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snip I have xubuntu running on one of the computers via LiveCD :) next step zorin OS downloading. tom_a_sparks Light travels faster then sound, which is why some people appear bright, until you hear them speak -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
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Hi Norm, On Sat, 2010-06-19 at 10:25 +1000, Norm, VK3XCI wrote: Dave, Where in country vic... reply offlist if you wish? Newstead, about 430kms drive SE. Can you document what you did? I'm sure there aremore people than me interested. I'm ramping up my own (very) small business at the moment and it sounds like something to run with! I plan on getting back into blogging soon, once I do more with the internet cafe I will post something about it. There isn't that much to cover really at this stage, other than what was in the email you replied to. If you are ever coming down to Newstead, give me some notice and we can meet up if I am around and not too busy. Cheers Dave On 18/06/2010 13:45, Dave Hall wrote: Hi Tom, On Thu, 2010-06-17 at 18:47 -0700, Tom Sparks wrote: I am the only one who is want a ubnutu system at the internet cafe, and the only way is to demo it in the wild, but I don't want to keep repeating the same steps (download this, download that) so what about a custom liveCD (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization ) ? or should I just look at persistent image? I run an ubuntu powered internet cafe for a small town in country Victoria. They are currently running Hardy on 3 P4s. I have an NFS server which stores all the home directories, the machines automatically login after 15 seconds. Accounts are stored in LDAP to make it easier to swap machines out. Some of the files are marked as read only. I still need to do more work lock things down, but overall it works well. They used to have at least an issue a week when they were running XP, now there is something minor for me to look at once or twice a month. Cheers Dave No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.829 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2945 - Release Date: 06/18/10 04:35:00 -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: ubuntu for Internet cafe
On Thu, 2010-06-17 at 21:27 -0700, Tom Sparks wrote: --- On Fri, 18/6/10, Dave Hall dave.h...@skwashd.com wrote: I run an ubuntu powered internet cafe for a small town in country Victoria. They are currently running Hardy on 3 P4s. snip I am only there two day a week, and currently I have no support to setup a ubuntu computer from management, currently we have 5 computer running win XP or 2003, I am hoping to get one of them running ubuntu, but I want to prove the idea to management. I have left the machines and gone overseas for 2 months to return 2 working perfectly and 1 having a firefox profile locked. Got an old junk PC lying around? Run it up with ubuntu and demo that. dd the disk onto the other machines if they accept it. Cheers Dave -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
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--- On Fri, 18/6/10, Dave Hall dave.h...@skwashd.com wrote: From: Dave Hall dave.h...@skwashd.com Subject: Re: ubuntu for Internet cafe To: Tom Sparks tom_a_spa...@yahoo.com.au Cc: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com Received: Friday, 18 June, 2010, 7:55 PM On Thu, 2010-06-17 at 21:27 -0700, Tom Sparks wrote: --- On Fri, 18/6/10, Dave Hall dave.h...@skwashd.com wrote: I run an ubuntu powered internet cafe for a small town in country Victoria. They are currently running Hardy on 3 P4s. snip I am only there two day a week, and currently I have no support to setup a ubuntu computer from management, currently we have 5 computer running win XP or 2003, I am hoping to get one of them running ubuntu, but I want to prove the idea to management. I have left the machines and gone overseas for 2 months to return 2 working perfectly and 1 having a firefox profile locked. Got an old junk PC lying around? Run it up with ubuntu and demo that. dd the disk onto the other machines if they accept it. what I am think is doing a custom liveCD (remove everything except firefox, VLC, openoffice and installing flash and all the media codec) the reason why I chosen Zorin OS is because of the windows-like GUI (no reteaching the customers) and it is based on ubuntu I have been noticing I have been using my ubuntu netbook more and more for basic thing like virus scanning usb-sticks (when the windows computers decide to reboot upon inserting the stick) I have yet to test if the computers can boot off a usb stick/CD-ROM (crossing my fingers) noticed the F1 option for the boot menu :) the printer could also be an issue, I know is RICOH Aficio connected to the network I am the only one with knowledge of using ubuntu, so I'll have to boot the computer into ubuntu when i get there and reboot it back into windows when I leave for the day tom -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
