Re: [ubuntu-art] .doc, .xls, etc icons in Humanity Update

[Merk]

I hate to keep replying to this, but I would like some feedback...

I made some updates.  
* Made the letters so they're all the same size (a problem I didn't
notice until my last post)
* Put highlight around the letters
* Made the edges round
http://old.nabble.com/file/p27900110/office.icons.update.png 

Oh I've also 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/humanity-icon-theme/+bug/537358
filed a bug 


Merk wrote:
> 
> So I see a lot of nice changes with the humanity icon update.  However the
> icons for .doc, .xls etc are really bothersome.
> The icons are blatantly ripped off the OSX version of Office. Why?
> I can understand having a W be pronounced in the icon for .doc like all
> versions of word, but why make the W exactly like that in the OSX version? 
> Most people coming to Ubuntu would be coming from Windows if anything.
> 
> I removed the Mac OS X Word W and replaced it simply with the Ubuntu Title
> Font and already find it an improvement
>  http://old.nabble.com/file/p27613841/humanity.png Current Humanity .doc
> file 
>  http://old.nabble.com/file/p27613841/humanity2.png Slight change to
> Humanity .doc file 
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Re: [ubuntu-art] .doc, .xls, etc icons in Humanity Update

[Merk]

Made all 4 icons.
Granted the font is not finished so I had to make up what letters would look
like. Even so I hope these are used instead of the Mac ones currently in the
theme
http://old.nabble.com/file/p27839563/light.ms-access.svg light.ms-access.svg 
http://old.nabble.com/file/p27839563/light.ms-excel.svg light.ms-excel.svg 
http://old.nabble.com/file/p27839563/light.ms-powerpoint.svg
light.ms-powerpoint.svg 
http://old.nabble.com/file/p27839563/light.ms-word.svg light.ms-word.svg 



Merk wrote:
> 
> So as you know, Canonical's gone and changed their font and they're not
> even done with it!
> 
> As there currently is no W, I took the b and mirrored it to get a P for
> Powerpoint
>  http://old.nabble.com/file/p27795741/light.ms-powerpoint.svg PPT file
> with Ubuntu's new font 
> 
> 
> Merk wrote:
>> 
>> So I see a lot of nice changes with the humanity icon update.  However
>> the icons for .doc, .xls etc are really bothersome.
>> The icons are blatantly ripped off the OSX version of Office. Why?
>> I can understand having a W be pronounced in the icon for .doc like all
>> versions of word, but why make the W exactly like that in the OSX
>> version?  Most people coming to Ubuntu would be coming from Windows if
>> anything.
>> 
>> I removed the Mac OS X Word W and replaced it simply with the Ubuntu
>> Title Font and already find it an improvement
>>  http://old.nabble.com/file/p27613841/humanity.png Current Humanity .doc
>> file 
>>  http://old.nabble.com/file/p27613841/humanity2.png Slight change to
>> Humanity .doc file 
>> 
> 
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Re: [ubuntu-art] MeMenu icon, why not Humanity style?

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It's intentional because there is no MeMenu is OS X to rip off for an icon


Hajo E. wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Having a look at the default look of lucid, you can see all icons in
> upper gnome-panel to be flat, monochromatic, mac-like and simple
> *except* the MeMenu "bubble". Is this a conscious decision or will it
> be changed to have a consistent set of symbols up there?
> 
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Metacity Button Order Changed

[Merk]

Fine we shouldn't do something just because OS X or Windows does it.

But what was the research done to show that left aligned, maximize,
minimize, close was the best option?

Without explanation, it just feels arbitrary and change for the sake of
change.


