[Bug 254468] Re: MASTER: momentary video garbage upon drawing new objects (particularly in KDE)

2011-02-04 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: xorg-server
   Importance: Unknown => Medium

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[Bug 254468] Re: MASTER: momentary video garbage upon drawing new objects (particularly in KDE)

2010-10-18 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: xorg-server
   Status: Invalid => Unknown

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[Bug 254468] Re: MASTER: momentary video garbage upon drawing new objects (particularly in KDE)

2010-05-07 Thread Alex Valavanis
Intrepid Ibex reached end-of-life on 30 April 2010 so I am closing the
report.  The bug has been fixed in newer releases of Ubuntu.

** Changed in: xorg-server (Ubuntu Intrepid)
   Status: Confirmed => Invalid

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[Bug 254468] Re: MASTER: momentary video garbage upon drawing new objects (particularly in KDE)

2010-04-30 Thread Tom Chiverton
Not seen on Intel hardware under 10.4

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[Bug 254468] Re: MASTER: momentary video garbage upon drawing new objects (particularly in KDE)

2010-02-22 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
** Branch linked: lp:ubuntu/xorg-server

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[Bug 254468] Re: MASTER: momentary video garbage upon drawing new objects (particularly in KDE)

2010-02-11 Thread LimCore
On Nvidia on Quadcore amd64 Ubuntu 9.10 I did NOT notice this bug for
some time now - but perhaps it is just less visible (happens too fast)

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[Bug 254468] Re: MASTER: momentary video garbage upon drawing new objects (particularly in KDE)

2009-09-08 Thread Travis Watkins
Once Qt 4.6 is released and in Ubuntu (hopefully karmic+1) we should be
able to reenable this patch since Qt will use the sync request protocol
just like GTK+ does.

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[Bug 254468] Re: MASTER: momentary video garbage upon drawing new objects (particularly in KDE)

2009-08-12 Thread LimCore
It indeed IS the case for nvidia, I myself seen it on both nvidia and
intel.

Perhaps in more recent ubuntu nvidia's version works better, didnt test enough.
On nvidia it was less likely to happen, perhaps because usually more video ram 
(to be used, avoid re-using of not-cleared pixmaps)

For me, on Ubuntu 9.04 amd64 on nvidia - I did not seen this problem for
some time now, will test for next week.

** Tags added: nvidia

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[Bug 254468] Re: MASTER: momentary video garbage upon drawing new objects (particularly in KDE)

2009-08-12 Thread Bryce Harrington
Should no longer be a problem on karmic since the patch that caused the
original problem was dropped long ago.

** Changed in: xorg-server (Ubuntu)
   Status: Incomplete => Fix Released

** Tags added: intel kubuntu
** Tags removed: epicfail intell

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Re: [Bug 254468] Re: MASTER: momentary video garbage upon drawing new objects (particularly in KDE)

2009-08-03 Thread sebas
On Monday 03 August 2009 23:00:16 lpirotte wrote:
> I don't have tested Karmic yet. I now run KDE 4.2.4 on Jaunty with
> Nvidia 180.44 drivers and it works fine.

Nvidia drivers don't expose the problem.
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Re: [Bug 254468] Re: MASTER: momentary video garbage upon drawing new objects (particularly in KDE)

2009-08-03 Thread lpirotte
Hi,

I don't have tested Karmic yet. I now run KDE 4.2.4 on Jaunty with
Nvidia 180.44 drivers and it works fine.

Regards

-Original Message-
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> Can you reproduce it with karmic?


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[Bug 254468] Re: MASTER: momentary video garbage upon drawing new objects (particularly in KDE)

2009-07-30 Thread Timo Aaltonen
Can you reproduce it with karmic?

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[Bug 254468] Re: MASTER: momentary video garbage upon drawing new objects (particularly in KDE)

2009-05-24 Thread Alan Jenkins
You might also want to look at Bug 373161, "Kubuntu: Random garbage
appears on old windows" (intel 965), which has been confirmed.

