Re: [ubuntu-art] DejaVu fonts, why are they not the default font?
On Thu, 2006-12-21 at 06:17 -0600, Travis Watkins wrote: On 12/21/06, Alexander van Loon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In April and May 2006 there was some discussion on this list about the fonts used in Ubuntu. Currently the DejaVu fonts are already being shipped with Ubuntu, but why are they not yet the default fonts? DejaVu covers a greater range of Unicode than the other fonts, so why not make DejaVu the default font? That would also allow Ubuntu to stop shipping so many different fonts, why have 10+ different fonts which look more or less the same if there is one font which is the best choice? http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=334758 I commented on that bug and asked for information. It seems that the bug is a Pango bug, not a DejaVu bug, and that DejaVu has worked around the bug. Currently when using DejaVu from Ubuntu's repo on Edgy, the bug does not show up. Now that this bug is ruled out, are there other reasons for not adopting DejaVu as the default font in Ubuntu yet? -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] DejaVu fonts, why are they not the default font?
On 1/3/07, Alexander van Loon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I commented on that bug and asked for information. It seems that the bug is a Pango bug, not a DejaVu bug, and that DejaVu has worked around the bug. Currently when using DejaVu from Ubuntu's repo on Edgy, the bug does not show up. Now that this bug is ruled out, are there other reasons for not adopting DejaVu as the default font in Ubuntu yet? That specific bug wasn't the problem, read the whole discussion. From Behdad in that discussion: All Microsoft fonts with Arabic glyphs are absolutely ugly for Persian, the Arabic glyphs in DejaVu will definitely be ugly for Persian too, for a very simple reason: Arabic fonts are ugly for Persian speakers. Persian simply prefer other styles. Persian fonts and Arabic fonts are not suitable for Urdu. And these three languages share the same script, aka the Arabic script. So, no matter how much effort you put into making the Arabic glyphs in DejaVu perfect, it will be: 1) Not needed for 5 billion of people in the world that don't know Arabic, you are just making a lean Latin font, a huge pig now. 2) Unusable for Persian and Urdu speakers, a good few hundred millions, and they cannot easily use DejaVu with their favorite Persian/Urdu font anymore. 3) Not necessarily the style they want to use with their DejaVu font for those who actually are Arabic speakers, and again, you have made it harder for them to choose which font to use for which script. -- Travis Watkins http://www.realistanew.com -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] DejaVu fonts, why are they not the default font?
In April and May 2006 there was some discussion on this list about the fonts used in Ubuntu. Currently the DejaVu fonts are already being shipped with Ubuntu, but why are they not yet the default fonts? DejaVu covers a greater range of Unicode than the other fonts, so why not make DejaVu the default font? That would also allow Ubuntu to stop shipping so many different fonts, why have 10+ different fonts which look more or less the same if there is one font which is the best choice? -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] DejaVu fonts, why are they not the default font?
On 12/21/06, Alexander van Loon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In April and May 2006 there was some discussion on this list about the fonts used in Ubuntu. Currently the DejaVu fonts are already being shipped with Ubuntu, but why are they not yet the default fonts? DejaVu covers a greater range of Unicode than the other fonts, so why not make DejaVu the default font? That would also allow Ubuntu to stop shipping so many different fonts, why have 10+ different fonts which look more or less the same if there is one font which is the best choice? http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=334758 -- Travis Watkins http://www.realistanew.com -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
