Re: Sun to certify it's servers for Ubuntu?
Karl Goetz wrote: > Speaking personally, SPARC is the only gear sun produces that interests > me. I'm not remotely interested in their rebadged AMD's. > i cant reasonably coment about the amount of solaris in use - i dont > move in those circles :) > My main focus is on cluster building for software primarily focussed with high end 3D and film production (render software like Houdini Mantra, Pixar Renderman/PRMan, Apple Shake, etc). The only commonly-supported platform for a lot of the technologies is x86, which means if you want to build a multi-purpose render farm, that's the architecture you need to implement. Additionally, cheap processor density is the main desire for most studios, with an emphasis on fast turn around on hardware refresh. Hardware installs last no longer than 18-24 months for most. Clusters are usually built per-project, and sold off quickly after. For that niche industry, x86 still makes the most sense both financially, and from an application support point of view. Plus Sun's line of Xeon blades are an easy way to squash 16 x86 cores into a very small space (2 blade slots holding 4x quad core Xeons), and expand at will. > Not sure what you mean - there is no longer 'off the shelf' support for > Ubuntu's latest LTS (unless it comes later) Which is precisely the point I'm making. The idea that a time may come when I could buy a tier-1 piece of hardware from a manufacturer like Sun, bundled with Ubuntu and MySQL, and top to toe support all from the one vendor is quite a pleasant one. No, it doesn't exist right now. Yes, I'd like it to exist. With Sun cosying up to Ubuntu (and vice versa), it may exist one day, and that makes me a happy puppy. A shining example is the recent HP/RedHat support agreements. As well as working in 3D/film, I also work for a high end financial/superannuation group (sleep? what's that?) who currently have all of their large number crunching gear on PA-RISC and HP-UX. They are in the process of switching everything over to HP built x86 and RedHat, and now HP have chosen to support RedHat directly. They have trained RedHat support people and engineers on staff, so that for the customer any support issues regarding the box is handled by one location, and the back-and-forth between software and hardware vendors is minimised. I personally am excited to see a day when Sun may offer the same thing - in house Ubuntu support for their servers. Again, it makes buying kit easier, and it also appeases CIOs when you can assure them that no matter what goes wrong with the box, it will take just one phone call to one vendor find someone who can help you, regardless if it's software or hardware at fault. -Dan -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Sun to certify it's servers for Ubuntu?
On Sat, 2008-04-05 at 23:08 +1000, Daniel Mons wrote: > Dave Hall wrote: > > > > Well lets look at recent history: > > > > * SPARC Will not be a supported platform for hardy - see > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2008-March/000400.html > > > > * Dapper was certified for the Niagara based SunFire T2000s, but then > > Sun changed the hardware to make to RoHS compliant, and it stopped > > working, and it remains unfixed today. A few months after Edgy came out > > it was "supported" by Sun. > > > > So I would wait for there to be a bit of a track record before getting > > to excited about this. Say a LTS release or 2 which provides full LTS > > for the advertised platforms. > > > > Speaking for myself only, SPARC doesn't interest me in the slightest. I > would hazard a guess and say the vast majority of folks who are using > SPARC based gear will be running Solaris anyway. Speaking personally, SPARC is the only gear sun produces that interests me. I'm not remotely interested in their rebadged AMD's. i cant reasonably coment about the amount of solaris in use - i dont move in those circles :) > > I'm much more interested in Sun's x86_64 gear. Sun have recently > dropped the price of the x86 blade gear. And as I mentioned before, > having it available "off the shelf" with Ubuntu and MySQL *AND* that > ever-important, CIO-satisfying "support" is something that's got my > interest peaked. Not sure what you mean - there is no longer 'off the shelf' support for Ubuntu's latest LTS (unless it comes later) kk > > -Dan > -- Karl Goetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Sun to certify it's servers for Ubuntu?
Dave Hall wrote: > > Well lets look at recent history: > > * SPARC Will not be a supported platform for hardy - see > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2008-March/000400.html > > * Dapper was certified for the Niagara based SunFire T2000s, but then > Sun changed the hardware to make to RoHS compliant, and it stopped > working, and it remains unfixed today. A few months after Edgy came out > it was "supported" by Sun. > > So I would wait for there to be a bit of a track record before getting > to excited about this. Say a LTS release or 2 which provides full LTS > for the advertised platforms. > Speaking for myself only, SPARC doesn't interest me in the slightest. I would hazard a guess and say the vast majority of folks who are using SPARC based gear will be running Solaris anyway. I'm much more interested in Sun's x86_64 gear. Sun have recently dropped the price of the x86 blade gear. And as I mentioned before, having it available "off the shelf" with Ubuntu and MySQL *AND* that ever-important, CIO-satisfying "support" is something that's got my interest peaked. -Dan -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Sun to certify it's servers for Ubuntu?
On Sat, 2008-04-05 at 20:10 +1000, Daniel Mons wrote: > http://www.cnet.com/8301-13505_1-9911332-16.html > http://seekingalpha.com/article/71011-sun-microsystems-next-linux-move > > Speaking from the point of view of a corporate Linux Sysadmin and an > Ubuntu lover, this is great news. The idea of buying Sun hardware > bundled with Ubuntu, MySQL, and commercial/official support for the lot > in one package is mouth watering. Well lets look at recent history: * SPARC Will not be a supported platform for hardy - see https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2008-March/000400.html * Dapper was certified for the Niagara based SunFire T2000s, but then Sun changed the hardware to make to RoHS compliant, and it stopped working, and it remains unfixed today. A few months after Edgy came out it was "supported" by Sun. So I would wait for there to be a bit of a track record before getting to excited about this. Say a LTS release or 2 which provides full LTS for the advertised platforms. Cheers Dave -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Sun to certify it's servers for Ubuntu?
http://www.cnet.com/8301-13505_1-9911332-16.html http://seekingalpha.com/article/71011-sun-microsystems-next-linux-move Speaking from the point of view of a corporate Linux Sysadmin and an Ubuntu lover, this is great news. The idea of buying Sun hardware bundled with Ubuntu, MySQL, and commercial/official support for the lot in one package is mouth watering. -Dan -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
