Re: [ubuntu-art] Where's the official proposed theme idea?

[sylvain marc]

Excellent !

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/BasicIdeals


2007/12/18, Ken Vermette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Got the link, and thanks to Racoqster for the quick post on the blog. I
> know about every language BUT python, so I can try to learn python this
> weekend and assist in coding later if absolutely necessary; Would it be
> possible to work without the configurator?
>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/BasicIdeals
>
> The Wiki has been updated to include a mockup with all current elements -
> and links to the SVG source and XCF source are directly below the image.
> I'll be downloading some themes that resemble mine (in their technical
> composition) and start to figure out how we could get this beast into a live
> environment! The XCF source is almost useless, but it can make life easy if
> anyone wants to make a mockup with icons & text.
>
> The large mockup doesn't include the most recent requests (several of
> which will be integrated), but it gives the closest impression to what a
> full desktop would look like right now - barring the lack of widgets.
>
> Thanks all;
> -- Ken V
>
> On Dec 17, 2007 7:51 PM, Iacopo Masi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On 12/17/07, Ken Vermette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > There's go GTK yet, currently most of the work is going into mockups.
> > I need
> > > to get ahold of the Murrine Developer Andrea Cimitan, and see about
> > getting
> > > information on the Transparent GTK tweaks before I start making the
> > mockups
> > > live graphics.
> >
> > Cimi will release the code when a Murrine Configurator should be
> > available so we must work towards the murrine configurator in pygtk.
> >
> > take a look at
> >
> > http://www.cimitan.com/blog/2007/12/16/searching-coders-for-the-murrine-configurator/
> >
> > --
> > Iacopo Masi
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Where's the official proposed theme idea?

[xl cheese]

I really like the idea of transparent scrollbars over a decorated trough 
proposed by this theme.
http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/Kerberos
 
It's probably doable similar to how this guy has introduced transparency to GTK.
http://cimi.netsons.org/blog/



> > On Friday 21 December 2007 02:51:14 Andrew Laignel wrote:> > > >> To be 
> > honest I am not particularly keen on the current incarnation of> >> the 
> > offical theme so far. I find most of the themes based on brown to> >> 
> > overly dark - although this may be more personal preference. I like> >> 
> > light, bright themes and find the trend of brown on brown a bit> >> 
> > claustraphobic at times. The themes buttons are also a bit too similar> >> 
> > in design to Vista for comfort.> >>> >> Putting my money where my mouth is 
> > I have created a mockup for a brown> >> based theme that still keeps the 
> > spirit of Ubuntu (I hope) but uses> >> large amounts of contrasting and 
> > light colours. It's just> >> quick-and-dirty and lacks the majority of the 
> > required controls, but> >> hopefully it'll demonstrate what I mean.> >>> >> 
> > http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/Kerberos> >> > >> > 
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Where's the official proposed theme idea?

[Andrew Laignel]

Ahh that makes more sense.  The namings confused me.

As for the palette I tried to incorporate a colour that wasn't brown, 
but nothing looked good.  :(

I've updated the mock slightly now.  My aim was to create a theme that 
although it is brown based it would be high contrast, bright and airy.  
I've always found previous versions of the Ubuntu theme far too brown 
and dark for my liking.  My version is inadvertantly a bit cartoony but 
I haven't spent a lot of time on it yet, I was just seeing how it could 
work.

If people like it enough I may develop it further - at the least it 
provides an example of the potential of a high-contrast brown based theme.

Kenneth Wimer wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Just thought I should clear something up. This work is not the "official 
> theme". Also this is another person who happens to be named Ken making this 
> theme (nice name, dude!) and although I do find several parts of it 
> intersting it is in no direct sense the future of Ubuntu or what we will use 
> in Hardy.
>
> Having cleared that up, I like you palette and use of colors although I do 
> not 
> get the feeling of that in the mockup you sent other than the colors at the 
> bottom.
>
> --
> Ken
>
> On Friday 21 December 2007 02:51:14 Andrew Laignel wrote:
>   
>> To be honest I am not particularly keen on the current incarnation of
>> the offical theme so far.  I find most of the themes based on brown to
>> overly dark - although this may be more personal preference.  I like
>> light, bright themes and find the trend of brown on brown a bit
>> claustraphobic at times.  The themes buttons are also a bit too similar
>> in design to Vista for comfort.
>>
>> Putting my money where my mouth is I have created a mockup for a brown
>> based theme that still keeps the spirit of Ubuntu (I hope) but uses
>> large amounts of contrasting and light colours.  It's just
>> quick-and-dirty and lacks the majority of the required controls, but
>> hopefully it'll demonstrate what I mean.
>>
>> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/Kerberos
>> 
>
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Where's the official proposed theme idea?

[shadowh511]

Ken,

You knock my socks off every time you release an update, good job (as a 
side note, i have now stopped wearing socks lol).  Even if this doesn't 
become the official theme, you can always post it for download!  Good 
job, and keep it up.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Where's the official proposed theme idea?

[Ken Vermette]

I also go by "Ken #2" or "Ken B"; but if another Ken whose last name is
like, "Bernard" or something, I'll go by "Ken C" or with my last initial
"Ken V". But not "W", that's taken. Hope that clears things up. :P

But yes, Ken is right (No the other Ken, wait, no, yes, no... "Mr.Wimer");
This isn't by any means or stretch the official theme, even though a few
websites have promoted it as such. It's just a concept theme.

With all that in mind, I'm updating the theme wiki for 3.3, and it should be
up by the time everyone figures out what to call me.

 -- Ken ("A", "B", "C" or "V" but not "W")

On Dec 20, 2007 9:32 PM, Kenneth Wimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Just thought I should clear something up. This work is not the "official
> theme". Also this is another person who happens to be named Ken making
> this
> theme (nice name, dude!) and although I do find several parts of it
> intersting it is in no direct sense the future of Ubuntu or what we will
> use
> in Hardy.
>
> Having cleared that up, I like you palette and use of colors although I do
> not
> get the feeling of that in the mockup you sent other than the colors at
> the
> bottom.
>
> --
> Ken
>
> On Friday 21 December 2007 02:51:14 Andrew Laignel wrote:
> > To be honest I am not particularly keen on the current incarnation of
> > the offical theme so far.  I find most of the themes based on brown to
> > overly dark - although this may be more personal preference.  I like
> > light, bright themes and find the trend of brown on brown a bit
> > claustraphobic at times.  The themes buttons are also a bit too similar
> > in design to Vista for comfort.
> >
> > Putting my money where my mouth is I have created a mockup for a brown
> > based theme that still keeps the spirit of Ubuntu (I hope) but uses
> > large amounts of contrasting and light colours.  It's just
> > quick-and-dirty and lacks the majority of the required controls, but
> > hopefully it'll demonstrate what I mean.
> >
> > http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/Kerberos
>
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Where's the official proposed theme idea?

[Kenneth Wimer]

Hi,

Just thought I should clear something up. This work is not the "official 
theme". Also this is another person who happens to be named Ken making this 
theme (nice name, dude!) and although I do find several parts of it 
intersting it is in no direct sense the future of Ubuntu or what we will use 
in Hardy.

Having cleared that up, I like you palette and use of colors although I do not 
get the feeling of that in the mockup you sent other than the colors at the 
bottom.

--
Ken

On Friday 21 December 2007 02:51:14 Andrew Laignel wrote:
> To be honest I am not particularly keen on the current incarnation of
> the offical theme so far.  I find most of the themes based on brown to
> overly dark - although this may be more personal preference.  I like
> light, bright themes and find the trend of brown on brown a bit
> claustraphobic at times.  The themes buttons are also a bit too similar
> in design to Vista for comfort.
>
> Putting my money where my mouth is I have created a mockup for a brown
> based theme that still keeps the spirit of Ubuntu (I hope) but uses
> large amounts of contrasting and light colours.  It's just
> quick-and-dirty and lacks the majority of the required controls, but
> hopefully it'll demonstrate what I mean.
>
> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/Kerberos

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Where's the official proposed theme idea?

[Andrew Laignel]

To be honest I am not particularly keen on the current incarnation of 
the offical theme so far.  I find most of the themes based on brown to 
overly dark - although this may be more personal preference.  I like 
light, bright themes and find the trend of brown on brown a bit 
claustraphobic at times.  The themes buttons are also a bit too similar 
in design to Vista for comfort.

Putting my money where my mouth is I have created a mockup for a brown 
based theme that still keeps the spirit of Ubuntu (I hope) but uses 
large amounts of contrasting and light colours.  It's just 
quick-and-dirty and lacks the majority of the required controls, but 
hopefully it'll demonstrate what I mean.

http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/Kerberos

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Where's the official proposed theme idea?

[Ken Vermette]

True; but I'd rather give people the option if they use a more windows-like
layout, or just don't have anything on the topside of the screen.

No real reason limit yourself, keep things available just-in-case.