Richard Querin wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Dana Goyette 
> wrote:
> 
>> Not only are the buttons on the left, but they're not even correct for
>> "buttons on the left"!
>>
>> What OS X has:close, minimize, maximize : menu
>> What we have: maximize, minimize, close : menu
>> What Windows has: menu : minimize, maximize, close
>>
>> As it is right now, the theme will break muscle memory for everyone
>> coming from Windows, OS X, and even all other Linux distros (including
>> previous versions of Ubuntu)!
>>
>>
> Is breaking muscle memory that important? You've just illustrated that
> Windows and OSX are different from one another anyway. Mac OS doesn't even
> have a separate menu on each window and yet people still seem perfectly
> able
> to switch from Windows to OSX. Perhaps we should concentrate on making the
> design attractive, unique AND useful without worrying so much about
> providing maximum correlation with what has been done before.
> 
> While it's important to look at other systems for context, we should not
> be
> a slave to what the others are doing. Doing that I think we will always be
> a
> step or two behind.
> 
> Of course all of this design stuff depends on who Ubuntu is being aimed
> at.
> Is that documented somewhere?
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Re: [ubuntu-art] .doc, .xls, etc icons in Humanity Update

[Merk]

So as you know, Canonical's gone and changed their font and they're not even
done with it!

As there currently is no W, I took the b and mirrored it to get a P for
Powerpoint
http://old.nabble.com/file/p27795741/light.ms-powerpoint.svg PPT file with
Ubuntu's new font 


Merk wrote:
> 
> So I see a lot of nice changes with the humanity icon update.  However the
> icons for .doc, .xls etc are really bothersome.
> The icons are blatantly ripped off the OSX version of Office. Why?
> I can understand having a W be pronounced in the icon for .doc like all
> versions of word, but why make the W exactly like that in the OSX version? 
> Most people coming to Ubuntu would be coming from Windows if anything.
> 
> I removed the Mac OS X Word W and replaced it simply with the Ubuntu Title
> Font and already find it an improvement
>  http://old.nabble.com/file/p27613841/humanity.png Current Humanity .doc
> file 
>  http://old.nabble.com/file/p27613841/humanity2.png Slight change to
> Humanity .doc file 
> 

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Metacity Button Order Changed

[Merk]

That's still "relearning behavior for no obvious benefit"

hotice wrote:
> 
> It's because the buttons will be on the left, not right side afterall:
> http://www.webupd8.org/2010/03/almost-official-ubuntu-1004-lucid-will.html
> 
> On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 16:21, Saleel Velankar  wrote:
> 
>> Yeah doesn't this force user to relearn behavior, for no obvious benefit?
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Mark Curtis 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>  Just curious, what is the thought behind the change?
>>> As in, why is it deemed better to change the order?
>>>
>>> > From: kw...@ubuntu.com
>>> > To: ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com
>>> > Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 11:17:05 +
>>> > CC: bae...@gmail.com
>>> > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] Metacity Button Order Changed
>>>
>>> >
>>> > On Friday 05 March 2010 01:43:43 am John Baer wrote:
>>> > > I noticed in today's upgrade (03/04) the order of the metacity's
>>> > > "minimize" and "maximized" buttons changed.
>>> > >
>>> > > In the old metacity the order was; minimize, maximize, close
>>> > >
>>> > > In the new metacity the order is: maximize, minimize, close
>>> > >
>>> > > Is this the desired effect or is this a bug?
>>> >
>>> > This is the desired effect.
>>> >
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Community Themes Too Hard To Find

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What if the community themes showed up in appearance, but faded and when
clicked the user was prompted to install?


Andrew SB wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 8:20 PM, John Baer  wrote:
>> As I installed community themes and I found the only way to locate the
>> package was through Syntapic search.
>>
>> As Software Center becomes the desired software installation tool is
>> there a way to add this package?
>>
> 
> In Karmic software-center only presented GUI applications (with a few
> special exceptions). This is no longer the case in Lucid. Searching
> for "community themes" in software-center will now show the desired
> package. Though if you just search for themes, it is buried deeply and
> applications are still featured more prominently.
> 
> See this blueprint for reference:
> https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-lucid-non-applications-in-software-center
> 
> I'm not sure how we can make it more findable. One idea would be to
> ask the desktop-team to consider placing it in the featured section.
> Although, the current criteria states that featured packages should be
> applications. You might want to send an email asking about this to the
> desktop list.
> 
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Re: [ubuntu-art] .doc, .xls, etc icons in Humanity Update

[Merk]

