Re: [ubuntu-art] bringing good things to life

2007-01-04 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
2007/1/4, Matthew Nuzum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> OK, I've been a part of the art-team since the very beginning. We started
> out by being a bunch of people who liked art and wanted to help the Ubuntu
> community in some way... some by contributing web graphics (powered by
> ubuntu, etc), some by creating wall papers, others by creating themes, and
> yet others by simply giving feedback and encouragement.
>
> Then, we had a drive to make the art-team productive... instead of just
> being a community of artists and enthusiasts we became driven to produce
> something. Make specs, complete specs, etc. That's not bad, but its starting
> to feel like the team is burned out and it appears that activity has
> plummeted.
>
> While we struggle to regain our identity and get back on track to produce
> something, lets distract ourselves a bit and return to our roots. Let's just
> do art for fun again for a while.
>
> Here's my suggestion. But first, some people know that I have a
> canonical.com email address... I am not using that address because I am
> speaking as a fellow art-team member. This is just my own personal
> hair-brained idea, not that of my employer.
>
> Many people participate and contribute to the Ubuntu community by creating
> packages that get into Universe. Now, while it's really exciting to have
> packages in main, it's still cool to be in Universe and a lot of people use
> it.
>
> My suggestion is that we create a package called art-team-edgy (or
> art-team-feisty) and elect an "artist in chief" (aic) for a release. The
> team, lead by the aic, will choose a palette and a few guidelines and then
> engage the community to create a desktop artwork package that meets the
> guidelines. To complement the package we would also have
> art-team-edgy-calendar (or whatever) that would have a new background
> monthly until the next release and then continuing on as long as that
> release's aic gets contributions.
>
> I'm not suggesting a coup, I'm just suggesting something to make
> contributing art fun. Maybe our process will get good enough so that one day
> we could get art-team-* into main, but again, by not making that the
> immediate goal it gives us a lot of freedom. It also gives a lot of artists
> the opportunity to contribute, since new backgrounds will be out monthly.
>
> The aic would be elected by the team and would be the person to make the
> final decision for art during that release. The team would vote and cast
> opinions, but it would be the tabdfr (team appointed benevolent dictator for
> release) who gets to take the votes into consideration and make the final
> call - note that this is different than a democracy, the only democratic
> part is who the aic is. This is just a suggestion, I'll leave it to the team
> to decide how the role should work if we decide to do this, but my $0.02
> worth is that without a leader to make a final, potentially difficult
> decision, some important decisions will get lost in the committees.
>
> So, Feisty releases in a few months. We know practically nothing about what
> to expect for that release, but that's OK. We know it will use gnome 2.18
> and soon we'll know if it will have a compositing window manager. If we're
> not aiming for main, we can do whatever we want... polka dots, stripes,
> flames, kittens, whatever. We can choose our palette, our icon theme
> (although it makes sense to go with the flow of course), everything!
>
> OK, I've been thinking about this for a while, and I even mentioned the
> calendar idea a couple months ago... I saw the recent bug report (#77289)
> and this forum thread recently
> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=326420 and decided
> to get my it in gear and actually do something (send this e-mail).
>
> How about some people +1 this if they like the idea, ensuring to note if
> they feel competent enough to contribute a monthly background. We'd also
> need a person willing to be the scape goat and be the first aic...

+1 for a reboot :-)

I say - let open the floodgates once again. Let's have a storm of what
ever people create, mockups, screenies, wallies, themes, logins,
splashes (just like the good old warty/hoary days). Find some stuff we
can agree on looks cool, and then work in that direction.

If I know in good time what my deadline will be and what general theme
and guideline to follow,  I could contribute a calender wallpaper.

Cheers,
Mikkel

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Re: [ubuntu-art] bringing good things to life

2007-01-04 Thread Angus Prune
On 1/4/07, Nathan Eckenrode <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wednesday 03 January 2007 22:32, Matthew Nuzum wrote:
>
> > How about some people +1 this if they like the idea, ensuring to note if
> > they feel competent enough to contribute a monthly background. We'd also
> > need a person willing to be the scape goat and be the first aic...
>
> +1 idea, with the caveat that I prefer KDE.

+1 idea.  I've not contributed anything to the art team yet, but would
like to and this sounds like a way into creating artwork for the
project.  (For someone who has never contributed to OSS before)

(ditto on the KDE)



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Re: [ubuntu-art] bringing good things to life

2007-01-04 Thread Who
On 1/4/07, Matthew Nuzum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> How about some people +1 this if they like the idea, ensuring to note if
> they feel competent enough to contribute a monthly background. We'd also
> need a person willing to be the scape goat and be the first aic...
> --
> Matthew Nuzum

+1

As long as people are clear what we are working towards (universe)
then it's great - I wouldn't like to see so many people feeling like
they had wasted so much effort as for the last release

I'd love to 'rejuvenate' Blubuntu for Feisty as well as contributing
to the main community theme.

