Re: [ubuntu-art] New icon needed: Software Updater

[Matthew Paul Thomas]

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Bruno wrote on 31/01/13 12:52:
> ...
> 
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Matthew Paul Thomas
> 
> ...
>> It's quite a lot taller than wide. I wonder if that's a problem 
>> at typical sizes. For example, what would it look like in the 
>> Launcher?
> ...
> 
> well: two options ( see screenshots )

Yes, that's quite muddy unfortunately. Very difficult to tell that the
orange blobs are the Ubuntu logo.

Fixing that might involve using a single unbroken box, and/or making
the box larger.

Another small issue is that the red of the parachute competes with the
orange of the logo.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] New icon needed: Software Updater

[Ryan Prior]

I really love the idea of "unwrapping" for new releases (of either the
whole distribution or a new major release of a given app.) It's like
unwrapping a present. It doens't make much sense if you're just installing
a bugfix in glib and some updated ALSA support tho. I think the update icon
should say something about maintenance - perhaps let's look to the
iconography of the auto-repair industry, which has trained many people to
regularly tune-up their cars, just as we want to train people to apply
updates regularly.


On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 12:33 PM, Sam  wrote:

> Been fiddling with this for a few days, so I figured I should share. It's
> kind of similar to the Ubuntu One logo. I'll make the SVG available if
> there is an interest.
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Re: [ubuntu-art] New icon needed: Software Updater

[Sam]

Been fiddling with this for a few days, so I figured I should share. It's  
kind of similar to the Ubuntu One logo. I'll make the SVG available if  
there is an interest.


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Re: [ubuntu-art] New icon needed: Software Updater

[Matthew Paul Thomas]

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Hi Bruno

Bruno Alacoque wrote on 24/01/13 13:42:
> 
> Please find my two cents as a tetris airdrop ;) hope you guys like
> it
> 
> http://www.energumene.com/ubundrop2.png ( 500px ) 
> http://www.energumene.com/ubundrop3.png ( 100px)
> 
> ...

That looks pretty cool!

It's quite a lot taller than wide. I wonder if that's a problem at
typical sizes. For example, what would it look like in the Launcher?

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Re: [ubuntu-art] New icon needed: Software Updater

[Matthew Paul Thomas]

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Krzysztof Węgliński wrote on 23/01/13 19:46:
> 
> How about something like this? ubuntupackage.jpg (35 KB)
> 
> ...

I like how that suggests the presence of a parachute without actually
showing it. Clever.

The style is a bit unusual. Most icons in Ubuntu are drawn as objects
with hyper-realistic shading and outlines, and no backdrop of their
own. Even Ubuntu One, which is a solid flat logo in print and on the
Web, has subtle lighting and shadows when drawn as an icon. So an icon
like yours, with flat and nearly-flat shapes and a circular backdrop,
would be a bit incongruous.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] New icon idea for update manager

[brent wakey]

On 28/01/2013 3:37 AM, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote:

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brent wakey wrote on 26/01/13 04:42:

For future consideration, an icon idea for the update manager. thx
Brent

I don't know of any software available for Ubuntu that can open
Paint.NET files. Could you use a more standard format, e.g. SVG or PNG?

Thanks
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Sorry my bad,I have corrected the oversite and a few Ideas have been 
posted on Imgur *http://bladedknight.imgur.com

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Re: [ubuntu-art] New icon needed: Software Updater

[Prateek Jadhwani]

Well now is the era of minimalistic designs. I have an idea but it will
take me a while to draw it.
So try to keep everything minimalistic.
On Jan 23, 2013 11:47 AM, "Krzysztof Węgliński" 
wrote:

> How about something like this? ubuntupackage.jpg (35 
> KB)
>
>
> 2013/1/23 Krzysztof Węgliński 
>
>> Airdrop idea rox. We should go this way. Imho those + or arrows are too
>> usedup by others.
>> I'll make some projects when i get home, which is about 3hours.
>>
>> Matthew Paul Thomas  napisał(a):
>>
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>> >
>> >Hi folks
>> >
>> >We have a usability problem in Software Updater (formerly known as
>> >Update Manager).
>> >
>> >The problem is that when the updates dialog appears by itself, there's
>> >no visual clue that this is an official Ubuntu thing. In Ubuntu 12.10
>> >and earlier, the icon is just a brown box with an orange arrow. And in
>> >Raring right now, it's an "A" with a progress bar and arrows around it
>> >- -- again, nothing obviously to do with Ubuntu, and a bit of a non
>> >sequitur too.
>> >
>> >So, it would help if we had a new icon, one which obviously
>> >communicates that these are official updates for Ubuntu.
>> >
>> >One possibility that I've suggested is an airdrop -- a wooden box
>> >being lowered by parachute, where either the box or the parachute (but
>> >not both!) features the Ubuntu logo.
>> > Maybe you have other
>> >ideas too.
>> >
>> >Please post your proposals here, or DeviantArt, or Imgur, or wherever
>> >suits you, and link to them in a reply here.
>> >
>> >Let's get something really classy into Ubuntu 13.04.
>> >
>> >Thanks!
>> >
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Re: [ubuntu-art] New icon idea for update manager

[Matthew Paul Thomas]

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brent wakey wrote on 26/01/13 04:42:
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> For future consideration, an icon idea for the update manager. thx 
> Brent

I don't know of any software available for Ubuntu that can open
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Re: [ubuntu-art] New icon needed: Software Updater

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Hey Vish

Vish wrote on 24/01/13 10:42:
> ...
> 
> While the idea of an airdrop/parachute is nice, as someone else
> also pointed out, people are more used to the arrows and it is
> easier to use that "known metaphor" for updates to make it easier
> for people to recognise "updates".

It may be true that people are more used to arrows. I have nothing
against using arrows. But that doesn't mean it's the only "known
metaphor".

For example, most often when people install software updates anywhere,
they're doing it on Windows. Windows doesn't use arrows for its
updates icon.

> Since updates are something that need to be a part of Software
> centre, it is better to have a Software Updater icon that is a
> derivative of the original Software centre icon rather than making
> it look like a completely different/unrelated app.

If anyone ever implements updates in USC, it will be one way of
installing application updates. It will not be the only way to install
any updates. 

Besides that, installing updates has nothing to do with shopping. So a
Software Updater icon that looked related to shopping would have a
non-sequitur problem like the current icon.

Your proposal is extremely well drawn (nice job!), but unfortunately
it has all three problems. It still has the "A", it still has the fake
progress bar, and it looks like shopping too. :-)

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Re: [ubuntu-art] New icon needed: Software Updater

[Bruno Alacoque]

Please find my two cents as a tetris airdrop ;)
hope you guys like it

http://www.energumene.com/ubundrop2.png ( 500px )
http://www.energumene.com/ubundrop3.png ( 100px)

[[ Matthew Paul Thomas ]] @ [[ 23/01/2013 11:58 
]]--
> Hi folks
>
> We have a usability problem in Software Updater (formerly known as
> Update Manager).
>
> The problem is that when the updates dialog appears by itself, there's
> no visual clue that this is an official Ubuntu thing. In Ubuntu 12.10
> and earlier, the icon is just a brown box with an orange arrow. And in
> Raring right now, it's an "A" with a progress bar and arrows around it
> -- again, nothing obviously to do with Ubuntu, and a bit of a non
> sequitur too.
>
> So, it would help if we had a new icon, one which obviously
> communicates that these are official updates for Ubuntu.
>
> One possibility that I've suggested is an airdrop -- a wooden box
> being lowered by parachute, where either the box or the parachute (but
> not both!) features the Ubuntu logo.
>  Maybe you have other
> ideas too.
>
> Please post your proposals here, or DeviantArt, or Imgur, or wherever
> suits you, and link to them in a reply here.
>
> Let's get something really classy into Ubuntu 13.04.
>
> Thanks!
>
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[ubuntu-art] New icon needed: Software Updater

[Ilya Crols]

 I'm not an artist, so the best thing I can do is send in some concept art.
 
http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/024/d/8/ubuntu_update_logo_by_idanwin-d5sj7zg.jpg
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Re: [ubuntu-art] New icon needed: Software Updater

[Vish]

  
  
On 01/23/2013 05:58 AM, Matthew Paul
  Thomas wrote:


  
Hi folks

We have a usability problem in Software Updater (formerly known as
Update Manager).

The problem is that when the updates dialog appears by itself, there's
no visual clue that this is an official Ubuntu thing. In Ubuntu 12.10
and earlier, the icon is just a brown box with an orange arrow. And in
Raring right now, it's an "A" with a progress bar and arrows around it
- -- again, nothing obviously to do with Ubuntu, and a bit of a non
sequitur too.

So, it would help if we had a new icon, one which obviously
communicates that these are official updates for Ubuntu.

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Hi Matthew,

While the idea of an airdrop/parachute is nice, as someone else also
pointed out, people are more used to the arrows and it is easier to
use that "known metaphor" for updates to make it easier for people
to recognise "updates".
Since updates are something that need to be a part of Software
centre, it is better to have a Software Updater icon that is a
derivative of the original Software centre icon rather than making
it look like a completely different/unrelated app.

Here is my take on the Software Updater. I have only done the 48px
and 128px icons. And this metaphor is scalable for all sizes, right
down to 16px. The black color for the bag is something I used to
make the bag distinguishably different from the SC icon while
maintaining the contrast for the silver arrows and the orange for
"Ubuntu". 

Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-art] New icon needed: Software Updater

[Wouter Vandenneucker]

I really like that idea Krzysztof!

+1 for the parachute.
Though I'd try making it look a little bolder..

