[Bug 33950] Re: hdaps Y axis inverted

2008-02-06 Thread Chris Jones
Leann: I'm running hardy fully updated to this morning's packages and
there's still no movement at all from hdaps.

While I can't attest to its quality, having never used it - the tp_smapi driver 
brings significantly more useful features than an improved hdaps driver, ie 
battery charge thresholds.
So anything that can get tp_smapi included is probably a good thing. It's not 
in the vanilla kernel though for some reason. Shem is the upstream author aiui 
- perhaps he/she/it can shed some light on the driver's status.

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[Bug 162472] Re: acpi_fakekey in sleepbtn.sh does nothing when thinkpad_acpi is loaded

2008-02-06 Thread Chris Jones
I'm not sure that the description of this bug is exactly right, but it's
clear that hardy is regressing on ACPI button support from the number of
comments here, so I'm confirming this.

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[Bug 189204] Re: [hardy] rhythmbox lost support of laptop hotkeys

2008-02-05 Thread Chris Jones
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 188702 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/188702

I rebooted this morning and noticed this too. I'm not even using fancy
media keys for everything - play/pause is mapped to Scroll Lock, and
that doesn't work either

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[Bug 188965] Re: brightness resets to maximum

2008-02-05 Thread Chris Jones
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 137598 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/137598

** This bug has been marked a duplicate of bug 137598
   Screen brightness resets to default (maximum) on idle with AC plugged in

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[Bug 188115] [NEW] XkbGetKeyboard no longer reporting correct keyboard geometry

2008-02-01 Thread Chris Jones
Public bug reported:

It is possible to get the geometry of the currently used keyboard using the 
XkbGetKeyboard function.
In Gutsy this function works correctly.  In Hardy the geometry returned is 
incorrect.

Version of package: 1.1.3-1ubuntu1

Attached is a program that prints out the geometry of the keyboard using this 
function and it's output on Gutsy and Hardy.
The incorrect behaviour can also be observed in gnome-keyboard-properties.

** Affects: libx11 (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New

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[Bug 188115] Re: XkbGetKeyboard no longer reporting correct keyboard geometry

2008-02-01 Thread Chris Jones

** Attachment added: Test program that shows error
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[Bug 188115] Re: XkbGetKeyboard no longer reporting correct keyboard geometry

2008-02-01 Thread Chris Jones

** Attachment added: Incorrect hardy behaviour
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[Bug 188115] Re: XkbGetKeyboard no longer reporting correct keyboard geometry

2008-02-01 Thread Chris Jones

** Attachment added: Correct Gutsy behaviour
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[Bug 184510] Re: Bug 81910

2008-02-01 Thread Chris Jones
Bug #188115 in libx11 (Ubuntu)

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[Bug 184510] Re: Bug 81910

2008-02-01 Thread Chris Jones
Fix depends on the above bug.

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[Bug 185750] Re: Updating hal-cups-utils tries to remove ubuntu-desktop

2008-01-30 Thread Chris Jones
ubuntu-desktop appears to have been updated to fix this in the manner
Till suggested.

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[Bug 185947] Re: Language en_US does not exist; using System default

2008-01-29 Thread Chris Jones
I see the same thing with en_GB. I note that setting the language from gdm adds 
en_GB.UTF-8 to my .dmrc, which stops the complaining.
This is presumably therefore something from previous installs that is setting 
the language without the encoding, which the login session then complains about.
FWIW, I see this in /etc/environment:

LANGUAGE=en_GB:en

So it's either this or something similar that needs to be handled on
upgrade. I'm pretty sure it's not a language-selector bug though, so I'm
going to move this to gdm.

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Re: [Bug 178101] Re: vinagre crashed with SIGSEGV in setcontext()

2008-01-29 Thread Chris Jones
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 183169 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/183169

Hi

Andrew Conkling wrote:
 of the others here, so perhaps that fixes it as well. Can anyone reproduce
 the issues tracked here other than the missing hostname one?

I'm not able to make it segfault anymore, but I still can't connect to a
 passworded VNC server (a hardware box) I'm putting on localhost via an
ssh tunnel.

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[Bug 187187] Re: terminator create only an icon without a text in applications menu

2008-01-29 Thread Chris Jones
This is very interesting. I'm wondering if it's because
terminator.desktop in /usr/share/applications/ has blank translations.

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[Bug 156226] Re: Screen is not locked when laptop lid is closed

2008-01-28 Thread Chris Jones
I'm marking this as invalid for gnome-screensaver because I'm pretty
sure it's gnome-power-manager at fault.

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[Bug 156226] Re: Screen is not locked when laptop lid is closed

2008-01-28 Thread Chris Jones
It seems reasonable to confirm this, since it's been seen by several
people (myself included)

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[Bug 156226] Re: Screen is not locked when laptop lid is closed

2008-01-28 Thread Chris Jones
Gerhard: I think the problem is simply that /apps/gnome-power-
manager/lock/use_screensaver_settings should be on by default, that
fixes the regression.

What makes you think this is a duplicate of bug #173519? This bug is
about closing the lid and re-opening it not locking the screen.

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Re: EeePC

2008-01-26 Thread Chris Jones
From: martin fricke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: EeePC
To: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com


 Outlook Express is still around and still fully supported by Microsoft.  
 It's
 just now known as Windows Mail on Windows Vista. But it's essentially 
 the same application as Outlook Express and almost identical in 
 functionality.
 Just some information for those who may not be aware.

