Re: [Ubuntu-be] where to find this in Belgium ? Asus netbook (EEE 1225C) with Ubuntu 12.04

2012-09-13 Thread Ward De Ridder 
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I think the license is more expensive but:

All those trail versions that are installed (anti-virus, ...), most of
the time the first things I throw away if I have to make a windows
computer ready to use for someone. They pay the manifacturers to get
their software onto that computer, that reduces the cost of the OS.

Ward

Op 13-09-12 15:41, Y P schreef:
> IMHO they lie: there isn't any MS license for *only* €7 at all! Why
> should MS lose so much money per unit while they ask much much more
> to end users for a single Win license ? !
> 
> Y P
> 
> 
> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 10:38:44PM +0200, martijn cielen wrote:
>> Obviously the selling price doesn't say a thing about the price
>> Asus pays to MS. I tried getting my money back for an EEE 900,
>> and they literally told me "we pay MS € 7 for Windows, so that's
>> what we can refund". Truth or lie, that remains unknown
>> ofcourse. IMHO they lie: there isn't any MS license for *only* €7
>> at all! Why should
MS lose so much money per unit while they ask much much more to end users
for a single Win license ? !
>> Martijn
>> 
>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 8:39 PM, Y P 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Martijn,
>>> 
>>> I'm not sure you're right, but things can change: a few years
>>> ago I saw the EEE 900 or 901 @ MediaM. for €390 (Win) while
>>> the same device was available with Xandros for €299; so this is
>>> (/was) more than only €7. The problem with the 1225C is that it
>>> doesn't seem to be available anyway, not with Win nor with
>>> Ubuntu.
>>> 
>>> Y P
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Sep 07, 2012 at 12:53:18AM +0200, martijn cielen
>>> wrote:
 Forget the WIndows-tax for EEE-pc's. If you want a refund
 you'll get € 7. Been there, haven't done it. Manufacturers
 pay almost nothing for netbook-licenses, so just pay the 7 
 Euro and keep the license for when you sell the toy.
 
 On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 12:17 AM, Y P
 
>>> wrote:
 
> I have no any plans to litigate with a local reseller or
> any media.market-alike mega / giga / hyper store! Just
> want to buy an Ubuntu-ready or a system-free netbook. Don't
> want anyway to pay for a Win 7 that I have to remove!
> 
> Y P
> 
> On Thu, Sep 06, 2012 at 07:11:16AM -0700, Willem Hulscher
> wrote:
>> Well, in France there was a lawsuit were somebody has won
>> to get his
> money back from a windows computer. The case was that it is
> forbidden
>>> to do
> tying sales. He did not want to have windows, but there
> were not other computers (only Mac ofcourse, but he did not
> want that either). He
>>> bought
> the machine, with windows. He complaints with the company
> that he
>>> would not
> have the licence of windows. He made it a case. First they
> judge that
>>> you
> are not obliged to buy a computer with windows. But that in
> Cassation
>>> they
> give him right. It is tying. Than he could have 100 euro
> back for the windows. So I think that because of that
> jurisprudence they started to
>>> sale
> Linux on computers. Or maybe even with only open dos. In
> Germany they
>>> sell
> more and computers with open dos.
>> 
>> Willem
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  From: Y P
>>  To: Ubuntu-BE MailingList
>>  Sent: Wednesday, September
>> 5, 2012 11:04 PM Subject: [Ubuntu-be] where to find this
>> in Belgium ? Asus netbook
>>> (EEE
> 1225C) with Ubuntu 12.04
>> 
>> Hello Dear Ubunteros!
>> 
>> some friend of mine (maybe me too) is looking after the
>> Asus EEE
>>> 1225C,
>> since that machine will come with Ubuntu 12.04 + for a
>> nice price!
>> 
>> It seems to be available in France (Boulanger, Auchan,
>> RueDuCommerce, Izideal) but I'm not able to find it
>> -until now- in Belgium:
>> 
>> maybe some of you does, and knows more about this
>> ready-to-go new/powerfull/quite cheap Ubuntu netbook ?
>> 
>> I first read some info at Forum.Ubuntu-NL.org:
>> 
> 
>>> http://forum.ubuntu-nl.org/algemeen-42/asus-lanceert-nieuw-netbookje-met-ubuntu-12-04/25/
>>
>>
>>> 
when found specifications here:
>> http://www.asus.com/Eee/Eee_PC/Eee_PC_1225C/
>> 
>> ...but in some countries it seems to have already been
>> released in
>>> July:
>> ASUS Quietly Launch New Ubuntu 12.04 Netbook | OMG!
>> Ubuntu!
>> 
> 
>>> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/06/asus-quietly-launch-new-ubuntu-netbook
>>
>>
>>> 
What about Belgium ?
>> 
>> Currently checked stores with no avail-info: Media-markt,
>> Carref0ur, Ph0t0hal, Pix-mania, Gobin-Electronix
>>> (@Ostend);
>> have also tried 333 x to call FNAC BE but their telnr. is
>> fake and definitely busy!!!
>> 
>> Any useful tips welcomed! We're probably 2 persons
>> interested in this EEE if available in
>>> Belgium.

