Re: [ubuntu-art] "Start here" button

[Joshua Booth]

What if Sebastian made a beveled push-button style start-here button, like
the ones for the power icons featuring the Ubuntu logo on it instead of an
arrow, etc. That would certainly match.
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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Power option icons (help wanted)

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On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Ryan Prior  wrote:

> They look fake? What are they supposed to look like? They're glyphs!
>
I don't know, do they?

I think they look a little too Tango. Isn't that what we're trying to avoid?
Perhaps more gloss would do the trick.
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Impression Alpha3 Uploaded to Wiki

[Joshua Booth]

This looks a lot like New Wave, only in my opinion it's worse because of the
simple Metacity and the glossy look of the highlight.

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 11:04 PM, John Baer  wrote:

> The single most significant change between Alpha2 and Alpha3 is the
> replacement of the clearlooks engine with the latest release of murrine.
> As the scrollbars and scale widgets exert a great influence on the
> appearance of the theme, I decided to stay with the "pixmap" engine to
> render these widgets as well as the handlebox and stratus grip. As far
> as I can tell performance is still very good.
>
> One of the driving factor of this theme is to make it as dark as
> possible without losing black as a colour. I didn't want to use gray as
> it presents "blue-ish" and decided to use a colour which has a slight
> brown tint. The metacity frame is themed to match and the outcome is a
> blended appearance top to bottom. One thing I observed using a 1024x768
> resolution is most applications run full screen. In my opinion this
> theme displays well at this resolution providing the user with a
> pleasant uniform presentation.
>
> Staying true to Ubuntu, the colour orange is used as much as possible.
> Although this theme is configurable via the gnome user preferences, I
> fully admit it contains hard coded elements.
>
> In crafting the gtkrc I attempted to provide as many comments as
> possible to aide other GTK theme developers.
>
> http://www.projwiki.com/index.cgi/CategoryImpressionAlpha3GtkRc
>
> What's left to do?
>
> I believe the widget hierarchy of the gtkrc file is good as every
> program I tested displayed as expected. Possible changes include colour
> adjustments or abandoning the pixmap engine using murrine to render the
> scrollbar and scale widgets.
>
> If you install the svn132 murrine engine existing murrine themes such as
> Human will break. :(
>
> Check it out!
>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Jaunty/Impression
>
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Yukai theme ( Metacity )

[Joshua Booth]

Looks rather 70s, actually. The third one with the lines disrupts the
readability and just looks rather "out there." I prefer the second because
having the orange polygon in the middle looks out of place.

The curve of the minimize button is rather grainy, either from the
resolution or the way it was made. I suggest making it smoother.

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> Hi everyone ,
>
> I'm working on a new theme as i told before .
> I did some more work on the buttons , giving it a smoother look .
>
> Here you'll find it :
>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Auticoder
>
> Feel free to comment
>
> Greetings ,
>
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[ubuntu-art] Canonical's approach to Jaunty

[Joshua Booth]

Doesn't this boil down to bugging the makers of Gnome? Where are the
improvements that we should be seeing? Windows 7 is already on its way here
and Gnome has the same old stuff. Sure, some updates in Intrepid, but
nothing really special. It all comes down to coding, in reality. Perhaps
it's our job to actually get involved in Gnome's development.
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[ubuntu-art] Breathe various submissions

[Joshua Booth]

Can we *please* stray away from adding logos to the icons? Having the logo
on the terminal icon is just plain annoying and kind of ruins a perfectly
nice looking icon.

One logo of Ubuntu in the Applications menu is enough.
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[ubuntu-art] Breathe drive-optical

[Joshua Booth]

I like the lighter white. Breathe would go much better with white and light
gray, but this looks a little too dark.
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[ubuntu-art] Breathe rhythmbox

[Joshua Booth]

Download Inkscape and open the SVG there. They're vector
graphicimages.
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Breathe user-trash

[Joshua Booth]

I like the orange. The other colors aren't very subtle. I would recommend,
actually, dark green, white, or even gray if we're going for realism here.

I'm kind of sick of Ubuntu orange, if you know what I'm talking about here.

On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 6:33 AM, Danny King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > in my country public bins look like this:
> > http://kultura.hu/img/upload/200703/kuka.jpg
> > http://www.alon.hu/blogs/media/1kuka_kis.jpg
> >
> > so there are plastic bins :)
>
> Sorry, I wasn't very clear. I know there are plastic bins, I have two
> in my office ;)  I just haven't seen any mate finish type bins that
> are so bright. I should stress I do like the mate finish effect
> though!
>
>
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> Say hello, send me a mail! I'm looking for more like me.
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Kyu-do-: Audience and Message (stay on-topic)

[Joshua Booth]

How is a movie application off-topic from application support? It it's part
of Kyodo, then shouldn't we discuss it?

