Re: this mornings updates

2009-01-15 Thread Lisa Milne
Oh well, I'll just have to see what's up with my system then, at least
it's at work so I get paid to fix it.

thanks all

On Thu, 2009-01-15 at 15:58 +1100, David Ryder wrote:
 OK here ..David
 On Thu, 2009-01-15 at 09:44 +1000, Lisa wrote:
  Is anyone else getting dpkg segfaulting on the acpi-support update that
  came through this morning? Hardy 32bit
  
  Lisa
  
  
 
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ext3 partition on a windows drive common to 32bit and 64bit?

2009-01-15 Thread David Ryder
Hi,
I have created an ext3 partition on a separate windows drive that I want
to make common to both my 32bit and 64bit Hardy 8.04 installations so
some files remain 'up to date'. Such as my fax folders, Documents folder
etc.

Is this a reasonable way to do it without harming either installation?
1. Create mount points in both systems: /3264common
2. Enter in fstabin both systems:
UUID=97907bf0-6294-4e08-a14a-97dde3d9982e /3264files ext3 relatime 0 2
3. Change permission and ownership in both to:
sudo chown -R myname:myname /3264common
sudo chmod -R 755 /3264common
4. Move fax, Documents folders etc to /3264common that I want both
systems to use (and change program paths accordingly.

On boot to either system, will fstab mount the /3264common without
problems?

David


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Re: ext3 partition on a windows drive common to 32bit and 64bit?

2009-01-15 Thread Karl Goetz
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On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 08:41:42 +1100
David Ryder dava...@bigpond.net.au wrote:

 Hi,
 I have created an ext3 partition on a separate windows drive that I
 want to make common to both my 32bit and 64bit Hardy 8.04
 installations so some files remain 'up to date'. Such as my fax
 folders, Documents folder etc.
 
 Is this a reasonable way to do it without harming either installation?
 1. Create mount points in both systems: /3264common

Strange place to put it, but you can if you want.

 2. Enter in fstabin both systems:
 UUID=97907bf0-6294-4e08-a14a-97dde3d9982e /3264files ext3 relatime 0 2
 3. Change permission and ownership in both to:
 sudo chown -R myname:myname /3264common
 sudo chmod -R 755 /3264common
 4. Move fax, Documents folders etc to /3264common that I want both
 systems to use (and change program paths accordingly.
 
 On boot to either system, will fstab mount the /3264common without
 problems?

test it. enter all the details and run `sudo mount -a`. If theres no
error, `ls /3264common` and you should see files.
kk

 
 David
 
 


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Re: ext3 partition on a windows drive common to 32bit and 64bit?

2009-01-15 Thread David Ryder
Thanks Matt and Karl.
Karl - 
Strange place to put it, but you can if you want.
Where would you put it and why? I would prefer not to have it in /home
as it is on a separate physical drive and wanted to make sure /home was
not corrupted by a drive error.
Thanks -- David

On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 09:35 +1030, Karl Goetz wrote:
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 On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 08:41:42 +1100
 David Ryder dava...@bigpond.net.au wrote:
 
  Hi,
  I have created an ext3 partition on a separate windows drive that I
  want to make common to both my 32bit and 64bit Hardy 8.04
  installations so some files remain 'up to date'. Such as my fax
  folders, Documents folder etc.
  
  Is this a reasonable way to do it without harming either installation?
  1. Create mount points in both systems: /3264common
 
 Strange place to put it, but you can if you want.
 
  2. Enter in fstabin both systems:
  UUID=97907bf0-6294-4e08-a14a-97dde3d9982e /3264files ext3 relatime 0 2
  3. Change permission and ownership in both to:
  sudo chown -R myname:myname /3264common
  sudo chmod -R 755 /3264common
  4. Move fax, Documents folders etc to /3264common that I want both
  systems to use (and change program paths accordingly.
  
  On boot to either system, will fstab mount the /3264common without
  problems?
 
 test it. enter all the details and run `sudo mount -a`. If theres no
 error, `ls /3264common` and you should see files.
 kk
 
  
  David
  
  
 
 
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Re: ext3 partition on a windows drive common to 32bit and 64bit?

2009-01-15 Thread Karl Goetz
On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 11:18:04 +1100
David Ryder dava...@bigpond.net.au wrote:

 Thanks Matt and Karl.
 Karl - 
 Strange place to put it, but you can if you want.
 Where would you put it and why? I would prefer not to have it in /home

I'd mount in it to $HOME/shared (or a similar name). Its a logical
place for personal files, its under your home, so its easy to browse
to.

 as it is on a separate physical drive and wanted to make sure /home

raw drive (/dev/sdb) , partition (/dev/sdc2), loop back filesystem
(eg, ramdisks, or .isos), you can mount them arbitrary locations
whatever they are.

 was not corrupted by a drive error.

Home can be corrupted wherever it is, your just depending on a
different drive.
kk

 Thanks -- David
 
 On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 09:35 +1030, Karl Goetz wrote:
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  On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 08:41:42 +1100
  David Ryder dava...@bigpond.net.au wrote:
  
   Hi,
   I have created an ext3 partition on a separate windows drive that
   I want to make common to both my 32bit and 64bit Hardy 8.04
   installations so some files remain 'up to date'. Such as my fax
   folders, Documents folder etc.
   