Re: [Ubuntu-be] where to find this in Belgium ? Asus netbook (EEE 1225C) with Ubuntu 12.04

2012-09-13 Thread Y P 
IMHO they lie: there isn't any MS license for *only* €7 at all! Why should
MS lose so much money per unit while they ask much much more to end users
for a single Win license ? ! 

Y P 


On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 10:38:44PM +0200, martijn cielen wrote:
> Obviously the selling price doesn't say a thing about the price Asus pays
> to MS.
> I tried getting my money back for an EEE 900, and they literally told me
> "we pay MS € 7 for Windows, so that's what we can refund".
> Truth or lie, that remains unknown ofcourse.
> 
> Martijn
> 
> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 8:39 PM, Y P  wrote:
> 
> > Hi Martijn,
> >
> > I'm not sure you're right, but things can change: a few years ago I saw the
> > EEE 900 or 901 @ MediaM. for €390 (Win) while the same device was
> > available with Xandros for €299;
> > so this is (/was) more than only €7.
> > The problem with the 1225C is that it doesn't seem to be available
> > anyway, not with Win nor with Ubuntu.
> >
> > Y P
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 07, 2012 at 12:53:18AM +0200, martijn cielen wrote:
> > > Forget the WIndows-tax for EEE-pc's. If you want a refund you'll get € 7.
> > > Been there, haven't done it.
> > > Manufacturers pay almost nothing for netbook-licenses, so just pay the 7
> > > Euro and keep the license for when you sell the toy.
> > >
> > > On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 12:17 AM, Y P 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have no any plans to litigate with a local reseller or any
> > > > media.market-alike mega / giga / hyper store!
> > > > Just want to buy an Ubuntu-ready or a system-free netbook. Don't want
> > > > anyway
> > > > to pay for a Win 7 that I have to remove!
> > > >
> > > > Y P
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Sep 06, 2012 at 07:11:16AM -0700, Willem Hulscher wrote:
> > > > > Well, in France there was a lawsuit were somebody has won to get his
> > > > money back from a windows computer. The case was that it is forbidden
> > to do
> > > > tying sales. He did not want to have windows, but there were not other
> > > > computers (only Mac ofcourse, but he did not want that either). He
> > bought
> > > > the machine, with windows. He complaints with the company that he
> > would not
> > > > have the licence of windows. He made it a case. First they judge that
> > you
> > > > are not obliged to buy a computer with windows. But that in Cassation
> > they
> > > > give him right. It is tying. Than he could have 100 euro back for the
> > > > windows. So I think that because of that jurisprudence they started to
> > sale
> > > > Linux on computers. Or maybe even with only open dos. In Germany they
> > sell
> > > > more and computers with open dos.
> > > > >
> > > > > Willem
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > >  From: Y P 
> > > > > To: Ubuntu-BE MailingList 
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2012 11:04 PM
> > > > > Subject: [Ubuntu-be] where to find this in Belgium ? Asus netbook
> > (EEE
> > > > 1225C) with Ubuntu 12.04
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello Dear Ubunteros!
> > > > >
> > > > > some friend of mine (maybe me too) is looking after the Asus EEE
> > 1225C,
> > > > > since that machine will come with Ubuntu 12.04 + for a nice price!
> > > > >
> > > > > It seems to be available in France (Boulanger, Auchan, RueDuCommerce,
> > > > > Izideal) but I'm not able to find it -until now- in Belgium:
> > > > >
> > > > > maybe some of you does, and knows more about this ready-to-go
> > > > > new/powerfull/quite cheap Ubuntu netbook ?
> > > > >
> > > > > I first read some info at Forum.Ubuntu-NL.org:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > http://forum.ubuntu-nl.org/algemeen-42/asus-lanceert-nieuw-netbookje-met-ubuntu-12-04/25/
> > > > >
> > > > > when found specifications here:
> > > > > http://www.asus.com/Eee/Eee_PC/Eee_PC_1225C/
> > > > >
> > > > > ...but in some countries it seems to have already been released in
> > July:
> > > > > ASUS Quietly Launch New Ubuntu 12.04 Netbook | OMG! Ubuntu!
> > > > >
> > > >
> > http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/06/asus-quietly-launch-new-ubuntu-netbook
> > > > >
> > > > > What about Belgium ?
> > > > >
> > > > > Currently checked stores with no avail-info:
> > > > > Media-markt, Carref0ur, Ph0t0hal, Pix-mania, Gobin-Electronix
> > (@Ostend);
> > > > > have also tried 333 x to call FNAC BE but their telnr. is fake and
> > > > > definitely busy!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Any useful tips welcomed!
> > > > > We're probably 2 persons interested in this EEE if available in
> > Belgium.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanx !
> > > > >
> > > > > GreetinX,
> > > > >
> > > > > Y)ellow P)enguin
> > > > >
> > > > >
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Re: [Ubuntu-be] where to find this in Belgium ? Asus netbook (EEE 1225C) with Ubuntu 12.04