Kudos


Wouter

2013/1/24 Patrick Karuri 

>
>
> On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 10:46 PM, Krzysztof Węgliński <
> krzys...@sth-group.pl> wrote:
>
>> How about something like this? ubuntupackage.jpg (35 
>> KB)
>>
>>
>> 2013/1/23 Krzysztof Węgliński 
>>
>>> Airdrop idea rox. We should go this way. Imho those + or arrows are too
>>> usedup by others.
>>> I'll make some projects when i get home, which is about 3hours.
>>>
>>> Matthew Paul Thomas  napisał(a):
>>>
>>> >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>>> >Hash: SHA1
>>> >
>>> >Hi folks
>>> >
>>> >We have a usability problem in Software Updater (formerly known as
>>> >Update Manager).
>>> >
>>> >The problem is that when the updates dialog appears by itself, there's
>>> >no visual clue that this is an official Ubuntu thing. In Ubuntu 12.10
>>> >and earlier, the icon is just a brown box with an orange arrow. And in
>>> >Raring right now, it's an "A" with a progress bar and arrows around it
>>> >- -- again, nothing obviously to do with Ubuntu, and a bit of a non
>>> >sequitur too.
>>> >
>>> >So, it would help if we had a new icon, one which obviously
>>> >communicates that these are official updates for Ubuntu.
>>> >
>>> >One possibility that I've suggested is an airdrop -- a wooden box
>>> >being lowered by parachute, where either the box or the parachute (but
>>> >not both!) features the Ubuntu logo.
>>> > Maybe you have other
>>> >ideas too.
>>> >
>>> >Please post your proposals here, or DeviantArt, or Imgur, or wherever
>>> >suits you, and link to them in a reply here.
>>> >
>>> >Let's get something really classy into Ubuntu 13.04.
>>> >
>>> >Thanks!
>>> >
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Re: [ubuntu-art] New icon needed: Software Updater

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On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 10:46 PM, Krzysztof Węgliński  wrote:

> How about something like this? ubuntupackage.jpg (35 
> KB)
>
>
> 2013/1/23 Krzysztof Węgliński 
>
>> Airdrop idea rox. We should go this way. Imho those + or arrows are too
>> usedup by others.
>> I'll make some projects when i get home, which is about 3hours.
>>
>> Matthew Paul Thomas  napisał(a):
>>
>> >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>> >Hash: SHA1
>> >
>> >Hi folks
>> >
>> >We have a usability problem in Software Updater (formerly known as
>> >Update Manager).
>> >
>> >The problem is that when the updates dialog appears by itself, there's
>> >no visual clue that this is an official Ubuntu thing. In Ubuntu 12.10
>> >and earlier, the icon is just a brown box with an orange arrow. And in
>> >Raring right now, it's an "A" with a progress bar and arrows around it
>> >- -- again, nothing obviously to do with Ubuntu, and a bit of a non
>> >sequitur too.
>> >
>> >So, it would help if we had a new icon, one which obviously
>> >communicates that these are official updates for Ubuntu.
>> >
>> >One possibility that I've suggested is an airdrop -- a wooden box
>> >being lowered by parachute, where either the box or the parachute (but
>> >not both!) features the Ubuntu logo.
>> > Maybe you have other
>> >ideas too.
>> >
>> >Please post your proposals here, or DeviantArt, or Imgur, or wherever
>> >suits you, and link to them in a reply here.
>> >
>> >Let's get something really classy into Ubuntu 13.04.
>> >
>> >Thanks!
>> >
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Re: [ubuntu-art] New icon needed: Software Updater

[Krzysztof Węgliński]

How about something like this? ubuntupackage.jpg (35
KB)


2013/1/23 Krzysztof Węgliński 

> Airdrop idea rox. We should go this way. Imho those + or arrows are too
> usedup by others.
> I'll make some projects when i get home, which is about 3hours.
>
> Matthew Paul Thomas  napisał(a):
>
> >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> >Hash: SHA1
> >
> >Hi folks
> >
> >We have a usability problem in Software Updater (formerly known as
> >Update Manager).
> >
> >The problem is that when the updates dialog appears by itself, there's
> >no visual clue that this is an official Ubuntu thing. In Ubuntu 12.10
> >and earlier, the icon is just a brown box with an orange arrow. And in
> >Raring right now, it's an "A" with a progress bar and arrows around it
> >- -- again, nothing obviously to do with Ubuntu, and a bit of a non
> >sequitur too.
> >
> >So, it would help if we had a new icon, one which obviously
> >communicates that these are official updates for Ubuntu.
> >
> >One possibility that I've suggested is an airdrop -- a wooden box
> >being lowered by parachute, where either the box or the parachute (but
> >not both!) features the Ubuntu logo.
> > Maybe you have other
> >ideas too.
> >
> >Please post your proposals here, or DeviantArt, or Imgur, or wherever
> >suits you, and link to them in a reply here.
> >
> >Let's get something really classy into Ubuntu 13.04.
> >
> >Thanks!
> >
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Re: [ubuntu-art] New icon needed: Software Updater

[Krzysztof Węgliński]

Airdrop idea rox. We should go this way. Imho those + or arrows are too usedup 
by others.
I'll make some projects when i get home, which is about 3hours.

Matthew Paul Thomas  napisał(a):

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>Update Manager).
>
>The problem is that when the updates dialog appears by itself, there's
>no visual clue that this is an official Ubuntu thing. In Ubuntu 12.10
>and earlier, the icon is just a brown box with an orange arrow. And in
>Raring right now, it's an "A" with a progress bar and arrows around it
>- -- again, nothing obviously to do with Ubuntu, and a bit of a non
>sequitur too.
>
>So, it would help if we had a new icon, one which obviously
>communicates that these are official updates for Ubuntu.
>
>One possibility that I've suggested is an airdrop -- a wooden box
>being lowered by parachute, where either the box or the parachute (but
>not both!) features the Ubuntu logo.
> Maybe you have other
>ideas too.
>
>Please post your proposals here, or DeviantArt, or Imgur, or wherever
>suits you, and link to them in a reply here.
>
>Let's get something really classy into Ubuntu 13.04.
>
>Thanks!
>
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Re: [ubuntu-art] New icon needed: Software Updater

[Carlos]

If you search for "update" in Google Images you get mostly variations of 
spinning arrows. The parachute idea is nice, but maybe it would be 
better to stick to what the user is used to and try to get something 
nice using those arrows.


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[ubuntu-art] New icon needed: Software Updater

[Matthew Paul Thomas]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hi folks

We have a usability problem in Software Updater (formerly known as
Update Manager).

The problem is that when the updates dialog appears by itself, there's
no visual clue that this is an official Ubuntu thing. In Ubuntu 12.10
and earlier, the icon is just a brown box with an orange arrow. And in
Raring right now, it's an "A" with a progress bar and arrows around it
- -- again, nothing obviously to do with Ubuntu, and a bit of a non
sequitur too.

So, it would help if we had a new icon, one which obviously
communicates that these are official updates for Ubuntu.

One possibility that I've suggested is an airdrop -- a wooden box
being lowered by parachute, where either the box or the parachute (but
not both!) features the Ubuntu logo.
 Maybe you have other
ideas too.

Please post your proposals here, or DeviantArt, or Imgur, or wherever
suits you, and link to them in a reply here.

Let's get something really classy into Ubuntu 13.04.

Thanks!

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[ubuntu-art] new launchpad locoteams branding needed

[YoBoY]

Hi everyone and happy new year :)

I just noticed we haven't changed the branding on the locoteams 
launchpad team page (https://launchpad.net/~locoteams). It's not really 
important, but I love having those icons on my launchpad page, and this 
one is old ;)


What we need:
 - an icon 14x14 (<5kb)
 - a logo 64x64 (<50kb)
 - a mugshot 192x192 (<100kb)

The icons appears everywhere in small size, so no text in it. It should 
reflect ubuntu or the community.

The logo appears on the launchpad team page.
The mugshot appears if you display a team members photos where this team is.

The locoteams-approved, and ubuntu-lococouncil can also have some love 
with the branding. :D


So, if some of you can think of this and propose some design to fix 
these icons/logos/mugshots it should be great. (jpg, png, svg are the 
best formats for that)


Thank you.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] new theme

[Ryan Prior]

On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 4:28 PM, Thomas Corwin  wrote:

> Ryan, where would we post hours for an IRC meeting? I am on the same boat
> as Marco and Omar.
>

That's great. To avoid spamming this list with everybody's availability,
I've created a public document that we can all edit.

Take a look here: http://piratepad.net/CnAoqUcfc6
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Re: [ubuntu-art] new theme

[Thomas Corwin]

Ryan, where would we post hours for an IRC meeting? I am on the same boat as 
Marco and Omar. 

Also, just to make sure, the IRC channel is: ubuntu-art correct?

On Jan 5, 2013, at 4:32 PM, "Ryan Prior"  wrote:

>> Canonical's thought-leader and CEO Mark Shuttleworth
> 
> Canonical's CEO is the awesome Jane Silber 
> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Silber). Mark is the former CEO. Please 
> forgive my mistake. :-)
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Re: [ubuntu-art] new theme

[Ryan Prior]

>
> Canonical's thought-leader and CEO Mark Shuttleworth
>

Canonical's CEO is the awesome Jane Silber (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Silber). Mark is the former CEO. Please
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Re: [ubuntu-art] new theme

[Ryan Prior]

On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 11:33 AM, MarcoM  wrote:

> Hi guys, I'm in the same situation of Omar! I would like to be' envolved
> in The community. Let me do something ;)!
>
> Cheers
> Marco
>
> Il giorno 05/gen/2013, alle ore 18:12, Omar Otmane 
> ha scritto:
>
> Hi Guys,
> I really wanna get involved in Ubuntu Community ,, I am a Beginner
> Designer ,, What i can do ?
>
> Hey Marco and Omar, welcome and thanks so much for getting involved.

Recently, Canonical's thought-leader and CEO Mark Shuttleworth posted to
the ubuntu-devel a very nice email that you should read. You can find it
here:
http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2013/01/04/going-mobile-in-2013/

You should read the whole thing, it's not long. But most directly speaking
to your interests, he wrote
"Now is the time to roll up our sleeves and *create*. Think of an app or
system feature that you think is really important to have, apply what we’ve
learned about design thinking and your own imagination to find elegant,
new, fresh ways to deliver that capability, and join us in shaping
something that can take the world by storm. Start at
developer.ubuntu.comand unleash your creativity, rigour and
expertise."

