thorsten Wilms
Faced with dates like 12/02/2011 I always have to wonder if it's
day/month/year or month/day/year.

We should standardize on one date format for the wiki. I propose ISO
8601, as it was created just for this reason. It's also great for
sorting.

As an example, today is: 2010-11-25

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601 


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Re: [ubuntu-art] [request] packages.ubuntu.com needs rebranding

2010-11-25 Thread Сергей
>
> Sergey,
>
> This is great. There is certainly no reason why we can't do our part to
> reduce paper cuts. Ivanka blogged about it
> http://design.canonical.com/2010/11/paper-cuts-need-you/ here .
>
> Thoughts on the best approach?
>
> John
>

Rebranding will require tweaks to the engine, so I guess I will figure out
what exactly we need, then contact Frank Lichtenheld and ask him if he can
do it. I can already say that we'll need to add header and footer, remove
">>" from breadcrumbs and so on.

I guess this website falls into "Project" category in the header, but
guesses aren't reliable enough, whom can I ask about this?

The design challenges we must face are:

   1. There are no guidelines for sidebars and the package info pages use
   them (e.g. see
   http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/plymouth-theme-ubuntu-logo), we'll
   have to either make up some or get rid of the sidebar (and I prefer the
   latter).
   2. Quick search has a dropdown list in which one can choose the area to
   search (package names, descriptions, package contents etc.), and it's not
   clear how to migrate this to the new quick search box design. Same for "all
   options" link.
   3. On the main page we need to present 3 equally important alternatives
   clearly. I have failed to do that for another website in the past. Any
   ideas?
   4. Less notable things like section navigation in top right corner, which
   I can't recall now.

I'll make some mockups in code as soon as the unified Ubuntu CSS is released
(or maybe even before that if I have time).

P.S. http://fridge.ubuntu.com/ also needs rebranding and a new logo, I
suppose.

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[ubuntu-art] Spec Organization

2010-11-25 Thread Thorsten Wilms
Hi!

My organization compulsion trumped my dislike of the wiki for a moment,
because I couldn't stand seeing:

Artwork/Specs/Edubuntu-natty-wallpaper
Artwork/Specs/Request-1
Artwork/Specs/Request-2
Artwork/Specs/Request-3
Artwork/Specs/Request-4
Artwork/Specs/Request-5
Artwork/Specs/Request-6
Artwork/Specs/Request-7
Artwork/Specs/_Template

on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs

So I renamed all the spec pages to a _Name scheme and introduced a
separation between Open/Frozen/Closed on the Specs page.

John: because of this, automatic listing can't be used anymore.
Something is wrong with the markup now, thanks to your table acrobatics
and my total lack of patience in trying to understand what's going on.
It would be kind of you to see if you can fix it.

I joined the 2 Edubuntu Wallpaper pages to 
http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/0001_Edubuntu_Natty_Wallpaper
and might have overlooked some detail. Much of what I said regarding
Xubuntu applies here, too.


John: what exactly is the purpose of
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/0006_LibreOffice_Artwork
?

I maintain that a specification for LO artwork belongs to the LO
project, has to live in their wiki and be discussed on their lists.
Hence that page should at least be moved to Closed, if not deleted.

Can I hear other's opinion on this?


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