On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 8:53 AM, Cory K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I will moderate anyone that replies off-topic to this thread again.
>
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Kyūdō: Audience and Message

[Joshua Booth]

I know it's only for KDE - I said so...

Thanks, I'll try pitivi.

2008/9/27 Michael Stephenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>
>
> 2008/9/27 Joshua Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>>  There are only seven movie editors I can find. Cinelerra may be
>> professional, but it has nowhere near the potential that the easy interface
>> of Windows Movie Maker had. The only thing that is Gnome-based and that
>> seems to have a nice interface is Kino, and it *doesn't even have a
>> timeline. *How are you supposed to make a movie without a timeline?
>>
>> The only other program that does have a timeline is Kdenlive, but it's for
>> KDE and for some reason crashes whenever I use it. Plus there hasn't been an
>> update since 2007, and the latest news is from June 26, 2008.
>>
>> The new version was scheduled for release in March. And the year is almost
>> through. It's definitely time for a new movie editor, one that has all the
>> functionality of Kdenlive and the usability of Kino.
>>
>
> FYI Kino is KDE based, not Gnome based. Have you tried Pitivi? It has a
> good time line, a very intuitive interface.
> It is lacking in features, but what it does do it does right. There is no
> need for a *new* movie editor, because
> when Pitivi gets there it will what most people want from a video editor.
>
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Early Breathe Submissions

[Joshua Booth]

2nd one indeed. The first is just TOO much Ubuntu, and I don't even like the
design at all.

We could make it look like a normal trashcan, without the symbol, just a
black kind of cross-hatch design. But hey, whatever works, right?

On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Cory K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> spg76 wrote:
> > 2008/9/29 Thorsten Wilms <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
>  >
> > Hi!
> >
> > We now have 3 items on the submissions page, all thanks to Sebastian
> > Porta.
> >
> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions
> >
> > After talking with Cory, we decided that it's best if all submissions
> > there are also announced to the list, so they can be discussed in the
> > open. It's also a good idea to join us on IRC, #ubuntu-artwork.
> >
> >
> >
> > I already provided feedback to the artist on the first user-trash and
> > the dictionary and don't want to repeat it here now.
> >
> >
> > Cory and I are quite happy about the user-trash2. It provides a good
> > impression of depth in the large size. This could perhaps be improved
> > for smaller size by making the inner wall darker.
> >
> > The recycling logo is very nice on the large size, but perhaps the
> > arrow
> > heads need to stand out a bit more for smaller sizes.
> >
> > The shading on the main body gives a good impression of half-matt
> > plastic. The border on the top is less convincing. Maybe it's just
> the
> > lack of a shadow beneath it.
> >
> > The base of the bin needs to be darker. The rounded edge above the
> > base
> > would benefit from a smooth darker gradient.
> >
> > I'm not sure about the color, as I think we should avoid making
> > everything orange, but we could get back it after other icons are in.
> > We will likely need a few iterations, anyway.
> >
> > Cory was already willing to place it on the accepted icon page. With
> a
> > few tweaks as mentioned above, I will agree :)
> >
> >
> > I'm glad you and Cory like the new user-trash. I'll take notice of
> > your suggestions and update the wiki with a new version and announce
> > it here for discussion.
>
> Yes. I think the 2nd one is the direction we want to go. I guess various
> color options should be explored.
>
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Kyūdō: Audience and Message

[Joshua Booth]

There are only seven movie editors I can find. Cinelerra may be
professional, but it has nowhere near the potential that the easy interface
of Windows Movie Maker had. The only thing that is Gnome-based and that
seems to have a nice interface is Kino, and it *doesn't even have a
timeline. *How are you supposed to make a movie without a timeline?

The only other program that does have a timeline is Kdenlive, but it's for
KDE and for some reason crashes whenever I use it. Plus there hasn't been an
update since 2007, and the latest news is from June 26, 2008.

The new version was scheduled for release in March. And the year is almost
through. It's definitely time for a new movie editor, one that has all the
functionality of Kdenlive and the usability of Kino.