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[Bug 254468] Re: MASTER: momentary video garbage upon drawing new objects (particularly in KDE)

2009-05-24 Thread Milan
Could a developer explain what the exact status of this bug is supposed
to be in Jaunty? Since it's been marked as fixed, people have reported
rather contradictory results: should they file separate bugs on a per-
driver basis?

Myself I'm able to experience it with Intel i915, driver 2.7.1, EXA. I
remember seeing it with UXA and latest 2.7.99 driver, which would be a
real problem for the next releases - I'll check again and report.

** Changed in: xorg-server (Ubuntu)
   Status: Fix Released => Incomplete

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[Bug 254468] Re: MASTER: momentary video garbage upon drawing new objects (particularly in KDE)

2009-05-24 Thread VestniK
I'm really wondering why this bug is marked as fixed?

I'm running Kubuntu 9.04 with all updates avaluable from official
repositories and this bug still exists. The situation even become worth
with upgrade from 8.10 to 9.04 (actually it was not upgrade but
reinstallation since I always wondering which new changes in the
installer are added in new release).

It is mentioned in this ticket that the rendering garbage is shown for
less then a second in 8.10 while in 9.04 ithe garbage is not replaced by
the proper picture until some action wich causes window to repaint
itself (for example resizing the window affected by this bug).

I've red about using UXA to fix this bug and going to try it right now.
I'm able to do it but I have a friend who is running kubuntu but have
not enough knowlage to do it by herself. And marking this bug as fixed
is a crime against such users! This bug is not fixed until the default
installation with all upgrades from the default repositories works
without this bug. Morover UXA is experimental and according from the
description in wiki it can cause random Xserver crashes so it can't be
suitable solution for this problem.

Please murk this bug as open and don't close it until it can be fixed by
applying upgrades from the oficial repository. I'm shy to look at the
yes of my friends who installed kubuntu by my advise and facing such
unpleasent behaviour of the system.

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[Bug 254468] Re: MASTER: momentary video garbage upon drawing new objects (particularly in KDE)

2009-04-12 Thread Chris Samuel
Forgot to mention that I'm running the AMD64 2.6.29.1 kernel that the
Ubuntu mainline kernel people package here - http://kernel.ubuntu.com
/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.29.1/ - which would be a confounding factor.

I find that on my chipset (G33) UXA appears to work better than EXA, so
I'm happy to stick with it.

LimCore - if you want to test whether or not disabling 3D helps then you
can use:

Option "DRI" "false"

and/or:

Option "NoAccel" "true"

in your xorg.conf to see which (if either) helps.

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[Bug 254468] Re: MASTER: momentary video garbage upon drawing new objects (particularly in KDE)

2009-04-12 Thread LimCore

If we can not fix this, then perhaps just disable the 3d stuff?

1) fugly / crappy   Mac-wannabie  3d graphics  with SECURITY BUGS all over
-or-
2) normal desktop, with good security

I think 2 must be the default then.

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[Bug 254468] Re: MASTER: momentary video garbage upon drawing new objects (particularly in KDE)

2009-04-12 Thread Musthafa Meeran
UXA is not going to be enabled by default in Jaunty release, as it has 
stability issues with X (frequent X freezes etc).
Without UXA, I can confirm that I still having the issues that are mentioned 
before.
So, its not yet fixed for me !!

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[Bug 254468] Re: MASTER: momentary video garbage upon drawing new objects (particularly in KDE)

2009-04-12 Thread Chris Samuel
So far appears fixed for me on 9.04 (upgraded yesterday) with UXA
enabled.

00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31 Express
Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)

(II) intel(0): Integrated Graphics Chipset: Intel(R) G33

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[Bug 254468] Re: MASTER: momentary video garbage upon drawing new objects (particularly in KDE)

2009-04-08 Thread Musthafa Meeran
It is not fixed for me in Kubuntu 9.04 beta and still the problem
remains. The screen corruption occurs and traces of other applications
are left in some applications, mostly Kontact/KMail.