2012-09-12 Thread martijn cielen 
Obviously the selling price doesn't say a thing about the price Asus pays
to MS.
I tried getting my money back for an EEE 900, and they literally told me
"we pay MS € 7 for Windows, so that's what we can refund".
Truth or lie, that remains unknown ofcourse.

Martijn

On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 8:39 PM, Y P  wrote:

> Hi Martijn,
>
> I'm not sure you're right, but things can change: a few years ago I saw the
> EEE 900 or 901 @ MediaM. for €390 (Win) while the same device was
> available with Xandros for €299;
> so this is (/was) more than only €7.
> The problem with the 1225C is that it doesn't seem to be available
> anyway, not with Win nor with Ubuntu.
>
> Y P
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 07, 2012 at 12:53:18AM +0200, martijn cielen wrote:
> > Forget the WIndows-tax for EEE-pc's. If you want a refund you'll get € 7.
> > Been there, haven't done it.
> > Manufacturers pay almost nothing for netbook-licenses, so just pay the 7
> > Euro and keep the license for when you sell the toy.
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 12:17 AM, Y P 
> wrote:
> >
> > > I have no any plans to litigate with a local reseller or any
> > > media.market-alike mega / giga / hyper store!
> > > Just want to buy an Ubuntu-ready or a system-free netbook. Don't want
> > > anyway
> > > to pay for a Win 7 that I have to remove!
> > >
> > > Y P
> > >
> > > On Thu, Sep 06, 2012 at 07:11:16AM -0700, Willem Hulscher wrote:
> > > > Well, in France there was a lawsuit were somebody has won to get his
> > > money back from a windows computer. The case was that it is forbidden
> to do
> > > tying sales. He did not want to have windows, but there were not other
> > > computers (only Mac ofcourse, but he did not want that either). He
> bought
> > > the machine, with windows. He complaints with the company that he
> would not
> > > have the licence of windows. He made it a case. First they judge that
> you
> > > are not obliged to buy a computer with windows. But that in Cassation
> they
> > > give him right. It is tying. Than he could have 100 euro back for the
> > > windows. So I think that because of that jurisprudence they started to
> sale
> > > Linux on computers. Or maybe even with only open dos. In Germany they
> sell
> > > more and computers with open dos.
> > > >
> > > > Willem
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > >  From: Y P 
> > > > To: Ubuntu-BE MailingList 
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2012 11:04 PM
> > > > Subject: [Ubuntu-be] where to find this in Belgium ? Asus netbook
> (EEE
> > > 1225C) with Ubuntu 12.04
> > > >
> > > > Hello Dear Ubunteros!
> > > >
> > > > some friend of mine (maybe me too) is looking after the Asus EEE
> 1225C,
> > > > since that machine will come with Ubuntu 12.04 + for a nice price!
> > > >
> > > > It seems to be available in France (Boulanger, Auchan, RueDuCommerce,
> > > > Izideal) but I'm not able to find it -until now- in Belgium:
> > > >
> > > > maybe some of you does, and knows more about this ready-to-go
> > > > new/powerfull/quite cheap Ubuntu netbook ?
> > > >
> > > > I first read some info at Forum.Ubuntu-NL.org:
> > > >
> > >
> http://forum.ubuntu-nl.org/algemeen-42/asus-lanceert-nieuw-netbookje-met-ubuntu-12-04/25/
> > > >
> > > > when found specifications here:
> > > > http://www.asus.com/Eee/Eee_PC/Eee_PC_1225C/
> > > >
> > > > ...but in some countries it seems to have already been released in
> July:
> > > > ASUS Quietly Launch New Ubuntu 12.04 Netbook | OMG! Ubuntu!
> > > >
> > >
> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/06/asus-quietly-launch-new-ubuntu-netbook
> > > >
> > > > What about Belgium ?
> > > >
> > > > Currently checked stores with no avail-info:
> > > > Media-markt, Carref0ur, Ph0t0hal, Pix-mania, Gobin-Electronix
> (@Ostend);
> > > > have also tried 333 x to call FNAC BE but their telnr. is fake and
> > > > definitely busy!!!
> > > >
> > > > Any useful tips welcomed!
> > > > We're probably 2 persons interested in this EEE if available in
> Belgium.
> > > >
> > > > Thanx !
> > > >
> > > > GreetinX,
> > > >
> > > > Y)ellow P)enguin
> > > >
> > > >
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Re: [Ubuntu-be] where to find this in Belgium ? Asus netbook (EEE 1225C) with Ubuntu 12.04