 Chris Jones

Outlook Express and it's replacement for Vista Windows Mail has ceased
development long ago. Microsoft's replacement for both apps is Windows
Live Mail and can be installed on XP or Vista.



You are right Martin and my apologies.

Although, Windows Live Mail is under heavy development at current by the
same development team that brought Vista Windows Mail.
And knowing Microsoft's old (well-known) habits of reusing old source code,
I suspect Windows Live Mail for the desktop will be built on the same
foundations of Windows Mail anyway.
So I don't think the end result will differ much anyway. Just a few
different functions and UI tweaks.

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Re: EeePC

2008-01-25 Thread Chris Jones
I would strongly suggest that you use a better mail client. Outlook
  Express has many flaws, and it isn't even being developed by Microsoft
  any more.

Actually, this information isn't entirely correct.

Outlook Express is still around and still fully supported by Microsoft. It's
just now known as Windows Mail on Windows Vista. But it's essentially the
same application as Outlook Express and almost identical in functionality.
Just some information for those who may not be aware.


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[Bug 185305] Re: Fn-F4 key doesn't suspend thinkpad x40

2008-01-25 Thread Chris Jones
I have an X40 running Hardy, updated to the latest packages as of today and 
Fn-F4 works for me.
Is gnome-power-manager configured to suspend when you press the suspend button?
Does suspending work if you close the lid? (with g-p-m configured for that as 
well)

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Re: [Bug 178101] Re: vinagre crashed with SIGSEGV in setcontext()

2008-01-25 Thread Chris Jones
Hi

Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote:
 http://emilio.pozuelo.org/~deb/vinagre_0.4-1_i386.deb, and the package

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Re: [Bug 178101] Re: vinagre crashed with SIGSEGV in setcontext()

2008-01-25 Thread Chris Jones
Hi

Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote:
 The package is already available, please test with it.

I'm not 100% sure it's the same segfault, but I am still unable to
connect to the passworded VNC box.

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RE: EeePC

2008-01-24 Thread Chris Jones
IMO, the Asus EeePC is simply too small for the price. Considering for less
than $200 extra, you can get a full featured Windows notebook with much
better hardware and more importantly, more screen real estate.

Obviously, it serves its purpose well being such a small device and all. But
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Re: eeePC

2008-01-24 Thread Chris Jones
I read an article in the paper on wed that quoted the eeepc's price as
$400.  is this correct?


I think the RRP is $499. I guess it’s up to the retailer you purchase from
as the what price they sell it for.

I checked them out at Officeworks last week and they were $499 at that time.

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[Bug 185750] Re: Updating hal-cups-utils tries to remove ubuntu-desktop

2008-01-24 Thread Chris Jones
As far as I can see, this is because system-config-printer-gnome should
replace system-config-printer in the ubuntu-desktop Depends (at least
the -gnome package claims to be the gtk config tool/applet

** Changed in: ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu)
Sourcepackagename: hal-cups-utils = ubuntu-meta
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[Bug 74231] Re: Icon colour changes at inappropriate times (too early; red, yellow, green)

2008-01-24 Thread Chris Jones
I suspect the icon should use a combination of the time and percentage
remaining, but for a long-lasting battery it does definitely give the
impression that it's dropping left. I currently have 50 minutes
remaining, but the indication in the icon is a tiny sliver of red about
the same height as the bottom edge of the battery.picture

** Changed in: gnome-power-manager (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided = Wishlist
   Status: New = Confirmed

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[Bug 103306] Re: compiz eats mouse clicks at the border of the screen

2008-01-24 Thread Chris Jones
confirming - this is back in hardy

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[Bug 139820] Re: Inhibit applet icon is not redrawn properly after inihibiting

2008-01-24 Thread Chris Jones
Still happens in hardy

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[Bug 172568] Re: gtk-window-decorator crash on undecorated window

2008-01-24 Thread Chris Jones
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 185784 ***
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[Bug 185529] Re: [Hardy] No filesystem drive in Computer

2008-01-24 Thread Chris Jones
I see this too, all I see is scsi drive, which doesnt open, and my
network shares.

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[Bug 184510] Re: Bug 81910

2008-01-22 Thread Chris Jones
Caused by XkbGetGeometry failing with BadAlloc.

** Changed in: onboard (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Chris Jones (tortoise)
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[Bug 133118] Re: very corrupt X after suspend/resume

2008-01-18 Thread Chris Jones
I'm moderately sure I was running the gutsy-proposed version, but I
can't easily be sure because I have now upgraded the affected machine to
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[Bug 182791] Re: 855GM resume problems

2008-01-16 Thread Chris Jones
This appears to be fixed with the 2.6.24-4 kernel and the correct hal
quirks, so not an Xorg driver bug.

** Changed in: xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 160592] Re: UPnP plugin fails to load: missing python-coherence

2008-01-15 Thread Chris Jones
Unless python-louie and python-coherence can be promoted to main,
presumably the best option here is to move the upnp plugin into its own
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[Bug 178101] Re: vinagre crashed with SIGSEGV in setcontext()

2008-01-15 Thread Chris Jones
I can reliably reproduce this crash while using vinagre to connect to an Adder 
(a hardware VGA-VNC unit) which works correctly with vncviewer.
The authentication it offers is:
 CConnection: Server offers security type RA2(5)
 CConnection: Server offers security type RA2ne(6)
 CConnection: Server offers security type VncAuth(2)
vncviewer chooses VncAuth(2).