   Is this a reasonable way to do it without harming either
   installation? 1. Create mount points in both systems: /3264common
  
  Strange place to put it, but you can if you want.
  
   2. Enter in fstabin both systems:
   UUID=97907bf0-6294-4e08-a14a-97dde3d9982e /3264files ext3
   relatime 0 2 3. Change permission and ownership in both to:
   sudo chown -R myname:myname /3264common
   sudo chmod -R 755 /3264common
   4. Move fax, Documents folders etc to /3264common that I want both
   systems to use (and change program paths accordingly.
   
   On boot to either system, will fstab mount the /3264common without
   problems?
  
  test it. enter all the details and run `sudo mount -a`. If theres no
  error, `ls /3264common` and you should see files.
  kk
  
   
   David
   

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Re: ext3 partition on a windows drive common to 32bit and 64bit?

2009-01-15 Thread David Ryder
Hi Karl,
I follow your logic and, yes, it would make it easier to locate.

I also take your point that if the new partition is corrupted it is only
that folder and not /home per se.

Many thanks for the feedback, much appreciated, Karl and Matt.

David


On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 11:10 +1030, Karl Goetz wrote:
 On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 11:18:04 +1100
 David Ryder dava...@bigpond.net.au wrote:
 
  Thanks Matt and Karl.
  Karl - 
  Strange place to put it, but you can if you want.
  Where would you put it and why? I would prefer not to have it in /home
 
 I'd mount in it to $HOME/shared (or a similar name). Its a logical
 place for personal files, its under your home, so its easy to browse
 to.
 
  as it is on a separate physical drive and wanted to make sure /home
 
 raw drive (/dev/sdb) , partition (/dev/sdc2), loop back filesystem
 (eg, ramdisks, or .isos), you can mount them arbitrary locations
 whatever they are.
 
  was not corrupted by a drive error.
 
 Home can be corrupted wherever it is, your just depending on a
 different drive.
 kk
 
  Thanks -- David
  
  On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 09:35 +1030, Karl Goetz wrote:
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   On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 08:41:42 +1100
   David Ryder dava...@bigpond.net.au wrote:
   
Hi,
I have created an ext3 partition on a separate windows drive that
I want to make common to both my 32bit and 64bit Hardy 8.04
installations so some files remain 'up to date'. Such as my fax
folders, Documents folder etc.

Is this a reasonable way to do it without harming either
installation? 1. Create mount points in both systems: /3264common
   
   Strange place to put it, but you can if you want.
   
2. Enter in fstabin both systems:
UUID=97907bf0-6294-4e08-a14a-97dde3d9982e /3264files ext3
relatime 0 2 3. Change permission and ownership in both to:
sudo chown -R myname:myname /3264common
sudo chmod -R 755 /3264common
4. Move fax, Documents folders etc to /3264common that I want both
systems to use (and change program paths accordingly.

On boot to either system, will fstab mount the /3264common without
problems?
   
   test it. enter all the details and run `sudo mount -a`. If theres no
   error, `ls /3264common` and you should see files.
   kk
   

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Re: c-nile virus

2009-01-15 Thread Peter Williams
Hello Andrew and Everyone (who likes to use Ubuntu Operating System),

cc: to *Ern Williams* (my Dad in Victor Harbor, South Australia )

and cc to: *Ms Tracey Onyett* who works for an Organization called 'Wise
Employment Australia' and who has been trying to help me look for a job to
do part-time or on a casual basis.

and cc: *Alvaro GP* who an amazingly clever computer person  good friend,
living in Malaga, Spain, in Europe.

Hello All,

My apologies for typing such a long message.

I think I should try to explain why I sent the email (yesterday) about this
virus called c-nile. Please pass the word around that in particular to
Micro$oft Windows users whom I suggest need to check for this very bad email
virus ;-(

My Dear Dad who is in his 80s (I get confused about his exact age), he was
born in 1926... So you can work out exactly how old he is. Anyway, Dad and
Mum live together is a lovely place house in Victor Harbor, South Australia.
They have been married for 51 years and are still very much in Love #GREAT
BIG SMILE#

Dad has an extremely modern computer with Micro$oft Windowz Vista Pro with
all the latest Service Packs and virus checkers, and spam checkers, and
trojan horse checkers etc etc etc.

My Dad (Ern Williams) loves to use his computer for all types of things. For
example: playing Mahjongg Tile matching games, web games (of many different
types), playing find-a-word puzzles, jigsaw puzzles, viewing funny jokes and
seeing beautiful multi-media (of all kinds) of artwork of things like:
beautiful artworks (of all kind) and pretty graphics of flowers, landscapes,
animals, children etc etc etc.

Anyway, I digress (I apologize) - My father (Ern Williams) send me an email
warning me that his computer had been affected by this e-mail virus called '
*c-nile*'. It sounds horrible -- it still disgusts and appalls me at the
horrible e-mail viruses which these stupid and cruel people create and
infect people with !!!