2012-09-12 Thread Y P 
Hi Martijn,

I'm not sure you're right, but things can change: a few years ago I saw the
EEE 900 or 901 @ MediaM. for €390 (Win) while the same device was
available with Xandros for €299;
so this is (/was) more than only €7.
The problem with the 1225C is that it doesn't seem to be available
anyway, not with Win nor with Ubuntu. 

Y P 


On Fri, Sep 07, 2012 at 12:53:18AM +0200, martijn cielen wrote:
> Forget the WIndows-tax for EEE-pc's. If you want a refund you'll get € 7.
> Been there, haven't done it.
> Manufacturers pay almost nothing for netbook-licenses, so just pay the 7
> Euro and keep the license for when you sell the toy.
> 
> On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 12:17 AM, Y P  wrote:
> 
> > I have no any plans to litigate with a local reseller or any
> > media.market-alike mega / giga / hyper store!
> > Just want to buy an Ubuntu-ready or a system-free netbook. Don't want
> > anyway
> > to pay for a Win 7 that I have to remove!
> >
> > Y P
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 06, 2012 at 07:11:16AM -0700, Willem Hulscher wrote:
> > > Well, in France there was a lawsuit were somebody has won to get his
> > money back from a windows computer. The case was that it is forbidden to do
> > tying sales. He did not want to have windows, but there were not other
> > computers (only Mac ofcourse, but he did not want that either). He bought
> > the machine, with windows. He complaints with the company that he would not
> > have the licence of windows. He made it a case. First they judge that you
> > are not obliged to buy a computer with windows. But that in Cassation they
> > give him right. It is tying. Than he could have 100 euro back for the
> > windows. So I think that because of that jurisprudence they started to sale
> > Linux on computers. Or maybe even with only open dos. In Germany they sell
> > more and computers with open dos.
> > >
> > > Willem
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 
> > >  From: Y P 
> > > To: Ubuntu-BE MailingList 
> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2012 11:04 PM
> > > Subject: [Ubuntu-be] where to find this in Belgium ? Asus netbook (EEE
> > 1225C) with Ubuntu 12.04
> > >
> > > Hello Dear Ubunteros!
> > >
> > > some friend of mine (maybe me too) is looking after the Asus EEE 1225C,
> > > since that machine will come with Ubuntu 12.04 + for a nice price!
> > >
> > > It seems to be available in France (Boulanger, Auchan, RueDuCommerce,
> > > Izideal) but I'm not able to find it -until now- in Belgium:
> > >
> > > maybe some of you does, and knows more about this ready-to-go
> > > new/powerfull/quite cheap Ubuntu netbook ?
> > >
> > > I first read some info at Forum.Ubuntu-NL.org:
> > >
> > http://forum.ubuntu-nl.org/algemeen-42/asus-lanceert-nieuw-netbookje-met-ubuntu-12-04/25/
> > >
> > > when found specifications here:
> > > http://www.asus.com/Eee/Eee_PC/Eee_PC_1225C/
> > >
> > > ...but in some countries it seems to have already been released in July:
> > > ASUS Quietly Launch New Ubuntu 12.04 Netbook | OMG! Ubuntu!
> > >
> > http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/06/asus-quietly-launch-new-ubuntu-netbook
> > >
> > > What about Belgium ?
> > >
> > > Currently checked stores with no avail-info:
> > > Media-markt, Carref0ur, Ph0t0hal, Pix-mania, Gobin-Electronix (@Ostend);
> > > have also tried 333 x to call FNAC BE but their telnr. is fake and
> > > definitely busy!!!
> > >
> > > Any useful tips welcomed!
> > > We're probably 2 persons interested in this EEE if available in Belgium.
> > >
> > > Thanx !
> > >
> > > GreetinX,
> > >
> > > Y)ellow P)enguin
> > >
> > >
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Re: [Ubuntu-be] where to find this in Belgium ? Asus netbook (EEE 1225C) with Ubuntu 12.04

