Re: [Bug 297543] Re: Update Package: nVidia 180.06

2008-12-03 Thread Xavier Gnata
nvidia release cycle is such as we get fully usable beta drivers.
Should we remove all the softwares with a version number  1.0 from the
repositories? ;)
beta or release is not a problem: It works! Other drivers do not work.

Xavier


On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 8:17 AM, ma2412ma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Why not? If the beta happens to be way better than the previous stable
 release where's the problem?

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 Status in Intrepid Ibex Backports: New
 Status in nvidia-graphics-drivers-177 source package in Ubuntu: Fix
 Released
 Status in nvidia-graphics-drivers-180 source package in Ubuntu: Fix
 Released
 Status in nvidia-graphics-drivers-177 in Ubuntu Intrepid: In Progress
 Status in nvidia-graphics-drivers-180 in Ubuntu Intrepid: In Progress
 Status in nvidia-graphics-drivers-177 in Ubuntu Jaunty: Fix Released
 Status in nvidia-graphics-drivers-180 in Ubuntu Jaunty: Fix Released

 Bug description:
 Release Highlights, 180.06

 http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=123072

* Added support for CUDA 2.1.
* Added initial support for PureVideo-like features on Linux via the new
 VDPAU API (see the vdpau.h header file installed withthe driver).
* Added new workstation performance optimizations.
* Enabled the X Render GlyphCache by default.
* Disabled shared memory X pixmaps by default; see theAllowSHMPixmaps
 option.
* Fixed a regression that could result in window decorationcorruption
 when running Compiz using Geforce 6 and 7 series GPUs.
* Improved X pixmap placement on GeForce 8 series and later GPUs.
* Improved compatibility with recent Linux kernels.
* Improved stability on some GeForce 8 series and newer GPUs.


 Release Highlights, 177.82:

* Added support for the following new GPUs:
  o Quadro NVS 450
  o Quadro FX 370 LP
  o Quadro FX 5800
  o Quadro FX 4800
  o Quadro FX 470
  o Quadro CX
* Fixed a problem on recent mobile GPUs that caused a power management
 resume from S3 to take 30+ seconds.
* Fixed a problem with hotkey switching on some recent mobile GPUs.
* Fixed an image corruption issue seen in FireFox 3.

 http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=1842773

 Tested without any notable issues.   Test with Jaunty  ?


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Re: [Bug 297543] Re: Update Package: nVidia 180.06

2008-12-03 Thread Mikael Nilsson
tis 2008-12-02 klockan 17:27 + skrev Shock:
 Alberto: Where are the packages available from? I wasn't able to find them.

They will be here:

http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/restricted/n/nvidia-graphics-
drivers-180/

For now, the binaries are here:

https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-
drivers-180/180.08-0ubuntu1/+build/802788

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Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose

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[Bug 297543] Re: Update Package: nVidia 180.06

2008-12-03 Thread Shock
Per this thread http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=124059
nvidia driver version 180.11 (beta) was released.

Release Highlights:

* Added support for the following new GPUs:
  o GeForce 9400M
* Fixed font corruption on GeForce 6 and 7 series GPUs when the GlyphCache 
setting is enabled.
* Fixed a memory leak problem when the GlyphCache setting is enabled.
* Added support for GVO full-range color.
* Fixed a problem parsing the monitor sync range X config file options.
* Improved VDPAU error detection and reporting.
* Improved VDPAU support for some video bitstreams.

The 180.11 NVIDIA Accelerated Linux Graphics Driver Set for Linux/x86 is 
available for download via FTP.
The 180.11 NVIDIA Accelerated Linux Graphics Driver Set for Linux/x86-64 is 
available for download via FTP.

Please see the README (x86, x86-64) for more information about this
release.

It seems to fix the font corruption issue I was mentioning earlier. Until we 
get the 180.11 driver in the repos (if we get it) there a couple of alternative 
fixes for the font corruption issue:
 1) set GlyphCache to 0: nvidia-settings -a GlyphCache=0
Some reports indicate that in some cases the InitialPixmapPlacement needs to be 
also set to 0 to get rid of the text corruption. YMMV
 2) disable sub-pixel hinting in the anti-aliasing settings.

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This info is provided AS IS and I make absolutely NO WARRANTIES whether express 
or implied. If you decide to use the info you do so at your own risk!

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[Bug 297543] Re: Update Package: nVidia 180.06

2008-12-03 Thread mattcasters
For what it is worth, I agree with the caution of the packagers in this case.
The driver is tagged beta for a reason.  Yes, it's true that most of my Kubuntu 
Intrepid issues went away with the upgrade to nvidia driver version 180.06.  
No, that was not the end of it.
As documented on the Nvidia forum, I'm still required to run this after every 
restart of X, including after every suspend/hibernate/reboot:

nvidia-settings -a GlyphCache=0 -a InitialPixmapPlacement=0

I also agree with Xavier and all since we can at least see something
on our screens in stead of being dumped to a command line prompt without
network support since that's apparently another stupid change in
Intrepid.

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[Bug 297543] Re: Update Package: nVidia 180.06

2008-12-03 Thread Filipe Sousa
here is what i did:

$ dget 
http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/restricted/n/nvidia-graphics-drivers-180/nvidia-graphics-drivers-180_180.08-0ubuntu1.dsc
$ pbuilder-intrepid build nvidia-graphics-drivers-180_180.08-0ubuntu1.dsc

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[Bug 297543] Re: Update Package: nVidia 180.06

2008-12-03 Thread ma2412ma
mattcasters, the requirement to run this command after every restart of
X might have been resolved with 180.11 as Shock pointed out.

