Re: ubuntu.org.au server down

2008-06-23 Thread Leslie Gossner
Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:
 On Fri, 6 Jun 2008 at 07:50, Chris Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
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 On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 09:40 +1000, Chris Jones wrote:
 
 The server always seems to get overloaded a little after each new
 release of Ubuntu and then admins claim that they are working on the
 problem so that it won?t happen again.

 I just wish the problem would be fixed once and for all instead of the
 same problem arising with each new release as has been for some years
 now.

 Regards

 Chris Jones

   
 Perhaps you can suggest a fix for the issue then? There's not much point
 complaining if you can't suggest a solution.
 

 But that's exactly how many bugs reports are made. Step One is identifying 
 the 
 symptoms. Then you ascertain the root problem and formulate a solution.

   
 Well the fix is clear. We need more powerful servers. Or better still, more
 servers.
 

 Not knowing the details of the setup, the fix cannot be clear at all. A 
 better 
 solution might involve more bandwidth, a more finely tuned configuration, a 
 new version of $PACKAGE, a reverse proxy or a zillion other things.

   
 I wasn't complaining as such, but simply pointing out that it's a
 continuing problem that isn't going away. And sooner or later, it must be
 fixed once and for all.
 

 Yes it is a problem, but let's identify the disease before we prescribe a 
 treatment.


   
If more powerful hardware is required what sort of hardware is needed?  
Im sure some of us have fairly decent equipment hanging around we dont 
need and would be happy to donate it if required.  It is the box that 
runs our Local server and we should support it.

Leslie Gossner

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Re: ubuntu.org.au server down

2008-06-08 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
On Fri, 6 Jun 2008 at 07:50, Chris Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 09:40 +1000, Chris Jones wrote:
  The server always seems to get overloaded a little after each new
  release of Ubuntu and then admins claim that they are working on the
  problem so that it won?t happen again.
 
  I just wish the problem would be fixed once and for all instead of the
  same problem arising with each new release as has been for some years
  now.
 
  Regards
 
  Chris Jones
 
 Perhaps you can suggest a fix for the issue then? There's not much point
 complaining if you can't suggest a solution.

But that's exactly how many bugs reports are made. Step One is identifying the 
symptoms. Then you ascertain the root problem and formulate a solution.

 Well the fix is clear. We need more powerful servers. Or better still, more
 servers.

Not knowing the details of the setup, the fix cannot be clear at all. A better 
solution might involve more bandwidth, a more finely tuned configuration, a 
new version of $PACKAGE, a reverse proxy or a zillion other things.

 I wasn't complaining as such, but simply pointing out that it's a
 continuing problem that isn't going away. And sooner or later, it must be
 fixed once and for all.

Yes it is a problem, but let's identify the disease before we prescribe a 
treatment.


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Re: ubuntu.org.au server down

2008-06-02 Thread William Grant
Chris Jones wrote:
 This problem never seems to amuse me.

I must have missed the email where somebody said it was vaguely amusing.

 The server always seems to get overloaded a little after each new release of
 Ubuntu and then admins claim that they are working on the problem so that it
 won't happen again.

Are you referring to the archive mirrors being slow after releases? If
so, it's completely unrelated. mekong is not an archive mirror. There's
no easy way to fix archive mirror slowdowns at this stage - we simply
have too many users wanting to upgrade, and need more mirror power!

As for mekong, we have a number of LoCo team websites and mail going
through it. It's not a particularly well-specced machine, but it
normally handles it fine. We're working on optimising things so it works
properly all of the time, rather than just most of it.

 I just wish the problem would be fixed once and for all instead of the same
 problem arising with each new release as has been for some years now.

The bandwidth required by all of our users upgrading is beyond
comprehension. If you can donate the insanely large amount of bandwidth
required, by all means do so. Bandwidth requires money (and lots of it),
and Canonical doesn't have a money tree. Canonical (and indeed the
Ubuntu development community) also has no control over third-party
mirrors such as the Optus one which give users so much grief around release.

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Re: ubuntu.org.au server down

2008-06-02 Thread James Collier
On Tue, 2008-06-03 at 09:40 +1000, Chris Jones wrote:
 The server always seems to get overloaded a little after each new
 release of Ubuntu and then admins claim that they are working on the
 problem so that it won’t happen again.

 I just wish the problem would be fixed once and for all instead of the
 same problem arising with each new release as has been for some years
 now.

 Regards
 
 Chris Jones

Perhaps you can suggest a fix for the issue then? There's not much point
complaining if you can't suggest a solution.

James Collier

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Re: ubuntu.org.au server down

2008-06-01 Thread William Grant
peter baker wrote:
 anyone else noticed that ubuntu.org.au http://ubuntu.org.au seems to
 be down
  
 This error (HTTP 500 Internal Server Error) means that the website you
 are visiting had a server problem which prevented the webpage from
 displaying

mekong has been having load issues lately, but we are working to resolve
them. I have had to alter DNS (among other things) to fix it, so it
should all be fine again within an hour. I'm keeping an eye on it, as
are admins from the LoCo teams that we share with.

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