Re: [Ubuntu-be] CPR on the website
Hi list, May I suggest github pages? Static generation, multiple users, no maintenance. Kind regards, Mark 2013/3/19 snb1405 bjorn...@msn.com: I'm pretty familiar with Wordpress too, so I can help where needed -- View this message in context: http://ubuntu-be.3354669.n2.nabble.com/CPR-on-the-website-tp7574987p7574996.html Sent from the Ubuntu-be mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be -- Mark Van den Borre Hogestraat 16 3000 Leuven, België +32 486 961726 -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] CPR on the website
On 20-03-13 11:58, martijn cielen wrote: Contrary to what Wouter wants us all to believe [ ;-) ], Drupal really isn't that hard. Au contraire. It's one of the easiest systems (being it an app, a cms or whatever) I've ever used in my 12 years as an ICT professional. I bet anyone in this mailing list can get the basics set up using Drupal in 1 day. The speciallekes will obviously take a little longer, but for anyone with decent php knowledge, this will be equally hard/easy to do in Drupal as in raw php as in any other framework. Maybe I should organise an introductory course to Drupal... M Wow... that's great! We found ourselves a volunteer! :) We've been asking for volunteers to maintain the website half a dozen of times on the mailinglist in the last few years (though admittedly, I guess we dindn't repeat that question the last half year). Nobody stood up and offered his/her help on it. If you want to work on the system in Drupal... by all means. I think we would all be happy if you did. If you want to teach Wouter how to do it... then Wouter has to agree this is okay for him. It's way to easy to say what the ideal path is... and we all agree it would be best to have a Drupal-guru working on the website. But we didn't find him up to present. Now don't go shooting Wouter for sticking out his neck and actually doing *something* (which is better than doing nothing the perfect way) Grtz, Jurgen. -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] CPR on the website
Hey Martijn, I think it would be lovely if you have some time to introduce the members of Wouter's team to Drupal. I'm sure they would be interested. However, overall it should be Wouter's baby. Up to you to convince him staying with Drupal is better than starting from scratch in html5. As for your argument that the Belgian LoCo should preferably stick to Belgian products, I only follow that thought half-heartedly. Such argument is based on pride, and pride is often more counterproductive and costly than what is achieved by it. A bit of pride is commendable, but it should not interfere with the end result. So, to sum up, Martijn, thanks for getting involved, and please do work with Wouter direct about incorporating Drupal into our site. If you feel that strongly about Drupal, I'm sure you won't struggle to convince Wouter and his team to embrace it too. But please don't let pride interfere with the end result: a proper web site that looks and feels good for the average user, that can easily be maintained by any successors in our community. Regards, Jan. On 20 March 2013 12:51, Jurgen Gaeremyn jurgen.gaere...@pandora.be wrote: On 20-03-13 11:58, martijn cielen wrote: Contrary to what Wouter wants us all to believe [ ;-) ], Drupal really isn't that hard. Au contraire. It's one of the easiest systems (being it an app, a cms or whatever) I've ever used in my 12 years as an ICT professional. I bet anyone in this mailing list can get the basics set up using Drupal in 1 day. The speciallekes will obviously take a little longer, but for anyone with decent php knowledge, this will be equally hard/easy to do in Drupal as in raw php as in any other framework. Maybe I should organise an introductory course to Drupal... M Wow... that's great! We found ourselves a volunteer! :) We've been asking for volunteers to maintain the website half a dozen of times on the mailinglist in the last few years (though admittedly, I guess we dindn't repeat that question the last half year). Nobody stood up and offered his/her help on it. If you want to work on the system in Drupal... by all means. I think we would all be happy if you did. If you want to teach Wouter how to do it... then Wouter has to agree this is okay for him. It's way to easy to say what the ideal path is... and we all agree it would be best to have a Drupal-guru working on the website. But we didn't find him up to present. Now don't go shooting Wouter for sticking out his neck and actually doing *something* (which is better than doing nothing the perfect way) Grtz, Jurgen. -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.**comubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/**mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-behttps://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be -- Have you tried Ubuntu Linux yet? Check out http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/why-use-ubuntu and find out why it is a better option than trying to upgrade your hardware to accomodate a newer version of your current system. -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] CPR on the website