Anyway, when will 180 (now 180.11) be added to the backports repository
of Intrepid?

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[Bug 297543] Re: Update Package: nVidia 180.06

2008-12-03 Thread Alberto Milone
mattcasters: glyphcache is enabled by default now. See the changelog of
180.06 (Enabled the X Render GlyphCache by default.)

Shock: I have packaged the new release (I was affected by the font
corruption bug too) and I have just asked a core developer to upload it
to Jaunty.

ma2412ma: it depends on how busy core developers are. I'll let you know
when the new packages are available in the backports.

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[Bug 297543] Re: Update Package: nVidia 180.06

2008-12-03 Thread Shock
Alberto,

Thanks again for all your work. I am most appreciative of it, I'm sure
others are too -- they're prolly just a bit more shy in voicing that :)

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[Bug 297543] Re: Update Package: nVidia 180.06

2008-12-03 Thread mattcasters
I was merely commenting on the fact that you can always make a decision
either way: get 180 out there immediately or after a bit of testing.
As 180.11 proves you can make a case for both.  In this case I think the
best thing to do was give the nv packagers a bit more time to fix a few
annoying (not critical) bugs.

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[Bug 297543] Re: Update Package: nVidia 180.06

2008-12-03 Thread Shock
mattcasters: get 180 out there immediately or after a bit of testing.

Who does the testing?
What is the downside of making it available immediately without pushing it as 
default/recommended?

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[Bug 297543] Re: Update Package: nVidia 180.06

2008-12-03 Thread mattcasters
Shock, these are good questions and I don't know the answers.  But that just 
proves that you and I are not in a position to evaluate the situation.
It's not about being right or wrong: you either trust the team and compliment 
Alberto  the rest with their good work or you don't.  (I do)  Have a little 
faith :-)

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Re: [Bug 297543] Re: Update Package: nVidia 180.06

2008-12-03 Thread Vadim Peretokin
The reason why I'm against them is because I had stability issues - screen
would sometimes flicker and whole computer just pause. However I installed
the driver via nvidia's own installer - so I'm waiting for a package to be
available in ubuntu for testing first.

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[Bug 297543] Re: Update Package: nVidia 180.06

2008-12-03 Thread Shock
@Vadim Peretokin: The simple fact that the drivers are available doesn't
force you to install them, see my earlier comments. The point is: you
have a choice of installing them or not AND if something goes wrong you
can roll back cleanly. Freedom of choice. Frankly, I wouldn't have such
a big problem installing them using the nvidia installer if there
weren't those reports about breaking the system if you do so.

I'm running Ubuntu on a production machine so I need it to have high
availability and be usable. Maybe this is making me overly cautious in
installing using the nvidia installer and so I would like to have the
option of installing using a package (cleaner, IMHO) especially since
the Recommended driver (177) had serious issues with OpenOffice (heavy
screen corruption -- Really?! On a production machine running a stable
version?! I'm not running a development version, BTW). I'm already sorry
I upgraded to Intrepid: upgrade broke the system so I had to do a clean
install only to find out that the office suite I need to use every day
has the side effect of causing screen corruption in some way.

This is why I'm saying that I think Canonical needs to do a far better
job in terms of hardware support and not simply rely on the community
especially because bug #1 is a target for the company. The fact that
ther target seems to be to provide the same level of usability as
Windows makes me run Ubuntu and not OpenSuse on my work machine.

Maybe this seems like a rant to you -- it's not meant to be. It's simply
some stuff that's been on my mind lately. I think it's not just me that
feels the same way and I think we need to voice our opinions if we want
resolution.

My 2c.

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[Bug 297543] Re: Update Package: nVidia 180.06

2008-12-02 Thread Mario Limonciello
** Also affects: intrepid-backports
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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[Bug 297543] Re: Update Package: nVidia 180.06

2008-12-02 Thread Noel J. Bergman
 the impatient can install my packages for Jaunty

From where?  I've made sure to keep up-to-date, and I still don't see
them via apt-get.  I've assumed that I just need to be a bit more
patient, but you seem to imply that even the impatient should be able to
see them by now.

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[Bug 297543] Re: Update Package: nVidia 180.06

2008-12-02 Thread Shock
Alberto: Where are the packages available from? I wasn't able to find them.
They show up in the Jaunty queue https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+queue but 
I don't think they've been built yet. Launchpad search returns no matches: 
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+search?text=nvidia-glx-180

I completely understand that the packages are in universe, but in the
grand scheme of things Canonical is doing a very poor job especially in
light of bug #1. Weeks have passed since the driver has been released by
Nvidia and it's still not available in Ubuntu. I consider good hardware
support the bare _minimum_ for us to stand a chance of resolving bug #1.

Please let me assure you, Alberto, that in no way I consider you
responsible for any of this -- In fact I have nothing but praise for
your work so far. Instead I think Canonical needs to find better ways
than relying on the community for basic hardware support such as video.
For example, Nvidia provides OpenSuse packages for their video drivers,
I would assume the same would be possible for Ubuntu.

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Re: [Bug 297543] Re: Update Package: nVidia 180.06

2008-12-02 Thread Vadim Peretokin
Erm, I don't consider a -beta- software to be available right away on
everybody's computer.

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[Bug 297543] Re: Update Package: nVidia 180.06

2008-12-02 Thread ma2412ma
Why not? If the beta happens to be way better than the previous stable
release where's the problem?

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