I suggest that you pick an app, think of a way that the app could be
better, and start a discussion about it. You can take a screen shot of the
app and doodle over it with your favorite paint program (Photoshop, The
GIMP, Inkscape, etc) or mock-up a whole new window.

Give us your ideas and questions, and we'll help you refine them and
present them for inclusion in the project.

Since there's so much interest in getting started with Ubuntu Artwork,
maybe we should have a meeting on IRC to introduce ourselves, some Free
Software tools for making Ubuntu Art, and ideas for getting involved.

If you'd be interested in attending an IRC meeting, feel free to post hours
you'd be available and what time zone you're in so we can coordinate.
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Re: [ubuntu-art] new theme

[MarcoM]

Hi guys, I'm in the same situation of Omar! I would like to be' envolved in The 
community. Let me do something ;)!

Cheers
Marco

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Il giorno 05/gen/2013, alle ore 18:12, Omar Otmane  ha 
scritto:

> Hi Guys,
> I really wanna get involved in Ubuntu Community ,, I am a Beginner Designer 
> ,, What i can do ?
> 
> From: dog1...@hotmail.com
> Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2013 11:48:16 -0500
> To: ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] new theme
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Not to get off topic (a lot) but how do you make a theme?
> 
> On Jan 5, 2013, at 11:39 AM, "Ryan Prior"  wrote:
> 
> dear billy,
> 
> yes go ahead.
> 
> 
> On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 9:15 AM, Billy Humphreys  wrote:
> dear mailers
> 
> would we be able to make a theme for all the art we make?
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Re: [ubuntu-art] new theme

[Omar Otmane]

Hi Guys,
I really wanna get involved in Ubuntu Community ,, I am a Beginner Designer ,, 
What i can do ?

From: dog1...@hotmail.com
Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2013 11:48:16 -0500
To: ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] new theme

Hello,
Not to get off topic (a lot) but how do you make a theme?

On Jan 5, 2013, at 11:39 AM, "Ryan Prior"  wrote:

dear billy,

yes go ahead.


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dear mailers



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Re: [ubuntu-art] new theme

[Ryan Prior]

Hello Thomas,

That's not off-topic at all.

The short answer is given here:
http://worldofgnome.org/how-to-theme-gnome-3/

Basically, you download the pieces of the theme you'd like (off of websites
like deviantart and gnome-look, or shared with you via ubuntu-one by
artists, or however you like) and you use a tool like gnome-tweak-tool to
tell your system to use them.

If you want to develop your own original GTK3 theme, there's an overview at
https://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt/Tutorials/GtkThemes

It's technical (requires typing and learning some about how themes work,
not point-and-click) but it's not difficult.

We use CSS for our themes, and there are a ton of CSS tutorials for the web
if you Google for them. However, in our case CSS isn't styling a web page,
it's styling computer program interfaces: so we have some differences
documented in the howto above.

If you want to develop your own original icon theme, there's a detailed
discussion on Ask Ubuntu:
http://askubuntu.com/questions/47643/how-do-i-make-a-theme-from-scratch-for-unity

If you have questions or want help getting started you can ask here or on
other more specific mailing lists like the gnome-themes mailing list
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-themes-list


On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 10:48 AM, Thomas Corwin  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Not to get off topic (a lot) but how do you make a theme?
>
>
> On Jan 5, 2013, at 11:39 AM, "Ryan Prior"  wrote:
>
> dear billy,
>
> yes go ahead.
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 9:15 AM, Billy Humphreys wrote:
>
>> dear mailers
>>
>> would we be able to make a theme for all the art we make?
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Re: [ubuntu-art] new theme

[Thomas Corwin]

Hello,

Not to get off topic (a lot) but how do you make a theme?

On Jan 5, 2013, at 11:39 AM, "Ryan Prior"  wrote:

> dear billy,
> 
> yes go ahead.
> 
> 
> On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 9:15 AM, Billy Humphreys  wrote:
>> dear mailers
>> 
>> would we be able to make a theme for all the art we make?
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Re: [ubuntu-art] new theme

[Ryan Prior]

dear billy,

yes go ahead.


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>
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[ubuntu-art] new theme

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Re: [ubuntu-art] new Ubuntu member freelance professional photographer

[Daniel Pullan]

I am now
On 20 Oct 2012 07:56, "Jason Williams"  wrote:

> *Daniel, you awake ?*
>
>
> On Oct 19, 2012, at 5:40 PM, Daniel Pullan wrote:
>
> I know that feeling too well, thanks.
>
> On 19 October 2012 23:44, Jason Williams  wrote:
>
>> *Sure.  I will email some more pics later tonight cause I'm going to be
>> up late most likely...*
>>
>>
>> On Oct 19, 2012, at 5:36 PM, Daniel Pullan wrote:
>>
>> Hey Jason,
>>
>> You're more then welcome. Is there anyway I can see more of your work?
>>
>> On 19 October 2012 23:39, Jason Williams  wrote:
>>
>>> *Hey Daniel, *
>>> *
>>> *
>>> *Thanks for the advice :)  Much appreciated.  I have many more that I
>>> can choose from adhering to more of the guidelines *
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 19, 2012, at 5:25 PM, Daniel Pullan wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey man, I tried using this as a background and found it didn't quite
>>> fit my screensize. Also, it's quite a busy picture, very attention
>>> grabbing, I'm sure some people will agree it might not be suited to being a
>>> background picture.
>>>
>>> In the ubuntu design guidelines there is:
>>>
>>> "Avoid high frequency images. ( A soft focus is one way to achieve this
>>> )"
>>>
>>> "As the name suggests, visually, it should settle into the “background”
>>> of the activity scene"
>>>
>>> "Your image should strive for subtlety and poetry".
>>>
>>> I don't feel this image adheres to that. Also,
>>>
>>> "The final dimension should be 2560 x 1600 pixels".
>>>
>>> This image is 3648x2736, as you can see the dimension is wrong, I'm sure
>>> this is nothing a well done crop would fix (Gimp works for this).
>>>
>>> Overall, I don't think this picture works, however it's a great first
>>> attempt and I'm sure you can either attempt to fix this image or try using
>>> a different photo you've taken.
>>>
>>> Away from the background side of things, it's a cool picture, I love the
>>> blues of the water, very nice.
>>>
>>> Daniel
>>>
>>> On 19 October 2012 22:58, Jason Williams  wrote:
>>>
 *Hello to the Ubuntu community,*
 *
 *
 *My name is Jason Williams and I am a professional freelance
 photographer and IT security student.  I am new to the community here and
 have already received some helpful advice from others who are also on the
 mailing list.  I wish to share a photograph that I captured while in Neah
 Bay WA over the Summer this year that I would love feed back on and
 possibly a chance for the administrators in the Ubuntu community to approve
 it for usage :).  Please, all members feel free to comment as I welcome it.
  Thank you again for the opportunity to serve and help out in whatever way
 I can in the Ubuntu community.*
 *
 *
 *Sincerely,*
 *Jason Williams*
 *
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>>> dandandrum...@gmail.com *
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Re: [ubuntu-art] new Ubuntu member freelance professional photographer

[Jason Williams]

Daniel, you awake ?


On Oct 19, 2012, at 5:40 PM, Daniel Pullan wrote:

> I know that feeling too well, thanks.
> 
> On 19 October 2012 23:44, Jason Williams  wrote:
> Sure.  I will email some more pics later tonight cause I'm going to be up 
> late most likely...
> 
> 
> On Oct 19, 2012, at 5:36 PM, Daniel Pullan wrote:
> 
>> Hey Jason,
>> 
>> You're more then welcome. Is there anyway I can see more of your work?
>> 
>> On 19 October 2012 23:39, Jason Williams  wrote:
>> Hey Daniel, 
>> 
>> Thanks for the advice :)  Much appreciated.  I have many more that I can 
>> choose from adhering to more of the guidelines 
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 19, 2012, at 5:25 PM, Daniel Pullan wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey man, I tried using this as a background and found it didn't quite fit 
>>> my screensize. Also, it's quite a busy picture, very attention grabbing, 
>>> I'm sure some people will agree it might not be suited to being a 
>>> background picture. 
>>> 
>>> In the ubuntu design guidelines there is:
>>> 
>>> "Avoid high frequency images. ( A soft focus is one way to achieve this )"
>>> 
>>> "As the name suggests, visually, it should settle into the “background” of 
>>> the activity scene"
>>> 
>>> "Your image should strive for subtlety and poetry".
>>> 
>>> I don't feel this image adheres to that. Also, 
>>> 
>>> "The final dimension should be 2560 x 1600 pixels".
>>> 
>>> This image is 3648x2736, as you can see the dimension is wrong, I'm sure 
>>> this is nothing a well done crop would fix (Gimp works for this).
>>> 
>>> Overall, I don't think this picture works, however it's a great first 
>>> attempt and I'm sure you can either attempt to fix this image or try using 
>>> a different photo you've taken.
>>> 
>>> Away from the background side of things, it's a cool picture, I love the 
>>> blues of the water, very nice.
>>> 
>>> Daniel
>>> 
>>> On 19 October 2012 22:58, Jason Williams  wrote:
>>> Hello to the Ubuntu community,
>>> 
>>> My name is Jason Williams and I am a professional freelance photographer 
>>> and IT security student.  I am new to the community here and have already 
>>> received some helpful advice from others who are also on the mailing list.  
>>> I wish to share a photograph that I captured while in Neah Bay WA over the 
>>> Summer this year that I would love feed back on and possibly a chance for 
>>> the administrators in the Ubuntu community to approve it for usage :).  
>>> Please, all members feel free to comment as I welcome it.  Thank you again 
>>> for the opportunity to serve and help out in whatever way I can in the 
>>> Ubuntu community.
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Jason Williams
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [ubuntu-art] new Ubuntu member freelance professional photographer

[Daniel Pullan]

I know that feeling too well, thanks.

