Re: [ubuntu-art] Second version of Union mockup
Good themes and alternative, principaly the last one... 2007/12/30, Ken Vermette [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The second version of the Union mockup is up, with sources and alternate wallpapers. Widgets will be coming in the next upload, within the next few days. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/Union Anyway, suggestions, comments, all is fair game. Please explain any suggestions in detail so I know the logic behind it, and how to best implement ideas. Heads-up that mid-January I'm going to be unavailable for about 3 months, and afterwards I'll be spotty for another literal year. After the 3-month mark I will be making updates, but they will be nowhere near as frequent. Cheers! -Ken Vermette -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Second version of Union mockup
The second version of the Union mockup is up, with sources and alternate wallpapers. Widgets will be coming in the next upload, within the next few days. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/Union Anyway, suggestions, comments, all is fair game. Please explain any suggestions in detail so I know the logic behind it, and how to best implement ideas. Heads-up that mid-January I'm going to be unavailable for about 3 months, and afterwards I'll be spotty for another literal year. After the 3-month mark I will be making updates, but they will be nowhere near as frequent. Cheers! -Ken Vermette -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Second version of Union mockup
Nice one Ken! Keep up the good work. В нд, 2007-12-30 в 09:09 -0500, Ken Vermette написа: The second version of the Union mockup is up, with sources and alternate wallpapers. Widgets will be coming in the next upload, within the next few days. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/Union Anyway, suggestions, comments, all is fair game. Please explain any suggestions in detail so I know the logic behind it, and how to best implement ideas. Heads-up that mid-January I'm going to be unavailable for about 3 months, and afterwards I'll be spotty for another literal year. After the 3-month mark I will be making updates, but they will be nowhere near as frequent. Cheers! -Ken Vermette -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Second version of Union mockup
I wasn't 100% with this mockup originally, but now I love it! Those colour changes are well chosen. Those fancy panel icons would be quite a pile of work, however. With an effect like that, it's can be either all of them or none of them, and there are *a lot* of programs that put themselves in the notification area. Having said that, it would be very cool if unimportant (and inactive) notifications faded into the background, while they used the colourful images we see today when active. However, that sounds more like a code matter... Perhaps that effect would be happier being implemented in code, since on that end it can be implemented for everything, including unofficial applications. One thing important to look at is menu bars that are not directly within windows. GTK decided that menu bars should be independent widgets, (which is good thinking in some ways, but definitely limits some of the cool possibilities of menus that know what window they belong to) so those menus could theoretically be anywhere. Granted, they are usually on the top, but extra use cases would be safe. Nick Telford makes a good point about text areas. Have you put much pondering into those? What are those three buttons you have on the bottom of your windows? Looks like an interesting window management feature that could be implemented by an Ubuntu-side GTK hack... Speaking of effects, I think you could do with a tad less alpha on unfocussed windows. People often look at two or three windows at once for some tasks, and them being so transparent could well make that undoable. Perhaps if that Pin button (which I believe you have on the status bars there) was implemented somewhere, we could better expect people to use the feature. Then, if a window was pinned and unfocussed, it would not have the same transparent effect. (Again, I am not up on how themes work, so please forgive my ignorance!). Keep up the amazing work, Ken! Everyone likes SVGs, so I see a very good chance of this mockup making it as a mainified (mainly? mained?) theme. Bye, -Dylan McCall On Dec 30, 2007 7:57 AM, Anton Kerezov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice one Ken! Keep up the good work. В нд, 2007-12-30 в 09:09 -0500, Ken Vermette написа: The second version of the Union mockup is up, with sources and alternate wallpapers. Widgets will be coming in the next upload, within the next few days. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/Union Anyway, suggestions, comments, all is fair game. Please explain any suggestions in detail so I know the logic behind it, and how to best implement ideas. Heads-up that mid-January I'm going to be unavailable for about 3 months, and afterwards I'll be spotty for another literal year. After the 3-month mark I will be making updates, but they will be nowhere near as frequent. Cheers! -Ken Vermette -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Second version of Union mockup
I concur, this is really polishing up nice! Are we at the point where people can start putting something together in gtk and metacity? Also what would the mouse over look like for the minimise/un-maxi/maximise/close? and would it be better to stick with the traditional visual metaphor for min/unmax/max/close? I find the current set in the designs (the plus and minus) a little confusing as to what their function exactly is. Regards matt Dylan McCall wrote: I wasn't 100% with this mockup originally, but now I love it! Those colour changes are well chosen. Those fancy panel icons would be quite a pile of work, however. With an effect like that, it's can be either all of them or none of them, and there are /a lot/ of programs that put themselves in the notification area. Having said that, it would be very cool if unimportant (and inactive) notifications faded into the background, while they used the colourful images we see today when active. However, that sounds more like a code matter... Perhaps that effect would be happier being implemented in code, since on that end it can be implemented for everything, including unofficial applications. One thing important to look at is menu bars that are not directly within windows. GTK decided that menu bars should be independent widgets, (which is good thinking in some ways, but definitely limits some of the cool possibilities of menus that know what window they belong to) so those menus could theoretically be anywhere. Granted, they are usually on the top, but extra use cases would be safe. Nick Telford makes a good point about text areas. Have you put much pondering into those? What are those three buttons you have on the bottom of your windows? Looks like an interesting window management feature that could be implemented by an Ubuntu-side GTK hack... Speaking of effects, I think you could do with a tad less alpha on unfocussed windows. People often look at two or three windows at once for some tasks, and them being so transparent could well make that undoable. Perhaps if that Pin button (which I believe you have on the status bars there) was implemented somewhere, we could better expect people to use the feature. Then, if a window was pinned and unfocussed, it would not have the same transparent effect. (Again, I am not up on how themes work, so please forgive my ignorance!). Keep up the amazing work, Ken! Everyone likes SVGs, so I see a very good chance of this mockup making it as a mainified (mainly? mained?) theme. Bye, -Dylan McCall -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Second version of Union mockup