Please let me know if you need more information.

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[Bug 182791] Re: 855GM resume problems

2008-01-14 Thread Chris Jones

** Attachment added: dmesg.txt
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[Bug 182791] Re: 855GM resume problems

2008-01-14 Thread Chris Jones
Xorg.0.log

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[Bug 182791] Re: 855GM resume problems

2008-01-14 Thread Chris Jones
This is using XAA acceleration, instead of EXA, fwiw.

Attached is a screenshot of gnome-panel showing some of the issues. The
background should be uniform grey with no previously shown imagery still
visible.

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[Bug 182791] 855GM resume problems

2008-01-14 Thread Chris Jones
Public bug reported:

Binary package hint: xserver-xorg-video-intel

ii  xserver-xorg-video-intel
2:2.2.0+git20080107-1ubuntu1

When I resume from suspend there seem to be some issues with the
display.

2D widgets that don't repaint themselves pick up historical corruption (e.g. 
Network Manager's icon shows a solid blur of the trails from where it was 
spinning and connecting, or firefox scrolling only scrolls a few lines at the 
bottom and generally gets messed up).
Causing these widgets to redraw (e.g. placing another window over them and then 
moving it out of the way) temporarily repairs them, but the errors will return 
if they subsequently render something.

GL (e.g. glxgears) simply gives an empty window. If compiz is enabled on
resume, the display is entirely blank.

This doesn't appear to be an exact regression of bug #133118, but is
similar in some ways.

** Affects: xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 182791] Re: 855GM resume problems

2008-01-14 Thread Chris Jones

** Attachment added: xorg.conf
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[Bug 182791] Re: 855GM resume problems

2008-01-14 Thread Chris Jones
Switching to EXA made the issue worse. Upon resume nothing is redrawn
properly. Exposed windows will draw a gtk background colour, but no
foreground or text (so mostly the screen was black!)

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[Bug 180692] Terminator

2008-01-05 Thread Chris Jones
Public bug reported:

Terminator is a python script which allows you to use terminals in grids. It 
uses the GNOME vte widget to do so.
I am the upstream author and would like to see it in Ubuntu.

** Affects: ubuntu
 Importance: Wishlist
 Assignee: Chris Jones (cmsj)
 Status: Confirmed


** Tags: needs-packaging

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[Bug 180692] Re: Terminator

2008-01-05 Thread Chris Jones
I am working on some packaging (available in the trunk of the Terminator
LP project) and have begun uploading it to REVU for assessment.

** Changed in: ubuntu
   Importance: Undecided = Wishlist

** Tags added: needs-packaging

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[Bug 180692] Re: Terminator

2008-01-05 Thread Chris Jones
** Changed in: ubuntu
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Chris Jones (cmsj)
   Status: New = Confirmed
   Target: None = hardy-alpha-3

** Changed in: ubuntu
   Target: hardy-alpha-3 = None

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Re: Deprecating slocate for desktop users?

2008-01-03 Thread Chris Jones
Hi

Timo Jyrinki wrote:
 use. Still, I think there is no GUI for it anyway, and everyone's home 
 directories are now indexed by Tracker, so what's the point?

Speaking for myself, I regularly use slocate to find things that are
outside my home directory (not that I use tracker for things that are in
my home directory - I put them where they are, so I know where they are ;)

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Re: LVM on hardy's live installer?

2008-01-01 Thread Chris Jones

 Message: 1
 Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2008 23:14:47 +1100
 From: Lex Hider [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: LVM on hardy's live installer?
 To: ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com
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 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
 
 Is there any plans to enable LVM for the live cd installers for hardy?
 
 As I understand it, it would be fairly simple to implement.
 
 Didn't previous versions of ubuntu have this feature?
 
 This feature is one thing that Fedora does much better than Ubuntu.
 
 Cheers,
 Lexual.
 
 
 
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 Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 12:28:21 -0500
 From: Mackenzie Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: LVM on hardy's live installer?
 To: Lex Hider [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 The Alternate CD has, as far as I'm aware, always had it, but I don't think
 the Live CD ever did.


Actually, I'm also pretty sure that the liveCD used to have it.


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[Bug 76489] Re: network device, module r8169, fails with NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out

2007-12-20 Thread Chris Jones
Alan: Something worth doing in the interim would be to try with hardy's kernel 
and see if it does the same (I can only see daily alternate installers, but 
booted into the expert mode I expect you can get a shell and set up the network 
by hand and run some stress testing on it).
If that's going to be a problem, let me know and I'll see if enough spare time 
shakes out of christmas to try it :)

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RE: regular fsck runs are too disturbing

2007-12-20 Thread Chris Jones
A little while ago there was a discussion here about fsck running at
boot,
and the program AutoFsck. The author of AutoFsck just contacted me and
asked
me what his next step should be. I don't have any official standing in
the
Ubuntu dev community, so I'm just going to forward his message out
here in
the hopes that it will get opened up for a more comprehensive
discussion.

Evan

PS I also sent him a link to join this list, so hopefully he'll be
able to
contribute to the discussion.


