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[Ubuntu-ch] HiDPI

2014-01-24 Thread Marcus Moeller


Hi all,

does one of you already own a HiDPI machine (e.g. 3200x1800 on 13.1)?

From what I see, it is not really possible to use this resolution with 
Unity (maybe Unity Next). This might be really fatal if it's not fixed 
for 14.04 as till the end of the year nearly all new machines will have 
these high resolutions.


Greets
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[ubuntu-uk] Problem with Mail set up in Ubuntu 13.10

2014-01-24 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

I use a Hosted Exchange Email account (Office 365) and am having very odd 
problems connecting both in Thunderbird and Evolution.
If I try to set up IMAP email in both Tbird and Evolution, it just goes into a 
circle of an error message saying Cannot connect - is the User name and 
Password correct? which of course they are.
IMAP access works perfectly well in Thunderbird on Windows 8.1 so the server 
has IMAP set up OK.
Trying to use ExQuilla in TBird with EWS, the autodiscovery works fine, but it 
then hangs and finally fails on testing URL.

Other IMAP mail accounts work perfectly well in both Tbird and Evolution, so 
I'm at a loss as to why this particular IMAP account (and/or EWS via ExQuilla) 
doesn't work.
Anyone seen this and is there a solution?
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Re: Work-flow prototype

2014-01-24 Thread Alberto Salvia Novella

Work-flow illustrates *both *pile importance and typical bug flow:

* Bug *flow* begins with step 1, and ends with step 5.
* But pile *importance* is the opposite: the highest importance is for
step 5, and the lowest is for step 1.

Although people can *freely choose* where to contribute:

* They're *clearly shown* where help is more needed.
* They're *asked to stop* working when next step is congested.

*So* work-flow:

* First *liberates congestion* at the end of the flow, so previous
steps begin to move too.
* Is *visual* how work is flowing, so it's also easy to improve it and
choose where to work.
* Creates value *constantly* to the Ubuntu OS, so also constant
improvements in users' satisfaction and constant returns to the project.
* Takes advantage of *every piece of work* done, and makes work much
more *easier to understand*. So users will be much more prone to help.
* Changes the need to check for errors in the hole report to checking
only if previous step was okay, making the process zero-defects
and*mistake resistant*.
* Since errors in bug handling are not discovered in latter steps, but
immediately in next step, this also makes the management to
*accelerate*.

And for *warranting* this work-flow will respond well to any situation,
I designed it testing over the Ubuntu project, not the One Hundred
Papercuts project only. So only step 1 is specific to papercuts management.

On the other hand, it's very probable I'll *divide* step 4 (fix a
papercut) into more steps. So please subscribe
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/One%20Hundred%20Papercuts/Work-flow?action=subscribe
to the page and you'll receive notifications when work-flow is changed.

Thank you 

El 23/01/14 19:51, Dario Ruellan escribió:

Loved it!
Then, looking again to your 5 steps workflow, you're illustrating the
preferred priority for each bug-pile. NOT the actual bug workflow,
but the preferred workflow as a Papercutter, right?

On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Alberto Salvia Novella
es204904...@gmail.com mailto:es204904...@gmail.com wrote:

Here it is the explanation: the Bug Stream Map

https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/1049082/+attachment/3955080/+files/Bug%20Stream%20Map.pdf.

On the other hand, I expect the One Hundred Papercuts work-flow
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/One%20Hundred%20Papercuts/Work-flow to
change over time since, rather than details, what's relevant here
is the main concept.

If you *wanted to help* improving this prototype work-flow but
without leaving working in your projects, you can easily reuse the
work-flow in your desired project and give feedback.

Just open one of the lists
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/One%20Hundred%20Papercuts/Work-flow and
change, in your web-browser's *direction*, hundredpapercuts by
the desired project's short name (for example, ubuntu).

https://bugs.launchpad.net/*hundredpapercuts*/+bugs?field.searchtext=...

Good day  http://youtu.be/bS6B8zC2CNI

El 20/01/14 16:35, Dario Ruellan wrote:

Really like the idea. The links to the launchpad lists alone are
insanely handy.

I'm also wondering about the order. Waiting to read the proper
explanation.

On Jan 19, 2014 7:36 AM, Alberto Salvia Novella
es204904...@gmail.com mailto:es204904...@gmail.com wrote:

Can you make me a *favour*?

*Next time* you wanted to manage some bugs, please give this
little baby
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/One%20Hundred%20Papercuts/Workflow
a *try*; and then some (picky) *feedback*.

Have a nice day 

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Re: Introductory

2014-01-24 Thread Samuel Gabbay

Welcome to the team mate!


2014/1/23 Alberto Salvia Novella es204904...@gmail.com

  If you want to know, I could never had imagined that I was to learn that
 much being here!


 El 22/01/14 23:21, Luca Biolcati escribió:

  Dear Friends,

 I've been using Ubuntu since 2008, when I used to use 'Intrepid Ibex'
 version 8.10. I think that the Ubuntu Community is a great invention.
 Everyone can share free software! It's the demonstration that when people
 work together the results are great!! I'm studying PHP, C, Java
 languages!! I would like to contribute to the community, even if it will
 be very small one. I hope to learn something from this new experience. I
 think that in life you never finish to learn!!

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Re: Introductory

2014-01-24 Thread Phill Whiteside

Hi,

 there is so much to learn... Enjoy your time here. You will learn a lot.

Regards,

Phill.