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Dave, Where in country vic... reply offlist if you wish? Can you document what you did? I'm sure there aremore people than me interested. I'm ramping up my own (very) small business at the moment and it sounds like something to run with! 73 de Norm, VK3XCI Mildura, Australia The Wintersun City QF15bt. On 18/06/2010 13:45, Dave Hall wrote: Hi Tom, On Thu, 2010-06-17 at 18:47 -0700, Tom Sparks wrote: I am the only one who is want a ubnutu system at the internet cafe, and the only way is to demo it in the wild, but I don't want to keep repeating the same steps (download this, download that) so what about a custom liveCD (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization ) ? or should I just look at persistent image? I run an ubuntu powered internet cafe for a small town in country Victoria. They are currently running Hardy on 3 P4s. I have an NFS server which stores all the home directories, the machines automatically login after 15 seconds. Accounts are stored in LDAP to make it easier to swap machines out. Some of the files are marked as read only. I still need to do more work lock things down, but overall it works well. They used to have at least an issue a week when they were running XP, now there is something minor for me to look at once or twice a month. Cheers Dave No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.829 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2945 - Release Date: 06/18/10 04:35:00 -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
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sorry, for the late reply the more I think about a custom Distro, may be the best option something based on Zorin OS (http://zorin-os.webs.com/) so how hard is to create a custom Distro? tom_a_sparks Light travels faster then sound, which is why some people appear bright, until you hear them speak -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
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On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Tom Sparks tom_a_spa...@yahoo.com.auwrote: sorry, for the late reply the more I think about a custom Distro, may be the best option something based on Zorin OS (http://zorin-os.webs.com/) so how hard is to create a custom Distro? Ohhh dear. Tom, please don't go there and guys, please just let this slide. Suffice to say Tom that creating a distro is non-trivial and certainly not necessary to meet your requirements and probably not a good idea to pursue in general. It's also a political issue, the general feeling you'll get from people in the broader linux community can be summed up: 'Another distro? Why? Isn't there enough divergence of energy and resources already?' -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
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--- On Fri, 18/6/10, David Fawcett omniw...@gmail.com wrote: From: David Fawcett omniw...@gmail.com Subject: Re: ubuntu for Internet cafe To: Tom Sparks tom_a_spa...@yahoo.com.au Cc: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com Received: Friday, 18 June, 2010, 3:27 AM On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Tom Sparks tom_a_spa...@yahoo.com.au wrote: sorry, for the late reply the more I think about a custom Distro, may be the best option something based on Zorin OS (http://zorin-os.webs.com/) so how hard is to create a custom Distro? Ohhh dear. Tom, please don't go there and guys, please just let this slide. I am the only one who is want a ubnutu system at the internet cafe, and the only way is to demo it in the wild, but I don't want to keep repeating the same steps (download this, download that) so what about a custom liveCD (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization ) ? or should I just look at persistent image? -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
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Hi Tom, On Thu, 2010-06-17 at 18:47 -0700, Tom Sparks wrote: I am the only one who is want a ubnutu system at the internet cafe, and the only way is to demo it in the wild, but I don't want to keep repeating the same steps (download this, download that) so what about a custom liveCD (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization ) ? or should I just look at persistent image? I run an ubuntu powered internet cafe for a small town in country Victoria. They are currently running Hardy on 3 P4s. I have an NFS server which stores all the home directories, the machines automatically login after 15 seconds. Accounts are stored in LDAP to make it easier to swap machines out. Some of the files are marked as read only. I still need to do more work lock things down, but overall it works well. They used to have at least an issue a week when they were running XP, now there is something minor for me to look at once or twice a month. Cheers Dave -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