On Dec 19, 2007 4:51 PM, Daniel Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
>
>
>
> While it doesn't sound like a big deal, it's just another thing to look
> at. If I rounded the corner then the button would need to be 1 or 2 pixels
> lower to accommodate the top-edge, breaking the users ability to slam.
>
>
>
> You can't slam with floating (non maximised) windows. Mac user can always
> slam because of the unified tool bar at the top.
>
>
>
>
>
> --Ken Vermette
>
> On Dec 19, 2007 6:28 AM, George Brooke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > How about making the window close minimise ect. icons rounded off at the
> > top rather like the main menu.
> >
> > solar.george
> >
> > Ken Vermette wrote:
> >
> > It's kind of like a mold... Like it or not, it kind grows on you. I
> > hated my windows when I made them, and I have a gallery of hideous window
> > ideas that I hope will never see the light of day.
> >
> > Orange is really just a highlight colour in this theme, so it'll
> > proballbly look odd on the theme until some widgets are added. When they get
> > added though, hopefully the additional orange in the theme will make it feel
> > more balanced. I lightened up the brown and slightly altered the orange - so
> > it should hopefully be a bit better. I can't really use any other colours
> > (even if I think they'll look better) because I want to stick to the
> > official Ubuntu colour pallet.
> >
> > I'm actively planning a small set of variations in popular colours; I
> > don't think there will be a way to change the colours via the colour menu -
> > unless there's a hue-shifting algorithm involved (similar to the one
> > implemented in Vista or Windowblinds).
> >
> > Anyway, there's another update up on the wiki:
> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/BasicIdeals?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=fulldesk%28svg%29_v3_2.jpg
> >
> >
> > the XCF and SVG sources have been updated aswell; the XCF actually has
> > everything in it now, I uploaded a half-finished XCF file on the first
> > version, but the new one will be much better for people who want to use or
> > edit content because it's complete. For anyone wanting to make a mockup
> > using the files, the Mock-ups are first edited/rendered in InkScape, then
> > are imported into the bottom layer of the XCF. You could delete the BG in
> > inkscape and export a transparent PNG to create a render suitable for
> > porting into other themes.
> >
> > Thanks as always,
> > --Ken V
> >
> > On Dec 18, 2007 12:42 PM, Corey Woodworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > At first I didn't like this theme, but it is really growing on me. Of
> > > coarse there are things that still need work. The orange in the theme 
> > > feels
> > > out of place. It just doesn't fit it because of how heavy the browns are. 
> > > I
> > > think using white as the selected item color in the menus would look a lot
> > > better. I also think that the notification area needs to use different
> > > colors. It needs to stand out more. Now it hardly stands out at all since 
> > > it
> > > is the same color as the background behind it, and of most windows. 
> > > Speaking
> > > of the windows, I really like the way the titlebar and menu bar are
> > > visuially connected int the active window. In the unactive window where it
> > > looks like just a gradient from brown to tan looks very ugly to me.
> > >
> > > I think this theme is about the prettiest a brown theme could be, but
> > > we would still get a lot of flac from the brown haters if this were 
> > > default.
> > > I hope that it works well with the color options in the appearence 
> > > settings
> > > so that keeping the theme but using a different  color is just a couple of
> > > clicks worth of work.
> > >
> > > Corey
> > >
> > > On Dec 17, 2007 9:30 PM, Ken Vermette <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Got the link, and thanks to Racoqster for the quick post on the
> > > > blog. I know about every language BUT python, so I can try to learn 
> > > > python
> > > > this weekend and assist in coding later if absolutely necessary; Would 
> > > > it be
> > > > possible to work without the configurator?
> > > >
> > > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/BasicIdeals
> > > >
> > > >  The Wiki has been updated to include a mockup with all current
> > > > elements - and links to the SVG source and XCF source are directly 
> > > > below the
> > > > image. I'll be downloading some themes that resemble mine (in their
> > > > technical composition) and start to figure out how we could get this 
> > > > beast
> > > > into a live environment! The XCF source is almost useless, but it can 
> > > > make
> > > > life easy if anyone wants to make a mockup with icons & text.
> > > >
> > > > The large mockup d

Re: [ubuntu-art] Where's the official proposed theme idea?

[Ken Vermette]

So far the theme is still just mock-ups, and sadly, there's noting actually
usable in a live environment. :(

At the latest, when mid-January comes to pass I hope to have an almost
fully-working theme available. Latest! I hope to have working portions
sooner than that. ;)

I did just get a whole slew of ideas on my wiki, so I'm going to work on
getting version 3.3 of the theme out tonight with the ideas.

On Dec 20, 2007 10:24 AM, shadowh511 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Could I please have a link to the BasicIdeals Theme?  I would love to use
> it
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Where's the official proposed theme idea?

[shadowh511]

Could I please have a link to the BasicIdeals Theme?  I would love to use it
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Where's the official proposed theme idea?

[Cory K.]

Andrew Laignel wrote:
> Adobe provide an amazing resource for creating and picking colour 
> palettes at http://kuler.adobe.com/ Just typing 'brown' into the search 
> box gets some quite nice pre-made selections for colourschemes.  It's 
> Flash 9 only though :(

Troy showed me this one:
http://www.wellstyled.com/tools/colorscheme2/index-en.html

There's also Agave: http://home.gna.org/colorscheme

-Cory \m/

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Where's the official proposed theme idea?

[Álvaro Medina Ballester]

I really like gold themes. Mixing gold and cream tones could be amazing.

Cheers.

2007/12/20, Andrew Laignel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Adobe provide an amazing resource for creating and picking colour
> palettes at http://kuler.adobe.com/ Just typing 'brown' into the search
> box gets some quite nice pre-made selections for colourschemes.  It's
> Flash 9 only though :(
>
> I do agree with the thoughts on the brown usage being a bit full on.  I
> think a very light potentially cream or white wallpaper with a nice
> light hint colour used throughout the theme would help temper the
> intensity somewhat and provide some welcome contrast.
>
> Kenneth Wimer wrote:
> > Hi Ken,
> >
> > I really dig the ideas shown in your mockup. Using a bit of color in the
> > windows seems like a great idea to me - I was actually working on some
> ideas
> > along these lines). The thing that strikes me most is that the brown
> seems to
> > be used too much. In the past we have stuck to brown with light brown
> and
> > then perhaps orange highlights on some things) which really doesn't work
> well
> > and seems to give people the impression that brown=poop.
> >
> > I think that using a complimentary color would help a lot. Have you
> thought
> > about using a gradient from brown to grey in the windows? It might
> lighten
> > things up a bit, and in addition to using a compliment in the wallpaper
> (and
> > perhaps some highlights or such) would make things much livelier I
> think.
> >
> > I would be really interested in seeing some variations of your theme
> idea,
> > perhaps with a dark grey and light grey to show something more along the
> > lines of what people are used to seeing.
> >
> > I'll be posting some color palette ideas *really* soon (like tomorrow or
> so),
> > along with some basic things that we are looking for.
> >
> > --
> > Ken (kwwii)
> >
> > On Thursday 20 December 2007 00:05:31 Ken Vermette wrote:
> >
> >> I want to have at least 3 alternative colour variations in the end when
> all
> >> this is done and over with; Nobody said some of them couldn't have
> >> different buttons. Either way, it's easily doable, but first I want the
> >> main theme to get up-and-running before I make other flavors.
> >>
> >> Also: Linux works on tablet PC's? Well, I think I know what I'll be
> picking
> >> up when I have the chance. :)
> >>
> >> On Dec 19, 2007 1:54 PM, George Brooke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>>  I guess it's just a matter of personal preference. Also I mainly use
> a
> >>> tablet pc so its easier to click on enclosed buttons than when using a
> >>> mouse. Maybe someone could create an alternative controls (is that
> >>> correct ?) theme for people who prefer rounded buttons.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> solar.george
> >>>
> >>> Ken Vermette wrote:
> >>>
> >>> One thing I need to say about Vista is they did good with the window
> >>> buttons. I'll give em credit where credit is due.
> >>>
> >>> A few weeks before I started this theme I read as many reviews and
> >>> interface guidelines as I could, and one was a review on GUI aspects
> of
> >>> Vista and OSX. While they come a dime a dozen, this one was
> >>> (surprisingly) neutral.
> >>>
> >>> Anyway, when it was on topic about window buttons, one thing it
> mentioned
> >>> constantly was "slamming", where users will slam the mouse onto one
> edge
> >>> of the screen. So, as long as an element touches an edge or a corner
> >>> (which is why I'm tempted to make the X cover the complete corner of
> the
> >>> window) the user doesn't need to bother with carefully positioning the
> >>> mouse over the button.
> >>>
> >>> While it doesn't sound like a big deal, it's just another thing to
> look
> >>> at. If I rounded the corner then the button would need to be 1 or 2
> >>> pixels lower to accommodate the top-edge, breaking the users ability
> to
> >>> slam.
> >>>
> >>> --Ken Vermette
> >>>
> >>> On Dec 19, 2007 6:28 AM, George Brooke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
>  How about making the window close minimise ect. icons rounded off at
>  the top rather like the main menu.
> 
>  solar.george
> 
>  Ken Vermette wrote:
> 
>  It's kind of like a mold... Like it or not, it kind grows on you. I
>  hated my windows when I made them, and I have a gallery of hideous
>  window ideas that I hope will never see the light of day.
> 
>  Orange is really just a highlight colour in this theme, so it'll
>  proballbly look odd on the theme until some widgets are added. When
>  they get added though, hopefully the additional orange in the theme
>  will make it feel more balanced. I lightened up the brown and
> slightly
>  altered the orange - so it should hopefully be a bit better. I can't
>  really use any other colours (even if I think they'll look better)
>  because I want to stick to the official Ubuntu colour pallet.
> 
>  I'm actively planning a small set of variations in popular colours;

Re: [ubuntu-art] Where's the official proposed theme idea?

