[ubuntu-art] Shiki-Colors
Hi, This is the first time I post here and I'm not used to this type of forum interface, so forgive me if this post doesn't come out correctly or conform to the standards of this mailing list. I read the previous threads and comments about my theme Shiki-Colors, and I'm glad that the people here liked it, and may even consider it for Ubuntu. Since I'm a heavy Ubuntu user/proposer myself, I thought I'd modify my theme a bit to make it more conservative (friendlier to the general user) and warmer (to better fit Ubuntu's look). You can find a screenshot of the modified theme here (Using my gnome-human icons): http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/4993/screenshotrn3.png The most noticeable changes are: -Menus/Menubars are light. While this takes a bit away from the original appeal of the theme, it is much more compatible and way less buggy with non-gtk apps (firefox 3). -Warmer bg colors. -Metacity has been hacked a bit. It now has 2px borders (can be changed to 3 or 4 if needed). The outline is still just 1px, but this makes it a lot more comfortable to resize. You can download the theme here (needs murrine SVN from intrepid to render progressbars): http://rapidshare.com/files/135863252/Shiki-Ubuntu_0.4.tar.gz.html Other things that could be changed is making menu items/selected base lighter, with dark text. I'll leave those changes up to the opinions I receive. Also, I think I could improve the metacity titlebar further, since it's no longer unified and doesn't need to blend in with the menubar. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Shiki-Colors
On Fri, 2008-08-08 at 14:22 -0400, Vadim Peretokin wrote: Jumping to this theme straight from Human made things so much more gray and sad. Wish the general color of a window (gray background) could be lightened up more. I have tried lighter backgrounds (like those in my clearlooks-colors themes) but so far, the current background seems to be the lightest I can make it while keeping good widget contrast and complimenting the theme's dark aspects. It could possibly be made warmer, though, so human refugees would feel more at home. Either way, the default colors should be easily changed in GNOME's appearance preferences. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Shiki-Colors
2008/8/8 Victor [EMAIL PROTECTED] The most noticeable changes are: -Menus/Menubars are light. While this takes a bit away from the original appeal of the theme, it is much more compatible and way less buggy with non-gtk apps (firefox 3). I personally would would rather you kept it as it is already with respect to this, Firefox 3 seems fine to me and it is a very big factor in the appeal of the theme, Also I think the theme would be nicer with the scrollbar in the gray/brown colour and the contrast would help discern it against the light background. Michael -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Shiki-Colors
After using it a bit and giving it to my mom and younger sister to you, the tiny _[]X buttons became a really big usability problem. The Human buttons were nice a big, and these are so tiny - they're actually having troubles clicking on it (and much frustration at not being able to do such a basic thing). I set the Window background color to #F2ECE5, and it looks a lot better. Can you give that a try? -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Shiki-Colors
I personally would would rather you kept it as it is already with respect to this, Firefox 3 seems fine to me and it is a very big factor in the appeal of the theme, Also I think the theme would be nicer with the scrollbar in the gray/brown colour and the contrast would help discern it against the light background. Michael Ok, I'll try to add the dark menu bar again. Maybe I can figure out a way to avoid the firefox bug. (The bug is that if you click on the star icon to bookmark a page, the background comes out dark but the widgets are light and the text is dark, making it unreadable). So far having light menus is the only solution I can find, but since firefox uses menu item text color for menu-bars, you can't have dark menu-bars paired with light menus. Also, what color would you suggest for the scrollbar? I've tried a few, but the current one is the only one that matches other widgets or look too saturated.Zzz -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Shiki-Colors
On Fri, 2008-08-08 at 15:22 -0400, Vadim Peretokin wrote: After using it a bit and giving it to my mom and younger sister to you, the tiny _[]X buttons became a really big usability problem. The Human buttons were nice a big, and these are so tiny - they're actually having troubles clicking on it (and much frustration at not being able to do such a basic thing). I set the Window background color to #F2ECE5, and it looks a lot better. Can you give that a try? I'll try an in-between color. Probably something like E4DED8. I'll also try making a new metacity without pixmap buttons. It should be larger and easier to click, at the cost of some elegance. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Shiki-Colors
Well, keep in mind that you're aiming for the default theme here. Elegance is for themes sitting on gnome-look or ubuntu-art :) -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Shiki-Colors
В 15:23 -0400 на 08.08.2008 (пт), Victor написа: Ok, I'll try to add the dark menu bar again. Maybe I can figure out a way to avoid the firefox bug. (The bug is that if you click on the star icon to bookmark a page, the background comes out dark but the widgets are light and the text is dark, making it unreadable). So far having light menus is the only solution I can find, but since firefox uses menu item text color for menu-bars, you can't have dark menu-bars paired with light menus. Have a look at the Known issues topic here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/NewWave There you will find a file I made to fix the FF issue in my theme at least partially. Keep up the good work! Anton -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Shiki-Colors