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--- On Fri, 18/6/10, Dave Hall dave.h...@skwashd.com wrote: From: Dave Hall dave.h...@skwashd.com Subject: Re: ubuntu for Internet cafe To: Tom Sparks tom_a_spa...@yahoo.com.au Cc: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com Received: Friday, 18 June, 2010, 1:45 PM Hi Tom, On Thu, 2010-06-17 at 18:47 -0700, Tom Sparks wrote: I am the only one who is want a ubnutu system at the internet cafe, and the only way is to demo it in the wild, but I don't want to keep repeating the same steps (download this, download that) so what about a custom liveCD (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization ) ? or should I just look at persistent image? I run an ubuntu powered internet cafe for a small town in country Victoria. They are currently running Hardy on 3 P4s. snip I am only there two day a week, and currently I have no support to setup a ubuntu computer from management, currently we have 5 computer running win XP or 2003, I am hoping to get one of them running ubuntu, but I want to prove the idea to management. tom -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
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On 15/06/10 15:33, Tom Sparks wrote: --- On Tue, 15/6/10, Paul Schulzp...@mawsonlakes.org wrote: From: Paul Schulzp...@mawsonlakes.org Subject: Re: ubuntu for Internet cafe To: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com Received: Tuesday, 15 June, 2010, 10:21 AM You can install Ubuntu on a USB stick and boot from that. - unetbootin - General tool for putting an ISO image onto a USB stick - usb-createor-gkk (or -kde) - Ubuntu specific tool. so.. if you have an iso (CD or DVD) that does what you want, you can get to boot from from a USB stick (and possibly also a hard drive). This might help but tit isn't the whole solution. On the other hand, you could sell the Ubuntu-on-a-stick (4GB is apparently sufficient) and then they can take it away with them. Cheers, Paul snip I know about the Ubutu-on-a-* but I need to download a new ISO for ever update tom Why? BC -- Those who hold and those who are without property have ever formed distinct interests in society. James Madison -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
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Hey Tom, If I was going to run an internet cafe (I'm assuming 15-20 users at once here) and wanted to restrict what my users could do with the PCs then I would consider running a server and thin clients out to each of the desktops. The term is virtualization, or more specifically for your needs: desktop virtualization. Just to be even handed about this it's my understanding that RedHat does this sort of think particularly well although Ubuntu Server is certainly capable. Here is a Redhat video about desktop virtualization: http://www.redhat.com/virtualization/rhev/desktop/ Wikipedia article for LTSP: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Terminal_Server_Project Neat video on how to install and setup LTSP: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yD0QV_Cm2wfeature=related The benefits of virtualization are: - Lower cost of deployment on large scales - Less power use - More secure - Users can't 'ruin' the operating system - Each user can get their own virtual operating system, this can be saved in it's existing state for repeat customers, or wiped clean and reloaded from scratch Since you don't need a hard drive all you really need from the thin client you can pick them up pretty darn cheap. For example: with a 1gb stick of ram this would probably do quite nicely: http://www.zotacusa.com/zotac-zbox-zboxsd-id10-u-intel-atom-nm-10-express-1-66-ghz-dual-core-all-in-one-mini-pc.html Still, scale is very important to making this worth while and I'm not sure how large your internet cafe is. On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 7:09 PM, Tom Sparks tom_a_spa...@yahoo.com.auwrote: I am wondering if there is a version of ubuntu for an internet cafe? Is there a installable read-only (liveCD like) version of ubuntu? tom_a_sparks Light travels faster then sound, which is why some people appear bright, until you hear them speak -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
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--- On Tue, 15/6/10, David Fawcett omniw...@gmail.com wrote: From: David Fawcett omniw...@gmail.com Subject: Re: ubuntu for Internet cafe To: Tom Sparks tom_a_spa...@yahoo.com.au Cc: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com Received: Tuesday, 15 June, 2010, 6:34 PM Hey Tom, If I was going to run an internet cafe (I'm assuming 15-20 users at once here) and wanted to restrict what my users could do with the PCs then I would consider running a server and thin clients out to each of the desktops. diskless version could do the same and can play videos locally We only have 6 computers that the public can use running windows XP/2003 I am getting the feeling that they want to upgrade them to vista :( I would like to install one with ubuntu (but I cant see that happening) tom sparks -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
