Re: [ubuntu-art] ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 39, Issue 67
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 8:56 AM, Vadim Peretokin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > it seems that Canonical in fact didn't hire designers to do the artwork. :( >> >> Smartboy >> > > > That is an interesting expectation there :-) > > -- > ubuntu-art mailing list > ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art > > It was the only logical solution I, and many others, could think of if the Art team wasn't making a theme and there was supposed to be one in time for Intrepid. Guess we were expecting too much though. ;) Smartboy -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 39, Issue 67
> > it seems that Canonical in fact didn't hire designers to do the artwork. :( > > Smartboy > That is an interesting expectation there :-) -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 39, Issue 67
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 7:08 AM, Vadim Peretokin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > GUI's didn't exist in the 80's in this form, there's a reason why Gnome is > the leading DE, there's a reason why Ubuntu is winning every distro usage > poll, and there's a reason this art team is here. > > You seem to be completely clueless, so please read first before posting. > > Thank you. > > -- > ubuntu-art mailing list > ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art > > There is, it is called the availability of themes. So far, most Linux users (yes, even Ubuntu ones) are computer literate enough to either find themes on their own or ask on the forum where those themes can be found. I guarentee you that if there were only ugly themes available (like E17 for a while when it got rid of it's E16 compatibility layer), not nearly as many people would use it. It can be as usable as you want, but that doesn't mean that people will be able to use it without a good theme. And I am not trying to troll, I am just really dissapointed in, from what I understand, is the decission that Ubuntu will stay with it's default for releases to come since the art team does community artwork and it seems that Canonical in fact didn't hire designers to do the artwork. :( Smartboy -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 39, Issue 67
GUI's didn't exist in the 80's in this form, there's a reason why Gnome is the leading DE, there's a reason why Ubuntu is winning every distro usage poll, and there's a reason this art team is here. You seem to be completely clueless, so please read first before posting. Thank you. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 39, Issue 67
My gosh. that is one of the first opinions from an ubuntu fan that admits something needs to be seriously done about the ubuntu/gnome theme. A complete OverHaul actually :o I appreciate the fact that YOU recognise that Ubuntu/gnome has to keep up with whats out there Now, and how can we compete with that...? Only time will tell but the Majority of the gnome developers are stuck in the 80's way of thinking..I myself hope Ubuntu and gnome prevail.. but i don't see how Gnome will Beat Kde 4xx in the long run once it becomes fully stable and useable. Kde have the balls to put their "resources' where their mouth is.. and do something spectacular... even if it is taking a while its almost there. It truley will give Vista's and Mac's Gui a kick in the Balls kaddy. On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 8:18 PM, Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 2008-09-26 at 12:43 +0100, Gary Stanley wrote: > > I feel much the same way. I've been watching the art discussion list > > for quite some time and the one thing that comes across more than > > anything (or it appears like it to me) is that the art side of > > development is almost like an afterthought. > > i totally agree, and i think that everybody is expecting the new theme > as well, however this is the ubuntu-art list and if we dont know about > this new theme than i dont know who would. > > we have good and nice community themes. dust is my personal favorite, > but it is still very buggy, and many bugs cannot be fixed without the > applications developers. the only way it could be implemented is if they > would put it in default at the beginning of the next release, so all the > developers have 6 months to correct there application interfaces. > most of the problems come from the different background and toolbar > color btw. > > > > > > > Don't get me wrong, I applaud the effort in killing bugs and bringing > > out better software to be included in the next release, but the lack > > of a "pretty" interface it isn't helping the migration of users over > > to Linux from Windows or Apple when they are used to certain "eye > > candy" on those operating systems and that is all they care about … > > Canonical and Ubuntu are missing a trick here in my lowly opinion. > > > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael > > Garate > > Sent: 26 September 2008 12:22 > > To: ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 39, Issue 67 > > > > > > > > > > I'm really disappointed if the new theme has been postponed again. > > This is exactly what happened for the hardy release :( > > > > > > > -- > ubuntu-art mailing list > ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art > -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 39, Issue 67