X server version: 1.6.0
Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics 
Controller (rev 03)

xserver-common/jaunty uptodate 2:1.6.0-0ubuntu11 
xserver-xorg/jaunty uptodate 1:7.4~5ubuntu18 
xserver-xorg-core/jaunty uptodate 2:1.6.0-0ubuntu11
xserver-xorg-video-intel/jaunty uptodate 2:2.6.3-0ubuntu8

Could you please re-open this bug and help me in getting this fixed
before the release?

Thanks a lot...

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[Bug 254468] Re: MASTER: momentary video garbage upon drawing new objects (particularly in KDE)

2009-04-01 Thread LimCore
** Description changed:

+ [Important bug]
+ 
+ This bug is an epic fail, because:
+ 
+   * it is a security bug:
+  * every time you switch windows, open menus, or LOCK THE SCREEN or start 
SCREEN SAVER, any people near by can see what was on your screen some time ago 
(random pixmaps).
+  * this can show up your emails
+  * this can show up your important documents (think: work and NDAs, and 
so on)
+  * this can show p0rn to your children (heh...)
+  * this can show your passwords (think: copy paste a password received 
via email, even with OpenPGP)
+ 
+ On top on that, all the things that where suppose to look nice (3d
+ effects), look TERRIBLE, showing ugly random pixmaps instead of nice
+ fadein/out/zoom. This makes entire 3d effects stuff USELESS on affected
+ hardware.
+ 
+ 
+ This affects many (most?) intell gfx - so probably most laptops!!!
+ 
  [Symptom]
  Whenever a new object is drawn, such as the application menu or any 
application whatsoever, the space in which it will be drawn is first allocated 
with video garbage. After a brief delay - perhaps 200ms - the garbage is 
properly replaced with the real object contents.
  
  [Discussion]
  The RedHat patch 107_fedora_dont_backfill_bg_none.patch, which is necessary 
for obtaining acceptable performance with compositing desktop managers, causes 
this problem because it bypasses the (sloow) initialization of background 
pixmaps.
  
   the problem is that windows can have their background pixmap set to 
"None", which means something vaguely like "don't draw a background at all, 
just reuse the bits underneath wherever the window got mapped" 
   it seems to have side effects...
   no kidding!
   in Composite there's no strong notion of "the bits underneath where 
you got mapped"
   since the compositor could map you anywhere
   trying to do what the protocol says is intensely painfully slow since 
it's a readback from the card and those aren't fast
   so what gnome quite sensibly does is tells the compositor not to show 
the window contents until they're painted, using the same sync protocol that 
window resizing uses. 
   and then the server just doesn't define initial window contents when 
the window is both redirected and bg=None
   so it wouldn't be wrong to assert there's an issue/buglet here (in 
kde) still, and the xorg patch is simply helping to expose it?
   it's sort of ugly no matter what you do, which is why we're still 
carrying that patch four releases later instead of having it upstream. anything 
you do here is wrong.
   you're either breaking protocol semantics that have been good for 
twenty years, or you're screwing performance.
   rdieter: i'd say kde should do the sync protocol for mapping here, 
yes. it'll make it look right on servers with this hack, but it'll also look 
better on unpatched servers since you won't see the menu in mid-draw 
  
  [Original Report]
  Binary package hint: kubuntu-kde4-desktop
  
  I'm running KDE 4.1 from the ppa listed at kubuntu.org, but I've had
  this issue ever since the first 4.0 betas. This is on a Hardy machine.
  
  Whenever a new object is drawn, such as the application menu or any
  application whatsoever, the space in which it will be drawn is first
  allocated with video garbage. After a brief delay - perhaps 200ms - the
  garbage is properly replaced with the real object contents. It looks as
  if it's displaying "old" video memory, if that makes sense. It is
  hard/impossible to get a proper screenshot depicting this.
  