2012-09-06 Thread martijn cielen 
Forget the WIndows-tax for EEE-pc's. If you want a refund you'll get € 7.
Been there, haven't done it.
Manufacturers pay almost nothing for netbook-licenses, so just pay the 7
Euro and keep the license for when you sell the toy.

On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 12:17 AM, Y P  wrote:

> I have no any plans to litigate with a local reseller or any
> media.market-alike mega / giga / hyper store!
> Just want to buy an Ubuntu-ready or a system-free netbook. Don't want
> anyway
> to pay for a Win 7 that I have to remove!
>
> Y P
>
> On Thu, Sep 06, 2012 at 07:11:16AM -0700, Willem Hulscher wrote:
> > Well, in France there was a lawsuit were somebody has won to get his
> money back from a windows computer. The case was that it is forbidden to do
> tying sales. He did not want to have windows, but there were not other
> computers (only Mac ofcourse, but he did not want that either). He bought
> the machine, with windows. He complaints with the company that he would not
> have the licence of windows. He made it a case. First they judge that you
> are not obliged to buy a computer with windows. But that in Cassation they
> give him right. It is tying. Than he could have 100 euro back for the
> windows. So I think that because of that jurisprudence they started to sale
> Linux on computers. Or maybe even with only open dos. In Germany they sell
> more and computers with open dos.
> >
> > Willem
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >  From: Y P 
> > To: Ubuntu-BE MailingList 
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2012 11:04 PM
> > Subject: [Ubuntu-be] where to find this in Belgium ? Asus netbook (EEE
> 1225C) with Ubuntu 12.04
> >
> > Hello Dear Ubunteros!
> >
> > some friend of mine (maybe me too) is looking after the Asus EEE 1225C,
> > since that machine will come with Ubuntu 12.04 + for a nice price!
> >
> > It seems to be available in France (Boulanger, Auchan, RueDuCommerce,
> > Izideal) but I'm not able to find it -until now- in Belgium:
> >
> > maybe some of you does, and knows more about this ready-to-go
> > new/powerfull/quite cheap Ubuntu netbook ?
> >
> > I first read some info at Forum.Ubuntu-NL.org:
> >
> http://forum.ubuntu-nl.org/algemeen-42/asus-lanceert-nieuw-netbookje-met-ubuntu-12-04/25/
> >
> > when found specifications here:
> > http://www.asus.com/Eee/Eee_PC/Eee_PC_1225C/
> >
> > ...but in some countries it seems to have already been released in July:
> > ASUS Quietly Launch New Ubuntu 12.04 Netbook | OMG! Ubuntu!
> >
> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/06/asus-quietly-launch-new-ubuntu-netbook
> >
> > What about Belgium ?
> >
> > Currently checked stores with no avail-info:
> > Media-markt, Carref0ur, Ph0t0hal, Pix-mania, Gobin-Electronix (@Ostend);
> > have also tried 333 x to call FNAC BE but their telnr. is fake and
> > definitely busy!!!
> >
> > Any useful tips welcomed!
> > We're probably 2 persons interested in this EEE if available in Belgium.
> >
> > Thanx !
> >
> > GreetinX,
> >
> > Y)ellow P)enguin
> >
> >
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Re: [Ubuntu-be] where to find this in Belgium ? Asus netbook (EEE 1225C) with Ubuntu 12.04

2012-09-06 Thread Y P 
I have no any plans to litigate with a local reseller or any
media.market-alike mega / giga / hyper store!
Just want to buy an Ubuntu-ready or a system-free netbook. Don't want anyway
to pay for a Win 7 that I have to remove!

