[Bug 248055] Re: gtk-gnutella cannot connect to newer network - ancient version detected
** Changed in: hardy-backports Status: Confirmed => Won't Fix -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Backporters, which is subscribed to Hardy Backports. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/248055 Title: gtk-gnutella cannot connect to newer network - ancient version detected To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gutsy-backports/+bug/248055/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-backports mailing list ubuntu-backports@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-backports
[Bug 248055] Re: gtk-gnutella cannot connect to newer network - ancient version detected
gutsy no longer supported =( ** Changed in: gutsy-backports Status: New = Invalid -- gtk-gnutella cannot connect to newer network - ancient version detected https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/248055 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Backports Testing Team, which is subscribed to Gutsy Backports. -- ubuntu-backports mailing list ubuntu-backports@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-backports
[Bug 248055] Re: gtk-gnutella cannot connect to newer network - ancient version detected
Confirming that using prevu to build a back-ported package works. Would a patch that disables the out-of-date version detection disables initial peer retrieval (in the case of a new install) work? -- gtk-gnutella cannot connect to newer network - ancient version detected https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/248055 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Backports Testing Team, which is subscribed to Gutsy Backports. -- ubuntu-backports mailing list ubuntu-backports@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-backports
[Bug 248055] Re: gtk-gnutella cannot connect to newer network - ancient version detected
prevu gtk-gnutella/intrepid ls /var/cache/prevu/hardy-debs/gtk-gnutella_0.96.5-1build1~8.04prevu1_amd64.deb sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install gtk-gnutella gtk-gnutella sudo apt-get remove gtk-gnutella all ok ** Changed in: hardy-backports Status: New = Confirmed -- gtk-gnutella cannot connect to newer network - ancient version detected https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/248055 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Backports Testing Team, which is subscribed to Gutsy Backports. -- ubuntu-backports mailing list ubuntu-backports@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-backports
[Bug 248055] Re: gtk-gnutella cannot connect to newer network - ancient version detected
This is still broken in Hardy. Please update. -- gtk-gnutella cannot connect to newer network - ancient version detected https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/248055 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Backports Testing Team, which is subscribed to Gutsy Backports. -- ubuntu-backports mailing list ubuntu-backports@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-backports
[Bug 248055] Re: gtk-gnutella cannot connect to newer network - ancient version detected
This should be a medium or high importance backport for Hardy. -- gtk-gnutella cannot connect to newer network - ancient version detected https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/248055 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Backports Testing Team, which is subscribed to Gutsy Backports. -- ubuntu-backports mailing list ubuntu-backports@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-backports
[Bug 248055] Re: gtk-gnutella cannot connect to newer network - ancient version detected
This is not the case, reopening. No updates to gtk-gnutella have been issued for any release. Again, gtk-gnutella 0.96.5 is the minimum required to work with the rest of the network. While this isn't a problem for Intrepid users such as myself, I'm sure at least Hardy still has a need for the backport. ** Changed in: hardy-backports Status: Won't Fix = New ** Changed in: gutsy-backports Status: Won't Fix = New -- gtk-gnutella cannot connect to newer network - ancient version detected https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/248055 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Backports Testing Team, which is subscribed to Gutsy Backports. -- ubuntu-backports mailing list ubuntu-backports@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-backports
Re: [Bug 248055] Re: gtk-gnutella cannot connect to newer network - ancient version detected
Michael Casadevall wrote: This is dep-wait on libmicrohttpd4, and gnunet 0.80. Marking Incomplete. gtk-gnutella has nothing to do with those packages. -- gtk-gnutella cannot connect to newer network - ancient version detected https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/248055 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Backports Testing Team, which is subscribed to Gutsy Backports. -- ubuntu-backports mailing list ubuntu-backports@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-backports
[Bug 248055] Re: gtk-gnutella cannot connect to newer network - ancient version detected
Thanks for all the insights Cody and Hew. Marking it as Won't Fix means it's broken and will not be fixed, right? Will backports be distributed over the software update mechanism as well? From the page linked by Cody: Stable release updates will, in general, only be issued in order to fix high-impact bugs. Examples of such bugs include: * Bugs which may, under realistic circumstances, directly cause a security vulnerability. These are done by the security team and are documented at SecurityUpdateProcedures. * Bugs which represent severe regressions from the previous release of Ubuntu. This includes packages which are totally unusable, like being uninstallable or crashing on startup. From a simple user point of view, gtk-gnutella is totally unusable if we consider the network connection establishing part of gtk-gnutella as part of its startup procedure. It isn't a regression from the previous version per se, it's worse. I kindly ask you to reconsider. -- gtk-gnutella cannot connect to newer network - ancient version detected https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/248055 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Backports Testing Team, which is subscribed to Gutsy Backports. -- ubuntu-backports mailing list ubuntu-backports@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-backports
[Bug 248055] Re: gtk-gnutella cannot connect to newer network - ancient version detected
Hello, I am part of the gtk-gnutella development team. I'd like to make a few points: First, since 0.96.4, gtk-gnutella no longer prevents anyone from using an old version, You are simply reminded that you should upgrade as older versions are harmful to the network and 0.96.4 is REALLY old. Secondly, it is not possible to provide a simple patch to make 0.96.4 work. I can send you a patch between 0.96.6 and 0.96.4 if you want though. Lastly, I wonder what kind of release management it is to refuse to upgrade an application that, by nature, cannot work as distributed because it could introduce instabilities? Do you consider a program that does not work stable? I consider it dead, which indeed is the most stable state you can find. It shows that binary distribution is harmful, if anything, and that change control (a good practice, don't get me wrong) must be dealt with using 120% of your intellect instead of just following written procedures. We're talking about an application that cannot work in today's environment, and which is not a dependency source: nothing depends on gtk-gnutella in Debian, nothing should depend on it in Ubuntu as well. So tell me, what kind of harm can there be upgrading to a newer version? For all users out there who want a working gtk-gnutella, the answer is easy. Install SVN, then do: svn co https://gtk-gnutella.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/gtk- gnutella/trunk/gtk-gnutella Then follow the instructions in README.Debian, which should also apply to Ubuntu. The build should take minutes and then you'll be able to join the Gnutella network again. -- gtk-gnutella cannot connect to newer network - ancient version detected https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/248055 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Backports Testing Team, which is subscribed to Gutsy Backports. -- ubuntu-backports mailing list ubuntu-backports@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-backports
