Re: [ubuntu-art] possible light-themes/murrine bug, trying to find out who to contact
Thanks for the info, I didn't know of XUL technical details. Still, if the issue is local to Thunderbird, it's still very likely a bug in whatever XUL uses to render via GTK. For example, LibreOffice tries to use GTK rendering too (GTK3 as of late) and it's not 100% compatible either. I'd try to bug Ubuntu Mozilla Team or maybe upstream developers directly. Just FYI, Murrine developer is https://launchpad.net/~cimi -- Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff 2012/9/12 John Knight > Hi Sergey, > > Thanks for the response and for taking the time to look at the problem > with me; very much appreciated. > > Respectfully, that doesn't sound correct though; XULrunner is a high level > ui toolkit that binds to gtk2 (and also bind to cocoa and win32 for other > platforms). > > Firefox and Thunderbird are still very much using gtk2 for their > applications, they just aren't using c/c++ bindings but instead using > crossplatform XULrunner (which can render using other toolkits making it > cross platform) which in turn calls gtk2 to write the widgets to screen, as > opposed to being a completely unique toolkit like motif or qt or using gtk2 > directly. > > Here's the ticket tracking work Mozilla is doing moving from gtk2 to gtk3 > for some time in the future, showing they are most definitely using gtk2 > when rendering xul configurations fed into xulrunner on *nix platforms: > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=627699 > > The only two themes that are problematic, Ambiance and Radiance, are each > using the same Murrine gtk2 engine that Ubuntu ships. I recently > discovered Clearlooks and all other gtk2 themes I load do not have the same > issue as Thunderbird renders seemingly every other gtk2 correctly for the > scrollbars. > > -John Knight > -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] possible light-themes/murrine bug, trying to find out who to contact
Hi Sergey, Thanks for the response and for taking the time to look at the problem with me; very much appreciated. Respectfully, that doesn't sound correct though; XULrunner is a high level ui toolkit that binds to gtk2 (and also bind to cocoa and win32 for other platforms). Firefox and Thunderbird are still very much using gtk2 for their applications, they just aren't using c/c++ bindings but instead using crossplatform XULrunner (which can render using other toolkits making it cross platform) which in turn calls gtk2 to write the widgets to screen, as opposed to being a completely unique toolkit like motif or qt or using gtk2 directly. Here's the ticket tracking work Mozilla is doing moving from gtk2 to gtk3 for some time in the future, showing they are most definitely using gtk2 when rendering xul configurations fed into xulrunner on *nix platforms: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=627699 The only two themes that are problematic, Ambiance and Radiance, are each using the same Murrine gtk2 engine that Ubuntu ships. I recently discovered Clearlooks and all other gtk2 themes I load do not have the same issue as Thunderbird renders seemingly every other gtk2 correctly for the scrollbars. -John Knight On 09/11/2012 09:38 AM, ?? ??? wrote: Hello John, FYI, Thunderbird uses XUL with a theming compatibility layer, not GTK2. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XUL for details. This is a wrong list to contact indeed. I'd rather contact Ubuntu Mozilla team, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam -- Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] ubuntu side panel
Hi, Try right clicking on the icon. When I right click on the Home folder I get a list of subfolders that I can open. Documents, Downloads, Music, etc.. There are ways to do what you ask. When you right click on an icon the menu that appears is called a quicklist. These quicklists can be edited in most cases to add functions that don't appear by default. One way to do this is by using Ubuntu Tweak, a useful tool that allows you to do many things. It is not in the default repositories, so you must enable the repo that it is in. To install: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:tualatrix/ppa sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install ubuntu-tweak Open up ubuntu tweak and navigate to admin > quicklist editor. From here you will be able to add to what appears in the quicklists. Best of luck. On 09/11/2012 04:36 AM, Oleguer Canal wrote: > Hi, it's my first post, please be understanding if I'm wrong. I just > want to collaborate. > > I don't think that ubuntu side panel is too simple. In fact, in my > opinion, most of the times simplicity equals to beauty. > The main problem I find in it is that, the acces to your folders (for > example) is too slow, and my question is: would it be possible to get > some icons grouped so that when you pass your mouse over the main icon a > second panel appears just next to the first one containing the other > accesses? > (for example): > > Docs > my folderPhotos > Music > Videos > > This could also be usefull for aplications such as libreoffice, that > have diferent programs. Users could save space in the main bar and the > accesses would be faster. > We could even let users create their own "folders" so that they can > group their favourite applications. > > Thank you for the attention. > > -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] possible light-themes/murrine bug, trying to find out who to contact
Hello John, FYI, Thunderbird uses XUL with a theming compatibility layer, not GTK2. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XUL for details. This is a wrong list to contact indeed. I'd rather contact Ubuntu Mozilla team, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam -- Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] ubuntu side panel
Hi, it's my first post, please be understanding if I'm wrong. I just want to collaborate. I don't think that ubuntu side panel is too simple. In fact, in my opinion, most of the times simplicity equals to beauty.The main problem I find in it is that, the acces to your folders (for example) is too slow, and my question is: would it be possible to get some icons grouped so that when you pass your mouse over the main icon a second panel appears just next to the first one containing the other accesses?(for example): Docsmy folderPhotos Music Videos This could also be usefull for aplications such as libreoffice, that have diferent programs. Users could save space in the main bar and the accesses would be faster.We could even let users create their own "folders" so that they can group their favourite applications. Thank you for the attention. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