On 19 October 2012 23:44, Jason Williams  wrote:

> *Sure.  I will email some more pics later tonight cause I'm going to be
> up late most likely...*
>
>
> On Oct 19, 2012, at 5:36 PM, Daniel Pullan wrote:
>
> Hey Jason,
>
> You're more then welcome. Is there anyway I can see more of your work?
>
> On 19 October 2012 23:39, Jason Williams  wrote:
>
>> *Hey Daniel, *
>> *
>> *
>> *Thanks for the advice :)  Much appreciated.  I have many more that I
>> can choose from adhering to more of the guidelines *
>>
>>
>> On Oct 19, 2012, at 5:25 PM, Daniel Pullan wrote:
>>
>> Hey man, I tried using this as a background and found it didn't quite fit
>> my screensize. Also, it's quite a busy picture, very attention grabbing,
>> I'm sure some people will agree it might not be suited to being a
>> background picture.
>>
>> In the ubuntu design guidelines there is:
>>
>> "Avoid high frequency images. ( A soft focus is one way to achieve this )"
>>
>> "As the name suggests, visually, it should settle into the “background”
>> of the activity scene"
>>
>> "Your image should strive for subtlety and poetry".
>>
>> I don't feel this image adheres to that. Also,
>>
>> "The final dimension should be 2560 x 1600 pixels".
>>
>> This image is 3648x2736, as you can see the dimension is wrong, I'm sure
>> this is nothing a well done crop would fix (Gimp works for this).
>>
>> Overall, I don't think this picture works, however it's a great first
>> attempt and I'm sure you can either attempt to fix this image or try using
>> a different photo you've taken.
>>
>> Away from the background side of things, it's a cool picture, I love the
>> blues of the water, very nice.
>>
>> Daniel
>>
>> On 19 October 2012 22:58, Jason Williams  wrote:
>>
>>> *Hello to the Ubuntu community,*
>>> *
>>> *
>>> *My name is Jason Williams and I am a professional freelance
>>> photographer and IT security student.  I am new to the community here and
>>> have already received some helpful advice from others who are also on the
>>> mailing list.  I wish to share a photograph that I captured while in Neah
>>> Bay WA over the Summer this year that I would love feed back on and
>>> possibly a chance for the administrators in the Ubuntu community to approve
>>> it for usage :).  Please, all members feel free to comment as I welcome it.
>>>  Thank you again for the opportunity to serve and help out in whatever way
>>> I can in the Ubuntu community.*
>>> *
>>> *
>>> *Sincerely,*
>>> *Jason Williams*
>>> *
>>> *
>>> **
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Re: [ubuntu-art] new Ubuntu member freelance professional photographer

[Jason Williams]

Sure.  I will email some more pics later tonight cause I'm going to be up late 
most likely...


On Oct 19, 2012, at 5:36 PM, Daniel Pullan wrote:

> Hey Jason,
> 
> You're more then welcome. Is there anyway I can see more of your work?
> 
> On 19 October 2012 23:39, Jason Williams  wrote:
> Hey Daniel, 
> 
> Thanks for the advice :)  Much appreciated.  I have many more that I can 
> choose from adhering to more of the guidelines 
> 
> 
> On Oct 19, 2012, at 5:25 PM, Daniel Pullan wrote:
> 
>> Hey man, I tried using this as a background and found it didn't quite fit my 
>> screensize. Also, it's quite a busy picture, very attention grabbing, I'm 
>> sure some people will agree it might not be suited to being a background 
>> picture. 
>> 
>> In the ubuntu design guidelines there is:
>> 
>> "Avoid high frequency images. ( A soft focus is one way to achieve this )"
>> 
>> "As the name suggests, visually, it should settle into the “background” of 
>> the activity scene"
>> 
>> "Your image should strive for subtlety and poetry".
>> 
>> I don't feel this image adheres to that. Also, 
>> 
>> "The final dimension should be 2560 x 1600 pixels".
>> 
>> This image is 3648x2736, as you can see the dimension is wrong, I'm sure 
>> this is nothing a well done crop would fix (Gimp works for this).
>> 
>> Overall, I don't think this picture works, however it's a great first 
>> attempt and I'm sure you can either attempt to fix this image or try using a 
>> different photo you've taken.
>> 
>> Away from the background side of things, it's a cool picture, I love the 
>> blues of the water, very nice.
>> 
>> Daniel
>> 
>> On 19 October 2012 22:58, Jason Williams  wrote:
>> Hello to the Ubuntu community,
>> 
>> My name is Jason Williams and I am a professional freelance photographer and 
>> IT security student.  I am new to the community here and have already 
>> received some helpful advice from others who are also on the mailing list.  
>> I wish to share a photograph that I captured while in Neah Bay WA over the 
>> Summer this year that I would love feed back on and possibly a chance for 
>> the administrators in the Ubuntu community to approve it for usage :).  
>> Please, all members feel free to comment as I welcome it.  Thank you again 
>> for the opportunity to serve and help out in whatever way I can in the 
>> Ubuntu community.
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> Jason Williams
>> 
>> 
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Re: [ubuntu-art] new Ubuntu member freelance professional photographer

[Daniel Pullan]

Hey Jason,

You're more then welcome. Is there anyway I can see more of your work?

On 19 October 2012 23:39, Jason Williams  wrote:

> *Hey Daniel, *
> *
> *
> *Thanks for the advice :)  Much appreciated.  I have many more that I can
> choose from adhering to more of the guidelines *
>
>
> On Oct 19, 2012, at 5:25 PM, Daniel Pullan wrote:
>
> Hey man, I tried using this as a background and found it didn't quite fit
> my screensize. Also, it's quite a busy picture, very attention grabbing,
> I'm sure some people will agree it might not be suited to being a
> background picture.
>
> In the ubuntu design guidelines there is:
>
> "Avoid high frequency images. ( A soft focus is one way to achieve this )"
>
> "As the name suggests, visually, it should settle into the “background”
> of the activity scene"
>
> "Your image should strive for subtlety and poetry".
>
> I don't feel this image adheres to that. Also,
>
> "The final dimension should be 2560 x 1600 pixels".
>
> This image is 3648x2736, as you can see the dimension is wrong, I'm sure
> this is nothing a well done crop would fix (Gimp works for this).
>
> Overall, I don't think this picture works, however it's a great first
> attempt and I'm sure you can either attempt to fix this image or try using
> a different photo you've taken.
>
> Away from the background side of things, it's a cool picture, I love the
> blues of the water, very nice.
>
> Daniel
>
> On 19 October 2012 22:58, Jason Williams  wrote:
>
>> *Hello to the Ubuntu community,*
>> *
>> *
>> *My name is Jason Williams and I am a professional freelance
>> photographer and IT security student.  I am new to the community here and
>> have already received some helpful advice from others who are also on the
>> mailing list.  I wish to share a photograph that I captured while in Neah
>> Bay WA over the Summer this year that I would love feed back on and
>> possibly a chance for the administrators in the Ubuntu community to approve
>> it for usage :).  Please, all members feel free to comment as I welcome it.
>>  Thank you again for the opportunity to serve and help out in whatever way
>> I can in the Ubuntu community.*
>> *
>> *
>> *Sincerely,*
>> *Jason Williams*
>> *
>> *
>> **
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Re: [ubuntu-art] new Ubuntu member freelance professional photographer

[Jason Williams]

Hey Daniel, 

Thanks for the advice :)  Much appreciated.  I have many more that I can choose 
from adhering to more of the guidelines 


On Oct 19, 2012, at 5:25 PM, Daniel Pullan wrote:

> Hey man, I tried using this as a background and found it didn't quite fit my 
> screensize. Also, it's quite a busy picture, very attention grabbing, I'm 
> sure some people will agree it might not be suited to being a background 
> picture. 
> 
> In the ubuntu design guidelines there is:
> 
> "Avoid high frequency images. ( A soft focus is one way to achieve this )"
> 
> "As the name suggests, visually, it should settle into the “background” of 
> the activity scene"
> 
> "Your image should strive for subtlety and poetry".
> 
> I don't feel this image adheres to that. Also, 
> 
> "The final dimension should be 2560 x 1600 pixels".
> 
> This image is 3648x2736, as you can see the dimension is wrong, I'm sure this 
> is nothing a well done crop would fix (Gimp works for this).
> 
> Overall, I don't think this picture works, however it's a great first attempt 
> and I'm sure you can either attempt to fix this image or try using a 
> different photo you've taken.
> 
> Away from the background side of things, it's a cool picture, I love the 
> blues of the water, very nice.
> 
> Daniel
> 
> On 19 October 2012 22:58, Jason Williams  wrote:
> Hello to the Ubuntu community,
> 
> My name is Jason Williams and I am a professional freelance photographer and 
> IT security student.  I am new to the community here and have already 
> received some helpful advice from others who are also on the mailing list.  I 
> wish to share a photograph that I captured while in Neah Bay WA over the 
> Summer this year that I would love feed back on and possibly a chance for the 
> administrators in the Ubuntu community to approve it for usage :).  Please, 
> all members feel free to comment as I welcome it.  Thank you again for the 
> opportunity to serve and help out in whatever way I can in the Ubuntu 
> community.
> 
> Sincerely,
> Jason Williams
> 
> 
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[ubuntu-art] New Ubuntu Wallpaper Artwork Set Idea

[Jackson Isted]

Hi All,

Just wondering what people's thoughts are on a new wallpaper set for Ubuntu and 
maybe other OS's. I would name the  set Night Lights.

The photos I would like to include are located here (and more may be added 
later 
on):https://picasaweb.google.com/hawks008/NightLights?authuser=0&feat=directlink.

If you have any thought feel free to direct reply or group reply.

Thanks,
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Re: [ubuntu-art] new icon themes

[Сергей]

These icons were commissioned by Canonical indeed, but they are over a
year old and they're not being developed.

By the way, elementary icons, upon which Humanity icon set is based,
will see a new release soon:
http://elementaryos.org/journal/icons-30-begin-testing-luna

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Re: [ubuntu-art] new icon themes

[John Baer]

On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 7:52 AM, Murali Krishna
wrote:

>
>
> Hello everyone,
>> the icons looks pretty outdated even after changing many themes. In terms
>> of visual appeal, I think there is a long way for Ubuntu when compared with
>> Windows 7. Please look into development of more visually attractive icons
>> and themes. Please forward your opinions and suggestions.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Murali Krishna
>>
>>
>>
Murali,

A rumor is new icons are being discussed by the design team and will be
developed under contract.