On 23 January 2014 15:18, Alberto Salvia Novella es204904...@gmail.comwrote:

  If you want to know, I could never had imagined that I was to learn that
 much being here!


 El 22/01/14 23:21, Luca Biolcati escribió:

  Dear Friends,

 I've been using Ubuntu since 2008, when I used to use 'Intrepid Ibex'
 version 8.10. I think that the Ubuntu Community is a great invention.
 Everyone can share free software! It's the demonstration that when people
 work together the results are great!! I'm studying PHP, C, Java
 languages!! I would like to contribute to the community, even if it will
 be very small one. I hope to learn something from this new experience. I
 think that in life you never finish to learn!!

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Patch pilot report 2014-01-23

2014-01-24 Thread Daniel Holbach


Hello everybody,

here's what I got through in my shift yesterday and today:

Sync libxrandr 2:1.4.2-1 (main) from Debian unstable (main) (pad.lv/1271400)
Sync qtchooser 39-g4717841-2 (main) from Debian unstable (main) 
(pad.lv/1271142)
Sync ssh-import-id 3.19-1 (main) from Debian unstable (main) 
(pad.lv/1272152)

 - Synced.

Lubuntu  Xubuntu  Ubuntu Kylin lightdm session fails to start. 
user-session is not set (pad.lv/1259525)

 - unsubscribed sponsors, nothing left to be sponsored.

lp:~gunnarhj/ubuntu/trusty/im-config/lp-1271667
lp:~noskcaj/ubuntu/trusty/xfdesktop4/4.11.2-1
lp:~gandelman-a/ubuntu/trusty/awesome/fix_desktop_file
lp:~noskcaj/ubuntu/trusty/garcon/git-snapshot
lp:~noskcaj/ubuntu/trusty/xfce4-settings/4.11.1
Need to upload Ubuntu specific patches for subtitleeditor (pad.lv/1270621)
lp:~mitya57/ubuntu/trusty/pkg-kde-tools/0.15.12ubuntu1
lp:~noskcaj/ubuntu/trusty/xfwm4/4.11
gnome-sudoku crashes with TypeError when saving a very hard game 
(pad.lv/1252220)

lp:~noskcaj/ubuntu/trusty/xchat-gnome
lp:~logan/ubuntu/trusty/pinentry/0.8.3-1ubuntu1
lp:~mitya57/ubuntu/trusty/python-coverage/add-preinst-script
 - uploaded.

Please merge kexec-tools 1:2.0.4-1 (main) from debian unstable
 - patch does not apply, replied to the request.

alt-backtick doesn't work properly (pad.lv/907640)
 - mentioned the bug in #ubuntu-desktop

Include upstream patch for the ifupdown plugin to honor the source 
stanza (pad.lv/1271567)

 - mentioned it to Mathieu:
   cyphermox dholbach: ohh, shiny
   dholbach: yes, I'm about to upload a new NM, I'll
 include that

Have a great day,
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Ran autopkgtests with python3.4 as default

2014-01-24 Thread Martin Pitt

Hello all,

Matthias asked me to run all our available autopkgtests with python3.4
as default Python 3 (using the PPA [1]), to see the fallout. These
should be fixed before we consider making 3.4 the default Python3
version. The full raw logs are at [2], sorted into pass/ and fail/.

I went through the failures and converted them to LP bugs, so that
they can be tracked/assigned/etc:

  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=python3.4

Please note that some autopkgtests fail due to other reasons (many of
them have never succeeded at all). Also, this is only the list of 3.3
→ 3.4 regressions that we can detect automatically; of course we have
a lot more Python packages and code in the archive which isn't covered
by autopkgtest.

Martin

[1] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-toolchain-r/+archive/python3
[2] http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/tmp/autopkgtest-py34/
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Running our autopkgtests in LXC/on armhf

2014-01-24 Thread Martin Pitt

Hello all,

I recently set up some Calxeda ARM nodes that we got for QA and
improved autopkgtest enough so that we can efficiently and robustly
run autopkgtests using the LXC runner [1]. As a first smoketest I run
all our 310 existing autopkgtests except linux and libreoffice on
them.

I wanted to see whether the four servers, LXC, and autopkgtest are
robust enough, and indeed they survived that. That's a major
improvement from our first attempt to run them on Panda boards, which
fell over more often than not.

I set that off yesterday evening, and by today noon the last
test has finished. Two of the nodes were done this morning already,
but two others had the bad luck to catch tests which hung
indefinitely and thus only timed out after 4 hours.

The full raw logs are at [2]. I went through all failures of packages
which don't fail in our production run with Qemu/KVM [3] and
categorized/summarized them, notes are at [4].

Summary
---
  * 48 tests out of the 310 tests failed which don't fail with KVM on x86.

  * 34 failures happen on amd64 with LXC as well, with the same error.
I. e. they don't fail because of ARM, but because the test only
runs in a container and not in a full VM. (Note, we don't
currently have a kvm-like qemu on ARM, so we have to use LXC there)

  * 14 failures are ARM specific, i. e. they succeed on x86/LXC.

  * 2 packages fail which also fail on x86/LXC, but they have
additional errors.

So only 16 packages would need fixing to get their autopkgtests up to
par with x86. That's a lot less than I initially feared.

CI integration
--
We want to put this into production soon. To avoid blocking on LXC or
ARM/LXC specific failures, we will teach britney to only consider an
autopkgtest a failure if that test ever succeeded. In fact we should
do this for all architectures, as unfortunately 80% of the new
autopkgtests that we get fail (they hardly ever get tested in a proper
isolated environment by uploaders unfortunately).