Thank you, if you look through this thread, there are a few other variations
I did.
Adding stroke, trying a different version of the Ubuntu Title Font.
http://old.nabble.com/file/p27617704/humanity-msword.svg Stroke 
http://old.nabble.com/file/p27626085/humanity-msword2.svg Stroke with
alternate font 


jacob de brouwer wrote:
> 
> well, that is a lot better merk, definitly should be implented. the
> current
> logo is indeed a bit to... mac os X  like. great work merk[?]
> 
> 2010/2/16 Merk 
> 
>>
>> So I see a lot of nice changes with the humanity icon update.  However
>> the
>> icons for .doc, .xls etc are really bothersome.
>> The icons are blatantly ripped off the OSX version of Office. Why?
>> I can understand having a W be pronounced in the icon for .doc like all
>> versions of word, but why make the W exactly like that in the OSX
>> version?
>> Most people coming to Ubuntu would be coming from Windows if anything.
>>
>> I removed the Mac OS X Word W and replaced it simply with the Ubuntu
>> Title
>> Font and already find it an improvement
>> http://old.nabble.com/file/p27613841/humanity.png Current Humanity .doc
>> file
>> http://old.nabble.com/file/p27613841/humanity2.png Slight change to
>> Humanity
>> .doc file
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Re: [ubuntu-art] .doc, .xls, etc icons in Humanity Update

[Merk]

I made another using the upper case of that font.
http://old.nabble.com/file/p27626085/humanity-msword2.svg
humanity-msword2.svg 



Thorsten Wilms wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 2010-02-16 at 17:11 -0800, Merk wrote:
> 
>> The Ubuntu Title Font is available on sites like dafont.com
>> http://www.dafont.com/ubuntu-title.font
> 
> There are 2 and this is the better one:
> http://betatype.com/node/36
> 
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Re: [ubuntu-art] .doc, .xls, etc icons in Humanity Update

[Merk]

MAC USERS may expect that exact icon, not Windows users.   Since we can't
satisfy both exactly, we should satisfy both roughly.

By that I mean the 'visual metaphor' should be "Blue W for Word", "Green X
for Excel", etc.  Not "Stylized and gel-like font in perspective only
present in the Mac version of Office"



Kenneth Wimer-5 wrote:
> 
> On Wednesday 17 February 2010 07:38:23 am Merk wrote:
>> I'm not asking why the OS X was directly copied instead of either Windows
>> one.  I'm asking why any existing Word icon was copied at all.
> 
> It is a mimetype and as such needs to visually represent a certain type of 
> file. It goes without saying that when everyone associates a certain 
> look/letter/number with something they don't search for other visual 
> metaphors. People expect certain things to look certain ways ;)
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Re: [ubuntu-art] .doc, .xls, etc icons in Humanity Update

[Merk]

I'm not asking why the OS X was directly copied instead of either Windows
one.  I'm asking why any existing Word icon was copied at all.


Joeri Jungschlager wrote:
> 
> It has too do with the law, Apple is much more of a social company then
> Microsoft.
> Think apple putted on a flexible license. (like CC/GPL/APSL) I think the
> last one is apple used.
> Microsoft I pretty sure they not.
> 
> On 16 February 2010 20:39, Merk  wrote:
> 
>>
>> So I see a lot of nice changes with the humanity icon update.  However
>> the
>> icons for .doc, .xls etc are really bothersome.
>> The icons are blatantly ripped off the OSX version of Office. Why?
>> I can understand having a W be pronounced in the icon for .doc like all
>> versions of word, but why make the W exactly like that in the OSX
>> version?
>> Most people coming to Ubuntu would be coming from Windows if anything.
>>
>> I removed the Mac OS X Word W and replaced it simply with the Ubuntu
>> Title
>> Font and already find it an improvement
>> http://old.nabble.com/file/p27613841/humanity.png Current Humanity .doc
>> file
>> http://old.nabble.com/file/p27613841/humanity2.png Slight change to
>> Humanity
>> .doc file
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Re: [ubuntu-art] .doc, .xls, etc icons in Humanity Update

