Re: Cut down Linux + customisable X windows

2012-02-08 Thread colin mcdermott
On cut down distribution:
Go to distrowatch.com and take a look.

I would recommend checking out Vector linux as well. It was extreemly cut
down and ran very well.

Else if you really need to go cutdown DSL (damnsmalllinux) could be the way
to go.

But you need to define if you are talking cutdown as in a P4 with 512mb ram
or cutdown as in a 500mhz ARM processor with 32mb of flash memory.
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Re: Cut down Linux + customisable X windows

2012-02-08 Thread Ian Fleming
On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 12:37:25PM +1000, Paul Gear wrote:
 On 09/02/12 11:54, Ian Fleming wrote:
  ...
  I would say Arch Linux. Having said that you will need to be familiar with
  a couple of configuration files and/or have good google foo ;)
 
 ... and have patience for your package manager breaking every time you
 update.
 
 Why bother when Debian is so similar to Ubuntu, and takes so much less
 effort to maintain?  I've never met anyone who needs the bleeding edge
 that Arch provides (and Gentoo is pretty much the same).

No fun. I do not recommend the testing repo and one just has to go to 
archlinux.org
before the upgrade to look for those very rare show stoppers (ive had one in 2 
years) or just review the upgrades 
output for any warnings. Fun.

True you can not upgrade blindly. That applies to all distros! 

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Re: Cut down Linux + customisable X windows

2012-02-08 Thread Paul Gear
On 09/02/12 12:55, Ian Fleming wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 12:37:25PM +1000, Paul Gear wrote:
 ... and have patience for your package manager breaking every time you
 update.
 ...
 No fun. I do not recommend the testing repo and one just has to go to 
 archlinux.org
 before the upgrade to look for those very rare show stoppers (ive had one in 
 2 years) or just review the upgrades 
 output for any warnings. Fun.

I've experienced major breakage every time (all three of them ;-) i've
touched an Arch Linux system and tried to update a package.  And that
was with their stable repo.  Note that this was just updating to apply
security updates, not anything analogous to a Debian or Ubuntu
distribution upgrade.

 True you can not upgrade blindly. That applies to all distros! 

I've upgraded almost blindly on Debian  Ubuntu many times and not had
even the troubles i had on simple application of security updates on Arch.

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Re: Cut down Linux + customisable X windows

2012-02-08 Thread Jason Warner
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 1:44 PM, Paul Gear p...@libertysys.com.au wrote:

 On 09/02/12 12:55, Ian Fleming wrote:
  On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 12:37:25PM +1000, Paul Gear wrote:
  ... and have patience for your package manager breaking every time you
  update.
  ...
  No fun. I do not recommend the testing repo and one just has to go to
 archlinux.org
  before the upgrade to look for those very rare show stoppers (ive had
 one in 2 years) or just review the upgrades
  output for any warnings. Fun.

 I've experienced major breakage every time (all three of them ;-) i've
 touched an Arch Linux system and tried to update a package.  And that
 was with their stable repo.  Note that this was just updating to apply
 security updates, not anything analogous to a Debian or Ubuntu
 distribution upgrade.

  True you can not upgrade blindly. That applies to all distros!

 I've upgraded almost blindly on Debian  Ubuntu many times and not had
 even the troubles i had on simple application of security updates on Arch.


As a general rule, if you apt-get upgrade, you are always going to be safe.
If you apt-get dist-upgrade, you should know what you are doing (packages
can be removed). Just be aware of the differences. My workflow is typically
apt-get upgrade and then dist-upgrade. If dist-upgrade tells me that some
package will be removed and it looks important (unity, ubuntu-desktop etc),
I leave it alone for a day and then start it over again.

Ubuntu is by far the most stable upgrades I've ever experienced. IMO,
nothing else comes close.


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