On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 8:24 AM, Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> > So we need:
> > -Vid editor
> > -Third party office support(PS, After Effects, AutoCad..)
> >
> > And a pretty interface, of course!
>
> i agree we need a good video editor, like imovie, and openoffice is
> great but they have so dumb mistakes (for example if you would use a lot
> of shortcuts like alt+menushortcut+menuitemshortcut, in openoffice ater
> u hit alt it opens the file menu so you have to hit escape and than
> start hitting the other shortcuts, seems a stupid thing but if u use
> office all day u need these shotcuts..)
> or comparing impress to apples keynote.. different dimensions.
>
> however i dont think the games are so important. people play on xbox not
> on pc anymore.
>
> >
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> >
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[ubuntu-art] We *will* create a new icon set for Ubuntu. (naming)

[Joshua Booth]

No one seems to have taken heed: Howabout Air or Atmoshpere? Breathe just
sounds a little disgusting.
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Folder Icon challenge.

[Joshua Booth]

Ah yes, that is the one I was looking for. These are much more modern, and
even resemble the new Dust icons somewhat.

On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 6:27 AM, Yann Dìnendal <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> What about this one? It looks great!
>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/Intrepid_Ibex_Icons_-_Art_Team?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=troyfoldericon.png
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Re: [ubuntu-art] First try at Wallpapers

[Joshua Booth]

Why are there three black squares? The clash with the orange and they're
inconsistent. I would take those out.

On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 10:53 AM, Dylan McCall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> I like Hot Wave! It's abstract, but vibrant and exciting. The only
> thing wrong with Ubuntu's old abstract backgrounds is they always
> looked a bit dull to me...
> I think the grey background really nails this one by helping the
> foreground stand out much better without stealing its colour. VERY
> cool effect.
>
> Anyone else think the foreground looks kind of bird-like?
>
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Re : IbexSunset-widescreen

[Joshua Booth]

I rather like it.

On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 5:24 AM, Anton Kerezov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> В 09:55 +0200 на 20.08.2008 (ср), Bart Van Loy написа:
> > About the view , i did something about it ( used another ibex and it
> > looks better , i think ) maybe you like it the new way.
> > Feel free to view the new one on
> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/IbexSunset-widescreen
> > Comments , tips are welcome ...
>
> It looks definitely better. Now it has atmosphere! One tip from me: you
> can add some more clouds above the sun and on the whole wallpaper to
> make it feel more natural.
>
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Dust Theme

[Joshua Booth]

@Ken

Well said. Who really needs all those Clearlooks, Redmond, Crux themes,
etc.?

On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Ken Vermette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 11:33 AM, Vadim Peretokin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>> You already have your polls then on Digg.com.
>>
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> If nothing else, the themes we have here could replace all the existing
> themes in Ubuntu. Sure, the glorious default theme is something to debate,
> but remember; we have at least 8 or 9 alternate themes packaged with Ubuntu,
> we could easily get rid of 5 or so because of their similarities, and use
> the extra room to just blow-away the alternate themes.  With mix-and
> matching, we could easily and vastly include the variety of pre-packed
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Union theme

[Joshua Booth]

I don't even know why I'm posting here, I just figured that if I wanted to
get better themes from Ubuntu I would have to help make it happen myself. I
haven't gotten into theming because I doubt I would benefit from it. I'm
sticking to website and graphics design.

Why is it so much isn't possible by current technology? You'd think gtk
would be a little better by now.

On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 4:32 PM, Ken Vermette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 4:20 PM, Joshua Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>>  This theme is nice, glossy, and I would definitely use it. The ugly
>> brown just doesn't have the feeling of a modern desktop. With some
>> improvement Union would make a great default theme.
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/Union
>>
>> Does anyone know of any way to get my hands on at least a beta of this
>> theme? Is anyone even working on it?
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> At this point, Union is just an impossible theme to build with current
> technology. It requires Murrine RGBA which is not supported by very many
> programs. The dropdowns are also impossible.
>
> Granted, the theme was a good jumping point, and if you check out Kith,
> Kin, Tonic, and other themes, they are all derived from Union at some point,
> and share similarities as more "realistic" style of Union.
>
> On another note; I'm way too busy for the next week and a half to post
> updates on Kin.
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[ubuntu-art] Union theme

[Joshua Booth]

This theme is nice, glossy, and I would definitely use it. The ugly brown
just doesn't have the feeling of a modern desktop. With some improvement
Union would make a great default theme.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/Union

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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Wave new version available

[Joshua Booth]

This theme looks similar to a theme that I use (Out of 50+ themes I can't
find anything I like better) called NiteLight Gnome
http://ebupof.deviantart.com/art/NiteLite-GNOME-Pack-90872564. It's a good
thing that people are starting to make more black and white themes. I doubt,
however, it would go over well with Canonical.