I don't agree on the pride part. People who know me, know I'll never use the word Belgian with pride. I'm Flemish and love the Walloon, but I strongly oppose to the monster Belgium. Well, so far with politics, and let's not start a (civil) war ;-) That being made clear, I don't think anything is wrong with a bit of chauvinism. If not even Belgian loco uses Drupal, why should people in other countries use it? (just asking) I agree that doing something is better than doing nothing, and in saying so, I applaude Wouter for sticking out his neck. On the other hand, I know Wouter has a strong feeling Drupal is bad (I read his tweets), and I strongly disagree. Time is a problem for all of us, so I guess starting something from scratch will take longer than updating (and maybe even upgrading) an existing Drupal site, even though because of an already heavily overloaded professional life (who ever said freelancers gain big money?), I'll have too little time left to pick up unpaid work (hey, even my slices of bread and water don't come fro free). I am hower prepared to assist where possible. To avoid further noise on the ML, however, I propose Wouter contacts me to arrange for a 1/2-day introductory course in Drupal. If he still only feels like vomiting whenever he hears Drupal after that, I'll keep my mouth shut ;-) M On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Jan Bongaerts jbongae...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Martijn, I think it would be lovely if you have some time to introduce the members of Wouter's team to Drupal. I'm sure they would be interested. However, overall it should be Wouter's baby. Up to you to convince him staying with Drupal is better than starting from scratch in html5. As for your argument that the Belgian LoCo should preferably stick to Belgian products, I only follow that thought half-heartedly. Such argument is based on pride, and pride is often more counterproductive and costly than what is achieved by it. A bit of pride is commendable, but it should not interfere with the end result. So, to sum up, Martijn, thanks for getting involved, and please do work with Wouter direct about incorporating Drupal into our site. If you feel that strongly about Drupal, I'm sure you won't struggle to convince Wouter and his team to embrace it too. But please don't let pride interfere with the end result: a proper web site that looks and feels good for the average user, that can easily be maintained by any successors in our community. Regards, Jan. On 20 March 2013 12:51, Jurgen Gaeremyn jurgen.gaere...@pandora.be wrote: On 20-03-13 11:58, martijn cielen wrote: Contrary to what Wouter wants us all to believe [ ;-) ], Drupal really isn't that hard. Au contraire. It's one of the easiest systems (being it an app, a cms or whatever) I've ever used in my 12 years as an ICT professional. I bet anyone in this mailing list can get the basics set up using Drupal in 1 day. The speciallekes will obviously take a little longer, but for anyone with decent php knowledge, this will be equally hard/easy to do in Drupal as in raw php as in any other framework. Maybe I should organise an introductory course to Drupal... M Wow... that's great! We found ourselves a volunteer! :) We've been asking for volunteers to maintain the website half a dozen of times on the mailinglist in the last few years (though admittedly, I guess we dindn't repeat that question the last half year). Nobody stood up and offered his/her help on it. If you want to work on the system in Drupal... by all means. I think we would all be happy if you did. If you want to teach Wouter how to do it... then Wouter has to agree this is okay for him. It's way to easy to say what the ideal path is... and we all agree it would be best to have a Drupal-guru working on the website. But we didn't find him up to present. Now don't go shooting Wouter for sticking out his neck and actually doing *something* (which is better than doing nothing the perfect way) Grtz, Jurgen. -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be -- Have you tried Ubuntu Linux yet? Check out http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/why-use-ubuntu and find out why it is a better option than trying to upgrade your hardware to accomodate a newer version of your current system. -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
[Ubuntu-be] CPR on the website