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Chris Tooley-2 wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Mark Curtis 
> wrote:
>> I deliberately didn't do perspective because I didn't want it to look too
>> much like the Mac OS X version. I was thinking of highlights and/or
>> outline,
>> where is the svg for the icon stored as that was a quick mockup from the
>> png.
>> Look at the Wikipedia article on Microsoft Word to see the icon for Mac
>> OS X
>> (as well as Windows for 2007 and 2010)
>>
>>> Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 14:09:45 -0800
>>> From: euxn...@gmail.com
>>> To: ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com
>>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] .doc, .xls, etc icons in Humanity Update
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Merk  wrote:
>>> >
>>> > So I see a lot of nice changes with the humanity icon update.  However
>>> > the
>>> > icons for .doc, .xls etc are really bothersome.
>>> > The icons are blatantly ripped off the OSX version of Office. Why?
>>> > I can understand having a W be pronounced in the icon for .doc like
>>> all
>>> > versions of word, but why make the W exactly like that in the OSX
>>> > version?
>>> > Most people coming to Ubuntu would be coming from Windows if anything.
>>> >
>>> > I removed the Mac OS X Word W and replaced it simply with the Ubuntu
>>> > Title
>>> > Font and already find it an improvement
>>> > http://old.nabble.com/file/p27613841/humanity.png Current Humanity
>>> .doc
>>> > file
>>> > http://old.nabble.com/file/p27613841/humanity2.png Slight change to
>>> > Humanity
>>> > .doc file
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>>> I like it, but I think a little bit of perspective and some highlights
>>> to match the W of the previous version would make it that much better.
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> 
> I found the icon in the elementary icons set, which you should be able
> to download from launchpad.
> https://edge.launchpad.net/~elementaryart/+archive/ppa/+packages
> 
> The icons are called things like "application-msword.svg" and
> "application-vnd-ms-excel.svg".  Perspective may not be needed  -
> also, if anyone knows how to transform perspective with inkscape,
> please let me know, but I think the gradient used in the original plus
> a shadow as per the original may be necessary :) Look at the attached
> to see what I mean (i'm currently on a mac so I don't have the ubuntu
> font and this is just a quick sketch up anyway).
> 
> You should also consider whether this implies "microsoft word" to your
> average user.
> 
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The Ubuntu Title Font is available on sites like dafont.com
http://www.dafont.com/ubuntu-title.font

I took the svg file and used the same color gradients and stroke.  I do NOT
want to do perspective as I feel that makes it lean too far to the Mac look
and not a generic Word look.  See the attached icons for Windows and Mac
versions of Word:

http://old.nabble.com/file/p27617704/200px-Microsoft_Word_2010_Icon.svg.png
Microsoft Word 2010 - Windows 
http://old.nabble.com/file/p27617704/200px-Microsoft_Word_Icon.svg.png
Microsoft Word 2007 - Windows 
http://old.nabble.com/file/p27617704/Word_Mac_2008_icon.png Microsoft Word
2008 - Mac 
http://old.nabble.com/file/p27617704/humanity-msword.svg Second version of
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[ubuntu-art] .doc, .xls, etc icons in Humanity Update

[Merk]

So I see a lot of nice changes with the humanity icon update.  However the
icons for .doc, .xls etc are really bothersome.
The icons are blatantly ripped off the OSX version of Office. Why?
I can understand having a W be pronounced in the icon for .doc like all
versions of word, but why make the W exactly like that in the OSX version? 
Most people coming to Ubuntu would be coming from Windows if anything.

I removed the Mac OS X Word W and replaced it simply with the Ubuntu Title
Font and already find it an improvement
http://old.nabble.com/file/p27613841/humanity.png Current Humanity .doc file 
http://old.nabble.com/file/p27613841/humanity2.png Slight change to Humanity
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Humanity for Quadrapassel

