Re: [ubuntu-art] tango-icon-theme CVS version

2006-05-23 Thread Étienne Bersac

 I agree!
me too.
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Re: [ubuntu-art] tango-icon-theme CVS version

2006-05-22 Thread Billy




On Mon, 2006-05-22 at 13:02 +0200, Lapo Calamandrei wrote:

Hi people,

since Jimmac recently changed most of the shadows in tango-icon-theme with less stylized ones and since I don't know if a new release of tango will be made in time for dapper, I propose to ship a fresh cvs version. I know it's not nice to ship unreleased stuff, but tango icon theme really is a bunch of icons so I don't see any stability issue with that ;-). What do you think about it? 

Ciao
Lapo


I agree!


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Re: [ubuntu-art] tango icons request

2006-04-14 Thread Manu Cornet

Hi !

  http://www.manucornet.net/ubuntu/dev/update_big.png
 
 the red is very attracting. So I would suggest that this icon could be a
 replacement for the update-notifier notification icon rather than the
 update-manager menu icon.

Sorry, I misunderstood your first request. This icon is, indeed, made
for update-notifier, not update-manager. Woops :)

Manu


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Re: [ubuntu-art] tango icons request

2006-04-14 Thread Julian Oliver
..on Fri, Apr 14, 2006 at 07:36:59AM +0200, Sebastian Heinlein wrote:
 Am Donnerstag, den 13.04.2006, 21:18 +0200 schrieb Manu Cornet:
  Hi !
  
   it would be nice to have a tangerine icon for the update-manager
  
  FYI, I made a try at this a few weeks ago :
  
  http://www.manucornet.net/ubuntu/dev/update_big.png
  
  Cheers,
  Manu
 
 
 Hi Manu,
 
 the red is very attracting. So I would suggest that this icon could be a
 replacement for the update-notifier notification icon rather than the
 update-manager menu icon.

agreed. in most user interfaces, whether physical or digital, the colour red 
is used to signify stop, warning, cancel, close or alert. 

using this icon for the update-manager would suggest that updating is somehow 
dangerous.

julian

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Re: [ubuntu-art] tango icons request

2006-04-14 Thread Andreas Nilsson

Sebastian Heinlein wrote:

hello beloved artists and designers,

it would be nice to have a tangerine icon for the update-manager and the
software properties, too. the tango one seems to be too generic and the
current one can be hardly identified at small sizes.
  

By the tango-one, do you mean this one?
http://tango-project.org/static/cvs/tango-icon-theme/scalable/apps/system-software-update.png
And by the current one you mean the ubuntu-disc and the globe, right?
Just to get clear on what icons we are talking about (it's easy to mix 
stuff up).


Anyway, I'll try to get the one from tango into tangerine asap (as there 
are currently two actions in the Administration menu using the 
disc-and-globe icon and that is pretty confusing), and if anything 
better shows up I'll use that instead.

- Andreas


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[ubuntu-art] tango icons request

2006-04-13 Thread Sebastian Heinlein
hello beloved artists and designers,

it would be nice to have a tangerine icon for the update-manager and the
software properties, too. the tango one seems to be too generic and the
current one can be hardly identified at small sizes.

we changed to the term channel for software repositories. perhaps
anyone could find a nice metaphor for the preferences.

thanks and regards,

sebastian

p.s. i really get a bad conscience


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Re: [ubuntu-art] tango icons request

2006-04-13 Thread Sebastian Heinlein
Am Donnerstag, den 13.04.2006, 21:18 +0200 schrieb Manu Cornet:
 Hi !
 
  it would be nice to have a tangerine icon for the update-manager
 
 FYI, I made a try at this a few weeks ago :
 
   http://www.manucornet.net/ubuntu/dev/update_big.png
 
 Cheers,
 Manu


Hi Manu,

the red is very attracting. So I would suggest that this icon could be a
replacement for the update-notifier notification icon rather than the
update-manager menu icon.

Sebastian


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Re: [ubuntu-art] Tango

2005-10-19 Thread volvoguy
On 10/19/05, Frédéric van der Essen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Have you heard about the Tango Project ?
 they aim at making a consistant and cross desktops icon theme.

Yep. Lofty goal.

 Their current work looks very good, and IMO a project like that is a very 
 good idea.

I only saw bits and pieces so far, as it was /.'ed the day I visited. :o)

 Should we
 - Ignore tango and continue working on Humanity (if there is still work being 
 done on it ) ?
 - creating a tango compatible humanity theme ?
 - converting the tango theme to ubuntu color palette ?
 - using the tango theme as it is ?