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On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 6:55 PM, Tom Sparks tom_a_spa...@yahoo.com.auwrote: --- On *Tue, 15/6/10, David Fawcett omniw...@gmail.com* wrote: From: David Fawcett omniw...@gmail.com Subject: Re: ubuntu for Internet cafe To: Tom Sparks tom_a_spa...@yahoo.com.au Cc: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com Received: Tuesday, 15 June, 2010, 6:34 PM Hey Tom, If I was going to run an internet cafe (I'm assuming 15-20 users at once here) and wanted to restrict what my users could do with the PCs then I would consider running a server and thin clients out to each of the desktops. diskless version could do the same and can play videos locally We only have 6 computers that the public can use running windows XP/2003 I am getting the feeling that they want to upgrade them to vista :( I would like to install one with ubuntu (but I cant see that happening) tom sparks No worries Tom, I just thought I'd throw the idea out there. ;) Do you mind if I ask what exactly your clients requirements are? What do they want to achieve in the end? -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
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On 15/06/10 19:26, David Fawcett wrote: On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 6:55 PM, Tom Sparks tom_a_spa...@yahoo.com.au mailto:tom_a_spa...@yahoo.com.au wrote: --- On *Tue, 15/6/10, David Fawcett /omniw...@gmail.com mailto:omniw...@gmail.com/* wrote: From: David Fawcett omniw...@gmail.com mailto:omniw...@gmail.com Subject: Re: ubuntu for Internet cafe To: Tom Sparks tom_a_spa...@yahoo.com.au mailto:tom_a_spa...@yahoo.com.au Cc: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com Received: Tuesday, 15 June, 2010, 6:34 PM Hey Tom, If I was going to run an internet cafe (I'm assuming 15-20 users at once here) and wanted to restrict what my users could do with the PCs then I would consider running a server and thin clients out to each of the desktops. diskless version could do the same and can play videos locally We only have 6 computers that the public can use running windows XP/2003 I am getting the feeling that they want to upgrade them to vista :( I would like to install one with ubuntu (but I cant see that happening) tom sparks No worries Tom, I just thought I'd throw the idea out there. ;) Do you mind if I ask what exactly your clients requirements are? What do they want to achieve in the end? Now it has taken 2 days and 6 posts to get to this stage - and the answers are still to come. Wouldn't it be so very nice if people would give all the details about their problem right from the start and save a lot of time?. :-) (I guess I am making this point because I had a dental appointment today and getting information reminded me of just like pulling teeth :-D .) BC -- Those who hold and those who are without property have ever formed distinct interests in society. James Madison -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
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On 14/06/10 15:07, Mitch Towner wrote: ... currently we use a program called Deep Freeze (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Freeze_%28software%29 ) on our windows computers the close likeness I seen is the ubuntu LiveCD Is there a ubuntu like program? tom PS: sorry for relying to you off-list Don't worry about it :-) . Your question is way beyond my level of knowledge. Somebody else would more than likely have the answer for you. But have a look here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1051420 and here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=172374 but then do a google search on deep freeze + ubuntu. Deep Freeze is available for Novell's SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop, so it's likely that it could be hacked (possibly only with Faronics' involvement) to work with Ubuntu: http://www.faronics.com/en/Products/DeepFreeze/DeepFreezeLinux.aspx Paul attachment: paul.vcf-- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
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On 14/06/10 16:20, Paul Gear wrote: On 14/06/10 15:07, Mitch Towner wrote: ... currently we use a program called Deep Freeze (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Freeze_%28software%29 ) on our windows computers the close likeness I seen is the ubuntu LiveCD Is there a ubuntu like program? tom PS: sorry for relying to you off-list Don't worry about it :-) . Your question is way beyond my level of knowledge. Somebody else would more than likely have the answer for you. But have a look here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1051420 and here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=172374 but then do a google search on deep freeze + ubuntu. Deep Freeze is available for Novell's SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop, so it's likely that it could be hacked (possibly only with Faronics' involvement) to work with Ubuntu: http://www.faronics.com/en/Products/DeepFreeze/DeepFreezeLinux.aspx Paul In the second reference I gave Tom there is actually a statement that Faronics is soliciting info from Linux users re Deep Freeze; so it seems that getting in touch with Faronics would be an excellent idea. BC -- Those who hold and those who are without property have ever formed distinct interests in society. James Madison -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