On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 2:12 PM, Anton Kerezov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> В 10:44 -0700 на 14.08.2008 (чт), Dylan McCall написа:
> > Anton, I love how you have made the Nautilus side bar bearable to look
> > at. Lots of themes make the side bar white except for the drag handle,
> > which looks really bad. The squared off buttons are a nice departure
> > from the round widgets which have become 'the norm'. I think they look
> > good!
> > This avoids all those dumb jagged corners on the windows, among other
> things.
> >
> > Is that shadow on the bottom border new? It's a good addition, because
> > before the shadows on the Metacity theme risked being (while
> > attracive) inconsistent with the shadows everywhere else. It may be a
> > good idea to run Metacity with its compositor turned on and try to
> > have the theme's shadows match what Metacity's compositor does.
> >
> > I think the orange highlight on selected widgets is just the right
> > touch of Ubuntuish orangeness.
> >
> > Good work!
> > -Dylan
>
> Thank you Dylan! And yes the shadow on the bottom border is new. I will
> try to look at the metacity theme too.
>
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[ubuntu-art] Transparency

[Joshua Booth]

Frankly, I don't understand people's attacks against transparency. I am so
sick of black panels and then the white panels aren't comfortable to me. If
they're transparent you can see right through to your comfortable wallpaper,
and also "clear" just looks cooler to me.

I believe someone said that rounded edges weren't possible yet or something
like that. The NewHuman theme for Ubuntu (which I finally downloaded to take
a better look at it myself, and I think it clashes in every respect,
especially the white on brown) has rounded edges by using its Metacity
theme.

I don't understand why you need an actual copy of the Will Williams mockup.
If he did it, surely the Ubuntu Design Team can.
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex Theme

[Joshua Booth]

To me the rounded edges aren't an issue at all in the long run. If the
developers could get something remotely like that theme it would be a vast
improvement.

On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 4:18 PM, Vadim Peretokin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Joshua Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>> Someone made a flesh-and-bone GDM theme based off of the mock-up, and it
>> has a rounded corner, too:
>> http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Intrepid+Ibex+GDM?content=86712
>>
>
>
> Now that is a totally different story!
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex Theme

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Someone made a flesh-and-bone GDM theme based off of the mock-up, and it has
a rounded corner, too:
http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Intrepid+Ibex+GDM?content=86712

On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 3:26 PM, Dylan McCall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The GDM mockup that guy made has a striking resemblance to New Wave,
> so this may not be as far off as we assume. One issue with the mockup
> is that it is hoping for rounded corners at the bottom of windows, but
> there is no border to acomodate this. That can be overcome by having a
> thicker bottom border, which is a good idea anyway for easily resizing
> the window.
>
> Forcing a round corner without adding a Metacity window border to
> accommodate it (if it was possible within today's infrastructure,
> which I do not believe is so) would need to cut off actual content. We
> don't want that. MPlayer users, for example, would kill us.
>
> Ideally, I think window decoration themes should be superceded by GTK
> container widgets, which may afford us some interesting control along
> these lines. Until then - if that is even possible or remotely
> desirable, which is iffy - ... it wouldn't be looking like the mockup.
>
> I think the colour scheme is pretty decent, though, and I appreciate
> that this mockup keeps the actual software intact. There are some nice
> ideas in here :)
> Oh, cool background, too. And that wifi icon is actually useful; it
> takes the extra step of actually using an antenna to describe what the
> signal strength bars represent, which is Really Important yet
> strangely never done. (Even in those operating systems that spend
> millions on usability testing).
>
> Bye,
> -Dylan
>
> PS: *Sniff* *Sniff* I smell HTML!
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex Theme

[Joshua Booth]

To me this looks much more modern and usable than the current Ibex theme in
the making. So I like it.

On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Caputo, Luke A SPC RES USAR <
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> - Original Message -
> From: Joshua Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Monday, August 11, 2008 14:39
> Subject: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex Theme
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> > This is
> the kind of thing Ubuntu needs to start making. The new Ibex theme is
> hideous and almost unusable for non-native applications, and and I disliked
> the last theme too.
>  
> http://fc02.deviantart.com/fs31/i/2008/215/e/1/Interpid_Ibex_Mockup_Part_1_by_willwill100.png";
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> that classy wooden theme is extremely beautiful... im not sure if you
> disapprove of it or love it, but this theme definitely takes the cake for me
> :)
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[ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex Theme

[Joshua Booth]

This is the kind of thing Ubuntu needs to start making. The new Ibex theme
is hideous and almost unusable for non-native applications, and and I
disliked the last theme too.

http://fc02.deviantart.com/fs31/i/2008/215/e/1/Interpid_Ibex_Mockup_Part_1_by_willwill100.png
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