[Andrew Laignel]

Adobe provide an amazing resource for creating and picking colour 
palettes at http://kuler.adobe.com/ Just typing 'brown' into the search 
box gets some quite nice pre-made selections for colourschemes.  It's 
Flash 9 only though :(

I do agree with the thoughts on the brown usage being a bit full on.  I 
think a very light potentially cream or white wallpaper with a nice 
light hint colour used throughout the theme would help temper the 
intensity somewhat and provide some welcome contrast.

Kenneth Wimer wrote:
> Hi Ken,
>
> I really dig the ideas shown in your mockup. Using a bit of color in the 
> windows seems like a great idea to me - I was actually working on some ideas 
> along these lines). The thing that strikes me most is that the brown seems to 
> be used too much. In the past we have stuck to brown with light brown and 
> then perhaps orange highlights on some things) which really doesn't work well 
> and seems to give people the impression that brown=poop.
>
> I think that using a complimentary color would help a lot. Have you thought 
> about using a gradient from brown to grey in the windows? It might lighten 
> things up a bit, and in addition to using a compliment in the wallpaper (and 
> perhaps some highlights or such) would make things much livelier I think.
>
> I would be really interested in seeing some variations of your theme idea, 
> perhaps with a dark grey and light grey to show something more along the 
> lines of what people are used to seeing.
>
> I'll be posting some color palette ideas *really* soon (like tomorrow or so), 
> along with some basic things that we are looking for.
>
> --
> Ken (kwwii)
>
> On Thursday 20 December 2007 00:05:31 Ken Vermette wrote:
>   
>> I want to have at least 3 alternative colour variations in the end when all
>> this is done and over with; Nobody said some of them couldn't have
>> different buttons. Either way, it's easily doable, but first I want the
>> main theme to get up-and-running before I make other flavors.
>>
>> Also: Linux works on tablet PC's? Well, I think I know what I'll be picking
>> up when I have the chance. :)
>>
>> On Dec 19, 2007 1:54 PM, George Brooke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>>  I guess it's just a matter of personal preference. Also I mainly use a
>>> tablet pc so its easier to click on enclosed buttons than when using a
>>> mouse. Maybe someone could create an alternative controls (is that
>>> correct ?) theme for people who prefer rounded buttons.
>>>
>>>
>>> solar.george
>>>
>>> Ken Vermette wrote:
>>>
>>> One thing I need to say about Vista is they did good with the window
>>> buttons. I'll give em credit where credit is due.
>>>
>>> A few weeks before I started this theme I read as many reviews and
>>> interface guidelines as I could, and one was a review on GUI aspects of
>>> Vista and OSX. While they come a dime a dozen, this one was
>>> (surprisingly) neutral.
>>>
>>> Anyway, when it was on topic about window buttons, one thing it mentioned
>>> constantly was "slamming", where users will slam the mouse onto one edge
>>> of the screen. So, as long as an element touches an edge or a corner
>>> (which is why I'm tempted to make the X cover the complete corner of the
>>> window) the user doesn't need to bother with carefully positioning the
>>> mouse over the button.
>>>
>>> While it doesn't sound like a big deal, it's just another thing to look
>>> at. If I rounded the corner then the button would need to be 1 or 2
>>> pixels lower to accommodate the top-edge, breaking the users ability to
>>> slam.
>>>
>>> --Ken Vermette
>>>
>>> On Dec 19, 2007 6:28 AM, George Brooke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>   
 How about making the window close minimise ect. icons rounded off at
 the top rather like the main menu.

 solar.george

 Ken Vermette wrote:

 It's kind of like a mold... Like it or not, it kind grows on you. I
 hated my windows when I made them, and I have a gallery of hideous
 window ideas that I hope will never see the light of day.

 Orange is really just a highlight colour in this theme, so it'll
 proballbly look odd on the theme until some widgets are added. When
 they get added though, hopefully the additional orange in the theme
 will make it feel more balanced. I lightened up the brown and slightly
 altered the orange - so it should hopefully be a bit better. I can't
 really use any other colours (even if I think they'll look better)
 because I want to stick to the official Ubuntu colour pallet.

 I'm actively planning a small set of variations in popular colours; I
 don't think there will be a way to change the colours via the colour
 menu - unless there's a hue-shifting algorithm involved (similar to the
 one implemented in Vista or Windowblinds).

 Anyway, there's another update up on the wiki:
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/BasicIdeals?ac
 tion=A

Re: [ubuntu-art] Where's the official proposed theme idea?

[Kenneth Wimer]

Hi Ken,

I really dig the ideas shown in your mockup. Using a bit of color in the 
windows seems like a great idea to me - I was actually working on some ideas 
along these lines). The thing that strikes me most is that the brown seems to 
be used too much. In the past we have stuck to brown with light brown and 
then perhaps orange highlights on some things) which really doesn't work well 
and seems to give people the impression that brown=poop.

I think that using a complimentary color would help a lot. Have you thought 
about using a gradient from brown to grey in the windows? It might lighten 
things up a bit, and in addition to using a compliment in the wallpaper (and 
perhaps some highlights or such) would make things much livelier I think.

I would be really interested in seeing some variations of your theme idea, 
perhaps with a dark grey and light grey to show something more along the 
lines of what people are used to seeing.

I'll be posting some color palette ideas *really* soon (like tomorrow or so), 
along with some basic things that we are looking for.

--
Ken (kwwii)

On Thursday 20 December 2007 00:05:31 Ken Vermette wrote:
> I want to have at least 3 alternative colour variations in the end when all
> this is done and over with; Nobody said some of them couldn't have
> different buttons. Either way, it's easily doable, but first I want the
> main theme to get up-and-running before I make other flavors.
>
> Also: Linux works on tablet PC's? Well, I think I know what I'll be picking
> up when I have the chance. :)
>
> On Dec 19, 2007 1:54 PM, George Brooke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >  I guess it's just a matter of personal preference. Also I mainly use a
> > tablet pc so its easier to click on enclosed buttons than when using a
> > mouse. Maybe someone could create an alternative controls (is that
> > correct ?) theme for people who prefer rounded buttons.
> >
> >
> > solar.george
> >
> > Ken Vermette wrote:
> >
> > One thing I need to say about Vista is they did good with the window
> > buttons. I'll give em credit where credit is due.
> >
> > A few weeks before I started this theme I read as many reviews and
> > interface guidelines as I could, and one was a review on GUI aspects of
> > Vista and OSX. While they come a dime a dozen, this one was
> > (surprisingly) neutral.
> >
> > Anyway, when it was on topic about window buttons, one thing it mentioned
> > constantly was "slamming", where users will slam the mouse onto one edge
> > of the screen. So, as long as an element touches an edge or a corner
> > (which is why I'm tempted to make the X cover the complete corner of the
> > window) the user doesn't need to bother with carefully positioning the
> > mouse over the button.
> >
> > While it doesn't sound like a big deal, it's just another thing to look
> > at. If I rounded the corner then the button would need to be 1 or 2
> > pixels lower to accommodate the top-edge, breaking the users ability to
> > slam.
> >
> > --Ken Vermette
> >
> > On Dec 19, 2007 6:28 AM, George Brooke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > wrote:
> > > How about making the window close minimise ect. icons rounded off at
> > > the top rather like the main menu.
> > >
> > > solar.george
> > >
> > > Ken Vermette wrote:
> > >
> > > It's kind of like a mold... Like it or not, it kind grows on you. I
> > > hated my windows when I made them, and I have a gallery of hideous
> > > window ideas that I hope will never see the light of day.
> > >
> > > Orange is really just a highlight colour in this theme, so it'll
> > > proballbly look odd on the theme until some widgets are added. When
> > > they get added though, hopefully the additional orange in the theme
> > > will make it feel more balanced. I lightened up the brown and slightly
> > > altered the orange - so it should hopefully be a bit better. I can't
> > > really use any other colours (even if I think they'll look better)
> > > because I want to stick to the official Ubuntu colour pallet.
> > >
> > > I'm actively planning a small set of variations in popular colours; I
> > > don't think there will be a way to change the colours via the colour
> > > menu - unless there's a hue-shifting algorithm involved (similar to the
> > > one implemented in Vista or Windowblinds).
> > >
> > > Anyway, there's another update up on the wiki:
> > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/BasicIdeals?ac
> > >tion=AttachFile&do=view&target=fulldesk%28svg%29_v3_2.jpg
> > >
> > >
> > > the XCF and SVG sources have been updated aswell; the XCF actually has
> > > everything in it now, I uploaded a half-finished XCF file on the first
> > > version, but the new one will be much better for people who want to use
> > > or edit content because it's complete. For anyone wanting to make a
> > > mockup using the files, the Mock-ups are first edited/rendered in
> > > InkScape, then are imported into the bottom layer of the XCF. You could
> > > delete the BG in inkscape and export a transp

Re: [ubuntu-art] Where's the official proposed theme idea?

