Re: [ubuntu-art] Hardy GTK Theme

2007-11-05 Thread Brian White
Neil J Patels mockups look great to me.  I would really support
working on this for Hardy or Hardy +1.

A small nitpick that may be more subjective than anything else--I
prefer it when themes give the close, minimize, and maximize buttons
different shapes (or at least different colors).  From a usablility
standpoint, this means I immediately know the function of each button
without having to experiment to find out.

Otherwise, this looks fantastic.  Very distinctive and professional.
Any word yet it we think this would be possible with Murrine or
Aurora?  A mockup is one thing...implementing it is another.

Cheers,
Brian White

On 11/5/07, Sam Bristow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think that Neil J Patels mockups have a huge amount of potential for
> Hardy. One aspect not covered in those mockups (from what I saw) is
> identifying inactive windows. It needs to be obvious which window is
> active and which windows are not. This is hit-and-miss with other
> themes, some do it well, others seem to completely ignore it.
>
> Cheers,
> Sam  (KidProQuo)
>
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Re: [ubuntu-art] First idea ...

2007-07-30 Thread Brian White
I really like this!  My only suggestion would be to use the rounded
ubuntu logo font.

On Mon, 2007-07-30 at 09:40 +0200, Filipe DA COSTA wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Here you have my first idea for a wallpaper:
> 
> http://www.play.lu/host/test_01_002.jpg
> 
> I try to find a perfect color combination for an orange/brown theme. For 
> now this orange-to-blue seems not that bad ...
> 
> Comments welcome ...
> 
> Thx,
> DA COSTA Filipe
> 
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Re: [ubuntu-art] List Submissions

2007-07-27 Thread Brian White
I would also be willing to help sift through some of the messages.

Best,
Brian 

On Thu, 2007-07-26 at 22:46 -0700, Troy James Sobotka wrote:
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> 
> >> However, I am asking
> >> permission from the list to simply delete them all, and start anew.
> >> Opinions would be appreciated.
> 
> Kenneth Wimer wrote:
> > As one can simply join the team and post to the list I think it would be 
> > fine 
> > to simply delete all the submissions from non-members.
> > 
> > Anyone seriously intersested in posting to this list can and will join the 
> > team and post their mail so in my opinion, delete them.
> > 
> 
> In the interest of freedom and openness, and strictly from a personal
> vantage, I am quite interested in the thoughts and opinions of people
> 'outside' those that would be willing to join a list.
> 
> It is truly unfortunate that we would need to delete them?  Could we not
> permit such messages until the point that our spam trappers fail?
> 
> Is there a way to examine the mails and pass applicable messages onto
> the official listing?  I might be able to manage a few of them, but my
> schedule now with a few projects nearing completion is rather full.
> 
> That said, in the interest of at least showing concern and dedication, I
> would be willing to try and sift through them.
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> TJS
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Re: [ubuntu-art] call for Gutsy artwork

2007-07-26 Thread Brian White
This is a question I've had about synaptic for a while now--why doesn't
it conform to the rest of the desktop's theme?  Is it a GTK1
application?  If it is, what needs to be done to port synaptic to GTK2
so that it will fit in with the rest of the desktop?  Is this something
the art team can help with, or would it require more heavy lifting on
the programming side?

I definitely look forward to the art team coming up with some great
wallpapers.  As Ken said, Breezy was awesome in that regard!

Brian

On Fri, 2007-07-27 at 03:25 +0300, Nemes Ioan Sorin wrote:
> Man,
> we need to start with the philosophy behind -> ;)
> 
> Ok, back to problem
> 
> First - we need to chose OR to make a set of default themes.
> Not every new user is a geek - mostly - work with what they got
> without any change.
> 
> Second - this community must work hand in hand with core programmers
> because a needed move must be done :
> 
> a. Same Icons from the same Theme on All Places -> no Mixtures like 
> until   now -> Tango or Tangerine must be finished on the whole plenitude.
> 
> b. for the admin tasks - many users - especially new users, find that
> Synaptic for example use a strange theme with huge buttons - not current 
> Theme. This must be solved. Apps. under the root credentials must use 
> default User theme when work in user space.
> 
> Else, happy sounds, wallpapers, icons, themes, skins, ...etc, - to all!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Kenneth Wimer wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > Things for Gutsy are heating up and, as usual, we are bit behind in the 
> > wallpaper artwork.
> > 
> > Any ideas for Gutsy are more than welcome. Perhaps together we can make 
> > something unique and new which fulfills the high expectations awaited from 
> > us.
> > 
> > The best way to work on this would be to create a wiki page with new ideas 
> > and 
> > work further from there.
> > 
> > Hopefully we can create something as unique and amazing as the wallpaper in 
> > breezy which, in my personal opinion, was simply amazing.
> > 
> > Ken
> > 
> 
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Colour

