Re: No Ubuntu Laptops available in AU
I'm still researching but Lenovo informs me they've got a sale on right now http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/x-series/x260/ I recommend the X260 as good value with decent specs. The carbon is attractive but expensive. Please check your pricing yourself, I can't guarantee what I've said below as I'm in a rush. My basic aim was an i5 machine and if laptop 13" or under, but looking for really fast SSD. The Dell XPS13 is a great contender as a laptop that will run Ubuntu with a Skylake i5 or i7 processor. I'd prefer the Dell XPS13 to the X260. The Dell XPS13 DE is a great option and great value considering the build quality. If you're prepared to go up to AU$2,000 including shipping there are nice options with the i5 or i7 and up to 16GB RAM and a plain M.2 or even PCiE SSD, however, it's hard to confirm PCiE SSDs read write speeds. The System76 Lemur is looking great from that perspective. You can't get an i5 but you can go i7, 16GB RAM, and it has a fast SSD, so few complaints on the specs, although in comparison to the Dell XPS13 build quality it won't be able to beat the robust solid aluminium body. I prefer the i5 because it has the same power consumption (quiet / cool) as the i3. The i7 goes up a step in power consumption and presumably heat and noise. Looking at Meerkat and Intel NUC compact desktops you can get more for your dollar if you're prepared to leave the laptop configuration behind. Here in AU you can't beat an Intel NUC https://www.pccasegear.com/products/34899/intel-nuc6i5syh-core-i5-nuc-barebone-kit The Meerkat costs more, especially considering shipping, and you don't really get the best specs as the SSD is basic, whereas if you shop for an Intel NUC in AU you can choose a rocket ship SSD and memory for a tad over AU$1,000. If you want a 6i7 in the NUC it looks like you have to get one with a skull on it, sorry about that. New XPS 13 Developer Edition http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/xps-13-9350-laptop-ubuntu/pd?c=us&l=en&s=bsd&fl=p http://www.dell.com/learn/us/en/555/campaigns/xps-linux-laptop?c=us&l=en&s=biz http://downloads.dell.com/published/pages/xps-13-9350-laptop.html Order Code: cax13ubuntus2104 Ubuntu Linux 14.04 SP1 6 Gen Intel Core i5-6200U 8GB LPDDR3 1866MHz (16GB not avail on i5) 256GB PCIe Solid State Drive Intel® HD Graphics 520 13.3" FHD AG (1920 x 1080) InfinityEdge display CNC machined aluminum, Edge-to-edge Corning® Gorilla® Glass 56wHR, 4-Cell Battery not replaceable by customer. 0.6" x 11.98" x 7.88" / 15mm x 304mm x 200mm / 2.7lbs (1.2 kg) US$1,100 AU$1,482 Dell Reseller 1800 812 393 159-175 Church St, Parramatta NSW 2150 System76 Lemur 14" laptop lemu6 https://system76.com/laptops/lemur Ubuntu 16.04 LTS i3-6100U or i7-6500U 16GB DDR3 1600MHz 14.1" 1920x1080 IPS Intel HD Graphics 520 1× M.2 SSD, 1× 2.5" 7mm height drive. Up to 2.5 TB total. 256GB M.2 SSD NVMe read 2150 MB/s write 1200 MB/s 13.39" × 9.53" × 0.87" (34.01 × 24.21 × 2.21 cm) 3.6 lbs. (1.6 kg.) US$1,023 US$1,223 with i7 AU$1,372 AU$1,640 with i7 Linux on Lenovo https://support.lenovo.com/au/en/documents/pd031426 Lenovo Thinkpad X260 http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/x-series/x260/ Intel Core i5-6300U Processor (3MB Cache, up to 3.00GHz) 16GB DDR4-2133MHz SODIMM Intel HD Graphics 520 12.5 FHD IPS (1920 x 1080) 256 GB Solid State Drive, SATA3 OPAL2.0 520MBs read 260MBs write 12.03" x 8.21" x 0.8" / 305.5 x 208.5 x 20.3mm 2.9 lbs (1.3 kg) US$1,326 AU$1,780 Lenovo Thinkpad X1 Carbon http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/x-series/x1-carbon-4/ Intel Core i7-6600U Processor 16GB LPDDR3 SDRAM 1866 MB 14.0 FHD(1920x1080) IPS 512 GB Solid State Drive PCIe-NVMe 13.11" x 9.01" x 0.65" / 333 x 229 x 16.45 / 2.6 lbs (1.2 kg) US$1,844 AU$2,470 -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: No Ubuntu Laptops available in AU (Paul Gear)
Thanks Paul. I checked out Lenovo X260 and X1 Carbon. X260 much better value. Sellers obviously restricting models to 8GB and forcing you up the processor and feature / price line to get 16GB. I prefer 6i5 processor because 6i7 takes more power and heat but I want 16GB RAM. I can't see how Lenovo competes. The much cheaper x260 is a better choice for me than the X1 but Dell XPS13, if I can get it, is even better and still cheaper. But I want a fast PCiE NVMe M.2 SSD and the Lenovo's are all still on the rock bottom 520 MB/s read and 260 MB/s write level. Even the X1 high spec over $2k model doesn't specify the speed specs on its PCiE SSD which is suspicious, especially as all the others are slow dogs. Lenovo does say X1 and X260 are Linux compatible and provides reference for drivers, but Dell XPS13 (if I can get it) ships with Linux installed. MariaC: Thank you for choosing Lenovo Chat. Anil Gulati: I'm looking at the X260 and the X1 Carbon and