[Bug 248055] Re: gtk-gnutella cannot connect to newer network - ancient version detected

2008-08-19 Thread ram
Hello,

I am part of the gtk-gnutella development team.  I'd like to make a few
points:

First, since 0.96.4, gtk-gnutella no longer prevents anyone from using
an "old" version,  You are simply reminded that you should upgrade as
older versions are harmful to the network and 0.96.4 is REALLY old.

Secondly, it is not possible to provide a simple patch to make 0.96.4
work. I can send you a patch between 0.96.6 and 0.96.4 if you want
though.

Lastly, I wonder what kind of release management it is to refuse to
upgrade an application that, by nature, cannot work as distributed
because it could introduce "instabilities"?  Do you consider a program
that does not work "stable"?  I consider it "dead", which indeed is the
most stable state you can find.

It shows that binary distribution is harmful, if anything, and that
change control (a good practice, don't get me wrong) must be dealt with
using 120% of your intellect instead of just following written
procedures. We're talking about an application that cannot work in
today's environment, and which is not a dependency source: nothing
depends on gtk-gnutella in Debian, nothing should depend on it in Ubuntu
as well. So tell me, what kind of harm can there be upgrading to a newer
version?

For all users out there who want a working gtk-gnutella, the answer is
easy.  Install SVN, then do:

svn co https://gtk-gnutella.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/gtk-
gnutella/trunk/gtk-gnutella

Then follow the instructions in README.Debian, which should also apply
to Ubuntu.  The build should take minutes and then you'll be able to
join the Gnutella network again.

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[Bug 248055] Re: gtk-gnutella cannot connect to newer network - ancient version detected

2008-08-19 Thread spacefight
Thanks for all the insights Cody and Hew. Marking it as Won't Fix means
it's broken and will not be fixed, right? Will backports be distributed
over the software update mechanism as well?

>From the page linked by Cody:

"Stable release updates will, in general, only be issued in order to fix
high-impact bugs. Examples of such bugs include:

*  Bugs which may, under realistic circumstances, directly cause a 
security vulnerability. These are done by the security team and are documented 
at SecurityUpdateProcedures.
*  Bugs which represent severe regressions from the previous release of 
Ubuntu. This includes packages which are totally unusable, like being 
uninstallable or crashing on startup."

>From a simple user point of view, gtk-gnutella is totally unusable if we
consider the network connection establishing part of gtk-gnutella as
part of its startup procedure. It isn't a regression from the previous
version per se, it's worse.

I kindly ask you to reconsider.

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[Bug 239182] Re: segfualt in cairo_draw_with_xlib

2008-08-19 Thread Matteo Settenvini
Thank you Conn, you were obviously right. I missed it because the 
libflashsupport I had installed didn't come in a debian package in my system, 
so looking at, say, aptitude, made me think it wasn't installed here. I was 
wrong. It's indeed fixed removing libflashsupport and using the modified flash 
packages.
Thanks.

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