[Daniel Moore]

While it doesn't sound like a big deal, it's just another thing to  
look at. If I rounded the corner then the button would need to be  
1 or 2 pixels lower to accommodate the top-edge, breaking the  
users ability to slam.



You can't slam with floating (non maximised) windows. Mac user can  
always slam because of the unified tool bar at the top.







--Ken Vermette

On Dec 19, 2007 6:28 AM, George Brooke  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
How about making the window close minimise ect. icons rounded off  
at the top rather like the main menu.


solar.george


Ken Vermette wrote:


It's kind of like a mold... Like it or not, it kind grows on you.  
I hated my windows when I made them, and I have a gallery of  
hideous window ideas that I hope will never see the light of day.


Orange is really just a highlight colour in this theme, so it'll  
proballbly look odd on the theme until some widgets are added.  
When they get added though, hopefully the additional orange in  
the theme will make it feel more balanced. I lightened up the  
brown and slightly altered the orange - so it should hopefully be  
a bit better. I can't really use any other colours (even if I  
think they'll look better) because I want to stick to the  
official Ubuntu colour pallet.


I'm actively planning a small set of variations in popular  
colours; I don't think there will be a way to change the colours  
via the colour menu - unless there's a hue-shifting algorithm  
involved (similar to the one implemented in Vista or Windowblinds).


Anyway, there's another update up on the wiki:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/ 
BasicIdeals?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=fulldesk%28svg% 
29_v3_2.jpg


the XCF and SVG sources have been updated aswell; the XCF  
actually has everything in it now, I uploaded a half-finished XCF  
file on the first version, but the new one will be much better  
for people who want to use or edit content because it's complete.  
For anyone wanting to make a mockup using the files, the Mock-ups  
are first edited/rendered in InkScape, then are imported into the  
bottom layer of the XCF. You could delete the BG in inkscape and  
export a transparent PNG to create a render suitable for porting  
into other themes.


Thanks as always,
--Ken V

On Dec 18, 2007 12:42 PM, Corey Woodworth  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
At first I didn't like this theme, but it is really growing on  
me. Of coarse there are things that still need work. The orange  
in the theme feels out of place. It just doesn't fit it because  
of how heavy the browns are. I think using white as the selected  
item color in the menus would look a lot better. I also think  
that the notification area needs to use different colors. It  
needs to stand out more. Now it hardly stands out at all since it  
is the same color as the background behind it, and of most  
windows. Speaking of the windows, I really like the way the  
titlebar and menu bar are visuially connected int the active  
window. In the unactive window where it looks like just a  
gradient from brown to tan looks very ugly to me.


I think this theme is about the prettiest a brown theme could be,  
but we would still get a lot of flac from the brown haters if  
this were default. I hope that it works well with the color  
options in the appearence settings so that keeping the theme but  
using a different  color is just a couple of clicks worth of work.


Corey


On Dec 17, 2007 9:30 PM, Ken Vermette <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
Got the link, and thanks to Racoqster for the quick post on the  
blog. I know about every language BUT python, so I can try to  
learn python this weekend and assist in coding later if  
absolutely necessary; Would it be possible to work without the  
configurator?



https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/BasicIdeals

The Wiki has been updated to include a mockup with all current  
elements - and links to the SVG source and XCF source are  
directly below the image. I'll be downloading some themes that  
resemble mine (in their technical composition) and start to  
figure out how we could get this beast into a live environment!  
The XCF source is almost useless, but it can make life easy if  
anyone wants to make a mockup with icons & text.


The large mockup doesn't include the most recent requests  
(several of which will be integrated), but it gives the closest  
impression to what a full desktop would look like right now -  
barring the lack of widgets.


Thanks all;
-- Ken V


On Dec 17, 2007 7:51 PM, Iacopo Masi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
> wrote:

On 12/17/07, Ken Vermette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There's go GTK yet, currently most of the work is going into  
mockups. I need
> to get ahold of the Murrine Developer Andrea Cimitan, and see  
about getting
> information on the Transparent GTK tweaks before I start making  
the mockups

> live graphics.

Cimi will release the code when a Murrine Configurator should be
a

Re: [ubuntu-art] Where's the official proposed theme idea?

[Ken Vermette]

I want to have at least 3 alternative colour variations in the end when all
this is done and over with; Nobody said some of them couldn't have different
buttons. Either way, it's easily doable, but first I want the main theme to
get up-and-running before I make other flavors.

Also: Linux works on tablet PC's? Well, I think I know what I'll be picking
up when I have the chance. :)

On Dec 19, 2007 1:54 PM, George Brooke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  I guess it's just a matter of personal preference. Also I mainly use a
> tablet pc so its easier to click on enclosed buttons than when using a
> mouse. Maybe someone could create an alternative controls (is that correct
> ?) theme for people who prefer rounded buttons.
>
>
> solar.george
>
> Ken Vermette wrote:
>
> One thing I need to say about Vista is they did good with the window
> buttons. I'll give em credit where credit is due.
>
> A few weeks before I started this theme I read as many reviews and
> interface guidelines as I could, and one was a review on GUI aspects of
> Vista and OSX. While they come a dime a dozen, this one was (surprisingly)
> neutral.
>
> Anyway, when it was on topic about window buttons, one thing it mentioned
> constantly was "slamming", where users will slam the mouse onto one edge of
> the screen. So, as long as an element touches an edge or a corner (which is
> why I'm tempted to make the X cover the complete corner of the window) the
> user doesn't need to bother with carefully positioning the mouse over the
> button.
>
> While it doesn't sound like a big deal, it's just another thing to look
> at. If I rounded the corner then the button would need to be 1 or 2 pixels
> lower to accommodate the top-edge, breaking the users ability to slam.
>
> --Ken Vermette
>
> On Dec 19, 2007 6:28 AM, George Brooke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > How about making the window close minimise ect. icons rounded off at the
> > top rather like the main menu.
> >
> > solar.george
> >
> > Ken Vermette wrote:
> >
> > It's kind of like a mold... Like it or not, it kind grows on you. I
> > hated my windows when I made them, and I have a gallery of hideous window
> > ideas that I hope will never see the light of day.
> >
> > Orange is really just a highlight colour in this theme, so it'll
> > proballbly look odd on the theme until some widgets are added. When they get
> > added though, hopefully the additional orange in the theme will make it feel
> > more balanced. I lightened up the brown and slightly altered the orange - so
> > it should hopefully be a bit better. I can't really use any other colours
> > (even if I think they'll look better) because I want to stick to the
> > official Ubuntu colour pallet.
> >
> > I'm actively planning a small set of variations in popular colours; I
> > don't think there will be a way to change the colours via the colour menu -
> > unless there's a hue-shifting algorithm involved (similar to the one
> > implemented in Vista or Windowblinds).
> >
> > Anyway, there's another update up on the wiki:
> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/BasicIdeals?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=fulldesk%28svg%29_v3_2.jpg
> >
> >
> > the XCF and SVG sources have been updated aswell; the XCF actually has
> > everything in it now, I uploaded a half-finished XCF file on the first
> > version, but the new one will be much better for people who want to use or
> > edit content because it's complete. For anyone wanting to make a mockup
> > using the files, the Mock-ups are first edited/rendered in InkScape, then
> > are imported into the bottom layer of the XCF. You could delete the BG in
> > inkscape and export a transparent PNG to create a render suitable for
> > porting into other themes.
> >
> > Thanks as always,
> > --Ken V
> >
> > On Dec 18, 2007 12:42 PM, Corey Woodworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > At first I didn't like this theme, but it is really growing on me. Of
> > > coarse there are things that still need work. The orange in the theme 
> > > feels
> > > out of place. It just doesn't fit it because of how heavy the browns are. 
> > > I
> > > think using white as the selected item color in the menus would look a lot
> > > better. I also think that the notification area needs to use different
> > > colors. It needs to stand out more. Now it hardly stands out at all since 
> > > it
> > > is the same color as the background behind it, and of most windows. 
> > > Speaking
> > > of the windows, I really like the way the titlebar and menu bar are
> > > visuially connected int the active window. In the unactive window where it
> > > looks like just a gradient from brown to tan looks very ugly to me.
> > >
> > > I think this theme is about the prettiest a brown theme could be, but
> > > we would still get a lot of flac from the brown haters if this were 
> > > default.
> > > I hope that it works well with the color options in the appearence 
> > > settings
> > > so that keeping the theme but using a

Re: [ubuntu-art] Where's the official proposed theme idea?