Fixing tests

In some cases tests that work in qemu fail in LXC because the test
tries to do kernel-level things like loading modules, accessing
cgroups, etc. These tests just can't run in LXC, and there is little
that we can do about it. We'll just continue running them in Qemu on
x86 and don't run them on ARM.

But in quite a lot of cases this is because the autopkgtest LXC runner
is stricter than the null runner that we are currently using; for
example, if your test has Restrictions: build-needed then in Qemu
your test still has all the build dependencies installed, but the LXC
runner resets the testbed between build and test; so your
debian/tests/control needs to specify all runtime Depends:. (Note that
you can use @builddeps@ in cases where this is appropriate)

Fixing tests to work in LXC is greatly appreciated, so if you want
your package to always work on ARM, and want dependencies that break
your package be held in -proposed instead of landing and breaking your
package, please make sure that you have a working LXC autopkgtest.

Locally running tests in LXC

Dependencies:

  $ sudo apt-get install lxc autopkgtest

Create an LXC container:

  $ sudo lxc-create -t ubuntu-cloud -n trusty-cloud  -- -r trusty

  (You can use any other name with -n, of course)

Run tests from package pkgname in the archive:

  $ sudo adt-run pkgname --- adt-virt-lxc --ephemeral trusty-cloud

Run locally fixed tests for package pkgname with the packages from
the archive:

  $ cd pkgname-1.1/
  $ # fix debian/tests/
  $ sudo adt-run -B --unbuilt-tree=. --- adt-virt-lxc --ephemeral trusty-cloud

  The difference between --built-tree and --unbuilt-tree only matters
  if your test has Restrictions: build-needed; then, use
  whichever state your tree is in.

Build locally fixed package, install its built debs for the test, and
run fixed tests from local source tree:

  $ cd pkgname-1.1/
  $ # fix whatever
  $ sudo adt-run --unbuilt-tree=. --- adt-virt-lxc --ephemeral trusty-cloud

Note that you can use the -o /tmp/output-dir option to adt-run if
you want to put the autopkgtest logs into a directory.

Let me know if you have any question.

Thanks, and happy weekend!

Martin

[1] https://plus.google.com/u/0/107564545827215425270/posts/HktYxb8XdMy
[2] http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/tmp/autopkgtest-arm/
[3] https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Trusty/view/AutoPkgTest/
[4] http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/tmp/autopkgtest-arm/analysis.txt

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Patch pilot report 2013-01-24

2014-01-24 Thread Jamie Strandboge


 *
https://code.launchpad.net/~mitya57/maliit/maliit-framework-ubuntu-1270720/+merge/203036
- Bug 1270720: maliit-framework-dev has hard coded dependency on libqt5core5
   - in archive already, adjust MR
 *
https://code.launchpad.net/~timo-jyrinki/ubuntu/trusty/maliit-framework/fix_tests_under_qt52/+merge/203039
- ACK, test, sponsor upload
 * https://code.launchpad.net/~kirkland/pam/update-motd-now/+merge/202896
   - review, needs information
 *
https://code.launchpad.net/~sdeziel/ubuntu/precise/xl2tpd/fix-for-lp1244780/+merge/194247
   - MP has been evolutionary and hard to follow. Tried to detangle it-- some
 issues need to be addressed but also need info on why its all needed
 * https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-datetime/+bug/976100
   - tried to reproduce to see if relevant for 14.04 - could not because gnome
 fallback seems pretty broken. Ultimately heard back from the submitter and
 there is an upstream MP in progress, so unsubscribed ubuntu-sponsors since
 we'll just get it
 * LP: 1266016 - Disable insecure OTRv1 protocol - review, followup with tester
 *
https://code.launchpad.net/~lihow731/ubuntu/saucy/cpufreqd/fix-for-1162160/+merge/202195
   - Disapprove - debdiff was a merge rather than isolated patch and someone
 uploaded a fix already
 *
https://code.launchpad.net/~lihow731/ubuntu/saucy/gnome-calculator/fix-for-1209326/+merge/202198
   - Needs Fixing

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[Ubuntu-BR] Driver multif. Okidata B2500 MFP

2014-01-24 Thread Usiel Amaral

Tenho essa impressora multifuncional, Okidata B2500 MFP, e gostaria de 
usá-la no ubuntu 13.04, mas não encontrei drivers pra ela.


O mais importante pra mim é poder usar o scanner dela no ubuntu, já 
contatei o suporte técnico Okidata e me disseram que não dispõe de 
suporte pra linux.


Alguém pode me ajudar? seria possível usar o scanner dela no ubuntu?

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Ubuntu no Dell Inspirion 15R

2014-01-24 Thread Thalison Mendes

Sobre ocorrer a troca das configurações de vídeo quando se coloca e retira
o cabo de energia existe sim,esta configuração fica nas propriedades de
configuração de placa de vídeo. Tanto que você monta uma configuração para
cada cenário, definindo brilho, cor e resolução.


Em 23 de janeiro de 2014 17:47, Leandro Marino 
leandromar...@leandromarino.com.br escreveu:

 isso mesmo, Humberto. Agora quanto ao fato de apagar a tela nao existe isso
 nao... Ele vem com um Intel HD 4000 e Radeon HD 7730M !