With a fairly big certainty, I can tell that the Ubuntu-be website is dead. Since Mongolito404 left for Canada there hasn't changed everything. Our current website uses Drupal 6. The current version of Drupal is 7 and has changed dramatically. Since I, nor anybody else on this ML, knows anything about either Drupal 6 or 7, I guess we better make a new website. I hope that a new website can be a fresh start for U-be as well because lately it seemed as if we were in hibernate. I'm willing to make a new design, first in png, then code it to html5. Then we need to find a CMS. I see three CMS options: - Wordpress + Dead easy, and I actually can convert a theme to wordpress in 2hours time. - Wordpress doesn't have a decent multilanguage system.. Als multilanguage systems seem fairly hackerish.. - Joomla + Multi language isn't a real issue here, I think Jurgen knows some things about Joomla - I don't know Joomla - Fork + Fork is basically just like folder structure, you can put in whatever you want. - I've never actually build a site on it. Thoughts? Grts Wouter -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] CPR on the website
I have no thoughts about the technical side, but I do have a thought about a new site! My thought is that anyone that feels he or she can work on that project should talk to you. I hope you can coordinate a few people to make some pages together with you. And if you have the time to work on this, I already say thanks a million in advance, on behalf of the whole team. Our web site is vital to our operation, and without it we can't do much. Cheers, Jan. On 19 March 2013 11:38, Wouter Vandenneucker wouterv...@gmail.com wrote: With a fairly big certainty, I can tell that the Ubuntu-be website is dead. Since Mongolito404 left for Canada there hasn't changed everything. Our current website uses Drupal 6. The current version of Drupal is 7 and has changed dramatically. Since I, nor anybody else on this ML, knows anything about either Drupal 6 or 7, I guess we better make a new website. I hope that a new website can be a fresh start for U-be as well because lately it seemed as if we were in hibernate. I'm willing to make a new design, first in png, then code it to html5. Then we need to find a CMS. I see three CMS options: - Wordpress + Dead easy, and I actually can convert a theme to wordpress in 2hours time. - Wordpress doesn't have a decent multilanguage system.. Als multilanguage systems seem fairly hackerish.. - Joomla + Multi language isn't a real issue here, I think Jurgen knows some things about Joomla - I don't know Joomla - Fork + Fork is basically just like folder structure, you can put in whatever you want. - I've never actually build a site on it. Thoughts? Grts Wouter -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be -- Have you tried Ubuntu Linux yet? Check out http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/why-use-ubuntu and find out why it is a better option than trying to upgrade your hardware to accomodate a newer version of your current system. -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] CPR on the website
Things I need: - Content editors for all languages (I want to do a part of Dutch and English, but I'm bad a writing) - Somebody who thinks about page structure - Somebody with skills in php and the CMS of our choise to rebuild the support point system. 2013/3/19 Jan Bongaerts jbongae...@gmail.com I have no thoughts about the technical side, but I do have a thought about a new site! My thought is that anyone that feels he or she can work on that project should talk to you. I hope you can coordinate a few people to make some pages together with you. And if you have the time to work on this, I already say thanks a million in advance, on behalf of the whole team. Our web site is vital to our operation, and without it we can't do much. Cheers, Jan. On 19 March 2013 11:38, Wouter Vandenneucker wouterv...@gmail.com wrote: With a fairly big certainty, I can tell that the Ubuntu-be website is dead. Since Mongolito404 left for Canada there hasn't changed everything. Our current website uses Drupal 6. The current version of Drupal is 7 and has changed dramatically. Since I, nor anybody else on this ML, knows anything about either Drupal 6 or 7, I guess we better make a new website. I hope that a new website can be a fresh start for U-be as well because lately it seemed as if we were in hibernate. I'm willing to make a new design, first in png, then code it to html5. Then we need to find a CMS. I see three CMS options: - Wordpress + Dead easy, and I actually can convert a theme to wordpress in 2hours time. - Wordpress doesn't have a decent multilanguage system.. Als multilanguage systems seem fairly hackerish.. - Joomla + Multi language isn't a real issue here, I think Jurgen knows some things about Joomla - I don't know Joomla - Fork + Fork is basically just like folder structure, you can put in whatever you want. - I've never actually build a site on it. Thoughts? Grts Wouter -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be -- Have you tried Ubuntu Linux yet? Check out http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/why-use-ubuntu and find out why it is a better option than trying to upgrade your hardware to accomodate a newer version of your current system. -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] CPR on the website