hoping to see the specs shipped with Linux installed. MariaC: I understand Anil in this case, you can configure the linux but, the option is not pre installed in our models for the moment this options is not available Anil Gulati: Ok. Lenovo doesn't sell Linux? MariaC: for the moment we do not have this option available Anil Gulati: Can you specify Linux compatibility for any models and the X1 and X260 in particular? MariaC: Im checking right now, and its compatible with ThinkPad X260 systems and ThinkPad X1 Carbon Anil Anil Gulati: Oh Cool, so Lenovo confirms that I can run Linux on those models? MariaC: yes Anil Anil Gulati: Is there a link where I can get resources? Maybe I need to download drivers or something? And can I purchase a model without paying for Windows or do I have to buy Windows as well? MariaC: https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/documents/pd031426 Linux for Personal Systems MariaC: you can check the linux certifications there Anil Gulati: Great Maria, this is good. Can I purchase without Windows or do I have to pay for Windows as well? MariaC: the windows is pre installed MariaC: csama...@lenovo.com #2900721439 I'll take a look at Mac price / value but I'm starting to want the solid aluminium Dell XPS13, but I still don't have figures on how fast the SSD is or what it will take to obtain one in AU. > I asked about worldwide availability of laptops shipping with Ubuntu in > a recent company videoconference in Canonical. The short version is > that although we have ongoing relationships with both Dell and Lenovo, > the hardware vendors control the availability of the resultant systems. > > I have not seen any of the results of these relationships appear on > either vendor's Australian site. I'd also really like to get my hands > on an Ubuntu phone and/or tablet, but they're not available here either. > > My subjective opinion (without having gathered precise data) is that > most folks in Canonical run Lenovo ThinkPads (T4xx and X2xx are the most > popular series), with Dell XPS (our CEO, Jane, runs a Dell shipped with > Ubuntu [1]) and Apple in 2nd & 3rd. I currently use a ThinkPad X230, > but will probably switch to the latest T4x0 model on my next refresh. > > Both Dell and Lenovo are pretty compulsive about asking you to fill out > a survey about why you visited their site and how you liked it. One > useful thing you could do would be to add a comment stating that you'd > like to buy your laptop with Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
No Ubuntu Laptops available in AU
I've been looking at getting an Intel Skylake NUC 6i5 because I can get one
with 32 GB RAM and a fast 2,200 MB/s NVMe PCiE M.2 SSD for under AU$1000.
But then I hesitated because if I get a laptop I can be mobile, I'm not
dependent on having a monitor and keyboard set up somewhere.
But who sells Linux laptops in Australia, or even the world?
After slowly researching for months I'm now of the opinion that I should
only buy from System 76 or Zareason, because all the main stream suppliers
are lame.
There was news in Jan/Feb that woo hoo the Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition
("the world's best Windows laptop") was available with Ubuntu, nice high
spec and slim form factor. The news article said that Dell is selling the
5th gen CPUs at a discount because Skylake was coming. It's selling it like
there's a channel and a market and waiting list.
Getting on to Dell.com.au I can indeed find an XPS 13 Developer Edition but
it says no longer available, and click through to the replacement provides
Windows 10 only. Vapourware.
Amazingly, after getting on to Dell chat, it took two operators over half
an hour to admit there was another Dell Linux laptop available
http://pilot.search.dell.com/precision, Ubuntu of course, but at around
$3000 for 6i5 16GB RAM and no specs on the speed of the 1TB SSD were
available (PDF spec sheet link gave server error). And it looked like these
would come from US anyway.
The chat read like the Norwegian Blue Python sketch. Does Dell have any
Linux laptops? Well . . .
Lenovo has Linux laptops . . . then I find the news article is dated 2007.
I'm not happy with the support and commitment I'm seeing from main vendors
and there doesn't seem to be value for money if they have an offering at
all. Is this correct?
My judgement is that I pretty much have to buy either System 76 or
Zareason, they are the best value all round, and there is no Australian
provider. Can anyone tell me if that's correct?
I'm also wondering why there isn't a prominent Ubuntu page that says this
as well? I've seen Ubuntu has made attempts at providing hardware selection
channel before but it seems to have petered out? Isn't this the most
important thing to provide after Ubuntu itself? Which hardware to buy to
install on?
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