On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 1:01 PM, Victor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, This is the first time I post here and I'm not used to this type of forum interface, so forgive me if this post doesn't come out correctly or conform to the standards of this mailing list. Welcome. Remember to create art that you love and don't take criticism too hard. I read the previous threads and comments about my theme Shiki-Colors, and I'm glad that the people here liked it, and may even consider it for Ubuntu. The people who reply to messages on this list don't get to control what theme gets enabled by default. That said, if there were a vote I'd vote for yours as having a the most promise. You can find a screenshot of the modified theme here http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/4993/screenshotrn3.png The most noticeable changes are: -Menus/Menubars are light. While this takes a bit away from the original appeal of the theme, it is much more compatible and way less buggy with non-gtk apps (firefox 3). -Warmer bg colors. -Metacity has been hacked a bit. It now has 2px borders (can be changed to 3 or 4 if needed). The outline is still just 1px, but this makes it a lot more comfortable to resize. I will try out your changes later tonight, I wanted to post this though maybe you've fixed it with the lighter menus: http://code.bearfruit.org/~matt/firefox-shiki.png This is a picture of firefox. You'll see that I've dragged my bookmarks toolbar up to the right of the Help menu. Therefore the dark text is barely readable. Also, you can see the location drop down in that image is very very hard to read because of the dark background. I will have some users test the narrow window borders. Visually I think they look very good. There has been discussion about the narrow borders making it difficult to resize windows - I think that's possible but it may not actually hamper people in real life. Testing will tell for sure. Keep up the good work. I'd suggest creating an Ubuntu .deb package for your theme and icons for intrepid (or hardy) so that people can install it easily even if it doesn't go to main. It's one of the nicest contributed themes and is one of the most usable dark themes I've found. There are only a few people here who have created .deb files successfully so doing so would not only brand you as an extraordinary artist but also land you among the ubuntu art-team elite. Recent instructions can be found here: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/2008-July/007043.html posted by José Luis (thanks José!). They look simple enough. -- Matthew Nuzum newz2000 on freenode -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Shiki-Colors
On Fri, 2008-08-08 at 16:36 -0500, Matthew Nuzum wrote: I will try out your changes later tonight, I wanted to post this though maybe you've fixed it with the lighter menus: http://code.bearfruit.org/~matt/firefox-shiki.png Yes, all the Firefox issues should be fixed in the version that uses light menus. The bugs only come out in the regular version. I think 2px is quite usable for the borders, but it can be increased if need be. I made it so the outline is always 1px, though, so thicker borders shouldn't necessarily mean bad. Thanks for the suggestions, later tonight I will follow the guide you mentioned and try to make .debs for my themes and icons. If possible, I'll try to keep 2 editions of Shiki-Ubuntu; one with light menus/menubars with large metacity buttons that is bug-proof and family-proof, and a regular one that is stylish, but imperfect due to GNOME's current limitations. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Shiki-Colors
Other things that could be changed is making menu items/selected base lighter, with dark text. I'll leave those changes up to the opinions I receive. Also, I think I could improve the metacity titlebar further, since it's no longer unified and doesn't need to blend in with the menubar. Yeah, with the hovered menu items (where the background goes that orange colour), the text should be black. It's too hard to read at the moment. Also, it might be an idea to make your orange colour a bit more orange and less yellow, that's just my opinion though. Other then that, your improvements look brilliant! Keep up the good job, Nicholas (LostOverThere) -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Shiki-Colors
On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 6:14 PM, Victor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think 2px is quite usable for the borders, but it can be increased if need be. I made it so the outline is always 1px, though, so thicker borders shouldn't necessarily mean bad. First test: fail. :-( I set it up for my wife and asked her to resize a window while I watched. She went right for the side and couldn't grab it in a few seconds and several tries because she was waiting for the cursor to change to the resize handle and the hit area was so small she kept overshooting. She resorted to resizing by moving the window around and then using the upper corner. So in a sense she did succeed but we effectively made resizing windows more difficult. Of note is the fact that she was using a laptop with a trackpad. I think it's a bit harder to be precise with this pointing device. I'll do a little more testing, maybe on Sunday I'll have a chance. Even if every tester fails I'm not 100% sure that means we should go to wider borders. If I remember correctly, some operating systems force users to use the bottom right corner to resize and users adapt just fine, though maybe not in the first 8 seconds. -- Matthew Nuzum newz2000 on freenode -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Shiki-Colors
There is a new theme added to gnome-look called Shiki-Colors. The theme looks very interesting (and quite similar to the New Wave idea). Preview is available at - http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=2id=86717file1=86717-1.jpgfile2=86717-2.jpgfile3=86717-3.jpgname=Shiki-Colors The actual theme page is at - http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Shiki-Colors?content=86717 Looks like the theme as two variants - one which depends on murrine SVN and one which is pure clearlooks. Do take a look at it. Bharat Varma -- d-_-b -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Shiki-Colors