If you're looking for a content editor, dutch/english, i'm game. If that's ok with you guys. How my writing will be is for my peers to judge. Let me know, ok? Op 19 mrt. 2013 11:48 schreef Wouter Vandenneucker wouterv...@gmail.com het volgende: Things I need: - Content editors for all languages (I want to do a part of Dutch and English, but I'm bad a writing) - Somebody who thinks about page structure - Somebody with skills in php and the CMS of our choise to rebuild the support point system. 2013/3/19 Jan Bongaerts jbongae...@gmail.com I have no thoughts about the technical side, but I do have a thought about a new site! My thought is that anyone that feels he or she can work on that project should talk to you. I hope you can coordinate a few people to make some pages together with you. And if you have the time to work on this, I already say thanks a million in advance, on behalf of the whole team. Our web site is vital to our operation, and without it we can't do much. Cheers, Jan. On 19 March 2013 11:38, Wouter Vandenneucker wouterv...@gmail.comwrote: With a fairly big certainty, I can tell that the Ubuntu-be website is dead. Since Mongolito404 left for Canada there hasn't changed everything. Our current website uses Drupal 6. The current version of Drupal is 7 and has changed dramatically. Since I, nor anybody else on this ML, knows anything about either Drupal 6 or 7, I guess we better make a new website. I hope that a new website can be a fresh start for U-be as well because lately it seemed as if we were in hibernate. I'm willing to make a new design, first in png, then code it to html5. Then we need to find a CMS. I see three CMS options: - Wordpress + Dead easy, and I actually can convert a theme to wordpress in 2hours time. - Wordpress doesn't have a decent multilanguage system.. Als multilanguage systems seem fairly hackerish.. - Joomla + Multi language isn't a real issue here, I think Jurgen knows some things about Joomla - I don't know Joomla - Fork + Fork is basically just like folder structure, you can put in whatever you want. - I've never actually build a site on it. Thoughts? Grts Wouter -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be -- Have you tried Ubuntu Linux yet? Check out http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/why-use-ubuntu and find out why it is a better option than trying to upgrade your hardware to accomodate a newer version of your current system. -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] CPR on the website
Good idea to set up a new website. I tried to do the update but i still havnt got ftp access to the,servers. Changing cms is good if you want to start over annd id suggest wordpress because its easy to maintain. Also i propose my help on maintaining it the site. / -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.-- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] CPR on the website
I give you all the task to ping me about this after 25th of march.. :p I've got a deadline for another project. I'll make a design for the new site then. :) Grts Wouter 2013/3/19 Geekalomaniac geekaloman...@gmail.com Good idea to set up a new website. I tried to do the update but i still havnt got ftp access to the,servers. Changing cms is good if you want to start over annd id suggest wordpress because its easy to maintain. Also i propose my help on maintaining it the site. / -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] CPR on the website
Very well. You will be pinged. Op 19 mrt. 2013 16:46 schreef Wouter Vandenneucker wouterv...@gmail.com het volgende: I give you all the task to ping me about this after 25th of march.. :p I've got a deadline for another project. I'll make a design for the new site then. :) Grts Wouter 2013/3/19 Geekalomaniac geekaloman...@gmail.com Good idea to set up a new website. I tried to do the update but i still havnt got ftp access to the,servers. Changing cms is good if you want to start over annd id suggest wordpress because its easy to maintain. Also i propose my help on maintaining it the site. / -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] CPR on the website
Let's hope I return more than 64 bytes of date.. ;) 2013/3/19 tom verlinden tom.verlin...@gmail.com Very well. You will be pinged. Op 19 mrt. 2013 16:46 schreef Wouter Vandenneucker wouterv...@gmail.com het volgende: I give you all the task to ping me about this after 25th of march.. :p I've got a deadline for another project. I'll make a design for the new site then. :) Grts Wouter 2013/3/19 Geekalomaniac geekaloman...@gmail.com Good idea to set up a new website. I tried to do the update but i still havnt got ftp access to the,servers. Changing cms is good if you want to start over annd id suggest wordpress because its easy to maintain. Also i propose my help on maintaining it the site. / -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] CPR on the website
I'm pretty familiar with Wordpress too, so I can help where needed -- View this message in context: http://ubuntu-be.3354669.n2.nabble.com/CPR-on-the-website-tp7574987p7574996.html Sent from the Ubuntu-be mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
