Re: [ubuntu-art] Bland welcome screen...

2010-06-19 Thread Duy Anh Nguyễn
The GDM wallpaper uses same as main wallpaper of Ubuntu, but the GDM wallpaper 
not smooth as main wallpaper. It has a bit sharp and noise. The main wallpaper 
also has a problem. In the dark area (left down corner), the color has some 
noise and not smooth. My laptop is 1280*800.




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> Từ: "Kenneth Wimer‎" 
> Đến: ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com
> Chủ đề: Re: [ubuntu-art] Bland welcome screen...
> Ngày: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 22:55:00 +0200
> 
> 
>On Thursday, June 17, 2010 06:38:56 pm Сергей wrote:
> > > Actually I use GDM for logging in but the boot experience is simply a
> > > black screen until GDM appears (fresh install; didn't touch any config
> > > files).
> > > > I was hopping for a smooth boot experience for 10.04 but it seems that 
> > > > at
> > > least my machine still does not play nice with plymouth.
> >
> > Plymouth can be shown for a very short time because most boot time is
> > spent on kernel init and plumbing, and Plymouth works only during
> > X.org and GDM init, which take 1-2 seconds. You can have a look at
> > bootcharts at http://people.canonical.com/~scott/daily-bootcharts/,
> > look for plymouth (not plymouthd) there.
> >
> > IMO, plain login screen is a real problem for look and feel of Ubuntu,
> > but changing it goes far beyond artwork. Karmic GDM mockups
> > (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Boot/Demo/) looked
> > great, but what we got in the end?
> 
> Facts are, if you don't have a graphic card which KMS supports you are going
> to have a lessened graphical experience. I have one machine which looks
> particularly bad but after much effort I can only place the blame on the
> graphics card (switching it with another makes the problems go away).
> 
> GDM is another matter which the design team still needs to tackle. We've
> concentrated our efforts in other areas until now but we will eventually get
> there :-)
> 
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Bland welcome screen...

2010-06-17 Thread Kenneth Wimer
On Thursday, June 17, 2010 06:38:56 pm Сергей wrote:
> > Actually I use GDM for logging in but the boot experience is simply a
> > black screen until GDM appears (fresh install; didn't touch any config
> > files).
> > 
> > I was hopping for a smooth boot experience for 10.04 but it seems that at
> > least my machine still does not play nice with plymouth.
> 
> Plymouth can be shown for a very short time because most boot time is
> spent on kernel init and plumbing, and Plymouth works only during
> X.org and GDM init, which take 1-2 seconds. You can have a look at
> bootcharts at http://people.canonical.com/~scott/daily-bootcharts/,
> look for plymouth (not plymouthd) there.
> 
> IMO, plain login screen is a real problem for look and feel of Ubuntu,
> but changing it goes far beyond artwork. Karmic GDM mockups
> (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Boot/Demo/) looked
> great, but what we got in the end?

Facts are, if you don't have a graphic card which KMS supports you are going 
to have a lessened graphical experience. I have one machine which looks 
particularly bad but after much effort I can only place the blame on the 
graphics card (switching it with another makes the problems go away).

GDM is another matter which the design team still needs to tackle. We've 
concentrated our efforts in other areas until now but we will eventually get 
there :-)

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Bland welcome screen...

2010-06-17 Thread Krenar Qehaja
On Thursday, June 17, 2010 18:38:56 Сергей wrote:
> Plymouth can be shown for a very short time because most boot time is
> spent on kernel init and plumbing, and Plymouth works only during
> X.org and GDM init, which take 1-2 seconds. You can have a look at
> bootcharts at http://people.canonical.com/~scott/daily-bootcharts/,
> look for plymouth (not plymouthd) there.

Thanks for letting me know about Plymouth; I thought it is one of the first 
processes that get executed while booting.

But I still have a black screen for ~20 secs until GDM shows up. That makes 
the boot experience really bad.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Bland welcome screen...

2010-06-17 Thread Сергей
> Actually I use GDM for logging in but the boot experience is simply a black
> screen until GDM appears (fresh install; didn't touch any config files).
>
> I was hopping for a smooth boot experience for 10.04 but it seems that at
> least my machine still does not play nice with plymouth.

Plymouth can be shown for a very short time because most boot time is
spent on kernel init and plumbing, and Plymouth works only during
X.org and GDM init, which take 1-2 seconds. You can have a look at
bootcharts at http://people.canonical.com/~scott/daily-bootcharts/,
look for plymouth (not plymouthd) there.

IMO, plain login screen is a real problem for look and feel of Ubuntu,
but changing it goes far beyond artwork. Karmic GDM mockups
(https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Boot/Demo/) looked
great, but what we got in the end?

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Bland welcome screen...

2010-06-17 Thread Krenar Qehaja
On Thursday, June 17, 2010 06:54:20 Samuel Loy wrote:
> Yeah I don't use the login screen, though I do wish the purple screen could
> change

Actually I use GDM for logging in but the boot experience is simply a black 
screen until GDM appears (fresh install; didn't touch any config files).

I was hopping for a smooth boot experience for 10.04 but it seems that at 
least my machine still does not play nice with plymouth.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Bland welcome screen...

2010-06-16 Thread Samuel Loy
Yeah I don't use the login screen, though I do wish the purple screen could
change



On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 9:40 PM, Krenar Qehaja  wrote:

> On Thursday, June 17, 2010 04:10:06 Tony Jiang wrote:
> > I don't know on other systems, but on mine it's mostly a blank black
> screen
> > during boot, and then it has the loading screen for a few seconds.
>
> That's what I get on my Dell Latitude D830 too.
>
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Bland welcome screen...

2010-06-16 Thread Krenar Qehaja
On Thursday, June 17, 2010 04:10:06 Tony Jiang wrote:
> I don't know on other systems, but on mine it's mostly a blank black screen
> during boot, and then it has the loading screen for a few seconds.

That's what I get on my Dell Latitude D830 too.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Bland welcome screen...

2010-06-16 Thread Tony Jiang
I don't know on other systems, but on mine it's mostly a blank black screen
during boot, and then it has the loading screen for a few seconds. I don't
use the login screen.

SLiM has some neat themes. However I doubt it will be used.

I don't know how you could make a login screen more high tech though. All
you do is click your name and type in the password :S

On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 2:35 PM, Brian L. Fraser wrote:

> Now I know Ubuntu 10.04 is themed a lot better than the previous
> versions. You know getting the new "Shiny" look instead of that god
> awful rusty looking brown... What about the welcome / login screen.
> Since it is the first thing you see when booting up Ubuntu, can't we
> make it look a little snazzier, interesting, a little more high tech?
>
> Thanks for listening to me ramble
>
> -Breezy-
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