Re: [ubuntu-art] Ideas
We really need to use either the Discovery icon theme, or create a new one. The default icons are getting old, and will(hopefully) look very outdated in Intrepid. On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 2:22 PM, Julian Oliver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ..on or around Sun, May 04, 2008 at 08:29:02PM -0500, Michael McKinley > said: > > On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Cory K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Peter Mayhew wrote: > > > > > > > > Another part of the idea of Humanness is that Ubuntu should work on > as > > > > many computers as possible. Compiz, blending, and other discussed > > > > require specific graphics cards or use too much processing power to > be > > > > practical on many computers; these should be incorporated when they > > > > have been made as efficient as possible and when the graphics > required > > > > are the minimum available, not an arbitrary level that too many > people > > > > fail to meet. > > > > > > > > > > No. Let XFCE and Open/Flux/Blackbox worry about these people. > > > > I agree completely. I know that most of this wasn't directed towards > > me, but I just want to clarify my position. I'm all for taking full > > advantage of Compiz and the like to make Ubuntu as elegant as > > possible. My only concern with the completely borderless windows was > > that it might not degrade gracefully. > > i think it'll be fine as long as the borders are a couple of pixels. i > have been using 'borderless' (1px borders) windows for a couple of years > on my WM of choice (http://dwm.suckless.org) and do not struggle at all > with the visual definition between windows. the fact of window contents > being different from client to client helps delimit windows more than is > anticipated also. > > to assist the eye further however we could scale the border colour > depending on the position of the x client in the stack z-order: the > lightest border would be for clients in a position deepest in the stack. > for continuity, the client on top of the stack could have borders the > same colour as that of the panel. > > cheers, > > -- > julian oliver > http://julianoliver.com > http://selectparks.net > messages containing HTML will not be read. > > -- > ubuntu-art mailing list > ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art > -- Sincerely Yours Nicholas Ipsen -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Ideas
..on or around Sun, May 04, 2008 at 08:29:02PM -0500, Michael McKinley said: > On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Cory K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Peter Mayhew wrote: > > > > > > Another part of the idea of Humanness is that Ubuntu should work on as > > > many computers as possible. Compiz, blending, and other discussed > > > require specific graphics cards or use too much processing power to be > > > practical on many computers; these should be incorporated when they > > > have been made as efficient as possible and when the graphics required > > > are the minimum available, not an arbitrary level that too many people > > > fail to meet. > > > > > > > No. Let XFCE and Open/Flux/Blackbox worry about these people. > > I agree completely. I know that most of this wasn't directed towards > me, but I just want to clarify my position. I'm all for taking full > advantage of Compiz and the like to make Ubuntu as elegant as > possible. My only concern with the completely borderless windows was > that it might not degrade gracefully. i think it'll be fine as long as the borders are a couple of pixels. i have been using 'borderless' (1px borders) windows for a couple of years on my WM of choice (http://dwm.suckless.org) and do not struggle at all with the visual definition between windows. the fact of window contents being different from client to client helps delimit windows more than is anticipated also. to assist the eye further however we could scale the border colour depending on the position of the x client in the stack z-order: the lightest border would be for clients in a position deepest in the stack. for continuity, the client on top of the stack could have borders the same colour as that of the panel. cheers, -- julian oliver http://julianoliver.com http://selectparks.net messages containing HTML will not be read. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Ideas
On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Cory K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Peter Mayhew wrote: > > > > Another part of the idea of Humanness is that Ubuntu should work on as > > many computers as possible. Compiz, blending, and other discussed > > require specific graphics cards or use too much processing power to be > > practical on many computers; these should be incorporated when they > > have been made as efficient as possible and when the graphics required > > are the minimum available, not an arbitrary level that too many people > > fail to meet. > > > > No. Let XFCE and Open/Flux/Blackbox worry about these people. I agree completely. I know that most of this wasn't directed towards me, but I just want to clarify my position. I'm all for taking full advantage of Compiz and the like to make Ubuntu as elegant as possible. My only concern with the completely borderless windows was that it might not degrade gracefully. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Ideas
