Re: [ubuntu-art] Updated "Minimalistic", patching usplash, sources
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Updated "Minimalistic", patching usplash, sources
On Mon, 2006-05-15 at 21:41 +0200, Étienne Bersac wrote: > Whaaoo ! Got it ! That is so nice ! I set gdm background color to > #D9BB7A, that makes transitions smoother. > > Why doesn't usplash wait for ready gdm prompt before switching to VT7 ? > > I really think we are close to a very polish boot process. The silence > of the splash is so beautiful, peaceful. > > Thanks. That seems like a really good idea. Why not file a bug? God bless, Lukas -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Updated "Minimalistic", patching usplash, sources
Whaaoo ! Got it ! That is so nice ! I set gdm background color to #D9BB7A, that makes transitions smoother. Why doesn't usplash wait for ready gdm prompt before switching to VT7 ? I really think we are close to a very polish boot process. The silence of the splash is so beautiful, peaceful. Thanks. signature.asc Description: Ceci est une partie de message numériquement signée -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Updated "Minimalistic", patching usplash, sources
On Monday 15 May 2006 20:45, Viper550 wrote: > OH NO! If it is that buggy in some cases, why don't we just ditch this > minimalistic thing for now...maybe Edgy could have it or similar? (Edgy > is the next version) I don't wanna care about this for Dapper because > today is the UI freeze you know...Everyone seemed to like my artwork > better, what you've got is VERY dull... Étienne's problem is actually solved in the current splash. He has (add another one to the list) a screen that support palette 0 colors so his whole screen is tan. It looks really beautiful he wrote me, but you don't have to take my word for it, you could ask him yourself (off list). I'm so sorry to have to reply on this subject yet again. With kind regards, Frank Schoep -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Updated "Minimalistic", patching usplash, sources
Hello, > OH NO! If it is that buggy in some cases, Thats is not buggy anymore :) > OH NO! If it is that buggy in some cases, why don't we just ditch this > minimalistic thing for now...maybe Edgy could have it or similar? (Edgy > is the next version) I don't wanna care about this for Dapper because > today is the UI freeze you know...Everyone seemed to like my artwork > better, what you've got is VERY dull... Haha :) You're very funny :D. Don't stress. I like you're theme. It is much better than the 0.2-1 version (but how to make worst ?) and fit quite well with the human glassyness. However, minimal[ia]stic supersedes Human as Tangerine supersedes Human :). A glassy Human gdm theme, gnome splash , winfoss installer etc. will make a consistent Human theme for dapper. Also, your artwork deals better with *ubuntu. So let's Frank, you and other making best artwork. Étienne. signature.asc Description: Ceci est une partie de message numériquement signée -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Updated "Minimalistic", patching usplash, sources
Étienne Bersac wrote: Hello, I retest with no vga option, and thing goes very strange. see the shot attached. Étienne. OH NO! If it is that buggy in some cases, why don't we just ditch this minimalistic thing for now...maybe Edgy could have it or similar? (Edgy is the next version) I don't wanna care about this for Dapper because today is the UI freeze you know...Everyone seemed to like my artwork better, what you've got is VERY dull... Viper550 -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Updated "Minimalistic", patching usplash, sources
Hello, I retest with no vga option, and thing goes very strange. see the shot attached. Étienne. <> signature.asc Description: Ceci est une partie de message numériquement signée -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Updated "Minimalistic", patching usplash, sources
2006/5/13, Frank Schoep <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: How can I obtain usplash'ssource to make a patch?I'll stay off the whole usplash design issue... You can get package sources byapt-get source usplashYou don't have to "sudo" the command. The command will put the sources in your current working dir. I don't know if there is any nifty apt/dpkg'ish way of diffing against it though (there prolly is). Happy hacking. Cheers,Mikkel -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Updated "Minimalistic", patching usplash, sources
j Mak wrote: Hi Frank, If you venture into creating usplash for other disros, please dont forget xubuntu. Here you can find the xubuntu logo. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperXubuntuColorScheme?action=""> This is the xubuntu color shceme: #a0b7c9 #3a5065 #789abd Thanks, J. Mak http://jozmak.googlepages.com Share your photos with the people who matter at Yahoo! Canada Photos Okay... Viper550 -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Updated "Minimalistic", patching usplash, sources