On Dec 30, 2007 11:37 PM, Matthew McGowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find the current set in the designs (the plus and minus) a little confusing as to what their function exactly is. +1 Regards matt Dylan McCall wrote: I wasn't 100% with this mockup originally, but now I love it! Those colour changes are well chosen. Those fancy panel icons would be quite a pile of work, however. With an effect like that, it's can be either all of them or none of them, and there are /a lot/ of programs that put themselves in the notification area. Having said that, it would be very cool if unimportant (and inactive) notifications faded into the background, while they used the colourful images we see today when active. However, that sounds more like a code matter... Perhaps that effect would be happier being implemented in code, since on that end it can be implemented for everything, including unofficial applications. One thing important to look at is menu bars that are not directly within windows. GTK decided that menu bars should be independent widgets, (which is good thinking in some ways, but definitely limits some of the cool possibilities of menus that know what window they belong to) so those menus could theoretically be anywhere. Granted, they are usually on the top, but extra use cases would be safe. Nick Telford makes a good point about text areas. Have you put much pondering into those? What are those three buttons you have on the bottom of your windows? Looks like an interesting window management feature that could be implemented by an Ubuntu-side GTK hack... Speaking of effects, I think you could do with a tad less alpha on unfocussed windows. People often look at two or three windows at once for some tasks, and them being so transparent could well make that undoable. Perhaps if that Pin button (which I believe you have on the status bars there) was implemented somewhere, we could better expect people to use the feature. Then, if a window was pinned and unfocussed, it would not have the same transparent effect. (Again, I am not up on how themes work, so please forgive my ignorance!). Keep up the amazing work, Ken! Everyone likes SVGs, so I see a very good chance of this mockup making it as a mainified (mainly? mained?) theme. Bye, -Dylan McCall -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Second version of Union mockup
I think as long as the widgets are done correctly they'll look good; I'm basing the widgets, very much like the rest of the theme, off of the Murrine per-pixel-alpha demonstration image and Basic ideals; although the widgets will be more flat. I also kind of want to stick close to the Murrine alpha demonstration (in terms of widgets) because if this theme is fully done, it means that there will probably be less bugs until per-pixel-alpha matures. The three buttons running on the bottom-left of windows are for less-used, but helpful actions. I don't know how possible they are, but I figure it makes no sense to pack the entire topside of a window with buttons when the bottom is practically untouched. All of the 3 buttons are on/off, and in order they are: Roll up, Above other windows, Tack/Sticky. I drew the tack backwards (doh!) I agree about the transparency with the inactive window; it needs much more opacity. On the orange background I use it looks less apparent; but you can really see it on every other background. The + - is there mostly because I wanted something other than the Vista look, but I'll make some new buttons that hopefully explain what they do, while avoiding vista-like icons. I'm unsure on how they'll look when th user mouse-overs, but they will have a green/yellow/red glow if I can make it look good. I'll have an update tomorrow with the changes, and possibly widgets. I'll also mock-up calculator and another basic program so we'll see how an actual program might look. Thanks everyone! -- Ken V On Dec 30, 2007 2:41 PM, Nicolas Deschildre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 30, 2007 11:37 PM, Matthew McGowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find the current set in the designs (the plus and minus) a little confusing as to what their function exactly is. +1 Regards matt Dylan McCall wrote: I wasn't 100% with this mockup originally, but now I love it! Those colour changes are well chosen. Those fancy panel icons would be quite a pile of work, however. With an effect like that, it's can be either all of them or none of them, and there are /a lot/ of programs that put themselves in the notification area. Having said that, it would be very cool if unimportant (and inactive) notifications faded into the background, while they used the colourful images we see today when active. However, that sounds more like a code matter... Perhaps that effect would be happier being implemented in code, since on that end it can be implemented for everything, including unofficial applications. One thing important to look at is menu bars that are not directly within windows. GTK decided that menu bars should be independent widgets, (which is good thinking in some ways, but definitely limits some of the cool possibilities of menus that know what window they belong to) so those menus could theoretically be anywhere. Granted, they are usually on the top, but extra use cases would be safe. Nick Telford makes a good point about text areas. Have you put much pondering into those? What are those three buttons you have on the bottom of your windows? Looks like an interesting window management feature that could be implemented by an Ubuntu-side GTK hack... Speaking of effects, I think you could do with a tad less alpha on unfocussed windows. People often look at two or three windows at once for some tasks, and them being so transparent could well make that undoable. Perhaps if that Pin button (which I believe you have on the status bars there) was implemented somewhere, we could better expect people to use the feature. Then, if a window was pinned and unfocussed, it would not have the same transparent effect. (Again, I am not up on how themes work, so please forgive my ignorance!). Keep up the amazing work, Ken! Everyone likes SVGs, so I see a very good chance of this mockup making it as a mainified (mainly? mained?) theme. Bye, -Dylan McCall -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