I too was contacted by a Jonathon Musther.
But the email I received was different. It reads...

Hi Chris Jones 
 
I wouldn\'t normally use this mailing list for anything other than
announcements about new versions of AutoFsck.  But I have been inundated
with people requesting information on how to promote AutoFsck, and get
it (or something with the functionality) into the Ubuntu distribution.
I\'ve been trying to do this myself for a long time, but have not got
very far.  To this end I have set up a petition at the bottom of the
page:
http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutoFsck

Please read it and consider adding your name.

Also feel free to email me if you have any comments, suggestions etc:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Kind Regards

Jonathan Musther
 


I'm not quite sure why I received it either. I suspect it's just because
I'm a member of the AutoFsck Mailing List.


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Re: New Programs for Hardy?

2007-12-12 Thread Chris Jones

 
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 Message: 1
 Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 05:06:18 -0600
 From: Conrad Knauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Fwd: Mono (Re: New Programs for Hardy?)
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 Hmm...  this ended up in sounder; should be in ubuntu-devel-discuss too.
 
 CK
 
 On Nov 28, 2007 4:49 AM, Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  We are always looking for more ways to reduce CD size so that we can fit
  more things on the CD [...] There are various other targets of opportunity
  [...] that we'll be looking into as well.

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Why is there so much focus on keeping the Ubuntu installer to the very
limited size of a CD-R ISO?
I mean, this modern world of computing we live in, the 700MB capacity of
a CD-R isn't much to play around with really.

I think sooner or later, Ubuntu is going to grow beyond what's possible
to squeez onto a 700MB iso and be forced to adopt the benefits of DVD5
storage. Maybe that time is approaching quicker than expected by some.

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[Bug 95277] Re: load dvb-usb-dib0700 driver for asus my cinema U3000 mini

2007-12-10 Thread Chris Jones
** Also affects: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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Re: Patent issues with automatic codec installation

2007-12-04 Thread Chris Jones



On Tue, 2007-12-04 at 08:20 -0400, Cody A.W. Somerville wrote:
 Right and thats what we do but GNU/Linux isn't about breaking the law.
 
 On Dec 4, 2007 5:47 AM, Chris Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 I wasn't saying that paying Fluendo is silly etc. If people
 wish to
 follow that path, that's great. 
 I was simply stating that I think that something as simple as
 audio/video codecs shouldn't have to come to this. It's
 insane!! ;-)
 
 The whole point of gnu/linux is to create a free and open
 source
 environment.
 And it seems that paying for simple codecs is going against
 what gnu
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Yes, but I think you're missing the whole point that I'm making.

If laws pressure linux users into setting up a pay-for-codec system,
then it's completely wrong.
Remember when DeCSS was first released? Sure, the laws were there
telling tux users that using a simple css script to simply watch a css
encrypted DVD was 'illegal'. But users kept doing it anyway and it has
now become accepted as a simple decryption script that is required for
watching DVDs.
Sure, Ubuntu cannot pre-install this by default as it could still be
illegal in some countries. But by warning the user before they install
the script/codecs that they ,ay be breaking a law in X country,
Canonical are covering themselves as it's up to the users discretion
whether to install it or not.

My point... the codec issue(s) we are talking about is no different. And
it seems that the laws are happy if we pay for a codec (depending of
course on what country we're talking about here) it's fine.
But if you source it for free, that's viewed as wrong.
C'mon mate, seriously, do you see something stupid going on here?

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Re: Patent issues with automatic codec installation

2007-12-03 Thread Chris Jones
-
 Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 13:35:30 +1300
 From: Aaron Whitehouse [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Patent issues with automatic codec installation (was:
   Automatic   installation of DVD CSS support)
 To: Christofer C. Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com
 Message-ID:
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   I would like to draw attention to a proposal that I think is very
   important for Ubuntu as a desktop deistribution: the possibility of
   automatically enabling CSS decryption support for DVDs, like it is already
   possible to retrieve support for certain audio/video endcodings 
   automatically.
 
  Please read the comments in the bug you linked to for explanation as
  to why this will not happen.
 
 As the comments in the bug state, the reason DeCSS is not included is
 (I imagine) to avoid violating the DMCA.
 
 The more that I think about the automatic codec installation of
 Ubuntu, the more that I am concerned that the current approach places
 the distribution in murky legal territory. Allowing (encouraging?) a
 user to install patent-violating codecs may not infringe the DMCA or
 copyright, but it still may not be the best idea. Think of Napster
 being sued for allowing others to infringe copyright.
 
 A large number of people respond to this by saying that they live in
 Europe and that their country does not enforce software-only patents.
 That doesn't matter much, considering that a patent-holder would bring
 any proceedings in countries that did enforce their patents.
 
 Fedora handles the situation with
 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/FeatureCodecBuddy - which
 allows users to purchase non-infringing codecs from Fluendo.
 http://www.fluendo.com/press/releases/PR-2007-01.html
 
 Perhaps a good compromise would be to default to Codec Buddy and have
 a button for Multiverse Codecs. When the user clicks the button,
 they could be presented with a message *actively discouraging* them
 from using the multiverse versions and highlighting that they are
 likely to break the law if they do so.
 