This site http://www.yellowicon.com/ shows it is under contract (?) by
Canonical.

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[ubuntu-art] new icon themes

[Murali Krishna]

Hello everyone,
> the icons looks pretty outdated even after changing many themes. In terms
> of visual appeal, I think there is a long way for Ubuntu when compared with
> Windows 7. Please look into development of more visually attractive icons
> and themes. Please forward your opinions and suggestions.
>
> Best Regards,
> Murali Krishna
>
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[ubuntu-art] New Member

[daniel thiele]

I'm a new subscriber to Ubuntu Art and am mainly interested in this as a
learning experience but will still like to contribute, although my ability
is fairly limited. I have no qualification what soever but am quite good
with computer generated imagery(mainly blender 3D but a bit of
gimp, Photoshop and Illustrator) and can do a bit of quite a few codes
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Re: [ubuntu-art] New member

[Joel Grissom]

I am not very good at freehand drawing but I create my own  logos and images in 
photoshop and illustrator. I am happy to help wherever I can, and. An code or 
create art, buttons or improve UI. 

Joel Grissom

On Oct 20, 2011, at 11:55 AM, Martin Owens  wrote:

> Welcome Joel,
> 
> It's great to have you here. Are you mainly in the area of design and
> production (html/php) or can you do drawing art as well?
> 
> What kinds of things would you like to help with? Do you know any
> python? PLaces like the loco directory need more design help and general
> help, there are also lots of small pieces that could do with some
> art/design attention.
> 
> Best Regards, Martin Owens
> 
> On Thu, 2011-10-20 at 01:17 -0500, Joel Grissom wrote:
>> Anyhow, I am a web designer who is learning PHP and I work on Gimp as
>> well as the Adobe creative suite. I just finished my Master of
>> Technology, Graphic Information Technology in August at Arizona State
>> University. I moved to Houston, TX shortly after that, and I am ready
>> to contribute to the Ubuntu Art Project. 
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Re: [ubuntu-art] New member

[Martin Owens]

Welcome Joel,

It's great to have you here. Are you mainly in the area of design and
production (html/php) or can you do drawing art as well?

What kinds of things would you like to help with? Do you know any
python? PLaces like the loco directory need more design help and general
help, there are also lots of small pieces that could do with some
art/design attention.

Best Regards, Martin Owens

On Thu, 2011-10-20 at 01:17 -0500, Joel Grissom wrote:
> Anyhow, I am a web designer who is learning PHP and I work on Gimp as
> well as the Adobe creative suite. I just finished my Master of
> Technology, Graphic Information Technology in August at Arizona State
> University. I moved to Houston, TX shortly after that, and I am ready
> to contribute to the Ubuntu Art Project. 


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[ubuntu-art] New member

[Joel Grissom]

I am a new member to volunteer to work on Ubuntu Art and I am excited. I have 
wanted to give something back for quite some time now, but it is hard to 
convince people you will work for free. I tried he
Ping several non-profit orgs. But not one replied to my offer to help. 

Anyhow, I am a web designer who is learning PHP and I work on Gimp as well as 
the Adobe creative suite. I just finished my Master of Technology, Graphic 
Information Technology in August at Arizona State University. I moved to 
Houston, TX shortly after that, and I am ready to contribute to the Ubuntu Art 
Project. 

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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Technology and Freedom

[Alexander King]

orly, unlimited web storage? sounds awesome :D is the software going to be
free? cause that sounds a bit too good to be true :P i would love to help
 Kind regards,

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[ubuntu-art] New Technology and Freedom

[Amaresh Rajaratnam]

I am currenly going to bring a software for ubuntu to allow users to Install it 
and make their own website for free and upload it to our New Technology and 
Freedom web server. All users who have ubuntu only can create their own 
professional websites for free and upload. To create a website the software 
from NTF have to be installed in the computer. I am going to allow all the 
users who have this software to create website with unlimited Web Stroage, 
unlimited Bandwidth, with 5 Email accounts for all.

 This is a personal web project for ubuntu and to make ubuntu more popular than 
others. This free website creating will be easy to use and easy to grow your 
own business, organization and social networks. The free website will contain 
PHP Scripting.

 If you want to be a part of this project send us an email to 
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[ubuntu-art] New Desktop Icons

[Amaresh Rajaratnam]

I have planned to make the ubuntu desktop icons ever more best than now. Also i 
am planning to set new functions like skype, meebo messengers to be worked in 
ubuntu's own softwares.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Xubuntu Wallpaper

[Saleel Velankar]

A thing that concerns me is the black. black is that quantity is
distracting, and makes the whole wall a bit dark. I will play around with
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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Xubuntu Wallpaper

[Vishnoo]

On Wed, 2010-12-01 at 09:32 +0100, Thorsten Wilms wrote:
> On Tue, 2010-11-30 at 22:05 +, Jakub Jankiewicz wrote:
> 
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/56196...@n08/5221489829/
> 
> > http://images.jcubic.pl/xubuntu-wallpaper.svg
> 
> 
> Thank you for your contribution.
> 
> I think we should avoid text and logos on wallpapers (except if woven
> into the fabric of the wallpaper in a subtle way, perhaps).
> 
> It was on oversight on my part to not mention that in the spec. So now I
> added:
>  * No logo and no text. Such elements attract too much attention.
> Constantly reminding the user of the name of the distribution does not
> communicate confidence.
> 
> 
> Jakub: I would like to see a version (or versions) of your wallpaper
> without the logo/text and with glowing schematics. Also a rotation such
> that no lines are horizontal or vertical could be interesting. Remember,
> the wallpaper should speak of performance and lightness.


I played a bit with Jakub's source.. 
<>

But, it does have the Xubuntu logo! was just too tempting to not remove
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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Xubuntu Wallpaper

[Thorsten Wilms]

On Wed, 2010-12-01 at 11:07 +, Jakub Jankiewicz wrote:

> I create different version - I rotate it and create blue glow (the dimension 
> is
> 1024x576).
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/56196...@n08/5222903449/
> 
> http://images.jcubic.pl/xubuntu-wallpaper2.svg

That's better. Now it looks like there would be black clouds above it,
though.

The general impression is of course: this is about technology, about
hardware.


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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Xubuntu Wallpaper

[Jakub Jankiewicz]

Thorsten Wilms  freenet.de> writes:

> Jakub: I would like to see a version (or versions) of your wallpaper
> without the logo/text and with glowing schematics. Also a rotation such
> that no lines are horizontal or vertical could be interesting. Remember,
> the wallpaper should speak of performance and lightness.
> 

I create different version - I rotate it and create blue glow (the dimension is
1024x576).

http://www.flickr.com/photos/56196...@n08/5222903449/

http://images.jcubic.pl/xubuntu-wallpaper2.svg


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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Xubuntu Wallpaper

[Jakub Jankiewicz]

j_baer  gmail.com> writes:

> My question is how well does this design scale to a "1024 x 576" 16:9 aspect
> ratio.
> 
> Will you investigate and report back?
> 

It looks nice if you resize proportionally to 1024x640 and then crop to 1024x576
removing the bottom part.


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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Xubuntu Wallpaper

[Thorsten Wilms]

On Tue, 2010-11-30 at 22:05 +, Jakub Jankiewicz wrote:

> http://www.flickr.com/photos/56196...@n08/5221489829/

> http://images.jcubic.pl/xubuntu-wallpaper.svg


Thank you for your contribution.

I think we should avoid text and logos on wallpapers (except if woven
into the fabric of the wallpaper in a subtle way, perhaps).

It was on oversight on my part to not mention that in the spec. So now I
added:
 * No logo and no text. Such elements attract too much attention.
Constantly reminding the user of the name of the distribution does not
communicate confidence.


Jakub: I would like to see a version (or versions) of your wallpaper
without the logo/text and with glowing schematics. Also a rotation such
that no lines are horizontal or vertical could be interesting. Remember,
the wallpaper should speak of performance and lightness.


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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Xubuntu Wallpaper

[j_baer]

Jakub Jankiewicz-3 wrote:
> 
> I create wallpaper for Xubuntu (dimensions as in spec)
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/56196...@n08/5221489829/
> 
> 

Jakub,

Very nice and thank you posting this submission early. :-)

I am making an assumption some folks will install Xubuntu on smaller laptops
or perhaps netbooks.

My question is how well does this design scale to a "1024 x 576" 16:9 aspect
ratio.

Will you investigate and report back?

Best regards,

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[ubuntu-art] New Xubuntu Wallpaper

[Jakub Jankiewicz]

I create wallpaper for Xubuntu (dimensions as in spec)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/56196...@n08/5221489829/

Vector version can be found here: 
http://images.jcubic.pl/xubuntu-wallpaper.svg

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Re: [ubuntu-art] New icons for gtk

[Lewis Coleman]

Hi Brillant design love (*luteus)

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[ubuntu-art] New icons for gtk

[Jakub Jankiewicz]

I create new icons for GTK that can be used with Ubuntu and distros based on it.
http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=135654

I can be easy customized to fit to color scheme of any flavor of Ubuntu.


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[ubuntu-art] New Unity Logo Proposal

[j_baer]

> In my opinion the current icon (
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Unity_Logo.svg) is too plain.
> Actually, the more I look at it, the more I like it, but the first
> impression is dreadful. The logos proposed in this thread might me not
> enough symbolic. I'd prefer a simple and symbolic logo, like the one
> Ubuntu
> has now. A fierce competition between Unity and GNOME Shell will start
> very
> soon and a good logo will positively influence Unity adoption.
>
> Respectfully,
> --
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I'm starting this a new thread ( compiz/unity) as we really have two topics
here. The stated desire is the Artwork Team creates a new logo for Unity as
a proposal for the Design Team.

Thoughts?