Hi Frank,If you venture into creating usplash for other disros, please dont forget xubuntu. Here you can find the xubuntu logo.https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperXubuntuColorScheme?action="">This is the xubuntu color shceme:#a0b7c9#3a5065#789abdThanks,J. Mak Frank Schoep <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello ubuntu-devel and ubuntu-art,Let me first apologize for cross-posting this, but the discussion about a new usplash is now officially going on in countless of places and I feel that what I'm going to tell you is both relevant to -art and -devel at the same time. I won't make a habit of doing this so please excuse me for once.The part more interesting for ubuntu-art is above the line, ubuntu-devel subscribers will find the part under the line more interesting.First of all, many thanks to all testers for testing the Minimalastic usplash. Everyone who reported it worked well on their system, thanks again, but I'm sorry this mail is not going to be about you, it's the problems that I'm going to tackle.I've gotten some replies indicating that laptops and certain TFTs do not scale the logo, which was expected. But instead of showing a black area around the screen, they fill it with palette color 0, which is tan in my case. So, instead of the rounded corners looking good, they look bad. It seems that VMware is more of an exception than a rule in this case.So, after resizing and polishing the logo and it's position tonight I also removed the black corners to see if any more complaints stream in about them being removed. If testing is indicative, the largest (only?) portion of the userbase doesn't need them. I will personally assist users who have black backgrounds behind an unscaled usplash and complain about it. Honestly.The updated version is available at the exact same URL, the version number is the same so you _will_ have to remove the current version if you have it installed. This was just to make sure I don't have two versions in the wild. So the URL is still:http://www.ffnn.nl/media/external/ubuntu/usplash/usplash-minimalistic_0.1.debScreenshots of the old version are still here:http://www.ffnn.nl/media/external/ubuntu/usplash/minimalistic-working-full.jpghttp://www.ffnn.nl/media/external/ubuntu/usplash/minimalistic-working-squashed.jpgSome users asked why there was no text. The reason is simple: after powering on my machine I do not expect it to do anything other than getting me to the desktop as fast as possible. Am I alone in this line of thinking? I think "less is more" fits the bill quite well here.I've also thought about making Kubuntu and Edubuntu usplashes similar to this one. I think they'll work out great, with Kubuntu having two shades of blue and Edubuntu leaning towards the yellow or orange. But let's first get Ubuntu main on the tracks.That was the ubuntu-art part. Now let's move to ubuntu-devel.I want / need to patch usplash to be able to cut down it's current verbosity and to still be able to display error messages. I've gotten some reactions that Minimalastic currently only shows "FAIL" but not what has failed. That is correct, because I set both the text foreground and background to the same tan to simulate hiding all text except "FAIL". How can I obtain usplash's source to make a patch?I'll elaborate on what I want to do:Right now, usplash probably does this:- read input- receive description of boot-part (e.g. "Starting Apache webserver")- display description on the left- read input- receive result (e.g. "OK")- display result on the rightWhat I want in the new scenario is this:- receive description of boot-part- store description in memory- receive result- if result "OK", don't display anything- if result "FAIL", display both description and resultThat's all. I'm sure I would be able to patch usplash in a matter of minutes to do this and it would solve my main problem for the usplash. As you might see, I'm really eager to get this done because it will make boot up feel that more polished. Removing the drawing operations of "non-interesting" text will also speed up boot times (especially noticeable on VMware and several videocards, for instance the one I have, a nVidia Geforce 7800 GS).The change I'm proposing will work for all usplash themes and make any usplash less confusing. It will also help to focus attention more on what actually goes wrong, like a main Unix philosophy it seems. How do you all feel about this?Oh, one more thing: the sources for the usplash are available on my CVS server via a CVSWeb interface, you can download tarballs and browse commit logs with it if you like: http://cvs.ffnn.nl/I hope we can work together in bringing the best end-user bootup experience along with Dapper. Thanks for reading and testing!With kind regards,Frank Schoep-- ubuntu-art mailing listubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.comhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-arthtt
Re: [ubuntu-art] Updated "Minimalistic", patching usplash, sources