Peter Mayhew wrote: > > Another part of the idea of Humanness is that Ubuntu should work on as > many computers as possible. Compiz, blending, and other discussed > require specific graphics cards or use too much processing power to be > practical on many computers; these should be incorporated when they > have been made as efficient as possible and when the graphics required > are the minimum available, not an arbitrary level that too many people > fail to meet. > No. Let XFCE and Open/Flux/Blackbox worry about these people. This mentality of constantly catering to the lowest common denominator has to stop. _Nothing_ like we can do currently requires anything like Vista HW but I can run Compiz just fine on a EEEPC for instance. Which is in no way a beast but works great. If we keep targeting computers from 10 years ago we'll constantly be behind. -Cory \m/ PS: Note this is an opinion and I expect this thread to get more traffic than threads about actual work. Prove me wrong. Let it go a couple of posts then let it die. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Ideas
Michael McKinley wrote: > On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 5:51 AM, José Luis Ricón <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> IMHO, Intrepid theme should have: >> 1.Borderless windows >> 2.Integrated window decorator(MacOSX style/KDE 4) >> 3. New Wave style menus,they look k00l. >> 4. A new style of buttons. >> >> >> ;:) >> > > I'm not a huge fan of *completely* borderless windows. While it works > fine when the windows have shadows, on computers that don't support > Compiz, it can be hard to tell where the windows start and end. I do > like the idea of the integrated window decorator. One thing that I > would add to your list is monochromatic notification area icons. It > looks elegant, and is one of the things that really caught be eye in > mockups like New Wave and Union. > > I'm not exactly sure what you mean by the New Wave-style menus. If > you mean that the highlight/selection effect in the menubar blends > into the menu itself, then I like it too. Otherwise, could you please > clarify? > He means that one: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/NewWave which has monochromatic notification area icons! Cheers, François -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Ideas
Another part of the idea of Humanness is that Ubuntu should work on as many computers as possible. Compiz, blending, and other discussed require specific graphics cards or use too much processing power to be practical on many computers; these should be incorporated when they have been made as efficient as possible and when the graphics required are the minimum available, not an arbitrary level that too many people fail to meet. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Ideas
On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 5:51 AM, José Luis Ricón <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > IMHO, Intrepid theme should have: > 1.Borderless windows > 2.Integrated window decorator(MacOSX style/KDE 4) > 3. New Wave style menus,they look k00l. > 4. A new style of buttons. > > > ;:) I'm not a huge fan of *completely* borderless windows. While it works fine when the windows have shadows, on computers that don't support Compiz, it can be hard to tell where the windows start and end. I do like the idea of the integrated window decorator. One thing that I would add to your list is monochromatic notification area icons. It looks elegant, and is one of the things that really caught be eye in mockups like New Wave and Union. I'm not exactly sure what you mean by the New Wave-style menus. If you mean that the highlight/selection effect in the menubar blends into the menu itself, then I like it too. Otherwise, could you please clarify? -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Ideas
IMHO, Intrepid theme should have: 1.Borderless windows 2.Integrated window decorator(MacOSX style/KDE 4) 3. New Wave style menus,they look k00l. 4. A new style of buttons. ;:) -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Ideas Header and Title Font Issues
Hi! Working on a design for the Ideas Brainstorming website header, I found that the Ubuntu Title ttf doesn't match the letters in the official logo SVG. It's not a bit different, but rather much. So I think use of that font should be discouraged, especially for the word ubuntu. The letters in the logo SVG have more nodes than necessary. The "b" is really bad. Well, see it on http://thorwil.wordpress.com/2008/01/20/ubuntu-ideas-header/ I think with a good scan of the original artwork, I could trace the logo letters in a much cleaner way. -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] ideas for kubuntu edgy...glass effects, colors, textures, etc.