Y P 
  
On Thu, Sep 06, 2012 at 07:11:16AM -0700, Willem Hulscher wrote:
> Well, in France there was a lawsuit were somebody has won to get his money 
> back from a windows computer. The case was that it is forbidden to do tying 
> sales. He did not want to have windows, but there were not other computers 
> (only Mac ofcourse, but he did not want that either). He bought the machine, 
> with windows. He complaints with the company that he would not have the 
> licence of windows. He made it a case. First they judge that you are not 
> obliged to buy a computer with windows. But that in Cassation they give him 
> right. It is tying. Than he could have 100 euro back for the windows. So I 
> think that because of that jurisprudence they started to sale Linux on 
> computers. Or maybe even with only open dos. In Germany they sell more and 
> computers with open dos.
> 
> Willem
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: Y P 
> To: Ubuntu-BE MailingList  
> Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2012 11:04 PM
> Subject: [Ubuntu-be] where to find this in Belgium ? Asus netbook (EEE 1225C) 
> with Ubuntu 12.04
>  
> Hello Dear Ubunteros!
> 
> some friend of mine (maybe me too) is looking after the Asus EEE 1225C,
> since that machine will come with Ubuntu 12.04 + for a nice price!
> 
> It seems to be available in France (Boulanger, Auchan, RueDuCommerce,
> Izideal) but I'm not able to find it -until now- in Belgium:
> 
> maybe some of you does, and knows more about this ready-to-go
> new/powerfull/quite cheap Ubuntu netbook ?
> 
> I first read some info at Forum.Ubuntu-NL.org:
> http://forum.ubuntu-nl.org/algemeen-42/asus-lanceert-nieuw-netbookje-met-ubuntu-12-04/25/
> 
> when found specifications here:
> http://www.asus.com/Eee/Eee_PC/Eee_PC_1225C/
> 
> ...but in some countries it seems to have already been released in July:
> ASUS Quietly Launch New Ubuntu 12.04 Netbook | OMG! Ubuntu!
> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/06/asus-quietly-launch-new-ubuntu-netbook
> 
> What about Belgium ?
> 
> Currently checked stores with no avail-info:
> Media-markt, Carref0ur, Ph0t0hal, Pix-mania, Gobin-Electronix (@Ostend);
> have also tried 333 x to call FNAC BE but their telnr. is fake and
> definitely busy!!! 
> 
> Any useful tips welcomed! 
> We're probably 2 persons interested in this EEE if available in Belgium.
> 
> Thanx !
> 
> GreetinX,
> 
> Y)ellow P)enguin 
> 
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Re: [Ubuntu-be] where to find this in Belgium ? Asus netbook (EEE 1225C) with Ubuntu 12.04

2012-09-06 Thread Y P 
I don't understand ! 
IMHO I can't imagine a manufacturer such as Asus making offers of 
new Linux-based EEE devices without being sure they'll going to work fine!
  
Y P 


On Thu, Sep 06, 2012 at 12:17:31PM +0200, Etienne Saliez wrote:
> 
> The first priority is to find hardware configurations, in which all
> components are certainly known to be Linux compatible !
> 
> Etienne Saliez
> 
> 
> On 09/05/2012 11:04 PM, Y P wrote:
> > Hello Dear Ubunteros!
> >
> > some friend of mine (maybe me too) is looking after the Asus EEE 1225C,
> > since that machine will come with Ubuntu 12.04 + for a nice price!
> >
> > It seems to be available in France (Boulanger, Auchan, RueDuCommerce,
> > Izideal) but I'm not able to find it -until now- in Belgium:
> >
> > maybe some of you does, and knows more about this ready-to-go
> > new/powerfull/quite cheap Ubuntu netbook ?
> >
> > I first read some info at Forum.Ubuntu-NL.org:
> > http://forum.ubuntu-nl.org/algemeen-42/asus-lanceert-nieuw-netbookje-met-ubuntu-12-04/25/
> >
> > when found specifications here:
> > http://www.asus.com/Eee/Eee_PC/Eee_PC_1225C/
> >
> > ...but in some countries it seems to have already been released in July:
> > ASUS Quietly Launch New Ubuntu 12.04 Netbook | OMG! Ubuntu!
> > http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/06/asus-quietly-launch-new-ubuntu-netbook
> >
> > What about Belgium ?
> >
> > Currently checked stores with no avail-info:
> > Media-markt, Carref0ur, Ph0t0hal, Pix-mania, Gobin-Electronix (@Ostend);
> > have also tried 333 x to call FNAC BE but their telnr. is fake and
> > definitely busy!!! 
> >
> > Any useful tips welcomed! 
> > We're probably 2 persons interested in this EEE if available in Belgium.
> >
> > Thanx !
> >
> > GreetinX,
> >
> > Y)ellow P)enguin 
> >
> >
> 
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Re: [Ubuntu-be] where to find this in Belgium ? Asus netbook (EEE 1225C) with Ubuntu 12.04