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Bharat Varma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a new theme added to gnome-look called Shiki-Colors. The theme looks very interesting (and quite similar to the New Wave idea). Preview is available at - http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=2id=86717file1=86717-1.jpgfile2=86717-2.jpgfile3=86717-3.jpgname=Shiki-Colors The actual theme page is at - http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Shiki-Colors?content=86717 I wonder if this theme circumvents the refocusing problem I mentioned observing with dark themes. It uses dark window chrome and pannels but the lighter gray for the toolbars. -- Matthew Nuzum newz2000 on freenode -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Shiki-Colors
I don't really like all of the gray. It's possibly the least exciting color their is, nevermind that it's already associated with another OS. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Shiki-Colors
Bharat Varma wrote: There is a new theme added to gnome-look called Shiki-Colors. The theme looks very interesting (and quite similar to the New Wave idea). Preview is available at - http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=2id=86717file1=86717-1.jpgfile2=86717-2.jpgfile3=86717-3.jpgname=Shiki-Colors http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=2id=86717file1=86717-1.jpgfile2=86717-2.jpgfile3=86717-3.jpgname=Shiki-Colors The actual theme page is at - http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Shiki-Colors?content=86717 Looks like the theme as two variants - one which depends on murrine SVN and one which is pure clearlooks. Do take a look at it. Bharat Varma -- d-_-b This is *very* close to some of the suggestions I talked to Ken about. With some tweaks, this could be default IMO. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Shiki-Colors
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 1:11 PM, Vadim Peretokin [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I don't really like all of the gray. It's possibly the least exciting color their is, nevermind that it's already associated with another OS. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art When you think about it, though... gray is great because there can be a lot of contrast, yet it can still be completely readable. Plus it goes with anything. When I do web design I try to add color to everything but what absolutely must be readable (with exceptions, of course). There will be colors in the header, the background for the main page, images, etc. When it comes to the content it's usually non exciting. Black on white, or vice versa... or even just shades of gray. I think we should try to get our colors into places that they can be without having to worry about stuff. The orange and brown could be dealt with primarily in the wallpaper, panels, emerald/metacity theme, and icons. The GTK part should be as boring as possible to an extent, so as to make it as readable as possible. One of the best things about Ubuntu is choice. There have been a lot of excellet ideas thrown out here like Kith, Kin, this theme, and many more (sorry for not mentioning them all by name). The default theme though should be something that is acceptable to everyone. I'd love to see a somewhat boring(ish) default theme, with themes like Kith, Kin, UbuntuStudio (whatever they're doing), Blubuntu, etc. in the appearance menu. If we removed a few screensavers, we could add quite a few themes and wallpaers. I think this would go a long way toward putting Ubuntu ahead of Mac, because they don't have a lot of choice in what their OS looks like. Just my 2 cents. Gmail kinda messed up half way through this, I'm prety sure I won't be top posting, but if I am I apologize. -- David Mikucki -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Shiki-Colors
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 1:23 PM, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *snip* The default theme though should be something that is acceptable to everyone. If we go by that, then let's stick with 8.04 human one, as that one is acceptable by everyone quite well do (and it gets originality points!). I thought the promised changed were so that it would be something that excited everyone. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Shiki-Colors
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 11:17 AM, Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is *very* close to some of the suggestions I talked to Ken about. With some tweaks, this could be default IMO. I like it. No gloss. A lack of thick borders. Clean. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Shiki-Colors
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 1:35 PM, Vadim Peretokin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 1:23 PM, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The default theme though should be something that is acceptable to everyone. If we go by that, then let's stick with 8.04 human one, as that one is acceptable by everyone quite well do (and it gets originality points!). I thought the promised changed were so that it would be something that excited everyone. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art I don't think that sticking with the human thing is necessary. I guess I'm just saying that we shouldn't get to carried away with the new theme. Although if Shiki-Colors is stable and works with all programs, I don't have any problem with it being used. I don't know what I'm saying, haha. I really do think it is a good idea to have other (more exciting than the default) GTK themes available in the appearance manager, or through some sort of download application or web page (even a simple link in the appearance manager?). -- David Mikucki -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Shiki-Colors