 In an attempt to disarm critics, I ask you to read:
 http://www.linux.com/articles/59830
 On the patent question, Fluendo's official stance is that it opposes
 software patents, but that in areas where they are the law, it has no
 choice but to obey the statutes. Perhaps more importantly, customers
 have no choice either. Some critics of Fluendo's plugin products are
 quick to point out that there are freely available, often GPLed
 libraries that decode the same formats. That is, however, irrelevant:
 the non-free formats are non-free not because of the license on the
 source code, but because of the patents on the format.
 
 Wherever possible, Fluendo encourages its customers to use patent-free
 formats. In GStreamer we try to make sure Ogg and Dirac support
 everything that is possible to do with the non-free formats. So at the
 end of the day we feel that by moving people toward Linux and now
 Solaris, and to using an open source framework like GStreamer which
 has top-notch support for free codecs, we do more good than evil for
 the goal of removing the plight of patented codecs, even if our way of
 achieving that is by offering those non-free codecs for sale.
 [...]
 Non-free media formats are fundamentally at odds with free software,
 not because of source code licensing but because of patents. Ignoring
 that fact can mean taking a serious legal risk. As Dave Neary of Wengo
 so concisely expressed it on his personal blog: People should realise
 that proprietary codecs are just that -- proprietary. And if they cost
 money, that's a great way to realise.
 
 I am in no way associated with Fluendo (except for being a participant
 in the codecs beta testing). I am simply concerned that Ubuntu makes
 it too easy to infringe patents.
 
 As I raised on the mailing list and in a bug report:
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/173161
 users often end up infringing patents that they never even use because
 the codecs are distributed in composite packages.
 
 Regards,
 
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Since when should linux users have to pay for codecs?
Bloody hell. Are we heading down the Windows path?

I would never in my life pay for any codecs? Why? Simply because a user
shouldn't have to.

C'mon, seriously, some common sense required I think.


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Re: [Bug 59695] Re: High frequency of load/unload cycles on some hard disks may shorten lifetime

2007-11-30 Thread Chris Jones
Hi

SirLancelot wrote:
 Is there any simple way to measure disk temperature? Something like command

There is hddtemp, and some systems (e.g. mine) expose the information
through platform-specific ACPI. I have no idea if it's guaranteed to be
a) present, b) correct across all disks though, and I personally very
much agree with Mark Thomas' assessment.

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Re: [Bug 59695] Re: High frequency of load/unload cycles on some hard disks may shorten lifetime

2007-11-30 Thread Chris Jones
Hi

ubuntu_demon wrote:
 * while disk temperature of 59 and 60 degrees don't change the apm.

60 seems to be a fairly common *maximum* operating temperature for
disks. Allowing it to rest at 59/60 seems like a bad idea.

Hitachi quote that (with their drives) for every degree you go above the
maximum temperature the failure rate rises 2-3%.
If your drive gets to 60 and stays there, you are leaving basically no
headroom and it may well rise above the maximum rating until your fix
notices and enables a power saving mode, which may well take some time
to bring the temperature down.
If your drive were rated for a maximum of 55 degrees and we allow it to
run at 60, the failure rate could potentially be 15% higher than normal,
all in the name of fixing something (head unparks) that probably wasn't
a problem in the first place.

FWIW, I forgot to mention in my previous post that the temperature
information is often also present in SMART output.

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[Bug 172568] gtk-window-decorator crash on undecorated window

2007-11-28 Thread Chris Jones
Public bug reported:

Binary package hint: compiz

if I have a window configured to appear without window borders (using
devilspie in this case), pressing Alt-Space to bring up the window menu
causes gtk-window-decorator to segfault.

(gutsy, fully updated)

** Affects: compiz (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 172301] Re: laptop-mode should default to use relatime for ext3 partitions while on battery while keeping the option to use noatime while on battery

2007-11-27 Thread Chris Jones
by on battery do you propose remounting the partitions when I
plug/unplug my AC adapter? That sounds like a fairly bad idea to me and
a laptop will always benefit from having noatime because it probably has
a fairly slow disk.

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[Bug 59695] Re: High frequency of load/unload cycles on some hard disks may shorten lifetime

2007-11-27 Thread Chris Jones
I thoroughly agree with mark thomas - what is being proposed here will
override the defaults set by hardware manufacturers and OEMs. Perhaps it
is helpful for some people, but it's a blanket decision that will change
the behaviour of a lot of systems - behaviour that was chosen by the
people who know the hardware best (ie the people who made and/or
integrated it).

I'm not sure if prompting the user is a wise idea because many people
will not understand what it means, and since we can't predictably scale
back the power management they'll just say ooh that sounds bad and
click to turn the power management off, which may not be a good thing.
We also don't know what increasing too fast means, since different
drives have different levels of robustness. My drive would have prompted
me after about half a second, unless we'd written up a list of every
drive ever (and future drives for at least the next 6 months) and knew
that mine counts with a 40bit packed number or whatever it was.

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Re: [Bug 59695] Re: High frequency of load/unload cycles on some hard disks may shorten lifetime

2007-11-27 Thread Chris Jones
Bart Samwel wrote:
 Whose opinion is that?  I would argue that it is, indeed the operating
 system's place to save the user from themselves.
 ...and especially w.r.t. hardware, I might add! The OS is supposed to be 

You are actually all talking about saving users from their hardware
vendors, not themselves. They didn't set the APM behaviour.