The bits I was able to read about it, it didn't look like it fit
entirely with with the look and feel goals of Ubuntu (as defined
more by Canonical than the art team at this point). I think it may be
a good source of idea gathering and sharing, but perhaps not
completely signing on to say Ubuntu will use this Tango Desktop in
it's entirety. I haven't caught Andrew online in AGES, but as far as I
know, he's still working on the Humanity icons. As far as GTK/Metacity
themes go, I personally think Clearlook will be hard to beat as far as
usability and simplicity goes, but there's always room for more
options. The same goes for colors. In the future I'd rather it be said
that there's a default Ubuntu color palette, but make a whole lot
more color variations available than the default. I haven't done any
themes yet, but I think right now that means creating a whole new
theme and recoloring the bitmaps by hand. Perhaps when themes are
vector based, infinite color variations of one theme will be possible
without having millions of themes installed.

I guess I'm kinda dodging the issue. :o) FWIW, I emailed the guys and
told them who I was and that I would be keeping a keen eye on their
progress. Just as we borrow bits from Debian, Gnome, art.gnome.org,
perhaps that's the kind of relationship we'll have with the Tango
folks, because I honestly can't see Ubuntu switching it's unique look
over to something standardized like that if it's only for the sake of
aesthetics.

My $.02

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Tango

2005-10-19 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi,
Am Mittwoch, den 19.10.2005, 22:51 +1000 schrieb Pascal Klein:
 Nevertheless, when the time comes that Tango is finished I think it would be 
 a 
 lovely idea to include is as is; The Tango set. It can be shipped like 
 normal. :)
a snapshot package with the current tango icon theme is already in
breezy...

ciao
oli


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Re: [ubuntu-art] Tango

2005-10-19 Thread Matthew Nuzum
On 10/19/05, Oliver Grawert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 hi,
 Am Mittwoch, den 19.10.2005, 22:51 +1000 schrieb Pascal Klein:
  Nevertheless, when the time comes that Tango is finished I think it would 
  be a
  lovely idea to include is as is; The Tango set. It can be shipped like
  normal. :)
 a snapshot package with the current tango icon theme is already in
 breezy...

 ciao
 oli

The Tango team is largely (?/partially?) made up of Novel Desktop
developers. I think that visual aesthetics is one place where Linux
distributions *should* differentiate themselves. Be careful embracing
Tango at the expensive of Ubuntu's distinctive look.

I'm not saying it's bad to give users that choice, but we ( or maybe I
) want Ubuntu to be a *unique* thing of beauty.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Tango

2005-10-19 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Matthew Nuzum

 The Tango team is largely (?/partially?) made up of Novel Desktop
 developers. I think that visual aesthetics is one place where Linux
 distributions *should* differentiate themselves. Be careful embracing
 Tango at the expensive of Ubuntu's distinctive look.

a) We don't have a distinctive look for our icons at the moment (we ship the
   GNOME icons by default right now).

b) It is a *massive* amount of work for not a huge amount of gain.

c) How do completely different looking 'Linux' [1] desktops help users?

- Jeff

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Tango

2005-10-19 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi,
Am Mittwoch, den 19.10.2005, 09:43 -0500 schrieb Matthew Nuzum:
  a snapshot package with the current tango icon theme is already in
  breezy...
 
 The Tango team is largely (?/partially?) made up of Novel Desktop
 developers. I think that visual aesthetics is one place where Linux
 distributions *should* differentiate themselves. Be careful embracing
 Tango at the expensive of Ubuntu's distinctive look.
i didnt make any suggestion in my post, just wanted to point out its
packaged so you can easily install/uninstall it if you want to have a
look...

personally i wait for humility to be finished and polished ;)

ciao
oli


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Re: [ubuntu-art] Tango

2005-10-19 Thread Matthew Nuzum
On 10/19/05, Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 quote who=Matthew Nuzum

  The Tango team is largely (?/partially?) made up of Novel Desktop
  developers. I think that visual aesthetics is one place where Linux
  distributions *should* differentiate themselves. Be careful embracing
  Tango at the expensive of Ubuntu's distinctive look.

 a) We don't have a distinctive look for our icons at the moment (we ship the
GNOME icons by default right now).

Ah. That explains the foot. The only two Gnome's I've used is
RedHat/Fedora and Ubuntu and they look much different from each other,
so I didn't realize these were defaults.

 c) How do completely different looking 'Linux' [1] desktops help users?
I'm not suggesting they look completely different, I'm suggesting they
have unique visual styles. In a sense, if you've seen Windows XP Home
and compared it to Windows XP Media Center there is a a unique visual
style to media center. It doesn't look drastically different -
everything is still in the same place, it just has a little additional
flair.

That is what I was suggesting with Ubuntu, and note that I said this
type of distinction should be emphasized, implying that some other
things that differ between distros should not.

I was initially attracted to Ubuntu because it's simple, clean and
elegant style *looked* much nicer than the cluttered Fedora/RedHat
desktop I'd used before.

However your point b is well taken - I know creating one icon is
tricky, and since Ubuntu doesn't differentiate itself from others now
in the icons it uses, then if a new suite of nice looking icons is
available then it makes sense to use it.

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