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On 14/06/10 16:31, Basil Chupin wrote: ... Deep Freeze is available for Novell's SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop, so it's likely that it could be hacked (possibly only with Faronics' involvement) to work with Ubuntu: http://www.faronics.com/en/Products/DeepFreeze/DeepFreezeLinux.aspx Paul In the second reference I gave Tom there is actually a statement that Faronics is soliciting info from Linux users re Deep Freeze; so it seems that getting in touch with Faronics would be an excellent idea. The part of the second reference that talks about that is over 3 years old. Since then, Faronics have actually released their Linux version (for Novell SLED). attachment: paul.vcf-- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
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On 14/06/10 16:34, Paul Gear wrote: On 14/06/10 16:31, Basil Chupin wrote: ... Deep Freeze is available for Novell's SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop, so it's likely that it could be hacked (possibly only with Faronics' involvement) to work with Ubuntu: http://www.faronics.com/en/Products/DeepFreeze/DeepFreezeLinux.aspx Paul In the second reference I gave Tom there is actually a statement that Faronics is soliciting info from Linux users re Deep Freeze; so it seems that getting in touch with Faronics would be an excellent idea. The part of the second reference that talks about that is over 3 years old. Since then, Faronics have actually released their Linux version (for Novell SLED). Ah, OK3 years old :-) . But I hardly think that SLED is something which normal users would install where Deep Freeze would be needed. Novell claims that, in the corporate world, they are second to Red Hat in popularity, but Ubuntu outshines anyone of these (ie, or their derivatives) combined when it comes to the great unwashed, let them eat cake, punters. BTW, this is not intended to be a your thingie is smaller than my thingie thingie :-) . BC -- Those who hold and those who are without property have ever formed distinct interests in society. James Madison -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
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You can install Ubuntu on a USB stick and boot from that. - unetbootin - General tool for putting an ISO image onto a USB stick - usb-createor-gkk (or -kde) - Ubuntu specific tool. so.. if you have an iso (CD or DVD) that does what you want, you can get to boot from from a USB stick (and possibly also a hard drive). This might help but tit isn't the whole solution. On the other hand, you could sell the Ubuntu-on-a-stick (4GB is apparently sufficient) and then they can take it away with them. Cheers, Paul On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 4:18 PM, Basil Chupin blchu...@iinet.net.au wrote: On 14/06/10 16:34, Paul Gear wrote: On 14/06/10 16:31, Basil Chupin wrote: ... Deep Freeze is available for Novell's SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop, so it's likely that it could be hacked (possibly only with Faronics' involvement) to work with Ubuntu: http://www.faronics.com/en/Products/DeepFreeze/DeepFreezeLinux.aspx Paul In the second reference I gave Tom there is actually a statement that Faronics is soliciting info from Linux users re Deep Freeze; so it seems that getting in touch with Faronics would be an excellent idea. The part of the second reference that talks about that is over 3 years old. Since then, Faronics have actually released their Linux version (for Novell SLED). Ah, OK3 years old :-) . But I hardly think that SLED is something which normal users would install where Deep Freeze would be needed. Novell claims that, in the corporate world, they are second to Red Hat in popularity, but Ubuntu outshines anyone of these (ie, or their derivatives) combined when it comes to the great unwashed, let them eat cake, punters. BTW, this is not intended to be a your thingie is smaller than my thingie thingie :-) . BC -- Those who hold and those who are without property have ever formed distinct interests in society. James Madison -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