I don't have nearly as much time as I did for Edgy, but I'd love to play a role.

Who

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Re: [ubuntu-art] bringing good things to life

2007-01-03 Thread Chuck Huber
Thanks Matthew! +1

It might not be evident from the recent past but anyone who's been
around this group for a while knows that we really have all the makings
for a greatness.  I think we're going to have to drop whatever happened
in the past and start back on a similar path with somewhat altered
expectations.  As Matthew mentioned, it's different but still
worthwhile.  

Chuck 


> 
> How about some people +1 this if they like the idea, ensuring to note
> if they feel competent enough to contribute a monthly background. We'd
> also need a person willing to be the scape goat and be the first
> aic... 
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> www.bearfruit.org
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Re: [ubuntu-art] bringing good things to life

2007-01-03 Thread Nathan Eckenrode
On Wednesday 03 January 2007 22:32, Matthew Nuzum wrote:

> How about some people +1 this if they like the idea, ensuring to note if
> they feel competent enough to contribute a monthly background. We'd also
> need a person willing to be the scape goat and be the first aic...

+1 idea, with the caveat that I prefer KDE.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] bringing good things to life

2007-01-03 Thread Troy James Sobotka
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Matthew Nuzum wrote:
> How about some people +1 this if they like the idea, ensuring to note if
> they feel competent enough to contribute a monthly background. We'd also
> need a person willing to be the scape goat and be the first aic...

+1 brilliant idea really.  So simple it is almost a no brainer.

Let's see how the rest of the folks feel.


Sincerely,
TJS

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[ubuntu-art] bringing good things to life

2007-01-03 Thread Matthew Nuzum

OK, I've been a part of the art-team since the very beginning. We started
out by being a bunch of people who liked art and wanted to help the Ubuntu
community in some way... some by contributing web graphics (powered by
ubuntu, etc), some by creating wall papers, others by creating themes, and
yet others by simply giving feedback and encouragement.

Then, we had a drive to make the art-team productive... instead of just
being a community of artists and enthusiasts we became driven to produce
something. Make specs, complete specs, etc. That's not bad, but its starting
to feel like the team is burned out and it appears that activity has
plummeted.

While we struggle to regain our identity and get back on track to produce
something, lets distract ourselves a bit and return to our roots. Let's just
do art for fun again for a while.

Here's my suggestion. But first, some people know that I have a
canonical.com email address... I am not using that address because I am
speaking as a fellow art-team member. This is just my own personal
hair-brained idea, not that of my employer.

Many people participate and contribute to the Ubuntu community by creating
packages that get into Universe. Now, while it's really exciting to have
packages in main, it's still cool to be in Universe and a lot of people use
it.

My suggestion is that we create a package called art-team-edgy (or
art-team-feisty) and elect an "artist in chief" (aic) for a release. The
team, lead by the aic, will choose a palette and a few guidelines and then
engage the community to create a desktop artwork package that meets the
guidelines. To complement the package we would also have
art-team-edgy-calendar (or whatever) that would have a new background
monthly until the next release and then continuing on as long as that
release's aic gets contributions.

I'm not suggesting a coup, I'm just suggesting something to make
contributing art fun. Maybe our process will get good enough so that one day
we could get art-team-* into main, but again, by not making that the
immediate goal it gives us a lot of freedom. It also gives a lot of artists
the opportunity to contribute, since new backgrounds will be out monthly.

The aic would be elected by the team and would be the person to make the
final decision for art during that release. The team would vote and cast
opinions, but it would be the tabdfr (team appointed benevolent dictator for
release) who gets to take the votes into consideration and make the final
call - note that this is different than a democracy, the only democratic
part is who the aic is. This is just a suggestion, I'll leave it to the team
to decide how the role should work if we decide to do this, but my $0.02
worth is that without a leader to make a final, potentially difficult
decision, some important decisions will get lost in the committees.

So, Feisty releases in a few months. We know practically nothing about what
to expect for that release, but that's OK. We know it will use gnome
2.18and soon we'll know if it will have a compositing window manager.
If we're
not aiming for main, we can do whatever we want... polka dots, stripes,
flames, kittens, whatever. We can choose our palette, our icon theme
(although it makes sense to go with the flow of course), everything!

OK, I've been thinking about this for a while, and I even mentioned the
calendar idea a couple months ago... I saw the recent bug report (#77289)
and this forum thread recently
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=326420 and decided to get my it in
gear and actually do something (send this e-mail).

How about some people +1 this if they like the idea, ensuring to note if
they feel competent enough to contribute a monthly background. We'd also
need a person willing to be the scape goat and be the first aic...
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