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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Artwork Team Wiki

[Thorsten Wilms]

On Wed, 2010-11-03 at 18:08 -0400, John Baer wrote:

> * Create your images in a tool capable of supporting the “SVG” image
> format (viz. Inkscape).  I used 128px as the height. Export your
> submission as a “png” or “jpg”. I discovered Flickr displays icons
> uploaded as “jpg” better than “png”. I use GIMP to do the conversion.

How does Flickr display JPG better than PNG? JPG is a terrible format
for this kind of graphics.


> I moved the desired due date out to 12/01 to give everyone time to
> participate.

I guess that means 1st of December, not 12th of January ;)


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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Artwork Team Wiki

[Charlie Kravetz]

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On Wed, 3 Nov 2010 18:08:17 -0400
John Baer  wrote:

> Hello Everyone,
> 
> It is my pleasure to introduce the updated new look of the Artwork Team Wiki
> ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork ). The design supports the changes
> outlined in the blueprint and may be considered a work in progress. Please
> set your user preferences to the new "light" Wiki theme for the best user
> experience.
> 
> One important process I will draw attention to is the change to being task
> focused, not release focused. A task such as “create new default wallpaper”
> may be directed to a specific release; the task design a new “Artwork Team
> Logo” is release independent. This change will allow us to accept a greater
> variety of assignments.
> 
> As discussed at UDS this solution is temporary as the desire is to create a
> new robust solution based on ccHost, Django, or Ruby on Rails. Although not
> perfect, the current mix of mailing list, Ubuntu Wiki, and Flickr is mature
> and tested. When considering broad changes I like to “start with the simple,
> move to the complex”. This is the simple solution. :)
> 
> So how does the Process work?
> 
> Step 1 – Make a request or proposal.
> 
> I anticipate requests and proposals will come in from a variety of sources
> in the community. In fact they already are!
> 
> Step 2 – Create a “Spec”.
> 
> The purpose of the spec is to explain what needs to be done, how to do it,
> and when it needs to be complete. The goal of the spec is to provide a
> mechanism to inform folks about a request or proposal they may have an
> interest in contributing to.
> 
> Step 3 – Create Submissions
> 
> With a Spec in place folks may create submissions or work on other tasks.
>  Submissions may be discussed on the mailing list and for effort which
> utilizes Flickr, comments may be appended to submissions. When there is a
> desire, additional discussions may occur on the IRC. Please remember in the
> case of art it sometimes becomes a matter of preference. Be respectful and
> use the Ubuntu Code of Conduct in our discussions. It is anticipated the
> submission process will be iterative and dynamic.
> 
> Step 4 – Evaluate and Approve
> 
> The final step is the approval and selection of the desired result. In some
> cases this may also include the evaluation of different design concepts to
> determine the best solution (viz. Ubuntu countdown banner). In addition, my
> hope is many will choose to post their appreciation as an accolade.
> 
> What if it doesn’t fit?
> 
> All of the above may be too formal for some requests (viz. can you give me
> some ideas on how to improve this web page).  In those cases the mailing
> list may be adequate, in others cases we may have to discover the best
> approach.
> 
> The Beta
> 
> The first task (our beta) is to create the new Artwork Team logo. I created
> a submission to seed the effort, serve as a process example, and to
> encourage others. This is a real task and the result will be prominently
> displayed in the community and worthy of inclusion into your portfolio.
> 
> The Walk-thru - Artwork Team Logo
> 
> * If you do not have an account on Flickr, create one. The free account is
> adequate for this task.
> 
> * Create your images in a tool capable of supporting the “SVG” image format
> (viz. Inkscape).  I used 128px as the height. Export your submission as a
> “png” or “jpg”. I discovered Flickr displays icons uploaded as “jpg” better
> than “png”. I use GIMP to do the conversion.
> 
> * Upload your images to your Flickr photo stream.  Be sure to tag the image
> with “UbuntuArtworkTeamLogo”, attribute as “creative commons”, and add
> comments of your choosing.
> 
> * Join the “Ubuntu Artwork Team Logo Designs” group and add your image(s).
> http://www.flickr.com/groups/uawt-1/
> 
> * Optionally, attach your source files (svg) to the spec.  Be sure to
> identify your attachment in a manner which links it to your submission.
> 
> * Inform the group using the mailing list.
> 
> I moved the desired due date out to 12/01 to give everyone time to
> participate. If you have problems just let me know (  j.b...@ubuntu.com ).
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> John

That is very nice. Could the second paragraph of
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork#Don%27t%20go%20it%20alone! be changed
to a darker text for accessiblity? The light gray is difficult to read.
The rest looks great!

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[ubuntu-art] New Artwork Team Wiki

[John Baer]

Hello Everyone,

It is my pleasure to introduce the updated new look of the Artwork Team Wiki
( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork ). The design supports the changes
outlined in the blueprint and may be considered a work in progress. Please
set your user preferences to the new "light" Wiki theme for the best user
experience.

One important process I will draw attention to is the change to being task
focused, not release focused. A task such as “create new default wallpaper”
may be directed to a specific release; the task design a new “Artwork Team
Logo” is release independent. This change will allow us to accept a greater
variety of assignments.

As discussed at UDS this solution is temporary as the desire is to create a
new robust solution based on ccHost, Django, or Ruby on Rails. Although not
perfect, the current mix of mailing list, Ubuntu Wiki, and Flickr is mature
and tested. When considering broad changes I like to “start with the simple,
move to the complex”. This is the simple solution. :)

So how does the Process work?

Step 1 – Make a request or proposal.

I anticipate requests and proposals will come in from a variety of sources
in the community. In fact they already are!

Step 2 – Create a “Spec”.

The purpose of the spec is to explain what needs to be done, how to do it,
and when it needs to be complete. The goal of the spec is to provide a
mechanism to inform folks about a request or proposal they may have an
interest in contributing to.

Step 3 – Create Submissions

With a Spec in place folks may create submissions or work on other tasks.
 Submissions may be discussed on the mailing list and for effort which
utilizes Flickr, comments may be appended to submissions. When there is a
desire, additional discussions may occur on the IRC. Please remember in the
case of art it sometimes becomes a matter of preference. Be respectful and
use the Ubuntu Code of Conduct in our discussions. It is anticipated the
submission process will be iterative and dynamic.

Step 4 – Evaluate and Approve

The final step is the approval and selection of the desired result. In some
cases this may also include the evaluation of different design concepts to
determine the best solution (viz. Ubuntu countdown banner). In addition, my
hope is many will choose to post their appreciation as an accolade.

What if it doesn’t fit?

All of the above may be too formal for some requests (viz. can you give me
some ideas on how to improve this web page).  In those cases the mailing
list may be adequate, in others cases we may have to discover the best
approach.

The Beta

The first task (our beta) is to create the new Artwork Team logo. I created
a submission to seed the effort, serve as a process example, and to
encourage others. This is a real task and the result will be prominently
displayed in the community and worthy of inclusion into your portfolio.

The Walk-thru - Artwork Team Logo

* If you do not have an account on Flickr, create one. The free account is
adequate for this task.

* Create your images in a tool capable of supporting the “SVG” image format
(viz. Inkscape).  I used 128px as the height. Export your submission as a
“png” or “jpg”. I discovered Flickr displays icons uploaded as “jpg” better
than “png”. I use GIMP to do the conversion.

* Upload your images to your Flickr photo stream.  Be sure to tag the image
with “UbuntuArtworkTeamLogo”, attribute as “creative commons”, and add
comments of your choosing.

* Join the “Ubuntu Artwork Team Logo Designs” group and add your image(s).
http://www.flickr.com/groups/uawt-1/

* Optionally, attach your source files (svg) to the spec.  Be sure to
identify your attachment in a manner which links it to your submission.

* Inform the group using the mailing list.

I moved the desired due date out to 12/01 to give everyone time to
participate. If you have problems just let me know (  j.b...@ubuntu.com ).

Thanks!

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Re: [ubuntu-art] New to Ubuntu

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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Wave 0.9 Beta 1

[Devraj Baruah]

electricity:)

On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Anton Kerezov  wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 8:31 PM, Abhinav Sharma
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>>
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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Wave 0.9 Beta 1

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On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 8:31 PM, Abhinav Sharma  wrote:

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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Wave 0.9 Beta 1

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Sure!

On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Anton Kerezov  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> This is the first beta of the theme that will be followed by second one
> and RC after that. I would be very grateful if you could test it and see
> if everything is ok up to now. I you have any recommendations I'll be
> glad to hear them. you could download the beta here:
>
> https://launchpad.net/anton/+download
>
> 
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[ubuntu-art] New Wave 0.9 Beta 1

[Anton Kerezov]

Hi,

This is the first beta of the theme that will be followed by second one
and RC after that. I would be very grateful if you could test it and see
if everything is ok up to now. I you have any recommendations I'll be
glad to hear them. you could download the beta here:

https://launchpad.net/anton/+download


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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Communty Themes Wiki Page

[j_baer]

Thorsten Wilms wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 2010-04-17 at 08:31 -0700, j_baer wrote:
> 
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JohnBaer/SandBox
> 
>> Thorsten, I need your advice on where this page should be located.
> 
> Being the only audience-facing page, it does not fit into any of the
> existing top levels.
> 
> If this page remains the only one of it's kind, it could be 
> /Artwork/CommunityThemes
> But perhaps with a release version attached?
> 
> If there is a realistic chance of similar pages being added, it should
> be /Artwork/Packages/CommunityThemes or
> perhaps /Artwork/Packages/10-04/CommunityThemes
> 
> Thorsten Wilms
> 
> 

As the release is only 11 days away I would like to handle the final
disposition of this as a backlog item to be resolved during the 10.10
development cycle.

http://old.nabble.com/file/p28279426/community-themes.png 

As the current Website link on the Software Center installation form points
to the current wiki page my suggestion is create a new page in
"Artwork/Documentation" title CommunityThemesGuidelines.

Move the content of the current CommunityThemes page to
CommunityThemesGuidelines.

When this is complete update CommunityThemes with the public facing content.

This will resolve the current issue and provide adequate time to plan for
the best long term solution.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Communty Themes Wiki Page

[Thorsten Wilms]

On Sat, 2010-04-17 at 08:31 -0700, j_baer wrote:

> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JohnBaer/SandBox

> Thorsten, I need your advice on where this page should be located.