Hi all, As expected, several people have asked for the SVGs :-) http://bootsplash.org/kdm-edgy.svg http://bootsplash.org/kdm-edgy1.svg http://bootsplash.org/edgy3a.svg Have fun! Bye, Ken On Jul 11, 2006, at 12:03 AM, Kenneth Wimer wrote: Hi all, I thought I might spur some creativity by posting some of the ideas I have played around with for kubuntu. Of course, all of these are SVGs, so if anyone wants to have those files as well, let me know. http://bootsplash.org/kdm-edgy.png ideas http://bootsplash.org/kdm-edgy1.png Work on the black version http://bootsplash.org/edgy3a.png An idea for a Bg for kdm, desktop splash, etc. As can be seen I have tried the ideas of a strong glass effect, so stick with the crystal theme, which is what we have, like it or not, for kde3. In addition I have used the color purple a lot - I seriously think we should go in this direction, color-wise. In addition, I used a camera pic for the bg of the login manager which is a neat idea, I think - not necessarily that pic, but something interesting and purple :-) Last but not least, I tried to use the world map texture in a first attempt at a kdm bg. I think this is nice as it supports the idea of linux for the whole world, etc. I am going to play around with making a normal desktop bg out of the world map idea as well. If we can nail things down a bit, I'll start a wiki page (urg, me no like wiki editing) :-) Bye, Ken -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] ideas for kubuntu edgy...glass effects, colors, textures, etc.
On Tue, 2006-07-11 at 00:11 +0200, Kenneth Wimer wrote: > http://bootsplash.org/snapshot3.png my current KDE desktop > > > > > I thought I might spur some creativity by posting some of the ideas > > I have played around with for kubuntu. Of course, all of these are > > SVGs, so if anyone wants to have those files as well, let me know. > > > > http://bootsplash.org/kdm-edgy.png ideas > > http://bootsplash.org/kdm-edgy1.png Work on the black version > > http://bootsplash.org/edgy3a.png An idea for a Bg for kdm, > > desktop splash, etc. > > Ken, those look superb. If you wouldn't mind, I'd love to see your svgs... I'm trying to learn how to do the glass effect and would enjoy seeing how you do it. I like your map idea for a background. Admittedly, it looks very KDEish, and I don't think it would fit well for gnome (not that it matters to you), but the concept is stellar, not only in artistic quality, but also in the concept. By the way, I had a heck of a time seeing your designs. Your host's first two DNS servers wouldn't answer for me. Name Server:NS1.WEBHOSTING-FRANKEN.DE Name Server:NS2.WEBHOSTING-FRANKEN.DE Name Server:SNS.WEBHOSTING-FRANKEN.DE Finally the third one resolved so I put your IP address in my hosts file. 213.239.206.5 bootsplash.org -- Matthew Nuzum newz2000 on freenode -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] ideas for kubuntu edgy...glass effects, colors, textures, etc.
On Tue, 2006-11-07 at 00:03 +0200, Kenneth Wimer wrote: > http://bootsplash.org/kdm-edgy.pngideas > http://bootsplash.org/kdm-edgy1.png Work on the black version > http://bootsplash.org/edgy3a.png An idea for a Bg for kdm, > desktop > splash, etc. The third element of the world feels out of place in the context of your original two. Macro photography absolutely looks top notch for professional desktops etc. Have you tried any magnification diopters? Do you have any loose sketches of your ideas for the logon splash etc incorporating something akin to what you have here? I would like to get a better feel looking at all four targets on the same page... Sincerely, TJS signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] ideas for kubuntu edgy...glass effects, colors, textures, etc.
