Re: Metrocracy vs democracy

2010-06-09 Thread andrew
Colin,

Yes an 'Elected' board/council could appoint people to roles based on
'Merit'.

Andrew G.

On Thu, 2010-06-10 at 09:28 +1000, colin mcdermott wrote:
  There are not many reasons why we cannot have a 'Team' elected to
 positions based on merit every 12 months.  When people nominate for
 positions they can put up their credentials, why they want the
 position
 and what they can do for the Ubuntu-au Loco.
 
 Isn't this pretty much standard! I mean Ubuntu is not a four person
 project, it is not a small flash in a pan thing that someone has
 whipped out of their backyard. 
 
 Personally, I think that we need a Ubuntu Confrence in Australia. This
 confrence should be conducted on a yearly/bi-yearly basis (perhaps
 inpart online/through a web hookup), we talk all things Ubuntu and we
 elect our leaders there accepting online votes from anyone not there.
 There could be simultanious confrences, but the point is this:
 
 Ubuntu is not a four person Distribution.
 Ubuntu is open source, it is free to all and it's governance is (nay
 should be) transperant. 
 Microsoft is a commercial product, it's governance is closed. While I
 can have input into the product, I have no vote nor control on how it
 is designed. 
 
 Once a board is elected that board can appoint people to perform
 tasks, take roles, assign goals, do as it feels. I know that you will
 see members drop off from the board, but the board can replace them as
 they see fit. The board would be free from the election for most if
 not all of the year, but it will be heald to public account!
 
 Why do people fear a fair election? 
 
 Sincerely
 
 Colin McDermott



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RE: Metrocracy vs democracy

2010-06-09 Thread Ryan Macnish

Andrew,
None of us really want a meritocracy, but we want the same structure that 
option 1a gives us. It was named the wrong way apparently, which is why you 
probably think we are all going with a meritocracy, but we are not.
I thought everyone already agreed on a model of election. But it seems we 
haven't just yet, this is something that should be discussed next meeting.
Ryan Macnish
 Subject: Re: Metrocracy vs democracy
 From: gande...@gmail.com
 To: colinjamesmcderm...@gmail.com
 Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 10:34:05 +1000
 CC: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com
 
 Colin,
 
 Yes an 'Elected' board/council could appoint people to roles based on
 'Merit'.
 
 Andrew G.
 
 On Thu, 2010-06-10 at 09:28 +1000, colin mcdermott wrote:
   There are not many reasons why we cannot have a 'Team' elected to
  positions based on merit every 12 months.  When people nominate for
  positions they can put up their credentials, why they want the
  position
  and what they can do for the Ubuntu-au Loco.
  
  Isn't this pretty much standard! I mean Ubuntu is not a four person
  project, it is not a small flash in a pan thing that someone has
  whipped out of their backyard. 
  
  Personally, I think that we need a Ubuntu Confrence in Australia. This
  confrence should be conducted on a yearly/bi-yearly basis (perhaps
  inpart online/through a web hookup), we talk all things Ubuntu and we
  elect our leaders there accepting online votes from anyone not there.
  There could be simultanious confrences, but the point is this:
  
  Ubuntu is not a four person Distribution.
  Ubuntu is open source, it is free to all and it's governance is (nay
  should be) transperant. 
  Microsoft is a commercial product, it's governance is closed. While I
  can have input into the product, I have no vote nor control on how it
  is designed. 
  
  Once a board is elected that board can appoint people to perform
  tasks, take roles, assign goals, do as it feels. I know that you will
  see members drop off from the board, but the board can replace them as
  they see fit. The board would be free from the election for most if
  not all of the year, but it will be heald to public account!
  
  Why do people fear a fair election? 
  
  Sincerely
  
  Colin McDermott
 
 
 
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