[George Brooke]

I guess it's just a matter of personal preference. Also I mainly use a 
tablet pc so its easier to click on enclosed buttons than when using a 
mouse. Maybe someone could create an alternative controls (is that 
correct ?) theme for people who prefer rounded buttons.


solar.george

Ken Vermette wrote:
One thing I need to say about Vista is they did good with the window 
buttons. I'll give em credit where credit is due.


A few weeks before I started this theme I read as many reviews and 
interface guidelines as I could, and one was a review on GUI aspects 
of Vista and OSX. While they come a dime a dozen, this one was 
(surprisingly) neutral.


Anyway, when it was on topic about window buttons, one thing it 
mentioned constantly was "slamming", where users will slam the mouse 
onto one edge of the screen. So, as long as an element touches an edge 
or a corner (which is why I'm tempted to make the X cover the complete 
corner of the window) the user doesn't need to bother with carefully 
positioning the mouse over the button.


While it doesn't sound like a big deal, it's just another thing to 
look at. If I rounded the corner then the button would need to be 1 or 
2 pixels lower to accommodate the top-edge, breaking the users ability 
to slam.


--Ken Vermette

On Dec 19, 2007 6:28 AM, George Brooke <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:


How about making the window close minimise ect. icons rounded off
at the top rather like the main menu.

solar.george


Ken Vermette wrote:

It's kind of like a mold... Like it or not, it kind grows on you.
I hated my windows when I made them, and I have a gallery of
hideous window ideas that I hope will never see the light of day.

Orange is really just a highlight colour in this theme, so it'll
proballbly look odd on the theme until some widgets are added.
When they get added though, hopefully the additional orange in
the theme will make it feel more balanced. I lightened up the
brown and slightly altered the orange - so it should hopefully be
a bit better. I can't really use any other colours (even if I
think they'll look better) because I want to stick to the
official Ubuntu colour pallet.

I'm actively planning a small set of variations in popular
colours; I don't think there will be a way to change the colours
via the colour menu - unless there's a hue-shifting algorithm
involved (similar to the one implemented in Vista or Windowblinds).

Anyway, there's another update up on the wiki:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/BasicIdeals?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=fulldesk%28svg%29_v3_2.jpg



the XCF and SVG sources have been updated aswell; the XCF
actually has everything in it now, I uploaded a half-finished XCF
file on the first version, but the new one will be much better
for people who want to use or edit content because it's complete.
For anyone wanting to make a mockup using the files, the Mock-ups
are first edited/rendered in InkScape, then are imported into the
bottom layer of the XCF. You could delete the BG in inkscape and
export a transparent PNG to create a render suitable for porting
into other themes.

Thanks as always,
--Ken V

On Dec 18, 2007 12:42 PM, Corey Woodworth
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:

At first I didn't like this theme, but it is really growing
on me. Of coarse there are things that still need work. The
orange in the theme feels out of place. It just doesn't fit
it because of how heavy the browns are. I think using white
as the selected item color in the menus would look a lot
better. I also think that the notification area needs to use
different colors. It needs to stand out more. Now it hardly
stands out at all since it is the same color as the
background behind it, and of most windows. Speaking of the
windows, I really like the way the titlebar and menu bar are
visuially connected int the active window. In the unactive
window where it looks like just a gradient from brown to tan
looks very ugly to me.

I think this theme is about the prettiest a brown theme could
be, but we would still get a lot of flac from the brown
haters if this were default. I hope that it works well with
the color options in the appearence settings so that keeping
the theme but using a different  color is just a couple of
clicks worth of work.

Corey


On Dec 17, 2007 9:30 PM, Ken Vermette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

Got the link, and thanks to Racoqster for the quick post
on the blog. I know about every langu

Re: [ubuntu-art] Where's the official proposed theme idea?

[Ken Vermette]

One thing I need to say about Vista is they did good with the window
buttons. I'll give em credit where credit is due.

A few weeks before I started this theme I read as many reviews and interface
guidelines as I could, and one was a review on GUI aspects of Vista and OSX.
While they come a dime a dozen, this one was (surprisingly) neutral.

Anyway, when it was on topic about window buttons, one thing it mentioned
constantly was "slamming", where users will slam the mouse onto one edge of
the screen. So, as long as an element touches an edge or a corner (which is
why I'm tempted to make the X cover the complete corner of the window) the
user doesn't need to bother with carefully positioning the mouse over the
button.

While it doesn't sound like a big deal, it's just another thing to look at.
If I rounded the corner then the button would need to be 1 or 2 pixels lower
to accommodate the top-edge, breaking the users ability to slam.

--Ken Vermette

On Dec 19, 2007 6:28 AM, George Brooke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  How about making the window close minimise ect. icons rounded off at the
> top rather like the main menu.
>
> solar.george
>
>
> Ken Vermette wrote:
>
> It's kind of like a mold... Like it or not, it kind grows on you. I hated
> my windows when I made them, and I have a gallery of hideous window ideas
> that I hope will never see the light of day.
>
> Orange is really just a highlight colour in this theme, so it'll
> proballbly look odd on the theme until some widgets are added. When they get
> added though, hopefully the additional orange in the theme will make it feel
> more balanced. I lightened up the brown and slightly altered the orange - so
> it should hopefully be a bit better. I can't really use any other colours
> (even if I think they'll look better) because I want to stick to the
> official Ubuntu colour pallet.
>
> I'm actively planning a small set of variations in popular colours; I
> don't think there will be a way to change the colours via the colour menu -
> unless there's a hue-shifting algorithm involved (similar to the one
> implemented in Vista or Windowblinds).
>
> Anyway, there's another update up on the wiki:
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/BasicIdeals?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=fulldesk%28svg%29_v3_2.jpg
>
>
> the XCF and SVG sources have been updated aswell; the XCF actually has
> everything in it now, I uploaded a half-finished XCF file on the first
> version, but the new one will be much better for people who want to use or
> edit content because it's complete. For anyone wanting to make a mockup
> using the files, the Mock-ups are first edited/rendered in InkScape, then
> are imported into the bottom layer of the XCF. You could delete the BG in
> inkscape and export a transparent PNG to create a render suitable for
> porting into other themes.
>
> Thanks as always,
> --Ken V
>
> On Dec 18, 2007 12:42 PM, Corey Woodworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > At first I didn't like this theme, but it is really growing on me. Of
> > coarse there are things that still need work. The orange in the theme feels
> > out of place. It just doesn't fit it because of how heavy the browns are. I
> > think using white as the selected item color in the menus would look a lot
> > better. I also think that the notification area needs to use different
> > colors. It needs to stand out more. Now it hardly stands out at all since it
> > is the same color as the background behind it, and of most windows. Speaking
> > of the windows, I really like the way the titlebar and menu bar are
> > visuially connected int the active window. In the unactive window where it
> > looks like just a gradient from brown to tan looks very ugly to me.
> >
> > I think this theme is about the prettiest a brown theme could be, but we
> > would still get a lot of flac from the brown haters if this were default. I
> > hope that it works well with the color options in the appearence settings so
> > that keeping the theme but using a different  color is just a couple of
> > clicks worth of work.
> >
> > Corey
> >
> > On Dec 17, 2007 9:30 PM, Ken Vermette <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> >
> > > Got the link, and thanks to Racoqster for the quick post on the blog.
> > > I know about every language BUT python, so I can try to learn python this
> > > weekend and assist in coding later if absolutely necessary; Would it be
> > > possible to work without the configurator?
> > >
> > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/BasicIdeals
> > >
> > >  The Wiki has been updated to include a mockup with all current
> > > elements - and links to the SVG source and XCF source are directly below 
> > > the
> > > image. I'll be downloading some themes that resemble mine (in their
> > > technical composition) and start to figure out how we could get this beast
> > > into a live environment! The XCF source is almost useless, but it can make
> > > life easy if anyone wants to make a mock

Re: [ubuntu-art] Where's the official proposed theme idea?

[George Brooke]

How about making the window close minimise ect. icons rounded off at the 
top rather like the main menu.


solar.george

Ken Vermette wrote:
It's kind of like a mold... Like it or not, it kind grows on you. I 
hated my windows when I made them, and I have a gallery of hideous 
window ideas that I hope will never see the light of day.