Hi Klaus,On Jul 11, 2006, at 12:22 AM, Klaus Bitto wrote:http://bootsplash.org/kdm-edgy.png ideas http://bootsplash.org/kdm-edgy1.png Work on the black versionhttp://bootsplash.org/edgy3a.png An idea for a Bg for kdm, desktop splash, etc.Although the black one doesn't work that well for me (it doesn't look as glossy and noble like these famous weather widgets and stuff), greying out the light-heart flower theme, I love the white one! Really glassy and white.I was wondering which one people would like more.But... doesn't it look a bit too Vista-y? (http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/presskits/windowsvista/images/image001.jpg ) I think, linux desktops should go their own way and evolve in distinct styles, more than too obviously taking ideas from other UIs. Even if they are shiny ;)Boah, amazing. As a pure mac user (4 ppc's at home) I honestly never look at Windows stuff. Not sure what to say about that, it was definitely not intentional. It does have a similar feeling though, I must admit.Bye,Ken-- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] ideas for kubuntu edgy...glass effects, colors, textures, etc.
http://bootsplash.org/kdm-edgy.png ideas http://bootsplash.org/kdm-edgy1.png Work on the black versionhttp://bootsplash.org/edgy3a.png An idea for a Bg for kdm, desktop splash, etc.Although the black one doesn't work that well for me (it doesn't look as glossy and noble like these famous weather widgets and stuff), greying out the light-heart flower theme, I love the white one! Really glassy and white.But... doesn't it look a bit too Vista-y? (http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/presskits/windowsvista/images/image001.jpg ) I think, linux desktops should go their own way and evolve in distinct styles, more than too obviously taking ideas from other UIs. Even if they are shiny ;) -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] ideas for kubuntu edgy...glass effects, colors, textures, etc.
Hi, I forgot one link: http://bootsplash.org/snapshot3.png my current KDE desktop This shows the color scheme and new gradients for the window decorations. The buttons still need serious work. Bye, Ken On Jul 11, 2006, at 12:03 AM, Kenneth Wimer wrote: Hi all, I thought I might spur some creativity by posting some of the ideas I have played around with for kubuntu. Of course, all of these are SVGs, so if anyone wants to have those files as well, let me know. http://bootsplash.org/kdm-edgy.png ideas http://bootsplash.org/kdm-edgy1.png Work on the black version http://bootsplash.org/edgy3a.png An idea for a Bg for kdm, desktop splash, etc. As can be seen I have tried the ideas of a strong glass effect, so stick with the crystal theme, which is what we have, like it or not, for kde3. In addition I have used the color purple a lot - I seriously think we should go in this direction, color-wise. In addition, I used a camera pic for the bg of the login manager which is a neat idea, I think - not necessarily that pic, but something interesting and purple :-) Last but not least, I tried to use the world map texture in a first attempt at a kdm bg. I think this is nice as it supports the idea of linux for the whole world, etc. I am going to play around with making a normal desktop bg out of the world map idea as well. If we can nail things down a bit, I'll start a wiki page (urg, me no like wiki editing) :-) Bye, Ken -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] ideas for kubuntu edgy...glass effects, colors, textures, etc.
Hi all, I thought I might spur some creativity by posting some of the ideas I have played around with for kubuntu. Of course, all of these are SVGs, so if anyone wants to have those files as well, let me know. http://bootsplash.org/kdm-edgy.png ideas http://bootsplash.org/kdm-edgy1.png Work on the black version http://bootsplash.org/edgy3a.png An idea for a Bg for kdm, desktop splash, etc. As can be seen I have tried the ideas of a strong glass effect, so stick with the crystal theme, which is what we have, like it or not, for kde3. In addition I have used the color purple a lot - I seriously think we should go in this direction, color-wise. In addition, I used a camera pic for the bg of the login manager which is a neat idea, I think - not necessarily that pic, but something interesting and purple :-) Last but not least, I tried to use the world map texture in a first attempt at a kdm bg. I think this is nice as it supports the idea of linux for the whole world, etc. I am going to play around with making a normal desktop bg out of the world map idea as well. If we can nail things down a bit, I'll start a wiki page (urg, me no like wiki editing) :-) Bye, Ken -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