2007-04-15 Thread Brian White
Now, I'm certainly no expert, so I don't want to claim any expertise on
the subject.  However, I do have two suggestions to add to the
discussion.  First of all, in my experience, I certainly do seem to have
a psychological reaction to certain colors.  I think all of us have
experienced this phenomenon.  However, I don't believe that "good color
design" requires using the same colors all the time for the same effect.
In many ways, I think how one uses the colors is also important.  Now,
I'm not trying to argue that brown is just as "relaxing" as blue--in my
experience, blue tends to be more calming.  However, I would point out
that not every type of blue is calming and relaxing.  For example, the
high contrast of the dark blues and white sprays of a stormy sea are
hardly relaxing.  I think because most of us agree that blue is a nice,
relaxing color, in design we have used it in such a way so as to produce
this effect.  My point is, I wonder if it is not possible to do
something nearly the same with brown--or at least to do it better than
it is being done right now.

My second point is an obvious one, and probably does not bear repeating,
except that it is a bit of my pet-idea right now, which I would love to
see become a pet project.  It seems undeniable that color is largely a
culturally-based phenomenon as far as color psychology goes.  Now, I
know that some colors are more "universal" in their appeal than others,
but let's remember that while to some cultures white represents
cleanliness and purity, in other cultures it is quite the opposite--the
color of death.  In America, blue and black are considered "formal
colors," and we tend to associate stability and truthfulness with blue.
However, in Korea (I work in a Korean church and currently live in Asia,
though I would not want to speak for all Asian peoples), these feelings
have traditionally been associated with pink.

If we're going to argue about the default color scheme, we first need to
decide who the target audience should be.  Also, I think it is important
to take in mind all the different problems associated with deciding on a
good color design and theme--usability is big, but so is branding.

Well, I guess that's all my two cents now.

What I would love to see now are some ideas on how to better implement
the current color scheme, as I think it can be done--I'm just not
artistic enough to know how it should be done. :)

Thanks,
Brian
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Colour

2007-04-13 Thread Brian White
Hi, all.

This certainly isn't the first time we've seen this discussion cropping
up on the ubuntu-art mailing list.  I remember a year or two ago someone
suggested that because themes are such a personally subjective matter
(and for many they are the the first and easiest way to personalize
one's computer, along with the wallpaper), perhaps we should offer a
small selection of theme options at install time.  

Now, I know that some might argue that we already do offer multiple
themes that are easily changed once installation is finished.  This is
true, however, I think it would be an easy, fun and even rewarding
option, especially for new users to be able to initially customize your
own computer (it is your computer, after all) right from the get-go--the
first time you boot up your new ubuntu machine, it asks you which theme
you would like to use, with Human as the default.  

My mother used the Luna theme for Windows XP for the longest time (her
work computer...I have her on linux at home, of course!), but not
because she liked it, but because she didn't know how to change it.
Linux is about choice, and I think this is a nice and simple choice we
can offer people right from the beginning to demonstrate this ideal.
This is probably something to bring up more on the development side of
things than the ubuntu-art group, but I thought I would mention it once
again since it seemed a relevant option at this point in the discussion.

In regards to some of the other elements of the discussion, Ubuntu,
itself, as many of you have suggested, is cross-cultural and rooted in
different meanings to different people.  I agree that there needs to be
a "stock ubuntu" look, and I think the Human theme works admirably for
that purpose.  But I would be very curious as to what would happen if we
asked people from all different cultures to come up with their own
ubuntu theme.  I think it would be really neat to see what the world can
come up with.  

Naturally, this is not a project I could see being completed in the near
future, and it would certainly take a certain degree of cultural
sensitivity.  But, I think it would be really empowering, then, once
ubuntu started up to have a selection of 5 or 6 themes that were perhaps
based on these culturally-derived themes so that anyone who runs ubuntu
can immediately feel, "Hey, this OS feels right--it's like it was made
for me."  We offer a selection of languages at install time, why not a
selection of themes, as they seem to be culturally relevant (or at the
least, personally subjectively relevant), as well.

Well, I always halfway appreciate this discussion and halfway dread it
when it crops up.  I guess here's my 2 cents. :)  Thanks for everyone's
hard work.

Most appreciatively,
Brian
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