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Merk wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 19:24:31 -0800
>> From: euxn...@gmail.com
>> To: ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com
>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] Humanity for Quadrapassel
>> 
>> >>> On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 7:40 AM, Kenneth Wimer 
>> wrote:
>> >>> > On Thursday 07 January 2010 04:32:50 pm Merk wrote:
>> >>> >> The only thing that maybe looks relevant is "renderer.cpp", but
>> that's
>> >>> >> so
>> >>> >> much code I can't make heads or tails of it.
>> >>> >> I guess I was foolish to think that since the background was an
>> easily
>> >>> >> replaceable file, that the blocks would be too.
>> >>> >> It feels like I wasted my time on it, since I have no idea how to
>> apply
>> >>> >> it,
>> >>> >> and documentation is awful.
>> 
>> Ah, Also found it browseable online...
>> 
>> In any case, relevant code for those who are interested:
>> http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-games/tree/quadrapassel/renderer.cpp#n103
>> 
>> basically, the renderer is hard coding the look and feel in terms of
>> cairo objects. You won't be able to style them with external SVG
>> unless someone writes a styling engine. At least, that's what it looks
>> like to me. :)
>> 
>> Next step would be to talk to the gnome-game maintainers to see if
>> they want to enable skinning of cairo game objects in their code, or,
>> at least, in quadrapassel, but I would assume that skinning on all
>> apps would be a more useful and interesting endeavour.
>> 
>> Hope this helps!
>> 
>> -Chris
>> 
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> Holy Crap I thought that was it when I saw it, but I just wish it
> weren't! I emailed who I think are the maintainers about it.  I would
> think they'd want to rewrite it for theming since currently it says "the
> following garbage is derived from the official tango style guide". So
> basically they're calling that part of the code garbage
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http://old.nabble.com/file/p27201427/blocks.svg blocks.svg 

Oh well guess these won't see the light of day. Here they are anyway
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Humanity for Quadrapassel

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Kenneth Wimer-5 wrote:
> 
> On Thursday 07 January 2010 03:45:28 pm Merk wrote:
>> Kenneth Wimer-5 wrote:
>> > On Wednesday 06 January 2010 07:21:26 pm Merk wrote:
>> >> I made a series of 6 humanity inspired boxes for use with
>> Quadrapassel.
>> >> However, I have no idea how to make it into a theme so I can test it
>> in
>> >> the
>> >> game.  I asked in the GNOME Games mailing list but have not gotten a
>> >> response.  Does anyone here know?
>> >
>> > Not sure how to get it into a "theme" as such (and I have never even
>> > started
>> > quadrapassel) but all the quadrapassel pics seems to be in
>> > /usr/share/gnome-
>> > games/quadrapassel/pixmaps/
>> >
>> > --
>> > Ken
>> 
>> I looked there originally, while the background image is there,
>> "quadrapassel.svg", the texture for the blocks is not.
>> /usr/share/gnome-games/quadrapassel/pixmaps/ contains "7blocks-gw.png"
>> and
>> 7blocks-tig.png" neither of which are themes available in Quadrapassel. 
>>  The themes that are available; "flat", "Tango" and "Tango Shaded", are
>> not
>>  in said folder.
>> 
>> It does make me realize I need to do a 7th block color, but still no idea
>> how to apply it.
>> 
> 
> If you get the source to gnome-games (apt-get source gnome-games) you'll
> find 
> that the themes are with the code and are built in at compile time. In
> order 
> to add a theme you will need to add it to the code as well.
> 
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The only thing that maybe looks relevant is "renderer.cpp", but that's so
much code I can't make heads or tails of it.
I guess I was foolish to think that since the background was an easily
replaceable file, that the blocks would be too.
It feels like I wasted my time on it, since I have no idea how to apply it,
and documentation is awful.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Humanity for Quadrapassel

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Kenneth Wimer-5 wrote:
> 
> On Wednesday 06 January 2010 07:21:26 pm Merk wrote:
>> I made a series of 6 humanity inspired boxes for use with Quadrapassel.
>> However, I have no idea how to make it into a theme so I can test it in
>> the
>> game.  I asked in the GNOME Games mailing list but have not gotten a
>> response.  Does anyone here know?
>> 
> 
> Not sure how to get it into a "theme" as such (and I have never even
> started 
> quadrapassel) but all the quadrapassel pics seems to be in
> /usr/share/gnome-
> games/quadrapassel/pixmaps/
> 
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I looked there originally, while the background image is there,
"quadrapassel.svg", the texture for the blocks is not.
/usr/share/gnome-games/quadrapassel/pixmaps/ contains "7blocks-gw.png" and
7blocks-tig.png" neither of which are themes available in Quadrapassel.  The
themes that are available; "flat", "Tango" and "Tango Shaded", are not in
said folder.