Design Wise, a blank screen with just an Ubuntu Logo and a Progress Bar seems pretty good. But still, why can't we have a black background? Windows XP does that, and we're trying to be simple and familar as Windows users as possible, and a black screen with a logo and progress bar (and in XP's case, version and copyright info) is what they are used to! I've made new versions of my splash screen graphics that only have the respective logos on them, no other text at all! Viper550 p.s. These can be used on Frank's system and the current system. Also, Frank, http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/misc/usplash , click on the "[usplash_0.2-1.tar.gz]" link at the bottom for a source package. And thanks for the comment on my new Folder icon, think its good enough to make it (with maybe some small adjustments if necessary)? -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Updated "Minimalistic", patching usplash, sources
Hello ubuntu-devel and ubuntu-art, Let me first apologize for cross-posting this, but the discussion about a new usplash is now officially going on in countless of places and I feel that what I'm going to tell you is both relevant to -art and -devel at the same time. I won't make a habit of doing this so please excuse me for once. The part more interesting for ubuntu-art is above the line, ubuntu-devel subscribers will find the part under the line more interesting. First of all, many thanks to all testers for testing the Minimalastic usplash. Everyone who reported it worked well on their system, thanks again, but I'm sorry this mail is not going to be about you, it's the problems that I'm going to tackle. I've gotten some replies indicating that laptops and certain TFTs do not scale the logo, which was expected. But instead of showing a black area around the screen, they fill it with palette color 0, which is tan in my case. So, instead of the rounded corners looking good, they look bad. It seems that VMware is more of an exception than a rule in this case. So, after resizing and polishing the logo and it's position tonight I also removed the black corners to see if any more complaints stream in about them being removed. If testing is indicative, the largest (only?) portion of the userbase doesn't need them. I will personally assist users who have black backgrounds behind an unscaled usplash and complain about it. Honestly. The updated version is available at the exact same URL, the version number is the same so you _will_ have to remove the current version if you have it installed. This was just to make sure I don't have two versions in the wild. So the URL is still: http://www.ffnn.nl/media/external/ubuntu/usplash/usplash-minimalistic_0.1.deb Screenshots of the old version are still here: http://www.ffnn.nl/media/external/ubuntu/usplash/minimalistic-working-full.jpg http://www.ffnn.nl/media/external/ubuntu/usplash/minimalistic-working-squashed.jpg Some users asked why there was no text. The reason is simple: after powering on my machine I do not expect it to do anything other than getting me to the desktop as fast as possible. Am I alone in this line of thinking? I think "less is more" fits the bill quite well here. I've also thought about making Kubuntu and Edubuntu usplashes similar to this one. I think they'll work out great, with Kubuntu having two shades of blue and Edubuntu leaning towards the yellow or orange. But let's first get Ubuntu main on the tracks. That was the ubuntu-art part. Now let's move to ubuntu-devel. I want / need to patch usplash to be able to cut down it's current verbosity and to still be able to display error messages. I've gotten some reactions that Minimalastic currently only shows "FAIL" but not what has failed. That is correct, because I set both the text foreground and background to the same tan to simulate hiding all text except "FAIL". How can I obtain usplash's source to make a patch? I'll elaborate on what I want to do: Right now, usplash probably does this: - read input - receive description of boot-part (e.g. "Starting Apache webserver") - display description on the left - read input - receive result (e.g. "OK") - display result on the right What I want in the new scenario is this: - receive description of boot-part - store description in memory - receive result - if result "OK", don't display anything - if result "FAIL", display both description and result That's all. I'm sure I would be able to patch usplash in a matter of minutes to do this and it would solve my main problem for the usplash. As you might see, I'm really eager to get this done because it will make boot up feel that more polished. Removing the drawing operations of "non-interesting" text will also speed up boot times (especially noticeable on VMware and several videocards, for instance the one I have, a nVidia Geforce 7800 GS). The change I'm proposing will work for all usplash themes and make any usplash less confusing. It will also help to focus attention more on what actually goes wrong, like a main Unix philosophy it seems. How do you all feel about this? Oh, one more thing: the sources for the usplash are available on my CVS server via a CVSWeb interface, you can download tarballs and browse commit logs with it if you like: http://cvs.ffnn.nl/ I hope we can work together in bringing the best end-user bootup experience along with Dapper. Thanks for reading and testing! With kind regards, Frank Schoep -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