Orange is really just a highlight colour in this theme, so it'll 
proballbly look odd on the theme until some widgets are added. When 
they get added though, hopefully the additional orange in the theme 
will make it feel more balanced. I lightened up the brown and slightly 
altered the orange - so it should hopefully be a bit better. I can't 
really use any other colours (even if I think they'll look better) 
because I want to stick to the official Ubuntu colour pallet.


I'm actively planning a small set of variations in popular colours; I 
don't think there will be a way to change the colours via the colour 
menu - unless there's a hue-shifting algorithm involved (similar to 
the one implemented in Vista or Windowblinds).


Anyway, there's another update up on the wiki:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/BasicIdeals?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=fulldesk%28svg%29_v3_2.jpg 



the XCF and SVG sources have been updated aswell; the XCF actually has 
everything in it now, I uploaded a half-finished XCF file on the first 
version, but the new one will be much better for people who want to 
use or edit content because it's complete. For anyone wanting to make 
a mockup using the files, the Mock-ups are first edited/rendered in 
InkScape, then are imported into the bottom layer of the XCF. You 
could delete the BG in inkscape and export a transparent PNG to create 
a render suitable for porting into other themes.


Thanks as always,
--Ken V

On Dec 18, 2007 12:42 PM, Corey Woodworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:


At first I didn't like this theme, but it is really growing on me.
Of coarse there are things that still need work. The orange in the
theme feels out of place. It just doesn't fit it because of how
heavy the browns are. I think using white as the selected item
color in the menus would look a lot better. I also think that the
notification area needs to use different colors. It needs to stand
out more. Now it hardly stands out at all since it is the same
color as the background behind it, and of most windows. Speaking
of the windows, I really like the way the titlebar and menu bar
are visuially connected int the active window. In the unactive
window where it looks like just a gradient from brown to tan looks
very ugly to me.

I think this theme is about the prettiest a brown theme could be,
but we would still get a lot of flac from the brown haters if this
were default. I hope that it works well with the color options in
the appearence settings so that keeping the theme but using a
different  color is just a couple of clicks worth of work.

Corey


On Dec 17, 2007 9:30 PM, Ken Vermette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

Got the link, and thanks to Racoqster for the quick post on
the blog. I know about every language BUT python, so I can try
to learn python this weekend and assist in coding later if
absolutely necessary; Would it be possible to work without the
configurator?


https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/BasicIdeals

The Wiki has been updated to include a mockup with all current
elements - and links to the SVG source and XCF source are
directly below the image. I'll be downloading some themes that
resemble mine (in their technical composition) and start to
figure out how we could get this beast into a live
environment! The XCF source is almost useless, but it can make
life easy if anyone wants to make a mockup with icons & text.

The large mockup doesn't include the most recent requests
(several of which will be integrated), but it gives the
closest impression to what a full desktop would look like
right now - barring the lack of widgets.

Thanks all;
-- Ken V


On Dec 17, 2007 7:51 PM, Iacopo Masi
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

On 12/17/07, Ken Vermette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> There's go GTK yet, currently most of the work is going
into mockups. I need
> to get ahold of the Murrine Developer Andrea Cimitan,
and see about getting
> information on the Transparent GTK tweaks before I start
making the mockups
> live graphics.

   

Re: [ubuntu-art] Where's the official proposed theme idea?

[Ken Vermette]

It's kind of like a mold... Like it or not, it kind grows on you. I hated my
windows when I made them, and I have a gallery of hideous window ideas that
I hope will never see the light of day.

Orange is really just a highlight colour in this theme, so it'll proballbly
look odd on the theme until some widgets are added. When they get added
though, hopefully the additional orange in the theme will make it feel more
balanced. I lightened up the brown and slightly altered the orange - so it
should hopefully be a bit better. I can't really use any other colours (even
if I think they'll look better) because I want to stick to the official
Ubuntu colour pallet.

I'm actively planning a small set of variations in popular colours; I don't
think there will be a way to change the colours via the colour menu - unless
there's a hue-shifting algorithm involved (similar to the one implemented in
Vista or Windowblinds).

Anyway, there's another update up on the wiki:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/BasicIdeals?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=fulldesk%28svg%29_v3_2.jpg

the XCF and SVG sources have been updated aswell; the XCF actually has
everything in it now, I uploaded a half-finished XCF file on the first
version, but the new one will be much better for people who want to use or
edit content because it's complete. For anyone wanting to make a mockup
using the files, the Mock-ups are first edited/rendered in InkScape, then
are imported into the bottom layer of the XCF. You could delete the BG in
inkscape and export a transparent PNG to create a render suitable for
porting into other themes.

Thanks as always,
--Ken V

On Dec 18, 2007 12:42 PM, Corey Woodworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> At first I didn't like this theme, but it is really growing on me. Of
> coarse there are things that still need work. The orange in the theme feels
> out of place. It just doesn't fit it because of how heavy the browns are. I
> think using white as the selected item color in the menus would look a lot
> better. I also think that the notification area needs to use different
> colors. It needs to stand out more. Now it hardly stands out at all since it
> is the same color as the background behind it, and of most windows. Speaking
> of the windows, I really like the way the titlebar and menu bar are
> visuially connected int the active window. In the unactive window where it
> looks like just a gradient from brown to tan looks very ugly to me.
>
> I think this theme is about the prettiest a brown theme could be, but we
> would still get a lot of flac from the brown haters if this were default. I
> hope that it works well with the color options in the appearence settings so
> that keeping the theme but using a different  color is just a couple of
> clicks worth of work.
>
> Corey
>
>
> On Dec 17, 2007 9:30 PM, Ken Vermette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Got the link, and thanks to Racoqster for the quick post on the blog. I
> > know about every language BUT python, so I can try to learn python this
> > weekend and assist in coding later if absolutely necessary; Would it be
> > possible to work without the configurator?
> >
> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/BasicIdeals
> >
> > The Wiki has been updated to include a mockup with all current elements
> > - and links to the SVG source and XCF source are directly below the image.
> > I'll be downloading some themes that resemble mine (in their technical
> > composition) and start to figure out how we could get this beast into a live
> > environment! The XCF source is almost useless, but it can make life easy if
> > anyone wants to make a mockup with icons & text.
> >
> > The large mockup doesn't include the most recent requests (several of
> > which will be integrated), but it gives the closest impression to what a
> > full desktop would look like right now - barring the lack of widgets.
> >
> > Thanks all;
> > -- Ken V
> >
> >
> > On Dec 17, 2007 7:51 PM, Iacopo Masi <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On 12/17/07, Ken Vermette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > There's go GTK yet, currently most of the work is going into
> > > mockups. I need
> > > > to get ahold of the Murrine Developer Andrea Cimitan, and see about
> > > getting
> > > > information on the Transparent GTK tweaks before I start making the
> > > mockups
> > > > live graphics.
> > >
> > > Cimi will release the code when a Murrine Configurator should be
> > > available so we must work towards the murrine configurator in pygtk.
> > >
> > > take a look at
> > >
> > > http://www.cimitan.com/blog/2007/12/16/searching-coders-for-the-murrine-configurator/
> > >
> > > --
> > > Iacopo Masi
> > >
> > > --
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> > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Where's the official proposed theme idea?

[Corey Woodworth]

At first I didn't like this theme, but it is really growing on me. Of coarse
there are things that still need work. The orange in the theme feels out of
place. It just doesn't fit it because of how heavy the browns are. I think
using white as the selected item color in the menus would look a lot better.
I also think that the notification area needs to use different colors. It
needs to stand out more. Now it hardly stands out at all since it is the
same color as the background behind it, and of most windows. Speaking of the
windows, I really like the way the titlebar and menu bar are visuially
connected int the active window. In the unactive window where it looks like
just a gradient from brown to tan looks very ugly to me.

I think this theme is about the prettiest a brown theme could be, but we
would still get a lot of flac from the brown haters if this were default. I
hope that it works well with the color options in the appearence settings so
that keeping the theme but using a different  color is just a couple of
clicks worth of work.

Corey

On Dec 17, 2007 9:30 PM, Ken Vermette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Got the link, and thanks to Racoqster for the quick post on the blog. I
> know about every language BUT python, so I can try to learn python this
> weekend and assist in coding later if absolutely necessary; Would it be
> possible to work without the configurator?
>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/BasicIdeals
>
> The Wiki has been updated to include a mockup with all current elements -
> and links to the SVG source and XCF source are directly below the image.
> I'll be downloading some themes that resemble mine (in their technical
> composition) and start to figure out how we could get this beast into a live
> environment! The XCF source is almost useless, but it can make life easy if
> anyone wants to make a mockup with icons & text.
>
> The large mockup doesn't include the most recent requests (several of
> which will be integrated), but it gives the closest impression to what a
> full desktop would look like right now - barring the lack of widgets.
>
> Thanks all;
> -- Ken V
>
>
> On Dec 17, 2007 7:51 PM, Iacopo Masi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On 12/17/07, Ken Vermette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > There's go GTK yet, currently most of the work is going into mockups.
> > I need
> > > to get ahold of the Murrine Developer Andrea Cimitan, and see about
> > getting
> > > information on the Transparent GTK tweaks before I start making the
> > mockups
> > > live graphics.
> >
> > Cimi will release the code when a Murrine Configurator should be
> > available so we must work towards the murrine configurator in pygtk.
> >
> > take a look at
> >
> > http://www.cimitan.com/blog/2007/12/16/searching-coders-for-the-murrine-configurator/
> >
> > --
> > Iacopo Masi
> >
> > --
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Where's the official proposed theme idea?