It does make me realize I need to do a 7th block color, but still no idea
how to apply it.
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[ubuntu-art] Humanity for Quadrapassel

[Merk]

I made a series of 6 humanity inspired boxes for use with Quadrapassel.
However, I have no idea how to make it into a theme so I can test it in the
game.  I asked in the GNOME Games mailing list but have not gotten a
response.  Does anyone here know?
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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Boot Experience in Karmic

[Merk]

I see the mention of solid colors. Given as I've never worked on such a
thing.  What are some of the other limitations to the graphics such as color
depth, resolution, and fonts?


Mat Tomaszewski wrote:
> 
> Hi Everyone,
> 
> As some of you may already know, Ubuntu Karmic will get a whole new, 
> shiny and flicker-free boot experience. Another words, the sequence of 
> events between switching on your computer and your desktop session will 
> be largely redeveloped and redesigned.
> 
> New stuff includes:
> - grub 2, which will be silent, only accessible on-demand (by holding 
> down Shift during Bootloader initialization),
> - KMS-powered experiences for the initial boot splash, password 
> encrypted filesystem and disk-check,
> - Graphical boot splash that will be running on top of X-server, not 
> Usplash,
> - Graphical OS Switcher available by pressing ESC during the startup 
> sequence, also running on top of X,
> - GDM 2.
> 
> What's most important is: the boot will be *a lot* faster than in Jaunty 
> (sorry, no precise figures yet!). In fact, the Platform Team (Scott 
> James Remnant leading the efforts) aims at making the X-server start in 
> *no more than 3 seconds* on a reference machine (Dell Mini 9/Mini 10v). 
> What it means is that the standard boot sequence will not include 
> Usplash any longer, instead, the X-session will be started right away. 
> Therefore, the graphical boot splash screen will have the whole X-stack 
> available, including hardware acceleration...
> 
> The important news is that the look&feel of the new boot experience has 
> not been defined yet. Otto Greenslade (CC'd) is leading the work there, 
> but I'm sure he would appreciate any help. Fresh, innovative concepts is 
> what we're looking for (in-line with Ubuntu branding of course!), in 
> particular regarding the graphical boot splash (spinners, animations, 
> artwork, etc.).
> 
> The design guidelines can be found here: 
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopExperienceTeam/KarmicBootExperienceDesignSpec
> 
> Please poke kwwii or chaotic (that's Otto) on irc if you need any 
> further info!
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Mat
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Drive-harddisk Icon

[Merk]

I see, so what are these icons then? Ones that have be decided as final?  The
"Status" is either "note" or "test".

Cory K.-3 wrote:
> 
> Merk wrote:
>> What happened with icons for hard drives?
>> I see it mentioned here:
>> http://www.nabble.com/-Breathe--drive-removable-media-drive-harddisk-to22475404.html#a22475404
>> but don't see it here:
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions#Status
>>
>> I had a rather unorthodox idea for drives, where it was a collection of
>> the
>> folder icons together, perhaps in a  drawer.  I don't like the idea of
>> the
>> icon being a drive because it gives the impression that different
>> partitions, are different physical drives, which may or may not be the
>> case.
>>   
> 
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Icons/Devices
> 
> 
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[ubuntu-art] Drive-harddisk Icon

[Merk]

What happened with icons for hard drives?
I see it mentioned here:
http://www.nabble.com/-Breathe--drive-removable-media-drive-harddisk-to22475404.html#a22475404
but don't see it here:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions#Status

I had a rather unorthodox idea for drives, where it was a collection of the
folder icons together, perhaps in a  drawer.  I don't like the idea of the
icon being a drive because it gives the impression that different
partitions, are different physical drives, which may or may not be the case.
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