 Quase não tenho o que reclamar da maquina, salvo o Wireless Descobri
 nesta semana que o wifi apesar de ser bgn só pega no máximo 150mbps, uma
 vez que ele tem uma configuração MIMO 1x1x1. Estou cogitando trocar a placa
 dele para uma intel que já pega ac1900 (35 USD)...
 Enfim

 No windows, todas as vezes que um programa é finalizado abre uma opção do
 catalyst para definir se vc quer alto desempenho ou modo economia para
 aquele programa, assim auxilia o pc a gerenciar qual a melhor placa deve
 estar ligada em cada situação.



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 Em 23 de janeiro de 2014 17:13, Rodrigo Maia rod.pm...@gmail.com
 escreveu:

  Há entendi preciso me atualizar desculpem-me :D deve ser legal esse
  sistema.
 
 
  Em 23 de janeiro de 2014 16:11, Humberto Fraga xisbe...@gmail.com
  escreveu:
 
   Em 23 de janeiro de 2014 16:07, Rodrigo Maia rod.pm...@gmail.com
   escreveu:
  
Como assim provavelmente o MODELO dele tem com placa INTEL e com
 PLACA
  3D
Como opcional nunca vi um notebook com duas VGA´s integradas
  diferentes
se fosse SLI até concordava com vc
   
  
   Na verdade, a placa intel é integrada ao processador (i5 ou i7). O
   sistema enxerga uma ou outra dependendo do estado da bateria.
  
   A primeira vez que vi um sistema desses, era com o Windows 7 e a tela
   apagava sempre que se conectava o carregador da bateria: neste momento
   havia a troca de placa de vídeo, a integrada ao processador quando
 apenas
   na bateria e a nvidia quando carregando.
  
  
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Sincronizando Fire Fox e Chromium

2014-01-24 Thread Pedro

Concordo com a rapaziada acima, XMARKS é a melhor opção para sincronizar os
favoritos entre os dois navegadores. *(também sou usuário antigo, nome
antigamente era foxmarks)*

Uma pergunta: Você pretende utilizar o chrome e/ou firefox no celular? Caso
sim, talvez seja preciso mais alguns passos.



att
Pedro Viana


2014/1/22 Adauto Serpa adautose...@gmail.com

 Sempre utilizei o Xmarks é muito bom. Uso ele desde que não se chamava
 xmarks rsrsrs

 Abs,

 Adauto Serpa
 Em 17/01/2014 11:06, Darlan Dapper darlan.dap...@gmail.com escreveu:

  Ola amigos da Lista
 
  Estou com uma duvida e gostaria de compartilhar com todos
 
  Eu uso os dois navegadores por que ainda n'ao me decidi por qual escolher
  ambos ao meu ver são ótimos
 
  Mas tenho tido uma certa chateação em deixar meus favoritos iguais nos
 dois
 
  Tem algum programa eu li algo sobre o Icloud porem este só trabalha bem
 nos
  maquinários do Steve
 
  Se tiverem uma dica para a solução agradeceria muito
 
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Driver multif. Okidata B2500 MFP

2014-01-24 Thread Andre Cavalcante

Usiel,


Em 24 de janeiro de 2014 06:14, Usiel Amaral us...@usiel.net escreveu:

 Tenho essa impressora multifuncional, Okidata B2500 MFP, e gostaria de
 usá-la no ubuntu 13.04, mas não encontrei drivers pra ela.


Cara, se não encontrares nada aqui: http://www.openprinting.org/printers,
esquece.



 O mais importante pra mim é poder usar o scanner dela no ubuntu, já
 contatei o suporte técnico Okidata e me disseram que não dispõe de suporte
 pra linux.

 Alguém pode me ajudar? seria possível usar o scanner dela no ubuntu?


O scanner muito provavelmente não vai funcionar.


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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Ubuntu no Dell Inspirion 15R

2014-01-24 Thread Ricardo Rafante

Tenho um inspiron 15r mais antigo com core i5 e placa amd radeon hd 6470m
tive grandes problemas em instalar o drivers de video pois os drivers x-org
aproveita bem da placa porém possui um problema de deixar a placa de video
rodando no maximo o tempo todo, aquecendo muito e o cooler ficava dentro o
tempo todo. Como dito acima o processadores da intel normalmente ja vem com
placa de video integrada e no boot a placa da intel é a preferencial (não
sei o por que) isto pode ser resolvido com os comando abaixo:

Editar o grub:

sudo gedit /etc/default/grub

procure por GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT e coloque conforme abaixo:

GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=quiet splash pcie_aspm=force radeon.nomodeset=1
depois atualize o grub

sudo update-grub

depois instale o catalyst, neste site mostra o passo a passo  somente assim
consegui resolver o meu problema com o driver de video.
http://cisight.com/install-amd-radeon-hd-6470m-and-solve-overheat-on-ubuntu-1110-oneiric/

Obs: uso o debian jessie


Em 24 de janeiro de 2014 09:35, Thalison Mendes
thalisonma...@gmail.comescreveu:

 Sobre ocorrer a troca das configurações de vídeo quando se coloca e retira
 o cabo de energia existe sim,esta configuração fica nas propriedades de
 configuração de placa de vídeo. Tanto que você monta uma configuração para
 cada cenário, definindo brilho, cor e resolução.


 Em 23 de janeiro de 2014 17:47, Leandro Marino 
 leandromar...@leandromarino.com.br escreveu:

  isso mesmo, Humberto. Agora quanto ao fato de apagar a tela nao existe
 isso
  nao... Ele vem com um Intel HD 4000 e Radeon HD 7730M !
 
