Re: Cut down Linux + customisable X windows
On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 12:37:25PM +1000, Paul Gear wrote: On 09/02/12 11:54, Ian Fleming wrote: ... I would say Arch Linux. Having said that you will need to be familiar with a couple of configuration files and/or have good google foo ;) ... and have patience for your package manager breaking every time you update. Why bother when Debian is so similar to Ubuntu, and takes so much less effort to maintain? I've never met anyone who needs the bleeding edge that Arch provides (and Gentoo is pretty much the same). No fun. I do not recommend the testing repo and one just has to go to archlinux.org before the upgrade to look for those very rare show stoppers (ive had one in 2 years) or just review the upgrades output for any warnings. Fun. True you can not upgrade blindly. That applies to all distros! -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Python text editor
On Saturday 21 May 2011 14:49:49 Geoffrey wrote: Further to my initial message I have installed from Ubuntu's software centre, SPE (Stani's Python Editor). This suggests that Terminal is the simplest vehicle for the Python tutorial rather than using, or trying to use, a specific editor. Geoffrey hi... Try geany. gedit and nano (cli) are installed by default and are great aswell. Python on the command line is good. Nano give ya some colour and the interactive interpreter has heaps of API info when using the help() and dir() commands as well as allowing for testing of code/ideas. -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: 10.04 LTS kernel security problem?
On Wednesday, May 11, 2011 11:11:38 PM David wrote: Hi folks, I clean-installed 10.04 LTS two days ago. In a computer mag I read something about Ubuntu (or Linux kernel) vulnerabilities for 10.04 being discovered recently. I may be remembering it wrong, but I thought the mag said that if you had kernel 2.6.35.25 then you are in the clear. When my 10.04 boots it shows the number as 'Linux 2.6.32.31-generic'. Straight after installing I had let Update Manager get the OS up to date. Am I in the clear, as far as these alleged vulnerabilities go? Or is there something else I have to do to 'get a newer kernel'? Thanks in advance, Dave hi Dave... Know security issues will be patched asap and that includes LTS releases. Ubuntu adds its own patches to the vanilla kernel and so maintains its own kernel to a certain extent. A list of known vulnerabilities for Ubuntu release can be found here: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/lucid/ Its hard to answer your question without more information re the issue. There is a good chance that Ubuntu has a patch/update for it even though the kernel version is lower than others. -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: 10.04 LTS kernel security problem?
On Thursday, May 12, 2011 12:40:48 AM Ian Fleming wrote: On Wednesday, May 11, 2011 11:11:38 PM David wrote: Hi folks, I clean-installed 10.04 LTS two days ago. In a computer mag I read something about Ubuntu (or Linux kernel) vulnerabilities for 10.04 being discovered recently. I may be remembering it wrong, but I thought the mag said that if you had kernel 2.6.35.25 then you are in the clear. When my 10.04 boots it shows the number as 'Linux 2.6.32.31-generic'. Straight after installing I had let Update Manager get the OS up to date. Am I in the clear, as far as these alleged vulnerabilities go? Or is there something else I have to do to 'get a newer kernel'? Thanks in advance, Dave hi Dave... Know security issues will be patched asap and that includes LTS releases. Ubuntu adds its own patches to the vanilla kernel and so maintains its own kernel to a certain extent. A list of known vulnerabilities for Ubuntu release can be found here: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/lucid/ Its hard to answer your question without more information re the issue. There is a good chance that Ubuntu has a patch/update for it even though the kernel version is lower than others. For Ubuntu linux-image-2.6.35-25-generic + covers what is mentioned in the article. Local exploit - meaning the attacker would need physical access to the machine. And there is not much to stop that... Encryption maybe? =) -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: 11.04
On Friday, April 08, 2011 03:10:39 PM Stephen Rees-Carter wrote: Just curious, but have the people who don't like Unity tried Gnome-Shell (AKA Gnome 3)? What are your thoughts on that, it's usability, design, etc? gnome shell is basically an android (touch phone) like interface interface!!! I for one have a PC not an android... Its ok. Its not ready... just like Unity. I think it would have similar usability issues to the ones I've heard raised about Unity. It is also completely different to classic gnome, which I expect would cause issues since most people don't like change. Thanks, ~Stephen On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Basil Chupin blchu...@iinet.net.au wrote: On 08/04/11 14:04, Boden Matthews wrote: Unity, bloody Unity! It's ugly, horrible and naff, get rid of it! If you install GNOME and remove Unity at the same time, GNOME works perfectly. Regards, Boden Matthews Sent from my DET craptop Gnome is not QUITE the same as in Maverick but it is certainly most usable. However, the word is that the next version of Ubuntu (11.10) won't have gnome at all (and which is why I am right now trying out openSUSE 11.4). BC -- I believe what I am programmed to believe. A robot in Futuruma -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Natty Narwhal Alpha 1 ISO image -- too big for CD-R?
On Saturday 01 January 2011 14:34:00 Ronald wrote: Happy New Year fellow Ubuntuers! :-) I've just downloaded Natty Narwhal Alpha 1 ISO image [http:// cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/natty/alpha-1/natty-desktop- i386.iso] and the size is 733 MB. I tried to burn it to my usual TDK Gold CD- R and of course it's too big. Has anyone tried Natty Narwhal? Did you have to burn the image to a DVD-R disc instead of CD-R? Thanks, Ronald Hi Ronald. Size is an issue lately, things are getting added/pulled out of the mainline CD image as a result of the development process. A DVD-R(W) will do the trick. Also the iso's are mountable in a Virtual Machine and there is USBcreator for thumbdrives. You can compare MD5sum hashes if you are concerned about the integrity of the download. Realtime disscussion of Natty is found on IRC @ #ubuntu+1 on irc.freenode.com and we have some techberts in our own #ubuntu-au IRC channel which may also provide answers/hints. -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
IRC madness: noobs and mutiny
Hello to all. First of all I know we are not at sea. I am being a little facetious. So.. I figured the subject of this thread is more appropriate for the 'Post-meeting Mail' thread. What is that about? The IRC structure is perfect, even in this day and age +1 from me to leave the two channels as they are. -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Tech support
First of all congratulations on earning Ubuntu membership, I think I have said it all ready but hey... now its official. I am not saying 3 2 1 GO! I am thinking along the lines of infrastructure, a little ground work. I see tech support in the mailing list and can not help but think that it is a little odd. For example when one browses the mailing list, one has to wade through all the tech support threads to find anything of substance. What if activity on both fronts increase. More over I personally think its a bad look for the Australian Ubuntu Loco. Very very disorganised. Im reluctant to add *tech support in mailing list* to the agenda for Tuesday nights meeting, maybe just a quick focus on it to get the impression of those present. (to quote you) May the force be with you! :) -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Tech support
I notice tech support seems to be encouraged in this mailing list. I can appreciate that there will be Australian specific issues from time to time, but seriously there are other channels for this [1] as well a official Ubuntu IRC rooms, Launchpad Questions, Ubuntu forums and so on.. Now instead of bickering over Linux reboots why don't we reboot the loco and get some proper communications/work in this list. [1] https://lists.ubuntu.com/#Community+Support -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
