Re: xubuntu upgrade/install
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Daniel Mons wrote: > Sebastian Spiess wrote: >> Hi Dan, >> >> I hope you can help me in some way... >> >> Yesterday I spend some time on IRC >> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/11/02/%23xubuntu.html time starting at 09:01 >> _sebastian1 >> and we went though all we could think of but nothing helped/worked. >> >> so I pulled the xorg.conf from my backup (gutsy) and copied it to the >> intrepid install it seemed to work as the machine was >> working. but in the end it X cam up saying it could only run in low gaphics >> mode. As mouse, thouchpad or keyb did not work >> I could not press the OK button. >> >> I attached the xorg.conf from gutsy and the log file >> > > Two friends of mine recently had the same problem post-upgrade. I'm > beginning to think this is something that needs to be filed as a bug. > > It seemed for them that vital input/graphics drivers where not brought > across in an upgrade. Your error log says X can't find a driver to > match your graphics card. > > The fix that worked for both of them was the following (each command is > one line, prefixed by "$" representing your command prompt). > > I've used "ubuntu-desktop" in the following. Replace with > xubuntu-desktop/kubuntu-desktop as you require. > > > > $ sudo apt-get update > > $ sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop xorg xserver-xorg > xserver-xorg-input-all -y > > $ sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup > > $ sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg > > > > What all of that does is ensure that Xorg, (X|K)Ubuntu-Desktop and all > the necessary drivers are installed. Then it moves your config to the > side and applies the new 1.5/7.4 Xorg ultra-minimalist config that does > a lot of autodetection. (My xorg.conf is 11 lines, and works perfectly > on my Toshiba laptop). > > Give it a whirl and see how you go. > > -Dan > Hi Dan, thanks for your advice, unfortunately I can only boot in recovery mode else the system hangs. In recovery mode my network is not working - this seemed strange to me at first so I did a search and came up with http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-629271.html and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=768875 but no success. I agree with you that this is a candidate for a bug and I would file one BUT I have no idea what I should write and report. Besides, I only wanted to upgrade computer and the give it strait back to my mother so she can do her banking and stuff. Now it's been 5 nights of trying and no success. Hardy live CD runs without problem so I probably go and install it a bit later. Any last ideas? CHeers, sebastian -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJEBX6MuBzgG5z7F8RApIhAKCYvHy6LhMki/+s7bcNboBaba1myQCg1pyQ gLOLe8PHiIQCVW0z3qVQzxo= =mJmK -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: xubuntu upgrade/install
Sebastian Spiess wrote: > Hi Dan, > > I hope you can help me in some way... > > Yesterday I spend some time on IRC > http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/11/02/%23xubuntu.html time starting at 09:01 > _sebastian1 > and we went though all we could think of but nothing helped/worked. > > so I pulled the xorg.conf from my backup (gutsy) and copied it to the > intrepid install it seemed to work as the machine was > working. but in the end it X cam up saying it could only run in low gaphics > mode. As mouse, thouchpad or keyb did not work > I could not press the OK button. > > I attached the xorg.conf from gutsy and the log file > Two friends of mine recently had the same problem post-upgrade. I'm beginning to think this is something that needs to be filed as a bug. It seemed for them that vital input/graphics drivers where not brought across in an upgrade. Your error log says X can't find a driver to match your graphics card. The fix that worked for both of them was the following (each command is one line, prefixed by "$" representing your command prompt). I've used "ubuntu-desktop" in the following. Replace with xubuntu-desktop/kubuntu-desktop as you require. $ sudo apt-get update $ sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop xorg xserver-xorg xserver-xorg-input-all -y $ sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup $ sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg What all of that does is ensure that Xorg, (X|K)Ubuntu-Desktop and all the necessary drivers are installed. Then it moves your config to the side and applies the new 1.5/7.4 Xorg ultra-minimalist config that does a lot of autodetection. (My xorg.conf is 11 lines, and works perfectly on my Toshiba laptop). Give it a whirl and see how you go. -Dan -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: xubuntu upgrade/install