  Quase não tenho o que reclamar da maquina, salvo o Wireless Descobri
  nesta semana que o wifi apesar de ser bgn só pega no máximo 150mbps, uma
  vez que ele tem uma configuração MIMO 1x1x1. Estou cogitando trocar a
 placa
  dele para uma intel que já pega ac1900 (35 USD)...
  Enfim
 
  No windows, todas as vezes que um programa é finalizado abre uma opção do
  catalyst para definir se vc quer alto desempenho ou modo economia para
  aquele programa, assim auxilia o pc a gerenciar qual a melhor placa deve
  estar ligada em cada situação.
 
 
 
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  Em 23 de janeiro de 2014 17:13, Rodrigo Maia rod.pm...@gmail.com
  escreveu:
 
   Há entendi preciso me atualizar desculpem-me :D deve ser legal esse
   sistema.
  
  
   Em 23 de janeiro de 2014 16:11, Humberto Fraga xisbe...@gmail.com
   escreveu:
  
Em 23 de janeiro de 2014 16:07, Rodrigo Maia rod.pm...@gmail.com
escreveu:
   
 Como assim provavelmente o MODELO dele tem com placa INTEL e com
  PLACA
   3D
 Como opcional nunca vi um notebook com duas VGA´s integradas
   diferentes
 se fosse SLI até concordava com vc

   
Na verdade, a placa intel é integrada ao processador (i5 ou i7). O
sistema enxerga uma ou outra dependendo do estado da bateria.
   
A primeira vez que vi um sistema desses, era com o Windows 7 e a tela
apagava sempre que se conectava o carregador da bateria: neste
 momento
havia a troca de placa de vídeo, a integrada ao processador quando
  apenas
na bateria e a nvidia quando carregando.
   
   
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[Ubuntu-be] Fwd: [Bug 1232823] Re: Re-verification, ubuntu-be

2014-01-24 Thread Claudio Mammarella



- Doorgestuurd bericht -
Van: José Antonio Rey j...@ubuntu.pe
Aan: claudio mammarella claudio.mammare...@telenet.be
Verzonden: Vrijdag 24 januari 2014 07:54:17
Onderwerp: [Bug 1232823] Re: Re-verification, ubuntu-be

Mark,

I shall remind you that the Belgian team expires on February 28th, 2014.
Make sure to file an application before it does so it can go through the
process smoothly.

Thanks!

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  Re-Verification task bug.
  Hi.

  This bug has been filed against your Ubuntu LoCo Team to by
  the Ubuntu LoCo Council on your behalf.

  According to our records your LoCo is a verified team. Verified teams
  must go through a re-verification process every two years.

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  This bug will be kept 'private' in launchpad.

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Re: Does ubuntu-gnome have accessibility support for, installation?

2014-01-24 Thread James Vorderbruggen

On 01/24/2014 06:00 AM, ubuntu-gnome-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com wrote:
 Message: 2
 Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 02:36:43 +0330
 From: hadi remonion hadirez...@gmx.com
 To: ubuntu-gnome@lists.ubuntu.com
 Subject: Does ubuntu-gnome have accessibility support for
   installation?
 Message-ID: 52e1a083.3030...@gmx.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

 Hello

 Please excuse me if this question has been asked before on this 
 mailinglist, I'm a new User.

 I wanted to know, that does UbuntuGnome come with accessibility options 
 for installation like ubuntu does?
 In this case, speech-guided installation, for visually impaired. In 
 ubuntu, at the boot screen, hitting  control+S fires up the speech 
 guided installation, so blind and visually impaired users can install 
 the system as well. then after the installation,  gnome-orca (the 
 screenreader), will automaticly run.

 I'm really interested to run ubuntu gnome, as Unity is extremely laggy 
 when navigating with orca
   Gnome-orca has been improved a lot in gnome 3.8 as well, that's also 
 one of the reasons that i'm eager to install this distro.

 Cheers
 Thanks.

 --

It does, but I don't think that it's as simple as pressing CTRL + S. 
When I started the installation from a VM, I had to select a language
first, and then press F5 for accessibility options.  This gives you a
list that you select from with the arrow keys.  I've attached a
screenshot of the list. (Obviously if you're visually impaired I
understand that this doesn't help, but if you're not I thought I should
be as complete as possible.) 
Good luck, and keep us posted if you try the install and learn
more.  I would like to add info about this to our wiki pages.
Someone else should also test this in case I'm missing something. :)

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Re: Does ubuntu-gnome have accessibility support for, installation?

2014-01-24 Thread hadi remonion


Hello james

it seemed that ubuntuGnome uses the same installer as ubuntu does, and 
since tim confirmed it last night, i went for a vm install.


I did the vm settings and powered on the machine, and i waited for the 
drum sound of ubuntu installation.

(it plays a drum sounds when the screen loads up)
i waited for 5 minutes, and it still didn't play the drum sound. so i 
decided to press control+s, and immediately i got speech feedback. and 
ScreenReader kicked in.
it was the screen which you can decide if you want to run ubuntu live or 
press the install button.
I installed the system, and after system reboot ScreenReader automaticly 
kicked in, and everything was setup already!


gnome-orca (which seems that was  renamed to screenreader BTW) is 
extremely speedy on gnome, (it comes with gnome)..

it is laggy on unity, and makes navigation hard in that desktop manager.
I expect more blind and visually impaired people coming toward 
ubuntuGnome, as it installs ubuntu plus latest gnome without any hassles 
or extra configurations, so i believe a wiki page that states that 
ubuntuGnome comes with speech installation helps.


p.s it would be awesome if a sound could be played when the installation 
screen comes up.


