On Sunday 11 May 2008 06:48:30 Daniel Mons wrote:
==Sebastian Spiess wrote:
I did a clean install and everything went smooth but when I started
installing all the stuff missing I had problems with the AU mirror as
well. I ended up switching quite often, but this could have something to
do with the others upgrading... good to hear that it worked for you.
I am now back to the AU mirror, all is fine so far. keep the traffic on
the continent :-)
Some general comments on APT mirrors, ISPs, and sources.list config from
a Debian veteran of 7 years, and an Ubuntu user for 2 years now:
au.archive.ubunut.com is hosted by Optus:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dig au.archive.ubuntu.com
*snip*
;; ANSWER SECTION:
au.archive.ubuntu.com.600 IN CNAME mirror.optus.net.
mirror.optus.net. 86400 IN A 211.29.132.173
Now I don't intend this to be a crap on Optus session. Optus
generously host Ubuntu's au mirror as well as the primary au mirror for
sourceforge. But the fact of the matter is the mirrors are slow to
respond, and seem to be heavily QoS'ed. I completely understand why
they do this, but sadly it makes for random brokenness when doing upgrades.
In particular, the two weeks before, and up to a month after any Ubuntu
release see these mirrors get hammered. I honestly don't think the
world understands just how popular Ubuntu is right now. :)
My advice is to keep your mirrors pointed to your local ISP if possible.
For example, I'm with iiNet, and my /etc/apt/sources.list looks like (4
lines, each one long line - ignore the line break enforced by email):
deb http://ftp.iinet.net.au/pub/ubuntu hardy main multiverse restricted
universe
deb http://ftp.iinet.net.au/pub/ubuntu hardy-updates main multiverse
restricted universe
deb http://ftp.iinet.net.au/pub/ubuntu hardy-backports main multiverse
restricted universe
deb http://ftp.iinet.net.au/pub/ubuntu hardy-security main multiverse
restricted universe
So there's deb repos for hardy, hardy-updates, hardy-backports
(optional), and hardy-security for the main, multiverse, universe and
restricted sections.
Many ISPs provide mirrors. Internode are another I have regular
dealings with that provide full Ubuntu mirrors. If you are on any one
of the PIPE Networks ISPs, PIPE host their Pacific Mirror site, which
can be accessed free of charge (ie: not counting towards quota) for PIPE
users (iiNet, Internode, Westnet, AAPT, Swiftel, and many others):
deb http://mirror.pacific.net.au/linux/ubuntu hardy main universe
multiverse restricted
... and so on for the other repos.
If in doubt, ring your ISP and ask. It's within the best interests of
an ISP to host local mirrors of heavily used traffic. It saves them
money, and means they can deliver a high quality of service to their
customers. For you as a user, it means being able to perform mass
upgrades for convenience and/or security without eating into your
monthly download quota or getting dreaded 404 not found errors.
Remember too that you can have multiple mirrors in your sources.list,
which will be tried in order. Put your own ISP at the top of the list,
and au.archive at the bottom of the list. If your ISP is slow to update
and is missing a package, APT will fall back to au.archive. There's no
rule saying you must only have one mirror in your list. The only
downside is that running an apt-get update (package refresh) can take
a while if you have a long sources.list, but it's a small price to pay
to ensure you get the packages you need during an normal package
upgrade, or during an entire distro upgrade.
-Dan
Hi Dan
Interestingly enuf the whole thing resolved by removing the last part of the
second line in my etc/hoats file, e.g. it read 127.0.1.1
localhost.p3nn-desktop.network_name
I dropped the network_name at the end at all worked fine again
James
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