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On 15/06/10 10:21, Paul Schulz wrote: You can install Ubuntu on a USB stick and boot from that. - unetbootin - General tool for putting an ISO image onto a USB stick - usb-createor-gkk (or -kde) - Ubuntu specific tool. so.. if you have an iso (CD or DVD) that does what you want, you can get to boot from from a USB stick (and possibly also a hard drive). This might help but tit isn't the whole solution. On the other hand, you could sell the Ubuntu-on-a-stick (4GB is apparently sufficient) and then they can take it away with them. I have the Lucid iso residing on a 4GB USB flash. Only slight hassle is that you will not get sound to work. If this is no hassle then its fine. One last comment: if installing the CD Live on a USB stick then you would need to consider the speed of the USB stick - you would probably want to use one of the fastest around (Corsair) for which you would be paying ~$31 + freight from Sydney. BC Cheers, Paul On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 4:18 PM, Basil Chupinblchu...@iinet.net.au wrote: On 14/06/10 16:34, Paul Gear wrote: On 14/06/10 16:31, Basil Chupin wrote: ... Deep Freeze is available for Novell's SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop, so it's likely that it could be hacked (possibly only with Faronics' involvement) to work with Ubuntu: http://www.faronics.com/en/Products/DeepFreeze/DeepFreezeLinux.aspx Paul In the second reference I gave Tom there is actually a statement that Faronics is soliciting info from Linux users re Deep Freeze; so it seems that getting in touch with Faronics would be an excellent idea. The part of the second reference that talks about that is over 3 years old. Since then, Faronics have actually released their Linux version (for Novell SLED). Ah, OK3 years old :-) . But I hardly think that SLED is something which normal users would install where Deep Freeze would be needed. Novell claims that, in the corporate world, they are second to Red Hat in popularity, but Ubuntu outshines anyone of these (ie, or their derivatives) combined when it comes to the great unwashed, let them eat cake, punters. BTW, this is not intended to be a your thingie is smaller than my thingie thingie :-) . BC -- Those who hold and those who are without property have ever formed distinct interests in society. James Madison -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au -- Those who hold and those who are without property have ever formed distinct interests in society. James Madison -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
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--- On Tue, 15/6/10, Paul Schulz p...@mawsonlakes.org wrote: From: Paul Schulz p...@mawsonlakes.org Subject: Re: ubuntu for Internet cafe To: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com Received: Tuesday, 15 June, 2010, 10:21 AM You can install Ubuntu on a USB stick and boot from that. - unetbootin - General tool for putting an ISO image onto a USB stick - usb-createor-gkk (or -kde) - Ubuntu specific tool. so.. if you have an iso (CD or DVD) that does what you want, you can get to boot from from a USB stick (and possibly also a hard drive). This might help but tit isn't the whole solution. On the other hand, you could sell the Ubuntu-on-a-stick (4GB is apparently sufficient) and then they can take it away with them. Cheers, Paul snip I know about the Ubutu-on-a-* but I need to download a new ISO for ever update tom -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
ubuntu for Internet cafe
I am wondering if there is a version of ubuntu for an internet cafe? Is there a installable read-only (liveCD like) version of ubuntu? tom_a_sparks Light travels faster then sound, which is why some people appear bright, until you hear them speak -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
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On 13/06/10 19:09, Tom Sparks wrote: I am wondering if there is a version of ubuntu for an internet cafe? Is there a installable read-only (liveCD like) version of ubuntu? I don't understandthe Ubuntu CD is a Live CD using which you can run Ubuntu to do most, but not all, things or you can install Ubuntu (Lucid for example) using this Live CD. You can even create a Live USB memory stick/flash drive (by using the Create Starup Disc) from an insallation of 10.04. What exactly are you asking help about? BC -- Those who hold and those who are without property have ever formed distinct interests in society. James Madison -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: ubuntu for Internet cafe
--- On Mon, 14/6/10, Tom Sparks tom_a_spa...@yahoo.com.au wrote: From: Tom Sparks tom_a_spa...@yahoo.com.au Subject: Re: ubuntu for Internet cafe To: Basil Chupin blchu...@iinet.net.au Received: Monday, 14 June, 2010, 10:37 AM --- On Sun, 13/6/10, Basil Chupin blchu...@iinet.net.au wrote: From: Basil Chupin blchu...@iinet.net.au Subject: Re: ubuntu for Internet cafe To: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com Received: Sunday, 13 June, 2010, 10:58 PM On 13/06/10 19:09, Tom Sparks wrote: I am wondering if there is a version of ubuntu for an internet cafe? Is there a installable read-only (liveCD like) version of ubuntu? I don't understandthe Ubuntu CD is a Live CD using which you can run Ubuntu to do most, but not all, things or you can install Ubuntu (Lucid for example) using this Live CD. You can even create a Live USB memory stick/flash drive (by using the Create Starup Disc) from an insallation of 10.04. What exactly are you asking help about? currently we use a program called Deep Freeze (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Freeze_%28software%29 ) on our windows computers the close likeness I seen is the ubuntu LiveCD Is there a ubuntu like program? tom PS: sorry for relying to you off-list -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: ubuntu for Internet cafe