Apparently my Dad has now removed the c-nile virus, however he was telling
me about it in his email to me... so, as I want to warn other people to
remove it. I think that a good anti-virus checker program *SHOULD* be able
to remove it!!! I hope it does!

I fully admit that I can tend to be *quite naive*!!! :-) I am an amiable
person and actually I like it try to encourage people to learn to use their
computers and not be worried about their computers playing up. E.g. I like
to help people to use their computer in a productive and fun ways!!! *Checking
for horrible viruses etc is far from fun!!! but it seems, unfortunately, a
necessity of life.*

Actually, when I lived in Canberra, ACT, I worked for the Royal Australian
Navy, in the Australian Federal Government Dept of Defence (eg the Public
Service). I worked there for 23 years and even tho' I became quite sick with
Schizophrenia, I still remained employed as a Draftsman (drawing with pen
and ink) and also with a wide range of CAD software.

I also became a Technical Officer and designed many many Databases and used
most of the so-called Micro$oft Office applications. And I designed Websites
for the RAN !!! I was also the computer help person for the Directorate of
the RAN in which I worked!!! So, I helped people to fix their computers when
they didn't like to use them or were having difficulties with them!!! I
generally found this to be both difficult and also extremely rewarding to
help people understand how to get the most from their computers and not be
afraid of using it!!! SMILE

In other words, I really enjoyed this because I found it to be greatly
rewarding and, although not easy, it was a Good Thing to do ;-)))

*Now please don't misunderstand me* *SMILE* Although I have used computers
for many years and I have become very productive at using them... I still
get very confused at learning Linux and How to do things like dual-boot
between different OSes.

I'm getting off topic... sorry about that. I am now using *Mint Linux
v5.1*with the Gnome desktop environment (I think that the correct term
for it).
It is performing absolutely rock-solid !!! eg. I'm using *Firefox* as my
web-browser and it has all of the latest updates. *I'm extremely happy with
it* !!!

My pc still has some teething problems... but that's life I guess *SMILE*.

My view of life is that the proverbial glass is half-full, not half-empty.

Now if only I could figure out how to get my repositories working
correctly, then that would be a big help! :-) For some reason my Synaptic
Package Manager (that's what its called) was NOT happy... I think that I had
typed in the wrong repository server addresses!?!?! ( I'm trying to use the
correct terminology... but I'm not too sure of the correct buzz-words and
jargon to use -- I still regard myself to be a beginner at Mint Linux
 ;-)

Yours Faithfully and With Much Love,

(wishing that your computer works well

and doesn't give you head-aches!!!)

Pete the Poet from Oz,


Fond Regards,
Peter Eric (aka 'pew') 

Re: ext3 partition on a windows drive common to 32bit and 64bit?

2009-01-15 Thread Callan Davies
 May I ask the advantage of putting it in /mnt or /media over leaving it
 in / (in root it doesn't show an icon)?
 Is it 'better' in the sense of 'nix convention or is there another
 advantage? I tend toward /home being better but only if I can overcome
 the icon.



Hi Dave,

I guess from a functionality perspective, there's not really a lot of 
difference
where you put it.

But from a tradition and correctness perspective, /mnt/something or more
recently, /media/something would be considered better.

You could mount it in /home/something too, per previous posts. I hadn't 
heard of
that before. At initial glance I'm not a fan of the idea as it makes 
sharing the
folder between multiple users a little dirty, and I guess in the 
unlikely event
that you deleted your user account and deleted the home directory, I'm 
not sure
if that would cause all the files on your mounted filesystem to also be 
deleted.

I guess what I'm saying is, my opinion, if you can do /mnt/something 
and not get
the icon, great. Else you might have to keep doing what you're already 
doing :)

Cheers,
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Re: ext3 partition on a windows drive common to 32bit and 64bit?

2009-01-15 Thread David Ryder
Hi Callan,
Thanks - I agree with following convention - thanks.

Many thanks to all for helping.
David
  

On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 15:11 +1030, Callan Davies wrote:
  May I ask the advantage of putting it in /mnt or /media over leaving it
  in / (in root it doesn't show an icon)?
  Is it 'better' in the sense of 'nix convention or is there another
  advantage? I tend toward /home being better but only if I can overcome
  the icon.
 
 
 
 Hi Dave,
 
 I guess from a functionality perspective, there's not really a lot of 
 difference
 where you put it.
 
 But from a tradition and correctness perspective, /mnt/something or more
 recently, /media/something would be considered better.
 
 You could mount it in /home/something too, per previous posts. I hadn't 
 heard of
 that before. At initial glance I'm not a fan of the idea as it makes 
 sharing the
 folder between multiple users a little dirty, and I guess in the 
 unlikely event
 that you deleted your user account and deleted the home directory, I'm 
 not sure
 if that would cause all the files on your mounted filesystem to also be 
 deleted.
 
 I guess what I'm saying is, my opinion, if you can do /mnt/something 
 and not get
 the icon, great. Else you might have to keep doing what you're already 
 doing :)
 
 Cheers,
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