  Restoring a minimized Firefox is a surefire way of reproducing it; every
  other time it will be video garbage, every other time it will just be a
  black box. And again, application menu, right-click menus, titlebar
  menus; *anything* KDE4 draws. After having once spawned the object, the
  next time it will draw "garbagelessly", with some exceptions (such as
  Firefox, for some reason).
  
  I've tried and gotten this on two machines running Intel integrated
  graphics (with the xserver-xorg-video-intel driver), and one with the
  proprietary Nvidia driver; both exhibit the same behavior. I've had some
  other people confirming it at the Ubuntu forums, too. Please see:
  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=788023&highlight=drawn+time&p=5009121
  and the following few replies.
  
  Enabling or disabling Desktop Effects doesn't seem to make any
  difference, and I've tried enabling random video options in xorg.conf
  but I can't say I've had much luck. For instance, on this intel machine:
  
  Option  "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps" "true" 
  Option  "InitialPixmapPlacement" "2"   
  Option  "DRI" "true"   
  Option  "AccelMethod" "EXA"
  Option  "ExaNoComposite" "false"
  Option  "MigrationHeuristic" "greedy"
  Option  "BackingStore" "true"
  Option  "Page

[Bug 254468] Re: MASTER: momentary video garbage upon drawing new objects (particularly in KDE)

2009-03-30 Thread Tom Chiverton
Have any intel users with this problem, and using Jaunty, tried UXA as per 
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/UxaTesting ?
Dispite the warning on that page, see my comment at the foot of the table.

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[Bug 254468] Re: MASTER: momentary video garbage upon drawing new objects (particularly in KDE)

2009-03-29 Thread Tom Chiverton
Scratch that - the problem listed in the Kubuntu 9.04 beta release notes
effects me (intel 945GM, intel driver) and although the Firefox menus
are fine, there is intermittent corruption of the main areas of core
applications (such as Kontact).

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[Bug 254468] Re: MASTER: momentary video garbage upon drawing new objects (particularly in KDE)

2009-03-29 Thread Michael Chang
I believe this particular bug is fixed for me, using intel driver with
9.4 beta, but I am now seeing garbage in other places (particularly when
switching between applications). Intend on filing new bugs when I get a
chance.

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[Bug 254468] Re: MASTER: momentary video garbage upon drawing new objects (particularly in KDE)

2009-03-29 Thread Tom Chiverton
Seems fixed here on my intel driver using hardware with the 9.4 beta.

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[Bug 254468] Re: MASTER: momentary video garbage upon drawing new objects (particularly in KDE)

2009-03-25 Thread Jonathan Thomas
The xserver packages in the kubuntu-experimental PPA were superseded by a 
bugfix update in intrepid-updates with a higher version. The 
kubuntu-experimental packages will need to be updated with that fix.
Closing the kubuntu-kde4-meta task, as it is not a problem with the 
kubuntu-kde4-desktop package from Hardy.

** Changed in: kubuntu-kde4-meta (Ubuntu Intrepid)
   Status: New => Invalid

** Changed in: kubuntu-kde4-meta (Ubuntu Jaunty)
   Status: New => Invalid

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[Bug 254468] Re: MASTER: momentary video garbage upon drawing new objects (particularly in KDE)

2009-03-25 Thread Tom Chiverton
All was well using the -backports X server, until the update tonight.
Now my garbage is back, in KDE4 from the same repo. Same symptom
(Firefox bookmarks menu).

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[Bug 254468] Re: MASTER: momentary video garbage upon drawing new objects (particularly in KDE)

2009-02-09 Thread Paulo Cesar Ferreira
There's a ppa with the xorg build without that patch, and correct if I'm
wrong, but you can find that build on the kubuntu's kde 4.2 ppa

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[Bug 254468] Re: MASTER: momentary video garbage upon drawing new objects (particularly in KDE)

2009-02-08 Thread Alex Kunitsa
how did you installed it on Intrepid?