There is a new theme added to gnome-look called Shiki-Colors. The theme looks very interesting (and quite similar to the New Wave idea). Preview is available at - http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=2id=86717file1=86717-1.jpgfile2=86717-2.jpgfile3=86717-3.jpgname=Shiki-Colors The actual theme page is at - http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Shiki-Colors?content=86717 Looks like the theme as two variants - one which depends on murrine SVN and one which is pure clearlooks. Do take a look at it. Nice! The only thing bothering me is the cap over title bars. It is busy and does not deliver any extra functionality. Perhaps if it had that highlight on the bottom instead, which would make it easier to resize windows. (Currently a difficult task with thin borders). I do see the benefit of that cap to highlight the focused window, of course. If it didn't obstruct the title text, for example just a thin coloured border at the top, I would have less of a problem with it. I always like seeing a theme that does away with the totally unnecessary thick window borders, though :) Bye, -Dylan -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Shiki-Colors
David wrote: The default theme though should be something that is acceptable to everyone. No. That will only result in the most drab, watered-down, corporate theme imaginable. We aim at our target audience while coming up with something stylish. Alienating people because of a theme should not be taken so heavily. People who want boring can use Clearlooks. Which IMO is the GNOME equivalent of WIn98. Drab and strait-forward. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Shiki-Colors
I have installed the theme and modified the Window background color to a more gilouche-ish shade (#FBF9F5) I have attached a few screenshots - Setup - Hardy Heron, Liberation Fonts, White on Black Terminal profile with a slight transparency, the suggested icons (gnome-colors icons). 1. Nautilus window on desktop - http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?image=desktopnautilushc7.png 2. Menus - http://img359.imageshack.us/my.php?image=menusqh3.png 3. Terminal - http://img378.imageshack.us/my.php?image=terminaluj8.png 4. Widget Factory - http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=widgetfactoryej6.png I am impressed by this theme. There are still a few quirks to be ironed out, but by and large it is a well done theme. -- d-_-b -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Shiki-Colors
Bharat Varma wrote: There is a new theme added to gnome-look called Shiki-Colors. The theme looks very interesting (and quite similar to the New Wave idea). Preview is available at - http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=2id=86717file1=86717-1.jpgfile2=86717-2.jpgfile3=86717-3.jpgname=Shiki-Colors http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=2id=86717file1=86717-1.jpgfile2=86717-2.jpgfile3=86717-3.jpgname=Shiki-Colors The actual theme page is at - http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Shiki-Colors?content=86717 Looks like the theme as two variants - one which depends on murrine SVN and one which is pure clearlooks. Do take a look at it. Bharat Varma -- d-_-b Another major thing that has to change is the widths on the side /bottom borders. 1px makes it a pain to grab and you'll get bugs for sure on it. If you're open to make some changes I'll help you on it. I'll tinker myself now as well. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Shiki-Colors
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 11:36 PM, Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bharat Varma wrote: There is a new theme added to gnome-look called Shiki-Colors. The theme looks very interesting (and quite similar to the New Wave idea). Preview is available at - http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=2id=86717file1=86717-1.jpgfile2=86717-2.jpgfile3=86717-3.jpgname=Shiki-Colors http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=2id=86717file1=86717-1.jpgfile2=86717-2.jpgfile3=86717-3.jpgname=Shiki-Colors The actual theme page is at - http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Shiki-Colors?content=86717 Looks like the theme as two variants - one which depends on murrine SVN and one which is pure clearlooks. Do take a look at it. Bharat Varma -- d-_-b Another major thing that has to change is the widths on the side /bottom borders. 1px makes it a pain to grab and you'll get bugs for sure on it. If you're open to make some changes I'll help you on it. I'll tinker myself now as well. Sorry, I didn't write the theme. I merely found it on gnome-look. : ) This is the original author - http://www.gnome-look.org/usermanager/search.php?username=perfectska04PHPSESSID=0bb52fd89696e80ad9c8b136fc9472c0 -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- d-_-b -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Shiki-Colors
I have installed the theme and modified the Window background color to a more gilouche-ish shade (#FBF9F5) I have attached a few screenshots - Setup - Hardy Heron, Liberation Fonts, White on Black Terminal profile with a slight transparency, the suggested icons (gnome-colors icons). 1. Nautilus window on desktop - http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?image=desktopnautilushc7.png 2. Menus - http://img359.imageshack.us/my.php?image=menusqh3.png 3. Terminal - http://img378.imageshack.us/my.php?image=terminaluj8.png 4. Widget Factory - http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=widgetfactoryej6.png I am impressed by this theme. There are still a few quirks to be ironed out, but by and large it is a well done theme. -- d-_-b -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Shiki-Colors
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 1:50 PM, Bharat Varma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have installed the theme and modified the Window background color to a more gilouche-ish shade (#FBF9F5) I have attached a few screenshots - Setup - Hardy Heron, Liberation Fonts, White on Black Terminal profile with a slight transparency, the suggested icons (gnome-colors icons). Oh, now those screenshots are impressive! Much better than the gray. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