Cheers
Hadi

On 1/24/2014 7:20 PM, James Vorderbruggen wrote:

On 01/24/2014 06:00 AM, ubuntu-gnome-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com wrote:

Message: 2
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 02:36:43 +0330
From: hadi remonionhadirez...@gmx.com
To:ubuntu-gnome@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: Does ubuntu-gnome have accessibility support for
installation?
Message-ID:52e1a083.3030...@gmx.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed


Hello

Please excuse me if this question has been asked before on this
mailinglist, I'm a new User.

I wanted to know, that does UbuntuGnome come with accessibility options
for installation like ubuntu does?
In this case, speech-guided installation, for visually impaired. In
ubuntu, at the boot screen, hitting  control+S fires up the speech
guided installation, so blind and visually impaired users can install
the system as well. then after the installation,  gnome-orca (the
screenreader), will automaticly run.

I'm really interested to run ubuntu gnome, as Unity is extremely laggy
when navigating with orca
   Gnome-orca has been improved a lot in gnome 3.8 as well, that's also
one of the reasons that i'm eager to install this distro.

Cheers
Thanks.



--


It does, but I don't think that it's as simple as pressing CTRL + S.  
When I started the installation from a VM, I had to select a language 
first, and then press F5 for accessibility options.  This gives you a 
list that you select from with the arrow keys.  I've attached a 
screenshot of the list. (Obviously if you're visually impaired I 
understand that this doesn't help, but if you're not I thought I 
should be as complete as possible.)
Good luck, and keep us posted if you try the install and learn 
more.  I would like to add info about this to our wiki pages.

Someone else should also test this in case I'm missing something. :)

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Re: Does ubuntu-gnome have accessibility support for, installation?

2014-01-24 Thread Alfredo Hernández

That is, as both of you say, guys, very important. One of the best things
about GNOME is its accessibility features. We should promote them and
explain them on the wiki.

Also, if we could re enable that sound, that would be great.

Cheers,
Alfredo
On 24 Jan 2014 17:10, hadi remonion hadirez...@gmx.com wrote:

  Hello james

 it seemed that ubuntuGnome uses the same installer as ubuntu does, and
 since tim confirmed it last night, i went for a vm install.

 I did the vm settings and powered on the machine, and i waited for the
 drum sound of ubuntu installation.
 (it plays a drum sounds when the screen loads up)
 i waited for 5 minutes, and it still didn't play the drum sound. so i
 decided to press control+s, and immediately i got speech feedback. and
 ScreenReader kicked in.
 it was the screen which you can decide if you want to run ubuntu live or
 press the install button.
 I installed the system, and after system reboot ScreenReader automaticly
 kicked in, and everything was setup already!

 gnome-orca (which seems that was  renamed to screenreader BTW) is
 extremely speedy on gnome, (it comes with gnome)..
 it is laggy on unity, and makes navigation hard in that desktop manager.
 I expect more blind and visually impaired people coming toward
 ubuntuGnome, as it installs ubuntu plus latest gnome without any hassles or
 extra configurations, so i believe a wiki page that states that ubuntuGnome
 comes with speech installation helps.

 p.s it would be awesome if a sound could be played when the installation
 screen comes up.

 Cheers
 Hadi

 On 1/24/2014 7:20 PM, James Vorderbruggen wrote:

 On 01/24/2014 06:00 AM, ubuntu-gnome-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com wrote:

 Message: 2
 Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 02:36:43 +0330
 From: hadi remonion hadirez...@gmx.com hadirez...@gmx.com
 To: ubuntu-gnome@lists.ubuntu.com
 Subject: Does ubuntu-gnome have accessibility support for
   installation?
 Message-ID: 52e1a083.3030...@gmx.com 52e1a083.3030...@gmx.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed


 Hello

 Please excuse me if this question has been asked before on this
 mailinglist, I'm a new User.

 I wanted to know, that does UbuntuGnome come with accessibility options
 for installation like ubuntu does?
 In this case, speech-guided installation, for visually impaired. In
 ubuntu, at the boot screen, hitting  control+S fires up the speech
 guided installation, so blind and visually impaired users can install
 the system as well. then after the installation,  gnome-orca (the
 screenreader), will automaticly run.

 I'm really interested to run ubuntu gnome, as Unity is extremely laggy
 when navigating with orca
   Gnome-orca has been improved a lot in gnome 3.8 as well, that's also
 one of the reasons that i'm eager to install this distro.

 Cheers
 Thanks.



 --


 It does, but I don't think that it's as simple as pressing CTRL + S.  When
 I started the installation from a VM, I had to select a language first, and
 then press F5 for accessibility options.  This gives you a list that you
 select from with the arrow keys.  I've attached a screenshot of the list.
 (Obviously if you're visually impaired I understand that this doesn't help,
 but if you're not I thought I should be as complete as possible.)
 Good luck, and keep us posted if you try the install and learn more.
 I would like to add info about this to our wiki pages.
 Someone else should also test this in case I'm missing something. :)

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 My Wiki http://wiki.ubuntu.com/jamesvorder
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Re: Does ubuntu-gnome have accessibility support for, installation?