Daniel Mons wrote: > Sebastian Spiess wrote: >> Hi Dan, >> >> I had the same thought that the alternate intaller would be better. >> >> Well, the installation went without problems - some things took a while but >> still. >> After the installation the reboot got stuck at the same spot again - >> 'starting GNOME displ manager' - as you suggested I >> let it run for ... more than 20min. Although the fan went on once in a while >> the notebook seemed rather idle the whole time. >> >> the strange thing is I have another even older and lower spec dell notebook >> which I upgraded from hardy to intrepid >> beta/rc/.. - slow sometimes but no problems here... >> >> Could it be that on the first start there is some lengthy hardware >> detection/config file thing going on? > > It sounds more like there's a mismatch between the driver Xorg is > selecting and your actual hardware. > > You can get back to a terminal/tty from X by pressing CTRL+ALT+F1, and > then logging in with your credentials from there. Have a look at the > file /var/log/Xorg.0.log and see if there are any notable error > messages, particularly towards the end. > > If it makes no sense to you, post it to the list and I'll have a look > over it. > > -Dan > Hi Dan, I hope you can help me in some way... Yesterday I spend some time on IRC http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/11/02/%23xubuntu.html time starting at 09:01 _sebastian1 and we went though all we could think of but nothing helped/worked. so I pulled the xorg.conf from my backup (gutsy) and copied it to the intrepid install it seemed to work as the machine was working. but in the end it X cam up saying it could only run in low gaphics mode. As mouse, thouchpad or keyb did not work I could not press the OK button. I attached the xorg.conf from gutsy and the log file slowly I am loosing it - I had a go with the hardy live CD and it went without problems. I used the intrepid live cd with an even older notebook and it worked... Maybe you have a idea!? cheers, sebastian # xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file) # # This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using # values from the debconf database. # # Edit this file with caution, and see the xorg.conf manual page. # (Type "man xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.) # # This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only* # if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg # package. # # If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated # again, run the following command: # sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg Section "Files" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Generic Keyboard" Driver "kbd" Option "CoreKeyboard" Option "XkbRules" "xorg" Option "XkbModel" "pc105" Option "XkbLayout" "us" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Configured Mouse" Driver "mouse" Option "CorePointer" Option "Device""/dev/input/mice" Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Synaptics Touchpad" Driver "synaptics" Option "SendCoreEvents""true" Option "Device""/dev/psaux" Option "Protocol" "auto-dev" Option "HorizEdgeScroll" "0" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Driver "wacom" Identifier "stylus" Option "Device""/dev/input/wacom" Option "Type" "stylus" Option "ForceDevice" "ISDV4" # Tablet PC ONLY EndSection Section "InputDevice" Driver "wacom" Identifier "eraser" Option "Device""/dev/input/wacom" Option "Type" "eraser" Option "ForceDevice" "ISDV4" # Tablet PC ONLY EndSection Section "InputDevice" Driver "wacom" Identifier "cursor" Option "Device""/dev/input/wacom" Option "Type" "cursor" Option "ForceDevice" "ISDV4" # Tablet PC ONLY EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Intel Corporation 82815 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller]" Driver "i810" BusID "PCI:0:2:0" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Generic Monitor" Option "DPMS" HorizSync 28-51 VertRefresh 43-60 EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Default Screen" Device "Intel Corporation 82815 CGC [Chipset Graphics Cont
Re: xubuntu upgrade/install
Sebastian Spiess wrote: > Hi Dan, > > I had the same thought that the alternate intaller would be better. > > Well, the installation went without problems - some things took a while but > still. > After the installation the reboot got stuck at the same spot again - > 'starting GNOME displ manager' - as you suggested I > let it run for ... more than 20min. Although the fan went on once in a while > the notebook seemed rather idle the whole time. > > the strange thing is I have another even older and lower spec dell notebook > which I upgraded from hardy to intrepid > beta/rc/.. - slow sometimes but no problems here... > > Could it be that on the first start there is some lengthy hardware > detection/config file thing going on? It sounds more like there's a mismatch between the driver Xorg is selecting and your actual hardware. You can get back to a terminal/tty from X by pressing CTRL+ALT+F1, and then logging in with your credentials from there. Have a look at the file /var/log/Xorg.0.log and see if there are any notable error messages, particularly towards the end. If it makes no sense to you, post it to the list and I'll have a look over it. -Dan -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: xubuntu upgrade/install