[Ken Vermette]

Got the link, and thanks to Racoqster for the quick post on the blog. I know
about every language BUT python, so I can try to learn python this weekend
and assist in coding later if absolutely necessary; Would it be possible to
work without the configurator?

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/BasicIdeals

The Wiki has been updated to include a mockup with all current elements -
and links to the SVG source and XCF source are directly below the image.
I'll be downloading some themes that resemble mine (in their technical
composition) and start to figure out how we could get this beast into a live
environment! The XCF source is almost useless, but it can make life easy if
anyone wants to make a mockup with icons & text.

The large mockup doesn't include the most recent requests (several of which
will be integrated), but it gives the closest impression to what a full
desktop would look like right now - barring the lack of widgets.

Thanks all;
-- Ken V

On Dec 17, 2007 7:51 PM, Iacopo Masi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 12/17/07, Ken Vermette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > There's go GTK yet, currently most of the work is going into mockups. I
> need
> > to get ahold of the Murrine Developer Andrea Cimitan, and see about
> getting
> > information on the Transparent GTK tweaks before I start making the
> mockups
> > live graphics.
>
> Cimi will release the code when a Murrine Configurator should be
> available so we must work towards the murrine configurator in pygtk.
>
> take a look at
>
>
> http://www.cimitan.com/blog/2007/12/16/searching-coders-for-the-murrine-configurator/
> --
> Iacopo Masi
>
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Where's the official proposed theme idea?

[Iacopo Masi]

On 12/17/07, Ken Vermette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There's go GTK yet, currently most of the work is going into mockups. I need
> to get ahold of the Murrine Developer Andrea Cimitan, and see about getting
> information on the Transparent GTK tweaks before I start making the mockups
> live graphics.

Cimi will release the code when a Murrine Configurator should be
available so we must work towards the murrine configurator in pygtk.

take a look at

http://www.cimitan.com/blog/2007/12/16/searching-coders-for-the-murrine-configurator/
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Where's the official proposed theme idea?

[Ken Vermette]

I'll post a huge mockup with all elements within a couple hours (I'm
starting it after I finish this message), and I'll post the SVG source in a
link below it. Once it's completed, I'll also post links to everything to
the mailing list as well. That way we have a single image that can reference
all elements in a single place.

There's pressure for a black and orange theme, and several other colours
(Ubuntu Studio look-alike and a silver/pearl theme); if I can, I'll post
mockups for those tonight as well in a second wiki sub-section (it's enough
maintaining the main wiki with a single alternate set of colours, so a new
sub-section will help me keep updates cleaner and more regular). Also, since
it's only colour swaps for the most part, if and when alternate themes are
added, we'll be able to just swap out graphics and colours when the time
comes.

Is there a way that we can allow users to select colours in an SVG-based
theme? If there is, then I can make any changes necessary in order to give
users that option. Otherwise, I can just make several versions of the
colouring scheme. Also, should I get ahold of Ubuntu Studio and other
Ubuntu-based distros and see if they might want variations of the theme?

Anyway, after the update tell me if there's anything more anyone needs. I'll
send links to the content when I have it ready.
Thanks;
-Ken V


On Dec 17, 2007 12:26 PM, xl cheese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Well stop whistling dixie and post up the mocks you have. :)
>
>
>
>  --
> Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 04:17:48 -0500
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] Where's the official proposed theme idea?
>
>
> There's go GTK yet, currently most of the work is going into mockups. I
> need to get ahold of the Murrine Developer Andrea Cimitan, and see about
> getting information on the Transparent GTK tweaks before I start making the
> mockups live graphics.
>
> Also, the theme is still having regular design updates as I get feedback;
> I believe several elements are solid though, such as the panels,
> notifications, tooltips and the like.
>
> The actual widgets themselves will (hopefully) have similar opacity
> properties as
> http://arstechnica.com/journals/linux.media/murrine_glass.jpg , widgets
> such as sliders and buttons will be similarly styled as current Ubuntu
> elements, and organizational elements like tabs and boxes will look more
> like Oxygen-derived elements (in how they fade into the main content)
>
> So far though, if it looks good enough to everyone, we could narrow down
> what's possible and what's not - I know this theme has several technical
> hurdles; But maybe if we get something working we could iron it out and see
> what's possible...
>
> --
> -Ken Vermette
>
>
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Where's the official proposed theme idea?

[sylvain marc]

Ken, it was a verry good theme (
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/BasicIdeals),...
I hope it will exist in dark colors too.

2007/12/17, xl cheese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Well stop whistling dixie and post up the mocks you have. :)
>
>
>
>  --
> Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 04:17:48 -0500
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] Where's the official proposed theme idea?
>
> There's go GTK yet, currently most of the work is going into mockups. I
> need to get ahold of the Murrine Developer Andrea Cimitan, and see about
> getting information on the Transparent GTK tweaks before I start making the
> mockups live graphics.
>
> Also, the theme is still having regular design updates as I get feedback;
> I believe several elements are solid though, such as the panels,
> notifications, tooltips and the like.
>
> The actual widgets themselves will (hopefully) have similar opacity
> properties as
> http://arstechnica.com/journals/linux.media/murrine_glass.jpg , widgets
> such as sliders and buttons will be similarly styled as current Ubuntu
> elements, and organizational elements like tabs and boxes will look more
> like Oxygen-derived elements (in how they fade into the main content)
>
> So far though, if it looks good enough to everyone, we could narrow down
> what's possible and what's not - I know this theme has several technical
> hurdles; But maybe if we get something working we could iron it out and see
> what's possible...
>
> --
> -Ken Vermette
>
>
> --
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Where's the official proposed theme idea?

[xl cheese]

Well stop whistling dixie and post up the mocks you have. :)


Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 04:17:48 -0500From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]: Re: [ubuntu-art] Where's the official proposed theme idea?There's 
go GTK yet, currently most of the work is going into mockups. I need to get 
ahold of the Murrine Developer Andrea Cimitan, and see about getting 
information on the Transparent GTK tweaks before I start making the mockups 
live graphics. Also, the theme is still having regular design updates as I get 
feedback; I believe several elements are solid though, such as the panels, 
notifications, tooltips and the like.The actual widgets themselves will 
(hopefully) have similar opacity properties as  
http://arstechnica.com/journals/linux.media/murrine_glass.jpg , widgets such as 
sliders and buttons will be similarly styled as current Ubuntu elements, and 
organizational elements like tabs and boxes will look more like Oxygen-derived 
elements (in how they fade into the main content) So far though, if it looks 
good enough to everyone, we could narrow down what's possible and what's not - 
I know this theme has several technical hurdles; But maybe if we get something 
working we could iron it out and see what's possible... -- -Ken Vermette 
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Where's the official proposed theme idea?

[Ken Vermette]

There's go GTK yet, currently most of the work is going into mockups. I need
to get ahold of the Murrine Developer Andrea Cimitan, and see about getting
information on the Transparent GTK tweaks before I start making the mockups
live graphics.

Also, the theme is still having regular design updates as I get feedback; I
believe several elements are solid though, such as the panels,
notifications, tooltips and the like.

The actual widgets themselves will (hopefully) have similar opacity
properties as  http://arstechnica.com/journals/linux.media/murrine_glass.jpg,
widgets such as sliders and buttons will be similarly styled as
current
Ubuntu elements, and organizational elements like tabs and boxes will look
more like Oxygen-derived elements (in how they fade into the main content)

So far though, if it looks good enough to everyone, we could narrow down
what's possible and what's not - I know this theme has several technical
hurdles; But maybe if we get something working we could iron it out and see
what's possible...

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Where's the official proposed theme idea?

[xl cheese]

I'd love to check out the gtk and metacity for this.  Could you send it to me?