2014-01-24 Thread Ivan Ivanov

Yes, I accept the idea that accessibility options have to be promoted and 
explained in the Wiki. Good! I think this should be a blueprint and we have 
enough time to achieve this.

Ali is offline, but we can discuss this and the documentation team (where I am) 
can do this.








  Оригинално писмо 

От: Alfredo Hernández aldomann.desi...@gmail.com

Относно: Re: Does ubuntu-gnome have accessibility support for, installation?

До: hadi remonion  

Изпратено на: Петък, 2014, Януари 24 18:58:21 EET



 
 
  
That is, as both of you say, guys, very important. One of the best things about 
GNOME is its accessibility features. We should promote them and explain them on 
the wiki.   
  
Also, if we could re enable that sound, that would be great.   
  
Cheers, 
 Alfredo   
   
   On 24 Jan 2014 17:10, hadi remonion 
hadirez...@gmx.com  wrote:
   

 
  
  
  Hello james
  
 
  
 it seemed that ubuntuGnome uses the same installer as ubuntu does, and since 
tim confirmed it last night, i went for a vm install.
  
 
  
 I did the vm settings and powered on the machine, and i waited for the drum 
sound of ubuntu installation.
  
 (it plays a drum sounds when the screen loads up)
  
 i waited for 5 minutes, and it still didn't play the drum sound. so i decided 
to press control+s, and immediately i got speech feedback. and ScreenReader 
kicked in.
  
 it was the screen which you can decide if you want to run ubuntu live or press 
the install button.
  
 I installed the system, and after system reboot ScreenReader automaticly 
kicked in, and everything was setup already!
  
 
  
 gnome-orca (which seems that was
 renamed to screenreader BTW) is extremely speedy on gnome, (it comes with 
gnome)..
  
 it is laggy on unity, and makes navigation hard in that desktop manager.
  
 I expect more blind and visually impaired people coming toward ubuntuGnome, as 
it installs ubuntu plus latest gnome without any hassles or extra 
configurations, so i believe a wiki page that states that ubuntuGnome comes 
with speech installation helps.
  
 
  
 p.s it would be awesome if a sound could be played when the installation 
screen comes up.
  
 
  
 Cheers
  
 Hadi
  
 
  
 On 1/24/2014 7:20 PM, James Vorderbruggen wrote:
  
 
   
   
   
   On 01/24/2014 06:00 AM, 
ubuntu-gnome-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com  wrote:
   
 


Message: 2
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 02:36:43 +0330
From: hadi remonion
To:  ubuntu-gnome@lists.ubuntu.com 
Subject: Does ubuntu-gnome have accessibility support for
installation?
Message-ID:
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed


Hello

Please excuse me if this question has been asked before on this 
mailinglist, I'm a new User.

I wanted to know, that does UbuntuGnome come with accessibility options 
for installation like ubuntu does?
In this case, speech-guided installation, for visually impaired. In 
ubuntu, at the boot screen, hitting  control+S fires up the speech 
guided installation, so blind and visually impaired users can install 
the system as well. then after the installation,  gnome-orca (the 
screenreader), will automaticly run.

I'm really interested to run ubuntu gnome, as Unity is extremely laggy 
when navigating with orca
  Gnome-orca has been improved a lot in gnome 3.8 as well, that's also 
one of the reasons that i'm eager to install this distro.

Cheers
Thanks.

--  

  
 It does, but I don't think that it's as simple as pressing CTRL + S.
 When I started the installation from a VM, I had to select a language first, 
and then press F5 for accessibility options.
 This gives you a list that you select from with the arrow keys.
 I've attached a screenshot of the list. (Obviously if you're visually impaired 
I understand that this doesn't help, but if you're not I thought I should be as 
complete as possible.)
 
  
 


 Good luck, and keep us posted if you try the install and learn more.
 I would like to add info about this to our wiki pages.
  
 


 Someone else should also test this in case I'm missing something. :)
  
 
  
 
   
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Re: Ubuntu-GNOME Digest, Vol 11, Issue 49

2014-01-24 Thread Tim

On 25/01/14 06:20, Ivan Ivanov wrote:

Yes, that is all true. I can add this:

Call it politics or philosophy. Every Ubuntu related project which
pretends to be an official distribution (flavour) has to follow
the Ubuntu project concept - new release in every 6 months, LTS
release every two years, etc. Everything depends on the manpower.
Releasing new versions of Ubuntu GNOME in every 6 months will
prove the stability and productivity of our team.

6 Month releases in-line with Ubuntu Release schedule are one of the
requirements of being an officially recognized flavour.
LTS Releases are optional

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecognizedFlavors

Every advanced Linux user can install an old version of any Linux
distro and update kernel, software, desktop environment, etc. by
himself. And he can stay with this version as long as he wants (as
long as this distro is useful for him). But the 6-months cycle is
for all users who want to use Ubuntu: they are sure that in April
2014 there will be a download link for a stable and updated LTS
version of their favourite Ubuntu distro.

That's why every open-source project always needs new serious
contributors, testers, etc.

I hope the things will go in the right direction and in April 2014
we will be loving our Ubuntu GNOME 14.04 LTS.

: Steve Ovens steve_ov...@linux.com

: Re: Ubuntu-GNOME Digest, Vol 11, Issue 49

: Erick Brunzell lbsol...@yahoo.com

: , 2014, 23 19:23:00 EET

I am with Lance,

I have a significant number of computers/vms, enough that I
maintain a local repo. The only machine that moves from LTS is
generally my laptop.