Being the only audience-facing page, it does not fit into any of the
existing top levels.

If this page remains the only one of it's kind, it could be 
/Artwork/CommunityThemes
But perhaps with a release version attached?

If there is a realistic chance of similar pages being added, it should
be /Artwork/Packages/CommunityThemes or
perhaps /Artwork/Packages/10-04/CommunityThemes


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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Communty Themes Wiki Page

[j_baer]

Hello everyone,

I've completed my vision of the public facing Community Themes wiki page and
would like to replace the content of the current page with the new content. 

My desire in creating this page was to align with the new Ubuntu branding to
the greatest extent possible and to showcase the themes without preference. 

My goal is Ubuntu users who desire to install this package will view this
page to make an informed decision.

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JohnBaer/SandBox

I anticipate a new Community Themes page will be created to capture the
essence of the current page.

Thorsten, I need your advice on where this page should be located.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] New guy

[Thorsten Wilms]

Welcome Josh!

On Tue, 2010-04-13 at 11:51 -0500, josh wrote:

> As for the list posting/replying I am still 
> slightly confused to how it works.

Just mimic what I'm doing here. That is: reply blow quotes, quote only
what you refer to directly. 


> If anyone knows of anything that 
> still needs to be designed before LTS's release, let me know and I will 
> try and get it done.

I guess it's time to start targeting 10.10 rather than 10.04.

Wallpaper submissions via Flickr, themes for the community-themes
packages and countdown banners are the clear options for contributing. 

If anything else is needed, it usually comes with requirements making it
a job for the designers at Canonical and only in rare cases for trusted
community members of proven skill.

So you might want to consider working for a derivative or a specific
piece of software, as you may find more need, freedom and reward there.


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[ubuntu-art] New guy

[josh]

Hello everyone. Been running Ubuntu for a while now and figured it was 
about time to truly get involved other then just being a user and 
promoter/fanboy.
I've been running Gimp for the past 3 years now after getting myself 
away from Photoshop. As for the list posting/replying I am still 
slightly confused to how it works. If anyone knows of anything that 
still needs to be designed before LTS's release, let me know and I will 
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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Communty Themes Wiki Page

[j_baer]

Yann Dìnendal wrote:
> 
> Would it be possible to have this package in the "featured" category of
> the
> software center?
> 
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I'm not familiar with the mechanics of identifying a package with a group
and as the RC is close I assume this is a change that will have to wait.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Communty Themes Wiki Page

[Yann Dìnendal]

Would it be possible to have this package in the "featured" category of the
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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Communty Themes Wiki Page

[j_baer]

I updated the wiki page with another mockup. This approach displays two
screen shots for each theme. I removed the comments to keep the page more
manageable.

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JohnBaer/SandBox

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[ubuntu-art] new member

[Kenneth Wimer]

Hi Jani,

On Monday 12 April 2010 10:49:49 am Jani hintu wrote:
> Hi Trey.
> 
> tell me how can i help whit any project at all?

You'll find answers to all of your questions (hopefully!) here:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/

>  i'm new user of ubuntu and from start till now, just got some translated
> "jobs"
> 
>  But interested to find out how to make art or kind of whit this OS.
> 
> first of all what is the program what people use to make artworks here?

Mainly we use open source tools like Inkscape and Gimp. Naturally, you can use 
whatever tools you wish but not using an open format to save them in limits 
their usefulness.

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>  is it this gimp  what is from my point of view just good as photoshop or
> paint shop-pro. litte confused first but new things are almost everytime.
> 
> i want to be a part artworkers, and help.
> 
> maybe i have some  skills to do so but...
> 
> if you please Let me know or email to me idea's, how can do something.
> 
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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Communty Themes Wiki Page

[Thorsten Wilms]

On Sun, 2010-04-11 at 14:54 -0700, j_baer wrote:

> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Documentation/CommunityThemes

> I turned the title bar on and removed the orange strip from the top. IMO the
> title bar means little to the typical Ubuntu user but I can live with it.

True, if you get to that page via Software Center or other direct link. 


> My desire is to add value to the user experience. I am trying to think about
> this page from a "typical" user perspective and I arrived here from either
> the Software Center or some other reference. The question being considered
> is "should I install this package"?

I'd like to see some level of separation between this audience-facing
page and the rest of our wiki pages that are all targeted at
designers/contributors.

If the link can be changed, it should be
Artwork/Packages/CommunityThemes or something along those lines.


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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Communty Themes Wiki Page

[j_baer]

Zachary C. Pletan wrote:
> 
>> As promised I started to to update the Community Themes wiki page. The
>> current content is just to see how the page flows.
>> 
>> ...
>> 
>> - The "logo" is my attempt to blend with the new Ubuntu look (e.g.
>> "fish")
>> assuming the appearance of the wiki will not change. Other ideas are
>> welcomed.
> 
> That's a neat-looking font in the logo.  What did you use?
> 
> Thanks,
> zpletan
> 
> 

http://www.fontspace.com/nymphont/caviar-dreams

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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Communty Themes Wiki Page

[Zachary C. Pletan]

> As promised I started to to update the Community Themes wiki page. The
> current content is just to see how the page flows.
> 
> ...
> 
> - The "logo" is my attempt to blend with the new Ubuntu look (e.g. "fish")
> assuming the appearance of the wiki will not change. Other ideas are
> welcomed.

That's a neat-looking font in the logo.  What did you use?

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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Communty Themes Wiki Page

[j_baer]

Thorsten Wilms wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 2010-04-10 at 08:45 -0700, j_baer wrote:
> 
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JohnBaer/SandBox
> 
> OK, so this is meant to be an audience-facing page, unlike the entire
> rest of the Artwork wiki section? What do you think should be the
> path/name in the end?
> 

As it is now, the Software Center link is to:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Documentation/CommunityThemes

I assume this should not change.



> 
>> - Is the general format Ok? I removed the Artwork banner as it did not
>> seem
>> to fit.
> 
> I think it is not OK for anything living under
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork to get rid of the navigation header
> (except _maybe_ for pages below a central project page, with their own
> navigation header).
> 
> 

I turned the title bar on and removed the orange strip from the top. IMO the
title bar means little to the typical Ubuntu user but I can live with it.



>> - The "logo" is my attempt to blend with the new Ubuntu look (e.g.
>> "fish")
>> assuming the appearance of the wiki will not change. Other ideas are
>> welcomed.
> 
> If you really want to match the new look, you should fill the shape and
> not use outlines. the fish tails are not convincing and the eyes are a
> bit large.
> 
> The wide tracking on "Themes" is brutal and entirely unnecessary.
> 

I would welcome other designs. :)



> 
>> If this designed is agreed, I hope the respective authors will supply
>> screen
>> shots and text. Otherwise I will do the best I can. : )
> 
> Comments seem out of place on such an overview.
> 
> Perhaps there should be separate links to wiki page and Launchpad (or
> other download) per theme.
> 
> 

My desire is to add value to the user experience. I am trying to think about
this page from a "typical" user perspective and I arrived here from either
the Software Center or some other reference. The question being considered
is "should I install this package"?

Thorsten, thank you for your comments.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Communty Themes Wiki Page

[Thorsten Wilms]

On Sat, 2010-04-10 at 08:45 -0700, j_baer wrote:

> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JohnBaer/SandBox

OK, so this is meant to be an audience-facing page, unlike the entire
rest of the Artwork wiki section? What do you think should be the
path/name in the end?


> - Is the general format Ok? I removed the Artwork banner as it did not seem
> to fit.

I think it is not OK for anything living under
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork to get rid of the navigation header
(except _maybe_ for pages below a central project page, with their own
navigation header).


> - The "logo" is my attempt to blend with the new Ubuntu look (e.g. "fish")
> assuming the appearance of the wiki will not change. Other ideas are
> welcomed.

If you really want to match the new look, you should fill the shape and
not use outlines. the fish tails are not convincing and the eyes are a
bit large.

The wide tracking on "Themes" is brutal and entirely unnecessary.


> If this designed is agreed, I hope the respective authors will supply screen
> shots and text. Otherwise I will do the best I can. : )

Comments seem out of place on such an overview.

Perhaps there should be separate links to wiki page and Launchpad (or
other download) per theme.


We really should have infrastructure that generates pages like that.


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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Communty Themes Wiki Page

[j_baer]

j_baer wrote:
> 
> As promised I started to to update the Community Themes wiki page. The
> current content is just to see how the page flows.
> 
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JohnBaer/SandBox
> 
> I must warn you it is different as IMO the audience has changed and the
> requirements.
> 
> New audience - I was pleasantly surprised to see this page linked to the
> installation of the "community-themes" package using the Software Center.
> IMO this is spot on! My vision of the page is informative to the user who
> is interested in installing the package (viz. new requirement).
> 
> At the end of the page I envision a short walk through of the installation
> process targeted toward the new user.
> 
> Issues:
> 
> - What is the desired image sized of the screen shot?  IMO one is enough.
> 
> - Is the general format Ok? I removed the Artwork banner as it did not
> seem to fit.
> 
> - The "logo" is my attempt to blend with the new Ubuntu look (e.g. "fish")
> assuming the appearance of the wiki will not change. Other ideas are
> welcomed.
> 
> If this designed is agreed, I hope the respective authors will supply
> screen shots and text. Otherwise I will do the best I can. : )
> 
> My desire is to have this complete and ready by the release candidate.
> 
> John
> 
> 

I added some content to the mockup page for your consideration.

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JohnBaer/SandBox

I realized as I was putting this together I do not know who the authors are
for these submissions. I used the name posted to the last wiki edit but this
may be incorrect. :/

John


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[ubuntu-art] New Communty Themes Wiki Page

[j_baer]

As promised I started to to update the Community Themes wiki page. The
current content is just to see how the page flows.

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JohnBaer/SandBox

I must warn you it is different as IMO the audience has changed and the
requirements.