2012-09-06 Thread Wouter Vandenneucker 
Je zou de laptop ook gewoon altijd in't buitenland kunnen bestellen en hem
laten overkomen..

2012/9/6 Willem Hulscher 

> Well, in France there was a lawsuit were somebody has won to get his money
> back from a windows computer. The case was that it is forbidden to do tying
> sales. He did not want to have windows, but there were not other computers
> (only Mac ofcourse, but he did not want that either). He bought the
> machine, with windows. He complaints with the company that he would not
> have the licence of windows. He made it a case. First they judge that you
> are not obliged to buy a computer with windows. But that in Cassation they
> give him right. It is tying. Than he could have 100 euro back for the
> windows. So I think that because of that jurisprudence they started to sale
> Linux on computers. Or maybe even with only open dos. In Germany they sell
> more and computers with open dos.
>
> Willem
>
>   --
> *From:* Y P 
> *To:* Ubuntu-BE MailingList 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 5, 2012 11:04 PM
> *Subject:* [Ubuntu-be] where to find this in Belgium ? Asus netbook (EEE
> 1225C) with Ubuntu 12.04
>
> Hello Dear Ubunteros!
>
> some friend of mine (maybe me too) is looking after the Asus EEE 1225C,
> since that machine will come with Ubuntu 12.04 + for a nice price!
>
> It seems to be available in France (Boulanger, Auchan, RueDuCommerce,
> Izideal) but I'm not able to find it -until now- in Belgium:
>
> maybe some of you does, and knows more about this ready-to-go
> new/powerfull/quite cheap Ubuntu netbook ?
>
> I first read some info at Forum.Ubuntu-NL.org
> :
>
> http://forum.ubuntu-nl.org/algemeen-42/asus-lanceert-nieuw-netbookje-met-ubuntu-12-04/25/
>
> when found specifications here:
> http://www.asus.com/Eee/Eee_PC/Eee_PC_1225C/
>
> ...but in some countries it seems to have already been released in July:
> ASUS Quietly Launch New Ubuntu 12.04 Netbook | OMG! Ubuntu!
> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/06/asus-quietly-launch-new-ubuntu-netbook
>
> What about Belgium ?
>
> Currently checked stores with no avail-info:
> Media-markt, Carref0ur, Ph0t0hal, Pix-mania, Gobin-Electronix (@Ostend);
> have also tried 333 x to call FNAC BE but their telnr. is fake and
> definitely busy!!!
>
> Any useful tips welcomed!
> We're probably 2 persons interested in this EEE if available in Belgium.
>
> Thanx !
>
> GreetinX,
>
> Y)ellow P)enguin
>
>
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Re: [Ubuntu-be] where to find this in Belgium ? Asus netbook (EEE 1225C) with Ubuntu 12.04

2012-09-06 Thread Willem Hulscher 
Well, in France there was a lawsuit were somebody has won to get his money back 
from a windows computer. The case was that it is forbidden to do tying sales. 
He did not want to have windows, but there were not other computers (only Mac 
ofcourse, but he did not want that either). He bought the machine, with 
windows. He complaints with the company that he would not have the licence of 
windows. He made it a case. First they judge that you are not obliged to buy a 
computer with windows. But that in Cassation they give him right. It is tying. 
Than he could have 100 euro back for the windows. So I think that because of 
that jurisprudence they started to sale Linux on computers. Or maybe even with 
only open dos. In Germany they sell more and computers with open dos.