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[Bug 90734] Re: Confusion about location of zaptel devices

2007-11-22 Thread Chris Jones
Given that, at least on an edgy machine, the devices seem to be in
/dev/zap/ now I suspect this is no longer an issue in dapper

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[Bug 164376] Re: libxine-xvdr depends on libxine1 ( 1.1.8), current is 1.1.8-2ubuntu2~gutsy1

2007-11-22 Thread Chris Jones
This is because xine was updated in the gutsy-backports repository (it
is still at 1.1.7 in the main archive). it will need at least a rebuild
of libxine-xvdr, or possibly a new version if the depend  1.1.8 is a
hard requirement

** Changed in: vdr-plugin-xineliboutput (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 59695] Re: High frequency of load/unload cycles on some hard disks may shorten lifetime

2007-11-21 Thread Chris Jones
Brian: Thanks for reminding me that the Old_age values don't always
necessarily start at 100.

I apologise if anyone thinks I am being harsh, but I see a lot of hair
pulling about how drives are going to die in 6 months, with numbers that
are very hard to interpret (something I am clearly guilty of, because
there were some mistakes in my comment).

It's also interesting to see VALUEs of 001 in ubuntu_demon's comment - I
find it extremely hard to believe that this is actually true. It's yet
more evidence of vendor specific SMART behaviour, which puts even more
doubt on the available data, especially since those posts don't appear
to be shortly followed by VALUEs of 000 with a FAILING_NOW tag.

I suggest that anyone who is genuinely worried about their disk confirm
the output of smartctl by running a tool from their hard disk's vendor
(the smartmontools FAQ lists
http://www.benchmarkhq.ru/english.html?/be_hdd2.html as a good source
thereof, and has information about ways to run them, since they are
mostly MS-DOS tools).

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[Bug 59695] Re: High frequency of load/unload cycles on some hard disks may shorten lifetime

2007-11-20 Thread Chris Jones
This issue has been extensively covered in the press recently and, as
should be blindingly obvious by now, is, by and large, nonsense.

First of all, let me make this absolutely clear - you should pay ZERO
attention to the number reported by smartctl for Load_Cycle_Count. It is
probably not a raw counter showing the number of times your drive heads
have unparked. If you don't believe me, look at this output from my
Thinkpad X40:

193 Load_Cycle_Count0x0032   070   070   000Old_age   Always
-   3037783573354

That number is over 3 *trillion*, which, for a 14 month old laptop is
physically impossible, it would have to be unparking the heads 80,000
times *a second*. Again, this is physically impossible.

What you should be paying attention to are the THRESH, VALUE and WORST
columns. This is an Old_age SMART value, so the VALUE starts at 100 and
counts down to 0. When it crosses THRESH it means your drive
manufacturer believes your drive has reached the end of its probable
lifespan.

So, in my above example, the THRESH, VALUE and WORST columns are 70, 70
and 0 respectively. In this case VALUE and WORST will always be the same
because it's simply counting down over time and in this case, I have
used about 30% of the expected lifespan of my drive, which, at 14 months
and it being a rubbishy 1.8 laptop drive, seems entirely reasonable.

My value will be lower than a stock install would because I've had
laptop_mode enabled for at least a year, so the heads are unparking
quite aggressively.

So, to be absolutely, entirely clear about this, Ubuntu is not killing
my hard disk, no matter what Slashdot and misinformed blog posts claim.

To everyone who has commented on this bug with wild claims about how
much their Load_Cycle_Count value is increasing, go back to smartctl's
output and check the VALUE and THRESH columns and I am entirely
confident you will find that your drive is well within expected
lifespan.

The reason is because the RAW_VALUE column is entirely manufacturer
specific. A few drives will actually report a counter of the number of
times they've unparked the heads, but many/most report something that we
have no idea about the meaning of. It's not a meaningful number. SMART
is not designed to report meaningful numbers like that, it is designed
to provide an indication of health that is interpreted by the firmware
on the drive itself, this is what the VALUE, THRESH and WORST columns
are for. Use them.

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Re: [Bug 37773] Re: [madwifi] Semi-random system lockups in Dapper

2007-11-20 Thread Chris Jones
Hi

Mircea Deaconu wrote:
 making this (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi-
 support/+bug/59695) bug critical too. This is a long standing bug and
 has a very serious impact on laptop type of hardware. It's priority is

This is simply incorrect. I have just commented on the bug to explain
why.

Please do not spam legitimate bugs. There are proper processes for
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Re: [Bug 106129] Re: WPA2 Personal wireless networks don't work without manual configuration

2007-11-16 Thread Chris Jones
Hi

Stephen Hemminger wrote:
 Problem still exists when attempting to use WPA2 with ipw2200 on Gusty.
 Please fix or forward upstream rather than ignoring.

FWIW, all the WPA networks I've tried have worked fine for me in gutsy
with ipw2200. What does /var/log/syslog say when you attempt to join the
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Skype with video now on linux

2007-11-08 Thread Chris Jones
Hi

Rob Beard wrote:
 Ooh, thats good news.  I've been trying to get my webcam working with  
 Ekiga but for some reason I can't get it to talk to a Windows machine.  
   This will hopefully solve all that. (In a proprietary way, not ideal  
 but if it works I'll use it).

upgrade to gutsy, then apt-get install wengophone. It's not perfect, but
it is GPL, based on open standards, it's in our archive and it works
with webcams.
I've been using it for some time to make daily video calls to my girlfriend.