New audience - I was pleasantly surprised to see this page linked to the
installation of the "community-themes" package using the Software Center.
IMO this is spot on! My vision of the page is informative to the user who is
interested in installing the package (viz. new requirement).

At the end of the page I envision a short walk through of the installation
process targeted toward the new user.

Issues:

- What is the desired image sized of the screen shot?  IMO one is enough.

- Is the general format Ok? I removed the Artwork banner as it did not seem
to fit.

- The "logo" is my attempt to blend with the new Ubuntu look (e.g. "fish")
assuming the appearance of the wiki will not change. Other ideas are
welcomed.

If this designed is agreed, I hope the respective authors will supply screen
shots and text. Otherwise I will do the best I can. : )

My desire is to have this complete and ready by the release candidate.

John

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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Identity

[Jacopo Moronato]

By the way, windows buttons are on the right (tested ten minutes ago).
As Mark Curtis pointed, the new themes are not ready yet...I think there
will be lots of improvements.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Identity

[Hrafn Nordhri]

I happen to like the new font and I wonder when/where I can get a copy.

As far as theme and wallpaper goes.. one of the beauties of Linux in
general is how configurable it is. I've not seen this new theme yet so I
cannot comment.

On Thu, 2010-03-04 at 17:38 -0500, Mark Curtis wrote:
> I really hope that's not the case. If it is, it's awfully arrogant of
> them.
> 
> I feel the theme is like anything else in a development release. First
> put out there for people to point out what works and what doesn't work
> so that it can be tweaked before the final version.
> 
> 
> __
> Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 17:27:50 -0500
> From: svela...@gmail.com
> To: ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] New Identity
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 5:19 PM, Mark Curtis 
> wrote:
> So people should agree with the designers that came up with it
> and not the designers that are specifically spelling out
> what's wrong with it?
> 
> Who says sabdfl knows anything about UX and/or design though?
> 
> 
> I get the feeling that I will get planed here but the way I see it is
> that the design theme hasn't asked for input as they did for 9.10
> boot. This would suggest to me that they have a plan that they are
> happy with, commenting or arguing which colors work/dont work; and the
> rather obnoxious gtk theme (personal opinion) is moot. I prefer to
> only give critique if its asked.
> 
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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Identity

[Mark Curtis]

I really hope that's not the case. If it is, it's awfully arrogant of them.

I feel the theme is like anything else in a development release. First put out 
there for people to point out what works and what doesn't work so that it can 
be tweaked before the final version.

Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 17:27:50 -0500
From: svela...@gmail.com
To: ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] New Identity



On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 5:19 PM, Mark Curtis  wrote:






So people should agree with the designers that came up with it and not the 
designers that are specifically spelling out what's wrong with it?

Who says sabdfl knows anything about UX and/or design though?


I get the feeling that I will get planed here but the way I see it is that the 
design theme hasn't asked for input as they did for 9.10 boot. This would 
suggest to me that they have a plan that they are happy with, commenting or 
arguing which colors work/dont work; and the rather obnoxious gtk theme 
(personal opinion) is moot. I prefer to only give critique if its asked.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Identity

[Saleel Velankar]

On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 5:19 PM, Mark Curtis  wrote:

>  So people should agree with the designers that came up with it and not the
> designers that are specifically spelling out what's wrong with it?
>
> Who says sabdfl knows anything about UX and/or design though?
>

I get the feeling that I will get planed here but the way I see it is that
the design theme hasn't asked for input as they did for 9.10 boot. This
would suggest to me that they have a plan that they are happy with,
commenting or arguing which colors work/dont work; and the rather obnoxious
gtk theme (personal opinion) is moot. I prefer to only give critique if its
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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Identity

[Mark Curtis]

So people should agree with the designers that came up with it and not the 
designers that are specifically spelling out what's wrong with it?

Who says sabdfl knows anything about UX and/or design though?
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 17:16:21 -0500
From: svela...@gmail.com
To: ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] New Identity

Considering some smart people are working on this; I dont see why so many 
people are getting up in a huff about this. I also heard that our dictator is 
also working with the design team and the interface, and if you cant trust him, 
who can you trust?


I would assume that this is start of the rebranding and what we are seeing is 
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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Identity

[Chris Tooley]

On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 4:46 AM, Thorsten Wilms  wrote:
> Hi!
>
> No, I don't have to get rid of stalkers ...
>
> I guess everyone is aware of it already, but if not:
> http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/03/03/refreshing-the-ubuntu-brand/
>
> There are mixed reactions on Slashdot, Digg, Reddit and a few blogs. Our
> own forums receive the price for dumbest thing I found, someone saying
> Aubergine wouldn't be a "professional" color :}

To be fair, I saw that comment on Slashdot as well. I don't understand
where that sentiment comes from...

> Recommended reading (unlike those listed before):
> http://www.kilobitspersecond.com/2010/03/03/the-new-ubuntu-lucid-look-an-appraisal/
> http://troy-sobotka.blogspot.com/2010/03/ubuntu-branding.html

Another good link to understand the reasoning behind the colour schema
was posted by Mr. Shuttleworth on his blag:
http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/308

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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Identity

[Saleel Velankar]

Considering some smart people are working on this; I dont see why so many
people are getting up in a huff about this. I also heard that our dictator
is also working with the design team and the interface, and if you cant
trust him, who can you trust?

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[ubuntu-art] New Identity

[Thorsten Wilms]

Hi!

No, I don't have to get rid of stalkers ...

I guess everyone is aware of it already, but if not:
http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/03/03/refreshing-the-ubuntu-brand/

There are mixed reactions on Slashdot, Digg, Reddit and a few blogs. Our
own forums receive the price for dumbest thing I found, someone saying
Aubergine wouldn't be a "professional" color :}

Recommended reading (unlike those listed before):
http://www.kilobitspersecond.com/2010/03/03/the-new-ubuntu-lucid-look-an-appraisal/
http://troy-sobotka.blogspot.com/2010/03/ubuntu-branding.html

Not much, if anything left for me to say, I pretty much agree with both
of them.


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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Wave question

[Alin-Andrei]

>> Hi,
>>
>> What do you think of the background of the window on the screenshot?
>> (it's a bit like sprayed):
>>
>> http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/1946/31718430.png
>>
>>
>> Would you like such a thing as default?
>>
>> 
>> Anton Kerezov
>> http://ankere.wordpress.com/
>>
>>

>Looks good, Anton.  I like the texture, subtle but different.  Nice
>work.



I for one don't like textures in my theme. Especially in New Wave which is a
polished theme and the texture is rough and seems from a different scenario
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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Wave question

[James Schriver]

On Thu, 2010-02-11 at 17:46 +0200, Anton Kerezov wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> What do you think of the background of the window on the screenshot?
> (it's a bit like sprayed):
> 
> http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/1946/31718430.png
> 
> 
> Would you like such a thing as default?
> 
> 
> Anton Kerezov
> http://ankere.wordpress.com/
> 
> 

Looks good, Anton.  I like the texture, subtle but different.  Nice
work.


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[ubuntu-art] New Wave question

[Anton Kerezov]

Hi,

What do you think of the background of the window on the screenshot?
(it's a bit like sprayed):

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/1946/31718430.png


Would you like such a thing as default?


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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Wave Brainstorm

[Nate Wiebe]

The progress bars are looking MUCH better. Keep up the awesome work.

-NateW

> From: ank...@gmail.com
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> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 21:15:52 +0200
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] New Wave Brainstorm
> 
> В 13:15 -0400 на 25.01.2010 (пн), Nate Wiebe написа:
> > I like this version very much. It looks great except for the progress
> > bars. I'm not a fan of the black stripes.
> > Small note, the vertical progress bars don't seem to be working
> > properly yet.
> 
> If I use any kind of overlay the vertiical progressbars won't look good
> but on the other hand I have not seen many (in fact none) apps that use
> it.
> 
> Now the progressbar looks different but I'm still not totaly happy with
> it so I'll redesign it more (attached current).
> 
> 
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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Wave Brainstorm

[Nate Wiebe]

I like this version very much. It looks great except for the progress bars. I'm 
not a fan of the black stripes.
Small note, the vertical progress bars don't seem to be working properly yet.

-NateW



> From: ank...@gmail.com
> To: ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com
> Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 21:32:58 +0200
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] New Wave Brainstorm
> 
> В 17:38 + на 23.01.2010 (сб), rugby471 написа:
> > Could you give a link to this version? It would be easier to test the
> > difference with the actual gtk theme (unless this is a mockup)
> 
> Sure give it a try, it's attached.
> 
> 
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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Wave Brainstorm

[Andrew]

On 23/01/10 19:32, Anton Kerezov wrote:
> В 17:38 + на 23.01.2010 (сб), rugby471 написа:
>> Could you give a link to this version? It would be easier to test the
>> difference with the actual gtk theme (unless this is a mockup)
> 
> Sure give it a try, it's attached.
> 
> 
> Anton Kerezov
> http://ankere.wordpress.com/
> 
 I think it is very good!

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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Wave Brainstorm

[rugby471]

Could you give a link to this version? It would be easier to test the
difference with the actual gtk theme (unless this is a mockup)

On 23 January 2010 09:30, Anton Kerezov  wrote:
> Here you can see the image and tell me what do you think. Could this
> replace the default New Wave or should it be a separate theme?
>
> http://wp.me/pAQvt-28
>
> 
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[ubuntu-art] New Wave Brainstorm

[Anton Kerezov]

Here you can see the image and tell me what do you think. Could this
replace the default New Wave or should it be a separate theme?

http://wp.me/pAQvt-28


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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Wave Plasma

[Saleel Velankar]

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Anton Kerezov  wrote:

> About that tabs you have shown - they are good but try to make the
> images of the selected one a bit transparent so that it merges better
> with it's surroundings. It would also be good to not use so strong
> borders at the edges. Maybe if it looked as if it is inside the outer
> border for the other tabs would be better.
>
> Actually the outside box is still the default air frame I think, but I will
work on this today.

>
> I attach two svg with example design. What do you  Would they be of any
> good to you?
>
YES! both these seem doable, I will do these today.thanks to the svgs half
the work is done already :)

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