On 14/06/10 10:40, Tom Sparks wrote: --- On Mon, 14/6/10, Tom Sparkstom_a_spa...@yahoo.com.au wrote: From: Tom Sparkstom_a_spa...@yahoo.com.au Subject: Re: ubuntu for Internet cafe To: Basil Chupinblchu...@iinet.net.au Received: Monday, 14 June, 2010, 10:37 AM --- On Sun, 13/6/10, Basil Chupin blchu...@iinet.net.au wrote: From: Basil Chupinblchu...@iinet.net.au Subject: Re: ubuntu for Internet cafe To: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com Received: Sunday, 13 June, 2010, 10:58 PM On 13/06/10 19:09, Tom Sparks wrote: I am wondering if there is a version of ubuntu for an internet cafe? Is there a installable read-only (liveCD like) version of ubuntu? I don't understandthe Ubuntu CD is a Live CD using which you can run Ubuntu to do most, but not all, things or you can install Ubuntu (Lucid for example) using this Live CD. You can even create a Live USB memory stick/flash drive (by using the Create Starup Disc) from an insallation of 10.04. What exactly are you asking help about? currently we use a program called Deep Freeze (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Freeze_%28software%29 ) on our windows computers the close likeness I seen is the ubuntu LiveCD Is there a ubuntu like program? tom PS: sorry for relying to you off-list Don't worry about it :-) . Your question is way beyond my level of knowledge. Somebody else would more than likely have the answer for you. But have a look here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1051420 and here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=172374 but then do a google search on deep freeze + ubuntu. BC -- Those who hold and those who are without property have ever formed distinct interests in society. James Madison -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: ubuntu for Internet cafe
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 14/06/10 14:22, Basil Chupin wrote: On 14/06/10 10:40, Tom Sparks wrote: --- On Mon, 14/6/10, Tom Sparkstom_a_spa...@yahoo.com.au wrote: From: Tom Sparkstom_a_spa...@yahoo.com.au Subject: Re: ubuntu for Internet cafe To: Basil Chupinblchu...@iinet.net.au Received: Monday, 14 June, 2010, 10:37 AM --- On Sun, 13/6/10, Basil Chupin blchu...@iinet.net.au wrote: From: Basil Chupinblchu...@iinet.net.au Subject: Re: ubuntu for Internet cafe To: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com Received: Sunday, 13 June, 2010, 10:58 PM On 13/06/10 19:09, Tom Sparks wrote: I am wondering if there is a version of ubuntu for an internet cafe? Is there a installable read-only (liveCD like) version of ubuntu? I don't understandthe Ubuntu CD is a Live CD using which you can run Ubuntu to do most, but not all, things or you can install Ubuntu (Lucid for example) using this Live CD. You can even create a Live USB memory stick/flash drive (by using the Create Starup Disc) from an insallation of 10.04. What exactly are you asking help about? currently we use a program called Deep Freeze (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Freeze_%28software%29 ) on our windows computers the close likeness I seen is the ubuntu LiveCD Is there a ubuntu like program? tom PS: sorry for relying to you off-list Don't worry about it :-) . Your question is way beyond my level of knowledge. Somebody else would more than likely have the answer for you. But have a look here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1051420 and here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=172374 but then do a google search on deep freeze + ubuntu. BC Hi Tom, Have you thought about setting up the systems exactly how you want them using the guest account? Also, something that *may* be worth looking into is Pessulus. There is an interesting article on Pessulus at http://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/add-restrictions-to-your-ubuntu-system-with-lockdown-editor-pessulus/ I haven't personally used that app, but I had it recommended to me by someone a while ago. Also, it's in the main repository so it should be easy enough to try out see if it does what you need. I hope this helps Warm Regards, Mitch Towner (kermiac) http://mitchtowner.net/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMFbj/AAoJENegJk0fbKNMBw4IAKMzCa1Fo6fX66an/wd+oRO8 e7PKUK5XlsQVB+y3hYvWcy+RKDMtl3Hdj0v6sTh0b+KqHRgDyKXZjaQlPqEVYOel kdQIxotHIUl/UpMJEjIuzSrgaNIkAFszCj8mzwKEUSq0RmSK0DqeetbL7B68FXxx xpqWrx5tQuAGkTlF0qVrkBWWCq4GlQoiy24z6cexICwTeaSAbqww3N1L5gcljhKd u3pTuAZDCalfbfwOowCSFNIQfc6UovNnRjI3Y/FaA7flSt2mF3mIMn4Iz7LqUH+/ ULxd7rLr8S8bcnmqZ7SQoVsLLH8za1+EjBmLa2zIcTu6cqdBP4Xbygq6M56PMG0= =LpD3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