(they have clients for other platforms too).

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[Bug 160537] impress should disable gnome screensaver in presentation mode

2007-11-06 Thread Chris Jones
Public bug reported:

Binary package hint: openoffice.org

While giving a presentation, impress should poke gnome-screensaver so it
does not activate the screensaver (in the same way that media players
do).

** Affects: openoffice.org (Ubuntu)
 Importance: High
 Status: Confirmed

** Changed in: openoffice.org (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided = High
   Status: New = Confirmed
   Target: None = hardy-alpha-1

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[Bug 133118] Re: very corrupt X after suspend/resume

2007-11-06 Thread Chris Jones
Attached is a complete X log that includes some successful
suspend/resumes and ends with a resume that segfaults the X server.

** Attachment added: Xorg.0.log.old
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[Bug 133118] Re: very corrupt X after suspend/resume

2007-11-05 Thread Chris Jones
Is anyone else seeing occasional segfaults of X on resume with this
driver? (the symptom would be that when you resume you get a login
screen rather than a screensaver dialog)

I've lost the log, but the next time it happens I will be sure to grab
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[Bug 158311] Re: nattessz

2007-10-30 Thread Chris Jones
This is almost certainly a bug in virtkey being triggered by your
keyboard layout.  This is fixed in Gutsy or you can use the feisty
packages below.

Add the below to your /etc/apt/sources.list

deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/onboard/ubuntu feisty main
deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/onboard/ubuntu feisty main

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[Bug 137598] Re: Screen brightness resets to default (maximum) on idle with AC plugged in

2007-10-30 Thread Chris Jones
** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #483134
   http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=483134

** Also affects: gnome-power via
   http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=483134
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[Bug 33950] Re: hdaps Y axis inverted

2007-10-26 Thread Chris Jones
I can confirm Stefan's report that this is now entirely non-functional
(thinkpad x40)

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[Bug 136453] Re: [gutsy] resuming from suspend/hibernate broken

2007-10-25 Thread Chris Jones
My laptop (Thinkpad X40) has started crashing X on resume with the error
khul reported, but the resume prepare script has the fix mentioned above
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[Bug 133118] Re: very corrupt X after suspend/resume

2007-10-21 Thread Chris Jones
Peter's latest test package solves this bug for me.

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[Bug 133118] Re: very corrupt X after suspend/resume

2007-10-21 Thread Chris Jones
Setting compiz to invalid since this is an X driver bug

** Changed in: compiz (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 133118] Re: very corrupt X after suspend/resume

2007-10-15 Thread Chris Jones
Bryce: I just tested both of those packages and neither appears to fix
this bug.

For kicks, I also tried the X :1 trick and after killing the second X
server my laptop hung ;)

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[Bug 22930] Re: Newly-sensitive button ignores clicks until cursor re-enters it

2007-10-11 Thread Chris Jones
ChrisC: sebastian already said it's been used in the installer!

in the last 10 days since Colin Watson (a maintainer of the installer)
acknowledged the workaround and said he would investigate, none of the
comments here have been remotely useful, but are spamming a fairly long
list of subscribers. Can we stop that now please?

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[Bug 148571] Re: Changing hostname breaks X session

2007-10-08 Thread Chris Jones
that message is indeed perfectly clear, but it wasn't displayed when we
tested it with the gutsy beta ISOs.

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[Bug 148571] Re: Changing hostname breaks X session

2007-10-08 Thread Chris Jones
hmm, I've just tested this locally and it displayed that message as you said. 
I'm sure the dialog we saw with the beta ISO was different and just asked if 
you wanted to change it right now.
Either way it seems good now, thanks.

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[Bug 133118] Re: very corrupt X after suspend/resume

2007-10-06 Thread Chris Jones
I was just browsing the Xorg list archives looking for the thread bryce
mentioned when I noticed this:

http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/2007-October/028963.html

Could it be because we're mixing and matching different bits of X
releases?

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[Bug 133118] Re: very corrupt X after suspend/resume

2007-10-05 Thread Chris Jones
Thanks very much Bryce.

Interestingly, GL textures are no longer corrupted on resume, but
rendering is falling back to indirect so is rather slow.

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[Bug 133118] Re: very corrupt X after suspend/resume

2007-10-05 Thread Chris Jones
err, obviously I forgot to attach any kind of errors:

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[Bug 133118] Re: very corrupt X after suspend/resume

2007-10-05 Thread Chris Jones
I powered down, booted up, suspended, resumed, ran a GL app or two.
Attached is the Xorg log.

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[Bug 133118] Re: very corrupt X after suspend/resume

2007-10-05 Thread Chris Jones
Personally, I suspend/resume multiple times a day, so either version of the 
driver is going to leave me with largely unusable 3D. I guess it would be more 
useful to have the old driver and know that I can at least restart the server 
if I want to run google earth or whatever.
If we can't fix it then this chipset should definitely be blacklisted for 
compiz.

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[Bug 148929] Re: Gutsy beta renumbers ethernet interfaces after boot

2007-10-04 Thread Chris Jones
I have just done a test install on an IBM xSeries 345 server with two
Intel PRO/1000 cards and see exactly the same thing.