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[Bug 254468] Re: MASTER: momentary video garbage upon drawing new objects (particularly in KDE)

2009-02-08 Thread Paulo Cesar Ferreira
Well, actually removing the patch makes my KDE4 experience with
composite much smoother. I'm using a onboard GMA950 on Intrepid, so this
performance drop probably just affects ATI owners. One more thing, does
anyone knows why this just affects Ubuntu?

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[Bug 254468] Re: MASTER: momentary video garbage upon drawing new objects (particularly in KDE)

2009-02-08 Thread Tom Chiverton
It's not 'only a visual distraction' it's a serious information
disclosure problem. See about 2 comments up this thread !

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[Bug 254468] Re: MASTER: momentary video garbage upon drawing new objects (particularly in KDE)

2009-02-08 Thread sebas
Just as a datapoint to the Xorg maintainers reading this:

Since the patch has been applied to Ubuntu's Xorg, compositing has
slowed down for me to a degree that I'm now running without it.

For example, it takes well beyond one second to get the yakuake window
up with compositing on, while before the Ubuntu Xorg packages were
updated, it would be almost instantaneously. It's absolutely swift with
compositing off.

I'd much rather have the momentary garbage on the screen, that was only
a visual distraction but didn't actually render the system less usable.

Hardware is ATI x1300, symptoms happen with the last couple of fglrx
drivers and the free radeon driver in Intrepid.

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[Bug 254468] Re: MASTER: momentary video garbage upon drawing new objects (particularly in KDE)

2009-02-08 Thread sebas
Just as a datapoint to the Xorg maintainers reading this:

Since the patch has been applied to Ubuntu's Xorg, compositing has
slowed down for me to a degree that I'm now running without it.

For example, it takes well beyond one second to get the yakuake window
up with compositing on, while before the Ubuntu Xorg packages were
updated, it would be almost instantaneously. It's absolutely swift with
compositing off.

I'd much rather have the momentary garbage on the screen, that was only
a visual distraction but didn't actually render the system less usable.

Hardware is ATI x1300, symptoms happen with the last couple of fglrx
drivers and the free radeon driver in Intrepid.

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[Bug 254468] Re: MASTER: momentary video garbage upon drawing new objects (particularly in KDE)

2009-01-31 Thread LimCore
Attaching example of the random pixmap, when starting firefox.
(krecordmydesktop - ogg video)

** Attachment added: "fail_xorg_random_pixmap_810_kde_intel.ogg"
   
http://launchpadlibrarian.net/21863830/fail_xorg_random_pixmap_810_kde_intel.ogg

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[Bug 254468] Re: MASTER: momentary video garbage upon drawing new objects (particularly in KDE)

2009-01-31 Thread LimCore
SECURITY (PRIVACY EXPOSURE) example

Another "use case" to demonstrate the security exposure.

1. run gqviewer image browser
2. open some por^H some secret images - say a picture of your boss with caption 
"you are noob"
3. then continue browsing, go to other folder with other photos, in example 
business presentation
4. invite boss
5. press space often to (quickly) jump to next picture in the presentation 
(perhaps in fullscreen mode - F key)
6. under right conditions, often one of the previously watched pictures (like 
the secret one) will for a moment pop-up (sometimes a bit distorted or in other 
colors)
7. look for a new job

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[Bug 254468] Re: MASTER: momentary video garbage upon drawing new objects (particularly in KDE)

2009-01-31 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
Oh, and that was with GNOME.

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[Bug 254468] Re: MASTER: momentary video garbage upon drawing new objects (particularly in KDE)

2009-01-31 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
Just wanted to point out that in Jaunty before this patch was applied, if I did 
the following:
1. Lock screen
2. Suspend before it finishes locking
3. Resume from suspend

I could read my email for about 3-5 seconds (Evolution was open at the
time) before it brought in the screensaver with the lock screen.  I was
using Compiz.