Thanks,
wes

> Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 08:25:39 -0800
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] Where's the official proposed theme idea?
> 
> Hey; I know I'm probably very late to the party when it comes to submitting 
> this stuff, but hopefully it's in time for either consideration or even just 
> half-useful input.
> 
> Other Wiki guys and myself have been working on the GTK and Emerald/Metacity 
> themes; We've just gotten enough polish to be worth showing you guys:
> 
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/BasicIdeals
> 
> It's still in draft-format, but it's completly SVG and would use the Murrine 
> Engine with semitransparencies. There would be 4 Emerald/Metacity themes, and 
> 2 GTK themes, for varying hardware and an alternate colour theme for Blubuntu 
> fans.
> 
> I've kept track of the mailing list (and I was the Ken in the Art meeting, 
> sorry to Wimer if people thought I was you) and I think I have (most) of the 
> concepts discussed in the theme itself. Would this theme be worth modding or 
> changing to be accepted as the default Ubuntu theme? Or should we just 
> continue working on it and try throwing it in as an alt theme? Or is it too 
> late to the party?
> 
> -Ken Vermette

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Where's the official proposed theme idea?

[Anton Kerezov]

Perfect! congrats on the wonderful work you have done. I would like this
as a default theme, too.

В сб, 2007-12-15 в 08:25 -0800, Ken Vermette написа:
> Hey; I know I'm probably very late to the party when it comes to
> submitting this stuff, but hopefully it's in time for either
> consideration or even just half-useful input.
> 
> Other Wiki guys and myself have been working on the GTK and
> Emerald/Metacity themes; We've just gotten enough polish to be worth
> showing you guys: 
> 
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/BasicIdeals
> 
> It's still in draft-format, but it's completly SVG and would use the
> Murrine Engine with semitransparencies. There would be 4
> Emerald/Metacity themes, and 2 GTK themes, for varying hardware and an
> alternate colour theme for Blubuntu fans. 
> 
> I've kept track of the mailing list (and I was the Ken in the Art
> meeting, sorry to Wimer if people thought I was you) and I think I
> have (most) of the concepts discussed in the theme itself. Would this
> theme be worth modding or changing to be accepted as the default
> Ubuntu theme? Or should we just continue working on it and try
> throwing it in as an alt theme? Or is it too late to the party? 
> 
> -Ken Vermette


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Re: [ubuntu-art] Where's the official proposed theme idea?

[Hylke Bons]

+1
Polise and shine, yet not overdone, perfect ubuntu feel, awesome! :)
I think all these things are possible, but it will be a huge task to 
implement it.

Hylke

Álvaro Medina Ballester wrote:
> Ken, this is one of the best Ubuntu themes I've ever seen!
>
> Cheers.
>
> 2007/12/15, Ken Vermette < [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> >:
>
> Hey; I know I'm probably very late to the party when it comes to
> submitting this stuff, but hopefully it's in time for either
> consideration or even just half-useful input.
>
> Other Wiki guys and myself have been working on the GTK and
> Emerald/Metacity themes; We've just gotten enough polish to be
> worth showing you guys:
>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/BasicIdeals
> 
>
> It's still in draft-format, but it's completly SVG and would use
> the Murrine Engine with semitransparencies. There would be 4
> Emerald/Metacity themes, and 2 GTK themes, for varying hardware
> and an alternate colour theme for Blubuntu fans.
>
> I've kept track of the mailing list (and I was the Ken in the Art
> meeting, sorry to Wimer if people thought I was you) and I think I
> have (most) of the concepts discussed in the theme itself. Would
> this theme be worth modding or changing to be accepted as the
> default Ubuntu theme? Or should we just continue working on it and
> try throwing it in as an alt theme? Or is it too late to the party?
>
> -Ken Vermette
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Where's the official proposed theme idea?

[George Brooke]

That's a default theme that I would use - I normally change the theme 
very quickly after a new install.


solar.george

Álvaro Medina Ballester wrote:

Ken, this is one of the best Ubuntu themes I've ever seen!

Cheers.

2007/12/15, Ken Vermette < [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>:


Hey; I know I'm probably very late to the party when it comes to
submitting this stuff, but hopefully it's in time for either
consideration or even just half-useful input.

Other Wiki guys and myself have been working on the GTK and
Emerald/Metacity themes; We've just gotten enough polish to be
worth showing you guys:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/BasicIdeals


It's still in draft-format, but it's completly SVG and would use
the Murrine Engine with semitransparencies. There would be 4
Emerald/Metacity themes, and 2 GTK themes, for varying hardware
and an alternate colour theme for Blubuntu fans.

I've kept track of the mailing list (and I was the Ken in the Art
meeting, sorry to Wimer if people thought I was you) and I think I
have (most) of the concepts discussed in the theme itself. Would
this theme be worth modding or changing to be accepted as the
default Ubuntu theme? Or should we just continue working on it and
try throwing it in as an alt theme? Or is it too late to the party?

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Where's the official proposed theme idea?

[Álvaro Medina Ballester]

Ken, this is one of the best Ubuntu themes I've ever seen!
Cheers.

2007/12/15, Ken Vermette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Hey; I know I'm probably very late to the party when it comes to
> submitting this stuff, but hopefully it's in time for either consideration
> or even just half-useful input.
>
> Other Wiki guys and myself have been working on the GTK and
> Emerald/Metacity themes; We've just gotten enough polish to be worth showing
> you guys:
>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/BasicIdeals
>
> It's still in draft-format, but it's completly SVG and would use the
> Murrine Engine with semitransparencies. There would be 4 Emerald/Metacity
> themes, and 2 GTK themes, for varying hardware and an alternate colour theme
> for Blubuntu fans.
>
> I've kept track of the mailing list (and I was the Ken in the Art meeting,
> sorry to Wimer if people thought I was you) and I think I have (most) of the
> concepts discussed in the theme itself. Would this theme be worth modding or
> changing to be accepted as the default Ubuntu theme? Or should we just
> continue working on it and try throwing it in as an alt theme? Or is it too
> late to the party?
>
> -Ken Vermette
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> ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
>
>


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Re: [ubuntu-art] Where's the official proposed theme idea?

[Ken Vermette]

Hey; I know I'm probably very late to the party when it comes to submitting
this stuff, but hopefully it's in time for either consideration or even just
half-useful input.

Other Wiki guys and myself have been working on the GTK and Emerald/Metacity
themes; We've just gotten enough polish to be worth showing you guys:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/BasicIdeals

It's still in draft-format, but it's completly SVG and would use the Murrine
Engine with semitransparencies. There would be 4 Emerald/Metacity themes,
and 2 GTK themes, for varying hardware and an alternate colour theme for
Blubuntu fans.

I've kept track of the mailing list (and I was the Ken in the Art meeting,
sorry to Wimer if people thought I was you) and I think I have (most) of the
concepts discussed in the theme itself. Would this theme be worth modding or
changing to be accepted as the default Ubuntu theme? Or should we just
continue working on it and try throwing it in as an alt theme? Or is it too
late to the party?

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Where's the official proposed theme idea?

[Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen]

On 14/12/2007, Kenneth Wimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Oh, and I forgot to mention that I am on holiday as well ;-)

Stop answering your mails then :-) If you lived in Denmark you could
get in troube with the union :-)

Cheers,
Mikkel

PS: I expect that you will kindly *not* respond to this mail and go
get some Margeritas instead.

> On Friday 14 December 2007 16:28:11 Kenneth Wimer wrote:
> > On Friday 14 December 2007 16:21:58 xl cheese wrote:
> > > I've been reading over the last 3 weeks that by the next week we'll have
> > > the official theme direction laid out.  Feels like we're burnin'
> > > daylight.
> >
> > Nope, it is coming really soon now (as in within a couple of days). As
> > always, the decisions were harder to make than expected, some are nailed
> > down and others are not - due to this I wanted to get the information
> > together and then have it checked by others before I made it public.
> >
> > The specs will be changing today and the rest of the info should be out in
> > a day or two.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Where's the official proposed theme idea?

[Kenneth Wimer]

Oh, and I forgot to mention that I am on holiday as well ;-)

On Friday 14 December 2007 16:28:11 Kenneth Wimer wrote:
> On Friday 14 December 2007 16:21:58 xl cheese wrote:
> > I've been reading over the last 3 weeks that by the next week we'll have
> > the official theme direction laid out.  Feels like we're burnin'
> > daylight.
>
> Nope, it is coming really soon now (as in within a couple of days). As
> always, the decisions were harder to make than expected, some are nailed
> down and others are not - due to this I wanted to get the information
> together and then have it checked by others before I made it public.
>
> The specs will be changing today and the rest of the info should be out in
> a day or two.
>
> --
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Where's the official proposed theme idea?

[Kenneth Wimer]

On Friday 14 December 2007 16:21:58 xl cheese wrote:
> I've been reading over the last 3 weeks that by the next week we'll have
> the official theme direction laid out.  Feels like we're burnin' daylight.

Nope, it is coming really soon now (as in within a couple of days). As always, 
the decisions were harder to make than expected, some are nailed down and 
others are not - due to this I wanted to get the information together and 
then have it checked by others before I made it public.

The specs will be changing today and the rest of the info should be out in a 
day or two.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Where's the official proposed theme idea?

[xl cheese]

 
I've been reading over the last 3 weeks that by the next week we'll have the 
official theme direction laid out.  Feels like we're burnin' daylight.
 
-wes
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