However, I wonder, aside from the DE, since we just pull from
Ubuntu Main, the core still receives the updates to be on the
level with Ubuntu Main does it not?

On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:43 AM,
Erick Brunzell lbsol...@yahoo.com
wrote:

On 01/23/2014 09:47 AM, James Vorderbruggen
wrote:

On 01/23/2014 06:00 AM, ubuntu-gnome-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com
wrote:

Are you required by Ubuntu to create a LTS?

To me a LTS is not really high priority on this great Gnome distribution,
as the main reason for selecting Ubuntu GNOME is newest Gnome release.

I think people looking for a LTS will go for regular Ubuntu - what do you
think?

Regards,
Ren?
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I hadn't ever really thought of that... I think that
maybe the logic behind the LTS is that we should be
as official and stable as possible. If we don't do
the LTS, less people may feel comfortable using the
OS. If we do the LTS, people can still add the
latest version of GNOME if they want it ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/FAQ#Why_Ubuntu_GNOME_is_not_shipped_with_the_latest_version_of_GNOME.3F)

I hear what you're saying though. I think the
choice here is between being a more official distro
and being more of an experiment.

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Well there are people such as myself who maintain a fairly
large number of computers and simply can't upgrade them
all every 6 months, thus LTS which means Long Term Support
is quite attractive. I currently have 51 computers running
12.04.

Ultimately it will be up to Tim to decide if we can do an
LTS or not and I'm cool with that, I consider him our own
personal SABDFL :^)

If we can do an LTS that would be great, but if we can't
it's not the end of the world ;^)

Re: Ubuntu-GNOME Digest, Vol 11, Issue 49

2014-01-24 Thread Ivan Ivanov

Tim , I know that very well, it was only an example on what is really a
serious team that can handle every release if there are enough serious team
members :P And my mail was some kind of motivation :)))

Оригинално писмо

От: Tim t...@feathertop.org

Относно: Re: Ubuntu-GNOME Digest, Vol 11, Issue 49

До: ubuntu-gnome@lists.ubuntu.com

Изпратено на: Събота, 2014, Януари 25 01:06:31 EET

On 25/01/14 06:20, Ivan Ivanov wrote:

Yes, that is all true. I can add this:

Call it politics or philosophy. Every Ubuntu related project which pretends to
be an official distribution (flavour) has to follow the Ubuntu project concept
- new release in every 6 months, LTS release every two years, etc. Everything
depends on the manpower. Releasing new versions of Ubuntu GNOME in every 6
months will prove the stability and productivity of our team.

6 Month releases in-line with Ubuntu Release schedule are one of the
requirements of being an officially recognized flavour.

LTS Releases are optional

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecognizedFlavors

Every advanced Linux user can install an old version of any Linux distro and
update kernel, software, desktop environment, etc. by himself. And he can stay
with this version as long as he wants (as long as this distro is useful for
him). But the 6-months cycle is for all users who want to use Ubuntu: they are
sure that in April 2014 there will be a download link for a stable and updated
LTS version of their favourite Ubuntu distro.

That's why every open-source project always needs new serious contributors,
testers, etc.

I hope the things will go in the right direction and in April 2014 we will be
loving our Ubuntu GNOME 14.04 LTS.

Оригинално писмо

От: Steve Ovens
steve_ov...@linux.com

Относно: Re: Ubuntu-GNOME Digest, Vol 11, Issue 49

До: Erick Brunzell

Изпратено на: Четвъртък, 2014, Януари 23 19:23:00 EET

I am with Lance,

I have a significant number of computers/vms, enough that I maintain a local
repo. The only machine that moves from LTS is generally my laptop.

However, I wonder, aside from the DE, since we just pull from Ubuntu
Main, the core still receives the updates to be on the level with Ubuntu Main
does it not?

On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Erick Brunzell
lbsol...@yahoo.com wrote:

On 01/23/2014 09:47 AM, James Vorderbruggen wrote:

On 01/23/2014 06:00 AM,
ubuntu-gnome-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com wrote:

Are you required by Ubuntu to create a LTS?

To me a LTS is not really high priority on this great Gnome distribution,
as the main reason for selecting Ubuntu GNOME is newest Gnome release.

I think people looking for a LTS will go for regular Ubuntu - what do you
think?

Regards,
Ren?
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I hadn't ever really thought of that... I think that maybe the
logic behind the LTS is that we should be as official and stable as possible.
If we don't do the LTS, less people may feel comfortable using the OS.
If we do the LTS, people can still add the latest version of GNOME if they
want it (

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/FAQ#Why_Ubuntu_GNOME_is_not_shipped_with_the_latest_version_of_GNOME.3F
)

I hear what you're saying though.
I think the choice here is between being a more official distro and being more
of an experiment.

James Vorderbruggen

UbuntuGNOME Wiki and Documentation Team

My Wiki

Founder, Presences Web Development

Presences Web Development

Well there are people such as myself who maintain a fairly large
number of computers and simply can't upgrade them all every 6 months, thus LTS
which means Long Term Support is quite attractive. I currently have 51
computers running 12.04.

Ultimately it will be up to Tim to decide if we can do an LTS or not and I'm
cool with that, I consider him our own personal SABDFL :^)

If we can do an LTS that would be great, but if we can't it's not the end of
the world ;^)

Lance

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