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[Bug 254468] Re: MASTER: momentary video garbage upon drawing new objects (particularly in KDE)

2009-01-31 Thread LimCore
This bug should be Critical.

Epic privacy exposure, especially thanks to the screen-saver.

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[Bug 254468] Re: MASTER: momentary video garbage upon drawing new objects (particularly in KDE)

2009-01-30 Thread Scott James Remnant
ScottK pointed me at this bug suggesting it was the cause of poor compiz
performance in jaunty ...

Timo, is there an identical X server but with this patch that I could
try to see whether it is the cause?

If it is, I wouldn't describe it as "lower performance" - it's taking
eight seconds to simply switch a workspace!

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[Bug 254468] Re: MASTER: momentary video garbage upon drawing new objects (particularly in KDE)

2009-01-28 Thread Tom Chiverton
That's a very good idea. And it's 'experimental' but will still get wide
testing.

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[Bug 254468] Re: MASTER: momentary video garbage upon drawing new objects (particularly in KDE)

2009-01-28 Thread Scott Kitterman
I just rebuilt xorg-server without the patch in question and this
definitely solves it.  I'm discussing with other Kubuntu Developers
about adding a patched version to the PPA where we are distributing KDE
4.2 for Intrepid.

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[Bug 254468] Re: MASTER: momentary video garbage upon drawing new objects (particularly in KDE)

2009-01-28 Thread Andy Goossens
I just installed KDE 4.2 and it is even worse now. It happens when
scrolling in Konsole, flickering or disappearing taskbar entries when
hovering them, ... It looks different, but it still is garbage. The
garbage is permanently visible (until you can make it redraw).

But... it will only appear when you have a particular window focused.
e.g. Eclipse or OpenOffice.org Writer (but not with OOo Calc, Impress or
Draw).

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[Bug 254468] Re: MASTER: momentary video garbage upon drawing new objects (particularly in KDE)

2009-01-25 Thread Andy Goossens
Kees Cook: I think you misread mosteo's comment. The garbage is the
direct cause of the privacy loss. At this moment I cannot just lock my
desktop and walk away because as soon as I turn my back the garbage may
display a personal mail, plain text passwords, etc...

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[Bug 254468] Re: MASTER: momentary video garbage upon drawing new objects (particularly in KDE)

2009-01-25 Thread Scott Kitterman
** Changed in: xorg-server (Ubuntu Intrepid)
   Importance: Undecided => High
   Status: New => Confirmed

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[Bug 254468] Re: MASTER: momentary video garbage upon drawing new objects (particularly in KDE)

2009-01-25 Thread Kees Cook
If there is a screen-locking privacy loss, a separate bug against gnome-
screensaver should be opened.  This bug is about the garbage-vs-
performance in the X server and associated drivers.

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[Bug 254468] Re: MASTER: momentary video garbage upon drawing new objects (particularly in KDE)

2009-01-24 Thread Scott Kitterman
This should be an SRU, not a backport.

** Changed in: intrepid-backports
   Status: New => Won't Fix

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[Bug 254468] Re: MASTER: momentary video garbage upon drawing new objects (particularly in KDE)

2009-01-21 Thread Michael Chang
The "Fix Released" status is correct -- the fix has been released -- in
Jaunty.

If you would like to see these changes in an earlier version of Ubuntu,
please take a look at the Backports and StableReleaseUpdates policies:

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates

Regarding the user who believes this is a security concern, you may want
to notify the security team, and verify that they are aware of the
problem, first.

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityUpdateProcedures

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[Bug 254468] Re: MASTER: momentary video garbage upon drawing new objects (particularly in KDE)

2009-01-21 Thread Michael Chang
** Also affects: intrepid-backports
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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