On Fri, 2008-09-26 at 20:16 +0800, symon cadwallender wrote: > Lol. What do you expect from Ubuntu. They will never have a good > theme, either will Gnome. Gnome havn't got the balls to do it, Go Kde. > Im so sick of Ubuntu and Gnome and their 1980's mentality that i just > switched to Opensuse/Mandriva Kde. Atleast Kde are more in touch with > today's standard. 'F ubuntu and gnome' > By the way, how the hell do I unsubscribe from this shit. Im so sick > of ubuntu > kaddy See this link at the bottom of every post, click it. https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art Good riddance Troll. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 39, Issue 67
On Fri, 2008-09-26 at 12:43 +0100, Gary Stanley wrote: > I feel much the same way. I’ve been watching the art discussion list > for quite some time and the one thing that comes across more than > anything (or it appears like it to me) is that the art side of > development is almost like an afterthought. i totally agree, and i think that everybody is expecting the new theme as well, however this is the ubuntu-art list and if we dont know about this new theme than i dont know who would. we have good and nice community themes. dust is my personal favorite, but it is still very buggy, and many bugs cannot be fixed without the applications developers. the only way it could be implemented is if they would put it in default at the beginning of the next release, so all the developers have 6 months to correct there application interfaces. most of the problems come from the different background and toolbar color btw. > > > Don’t get me wrong, I applaud the effort in killing bugs and bringing > out better software to be included in the next release, but the lack > of a “pretty” interface it isn’t helping the migration of users over > to Linux from Windows or Apple when they are used to certain “eye > candy” on those operating systems and that is all they care about … > Canonical and Ubuntu are missing a trick here in my lowly opinion. > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael > Garate > Sent: 26 September 2008 12:22 > To: ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 39, Issue 67 > > > > > I'm really disappointed if the new theme has been postponed again. > This is exactly what happened for the hardy release :( > > -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 39, Issue 67
Lol. What do you expect from Ubuntu. They will never have a good theme, either will Gnome. Gnome havn't got the balls to do it, Go Kde. Im so sick of Ubuntu and Gnome and their 1980's mentality that i just switched to Opensuse/Mandriva Kde. Atleast Kde are more in touch with today's standard. 'F ubuntu and gnome' By the way, how the hell do I unsubscribe from this shit. Im so sick of ubuntu kaddy On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 7:55 PM, Vadim Peretokin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > A lot of people on social networking sites are expecting a new theme > also... everybody got scared when the horrid completely brown theme was > being tested, but others comforted them that it was just testing. But with > no themes improving (the little bits really don't count in the whole scope > of the expectations) with the Alphas, everyone is hoping for the final theme > to be in Beta, and it being good... > > -- > ubuntu-art mailing list > ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art > > -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 39, Issue 67
A lot of people on social networking sites are expecting a new theme also... everybody got scared when the horrid completely brown theme was being tested, but others comforted them that it was just testing. But with no themes improving (the little bits really don't count in the whole scope of the expectations) with the Alphas, everyone is hoping for the final theme to be in Beta, and it being good... -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 39, Issue 67
I feel much the same way. I've been watching the art discussion list for quite some time and the one thing that comes across more than anything (or it appears like it to me) is that the art side of development is almost like an afterthought. Don't get me wrong, I applaud the effort in killing bugs and bringing out better software to be included in the next release, but the lack of a "pretty" interface it isn't helping the migration of users over to Linux from Windows or Apple when they are used to certain "eye candy" on those operating systems and that is all they care about ... Canonical and Ubuntu are missing a trick here in my lowly opinion. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Garate Sent: 26 September 2008 12:22 To: ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 39, Issue 67 I'm really disappointed if the new theme has been postponed again. This is exactly what happened for the hardy release :( -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 39, Issue 67
I'm really disappointed if the new theme has been postponed again. This is exactly what happened for the hardy release :( -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