** Changed in: udev (Ubuntu)
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Phishing and linux

2007-10-03 Thread Chris Jones
Hi

Mac wrote:
 I hope we can just assume this is FUD.  Does anyone more familiar with 
 server security have anything consoling thoughts?

My guess would be: Lots more Linux servers than Windows ones, probably
lots that don't have system security patches applied[0] and lots and
lots and lots and lots and lots of PHP code running on them which is
even less likely to be getting security love :/

[0] MS are getting very good at annoying people into installing updates.
Most Linux server installs don't even try to make you install updates.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Phishing and linux

2007-10-03 Thread Chris Jones
Hi

Chris Rowson wrote:
 Linux is free.

modulo hardware costs, of course.

 Wouldn't that create some difference in how well the servers are
 looked after.

It's entirely plausible, yes :/

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Preparing my Server for Gutsy - help

2007-10-03 Thread Chris Jones
Hi

Mark Allison wrote:
 How reliable are the backports? Would you rely on backports in a
 production environment? This is only for my home LAN, but I have lots

I'm not sure who maintains the feisty-backports, but I don't think they
get the same level of security love as packages in feisty.
Given that adding the repository will encourage apt and friends to
upgrade everything in -backports, I would either cherry pick the debs I
want, or configure apt to treat -backports as lower priority than the
main archives.

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[Bug 148568] [gutsy] ATI ES1000 doesn't work

2007-10-03 Thread Chris Jones
Public bug reported:

Binary package hint: xserver-xorg-video-ati

Not sure if this is a duplicate of 86072 or not, but booting the gutsy
beta LiveCD on an HP DL385 (G2) in normal graphics mode does not work.
It displays the throbber while it boots, then starts switching to X and
doesn't seem to finish.

** Affects: xserver-xorg-video-ati (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
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[Bug 148568] Re: [gutsy] ATI ES1000 doesn't work

2007-10-03 Thread Chris Jones
lspci output

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[Bug 148568] Re: [gutsy] ATI ES1000 doesn't work

2007-10-03 Thread Chris Jones
lspci -vvnn output

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[Bug 148571] Changing hostname breaks X session

2007-10-03 Thread Chris Jones
Public bug reported:

Binary package hint: gnome-system-tools

This is mentioned in #103960, but is not the primary focus of that bug.

Changing the hostname via the gnome network admin tool asks the user if
they want to change the hostname immediately. If they do so, their X
session will be fairly broken because their X cookie is now invalid.

It should probably prompt the user to reboot to change the hostname, or
at the very least warn them that they should restart really very soon.

** Affects: gnome-system-tools (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 148571] Re: Changing hostname breaks X session

2007-10-03 Thread Chris Jones
(this was noticed while testing the gutsy beta LiveCD)

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[Bug 148119] Re: release link broken

2007-10-02 Thread Chris Jones
Both the 7.10 and gutsy links show me a listing of gutsy beta images. I
don't think this bug is valid.

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Re: recovery CD?

2007-10-01 Thread Chris Jones
I too have wanted to get a hold of such a disc since I've been using
Ubuntu as I think it would be quite handy for many purposes. And in some
cases, save a lot of time on recovering a system.

Chris Jones




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 Hi,
 
 I made a fresh install on a laptop I am going to give to a dummy (on 
 computer) person.
 I would like to know if there is some way to create a recovery CD of the 
 installation.
 I installed some restricted drivers and that person would be unable to 
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 I would like a DVD or CD that the person will boot on and suggest a 
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[Bug 133118] Re: very corrupt X after suspend/resume

2007-09-29 Thread Chris Jones
Bryce, I did try with Modules first and Xorg refused to accept my
config file. I changed it to Module per xorg.conf's manpage.

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[Bug 141362] Re: Rotating photos progress dialog's Stop button has a misleading name

2007-09-28 Thread Chris Jones
Obviously this isn't the most crucial bug in the world, but could we
slip the upstream patch in before release?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] EU-topia? No Windows in EU ? Should we contribute?

2007-09-27 Thread Chris Jones
Hi

Eddie Armstrong wrote:
 Ah, but with no OS on a PC maybe apple have an opportunity to compete 
 and thus develop for all PCs - it might well be profitable,

Apple has no interest in getting OS X on ordinary PCs. If they do that
they stop being a hardware company and live and die by sales of OS X.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] EU-topia? No Windows in EU ? Should we contribute?

2007-09-27 Thread Chris Jones
Hi

Sakjur wrote:
 I say:
 iPod...
 They live by the iPod...

Their music division does produce more revenue than their computing
division, but Mac sales are still doing better every quarter.

The Mac as a platform would be ruined by making OS X available for all
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] EU-topia? No Windows in EU ? Should we contribute?

2007-09-27 Thread Chris Jones
Hi

Kris Douglas wrote:
 No windows in the European union?

No it's just a very misguided suggestion that no PC should ship with an
OS pre-installed.
It just means more pain for users and no gain for anyone else.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] EU-topia? No Windows in EU ? Should we contribute?

2007-09-27 Thread Chris Jones
Hi

Kris Douglas wrote:
 Agreed, but if you were in a situation where you needed a system that could
 connect to a domain and run an application that was associated with keeping
 customers money safe, would you spend ages installing an operating system,

That is a bit trickier. Personally I would always reinstall a server by
hand. For a desktop machine though, OEM pre-installs are clearly the way
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