Re: [ubuntu-art] Kubuntu.org look - really not a feast for the eyes
On 7/2/06, Martin B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As for the articles contained therein: I think that the content is not really in our hands, nor should it be (or we'd call this list something other than -artwork) :-) I think the articles should be made by the doc team hand in hand with the artwork team. Web pages are not documentation, the visual appearance is as important as the content (IMO). Furthermore, the visual style and content cannot be made separately, because it complements one another (at least here, in a visual presentation of a product). I've noticed that there is a product on launchpad (recently added apparently) called Kubuntu-website. You can find it here: https://launchpad.net/products/kubuntu-website I've talked to Riddell and we agreed to set the contact for the bug reports to be the ubuntu-website team, found here: https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-website That means bugs filled against the ubuntu or kubuntu websites will notify people who are part of that team. We're not quite ready yet to redesign the websites, but there are tasks available. And I'd expect that as we get organized more stuff will appear there. This also means that if you see something on the website that needs addressed, the bug tracker for ubuntu or kubutu website is an excellent place to file it. Oh, by the way, I've recently started working on the Canonical team as the ubuntu (et al) webmaster. If you'd like to contact me I'm on freenode as newz2000. -- Matthew Nuzum www.bearfruit.org newz2000 on freenode -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Kubuntu.org look - really not a feast for the eyes
Hello everyone,I am not very happy with the appearance of http://www.kubuntu.org/ , especially comparing it to ubuntu.com. The main page is filled (flooded) with recent news (that aren't any good for new users), other pages are mostly text-heavy and without images. The page is very amateur-looking and confusing, especially for newcomers. (all IMO) I almost envy the nice and comprehensible appearance of ubuntu.com (and even those pages were discussed here, AFAIK). I think a lot more images and explaining screenshots should be put in kubuntu.org + more information for newcomers on the main page.What do you think? Is the pag good- or bad-looking? What improvements do you suggest?And who is responsible for the kubuntu.org look?Martin Böhm -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Kubuntu.org look - really not a feast for the eyes
Hi Martin, On Jul 2, 2006, at 10:02 PM, Martin B. wrote:Hello everyone,I am not very happy with the appearance of http://www.kubuntu.org/ , especially comparing it to ubuntu.com. The main page is filled (flooded) with recent news (that aren't any good for new users), other pages are mostly text-heavy and without images. The page is very amateur-looking and confusing, especially for newcomers. (all IMO) I almost envy the nice and comprehensible appearance of ubuntu.com (and even those pages were discussed here, AFAIK). I think a lot more images and explaining screenshots should be put in kubuntu.org + more information for newcomers on the main page.What do you think? Is the pag good- or bad-looking? What improvements do you suggest?And who is responsible for the kubuntu.org look?That would be me. The current design is something that I started and went into community hands...a few artists changed it and it was included. Note that the HTML behind the design cannot be changed. It is, afaik based exactly on the Ubuntu design so changing it is not a possibility, on the pics it uses now can be altered to fit the HTML implementation.I agree that there is room for improvement. While this is a side-track to edgy (ie. not concerned with the release...yet) if anyone has any nice design improvements, post them on this list and we can discuss them.As for the articles contained therein: I think that the content is not really in our hands, nor should it be (or we'd call this list something other than -artwork) :-)The important message that the artwork should imply is "KDE for Ubuntu" (as compared to "Ubuntu with KDE"). It is a small matter of semantics, but can mean a world of difference artistically.Bye,Ken-- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Kubuntu.org look - really not a feast for the eyes
Hi Martin, We are talking around each other and actually agree, let me explain what I meant. On Jul 2, 2006, at 11:22 PM, Martin B. wrote: As for the articles contained therein: I think that the content is not really in our hands, nor should it be (or we'd call this list something other than -artwork) :-) I think the articles should be made by the doc team hand in hand with the artwork team. Web pages are not documentation, the visual appearance is as important as the content (IMO). Furthermore, the visual style and content cannot be made separately, because it complements one another (at least here, in a visual presentation of a product). The text in the articles, and the selection of articles is up to a different team. The design and layout of those articles is certainly our business. Specific things that come to my mind when I look at the page: If I compare ubuntu,kubuntu,edubuntu and xubuntu web pages, xu,edu and ubuntu pages have a main page fully for the introduction to the distribution. Xu, edu and ubuntu do all have a Related projects box. Kubuntu does not. (OK, that's more about the content of the page.) Actually, I think that if anyone made it to this website, they have at least some inkling of what to expect. Having current items displayed shows, in my eyes, that things are moving right along. I do agree that a related projects box would be good though. The konqis image is in my opinion completely redundant. It looks more like an image from a fairy tale, not from a professional Linux distribution. Maybe a screenshot on the main page would be more informative? 100% I think the titles and all font sizes could be adjusted to make the page more structrured. The number of visual elements is very small ( no coloured wrappers for content, titles as images etc.) , the white space looks more empty to me. Definitely. Martin Sorry for the misunderstanding. Bye, Ken -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