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Daniel Mons wrote: > Sebastian Spiess wrote: >> So donwloaded live CD and booted from it and it always gets stuck whith >> 'starting GNOME desktop manager' > > I've had a few people tell me the same, and upon investigation the > system did eventually get into GNOME, but could take upwards of half an > hour to get there due to slow CPU speed and low RAM. > > While LiveCDs are a nice idea, they are not practical for low-RAM > systems. My advice is to use the "Alternate" installer instead. FWIW, > I use this installer even on high-RAM systems for two major reasons: > > 1) It's much faster. A full install can sometimes be done in the time > it takes the LiveCD GUI installer just to boot to the desktop! > > 2) It also offers advanced disk setup options like RAID, LVM and > Encrypted LVM (a must for laptop users). These can be done > automatically by the installer (good for new users wanting advanced > features), manually by hand (good for us old greybeards who know exactly > what we want), or skipped altogether for simple partitioning. > > It is not difficult to use. There's no mouse input, but menus are > driven via ncurses (a quasi GUI system for console), and all options are > selectable with the keyboard arrows. Don't fear the Alternate installer > just because it's not mouse driven. > >> I tried different things for booting the machine >> vga=792 - this was needed in gutsy >> nosplash... to see what is happening >> fully live cd >> live cd with graphics compatibility (or whatever it is called) mode selected >> (F4 during boot) >> > > vga=normal is the way to set a standard text/non-framebuffer mode on > standard PC hardware. Also remove the "quiet" option to see more stuff > happening (in conjunction with nosplash, which you use already). > > -Dan > Hi Dan, I had the same thought that the alternate intaller would be better. Well, the installation went without problems - some things took a while but still. After the installation the reboot got stuck at the same spot again - 'starting GNOME displ manager' - as you suggested I let it run for ... more than 20min. Although the fan went on once in a while the notebook seemed rather idle the whole time. the strange thing is I have another even older and lower spec dell notebook which I upgraded from hardy to intrepid beta/rc/.. - slow sometimes but no problems here... Could it be that on the first start there is some lengthy hardware detection/config file thing going on? seb -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJDVrjMuBzgG5z7F8RAjwhAJ9ztTPXTi00LTl7MMowU7zk6Zqf8wCfSluU vPIoh+gU+wNKecbcg5i0Ve8= =0JFh -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: xubuntu upgrade/install
Sebastian Spiess wrote: > So donwloaded live CD and booted from it and it always gets stuck whith > 'starting GNOME desktop manager' I've had a few people tell me the same, and upon investigation the system did eventually get into GNOME, but could take upwards of half an hour to get there due to slow CPU speed and low RAM. While LiveCDs are a nice idea, they are not practical for low-RAM systems. My advice is to use the "Alternate" installer instead. FWIW, I use this installer even on high-RAM systems for two major reasons: 1) It's much faster. A full install can sometimes be done in the time it takes the LiveCD GUI installer just to boot to the desktop! 2) It also offers advanced disk setup options like RAID, LVM and Encrypted LVM (a must for laptop users). These can be done automatically by the installer (good for new users wanting advanced features), manually by hand (good for us old greybeards who know exactly what we want), or skipped altogether for simple partitioning. It is not difficult to use. There's no mouse input, but menus are driven via ncurses (a quasi GUI system for console), and all options are selectable with the keyboard arrows. Don't fear the Alternate installer just because it's not mouse driven. > > I tried different things for booting the machine > vga=792 - this was needed in gutsy > nosplash... to see what is happening > fully live cd > live cd with graphics compatibility (or whatever it is called) mode selected > (F4 during boot) > vga=normal is the way to set a standard text/non-framebuffer mode on standard PC hardware. Also remove the "quiet" option to see more stuff happening (in conjunction with nosplash, which you use already). -Dan -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
xubuntu upgrade/install
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 hi all, yes it is upgrade time again. I want to do a fresh install on a old dell laptop. until now it ran xubuntu gusty. the notebook has ~380 RAM So donwloaded live CD and booted from it and it always gets stuck whith 'starting GNOME desktop manager' I tried different things for booting the machine vga=792 - this was needed in gutsy nosplash... to see what is happening fully live cd live cd with graphics compatibility (or whatever it is called) mode selected (F4 during boot) as soon as the boot process hits this 'starting GNOME desktop manager' CD-drive and fan spin down and it goes qiet. any ideas? I was hoping to get this one upgraded by tomorow... -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJDGBLMuBzgG5z7F8RAk4JAJ45Ecm83NSlNBqWP5rdWtZKLQw62wCgseCm Yuw6bniuUMoJTcMz4Ivzn0g= =iA7X -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