Willem




 From: Y P 
To: Ubuntu-BE MailingList  
Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2012 11:04 PM
Subject: [Ubuntu-be] where to find this in Belgium ? Asus netbook (EEE 1225C) 
with Ubuntu 12.04
 
Hello Dear Ubunteros!

some friend of mine (maybe me too) is looking after the Asus EEE 1225C,
since that machine will come with Ubuntu 12.04 + for a nice price!

It seems to be available in France (Boulanger, Auchan, RueDuCommerce,
Izideal) but I'm not able to find it -until now- in Belgium:

maybe some of you does, and knows more about this ready-to-go
new/powerfull/quite cheap Ubuntu netbook ?

I first read some info at Forum.Ubuntu-NL.org:
http://forum.ubuntu-nl.org/algemeen-42/asus-lanceert-nieuw-netbookje-met-ubuntu-12-04/25/

when found specifications here:
http://www.asus.com/Eee/Eee_PC/Eee_PC_1225C/

...but in some countries it seems to have already been released in July:
ASUS Quietly Launch New Ubuntu 12.04 Netbook | OMG! Ubuntu!
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/06/asus-quietly-launch-new-ubuntu-netbook

What about Belgium ?

Currently checked stores with no avail-info:
Media-markt, Carref0ur, Ph0t0hal, Pix-mania, Gobin-Electronix (@Ostend);
have also tried 333 x to call FNAC BE but their telnr. is fake and
definitely busy!!! 

Any useful tips welcomed! 
We're probably 2 persons interested in this EEE if available in Belgium.

Thanx !

GreetinX,

Y)ellow P)enguin 


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Re: [Ubuntu-be] where to find this in Belgium ? Asus netbook (EEE 1225C) with Ubuntu 12.04

2012-09-06 Thread Etienne Saliez 

The first priority is to find hardware configurations, in which all
components are certainly known to be Linux compatible !

Etienne Saliez


On 09/05/2012 11:04 PM, Y P wrote:
> Hello Dear Ubunteros!
>
> some friend of mine (maybe me too) is looking after the Asus EEE 1225C,
> since that machine will come with Ubuntu 12.04 + for a nice price!
>
> It seems to be available in France (Boulanger, Auchan, RueDuCommerce,
> Izideal) but I'm not able to find it -until now- in Belgium:
>
> maybe some of you does, and knows more about this ready-to-go
> new/powerfull/quite cheap Ubuntu netbook ?
>
> I first read some info at Forum.Ubuntu-NL.org:
> http://forum.ubuntu-nl.org/algemeen-42/asus-lanceert-nieuw-netbookje-met-ubuntu-12-04/25/
>
> when found specifications here:
> http://www.asus.com/Eee/Eee_PC/Eee_PC_1225C/
>
> ...but in some countries it seems to have already been released in July:
> ASUS Quietly Launch New Ubuntu 12.04 Netbook | OMG! Ubuntu!
> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/06/asus-quietly-launch-new-ubuntu-netbook
>
> What about Belgium ?
>
> Currently checked stores with no avail-info:
> Media-markt, Carref0ur, Ph0t0hal, Pix-mania, Gobin-Electronix (@Ostend);
> have also tried 333 x to call FNAC BE but their telnr. is fake and
> definitely busy!!! 
>
> Any useful tips welcomed! 
> We're probably 2 persons interested in this EEE if available in Belgium.
>
> Thanx !
>
> GreetinX,
>
> Y)ellow P)enguin 
>
>


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Re: [Ubuntu-be] where to find this in Belgium ? Asus netbook (EEE 1225C) with Ubuntu 12.04

2012-09-06 Thread Oliver Devoogdt 
als ze niet bij de asus groothandels verkocht worden dan wordt het njet.

Ik denk zelfs dat hij niet bestaat voor België (dus met een Belgische Azerty), 
we zijn nu éénmaal een kleine markt he.

Wel de 1225B gevonden (deze is wel met W7)

 
Ik ga binnenkort mijn eigen webshop opstarten met BTO laptops, uiteraard met 
voorkeur voor Ubuntu.

 
 
 
O.


 
-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van:Y P 
Verzonden:wo 05-09-2012 23:05
Onderwerp:[Ubuntu-be] where to find this in Belgium ? Asus netbook (EEE 1225C) 
withUbuntu 12.04
Aan:Ubuntu-BE MailingList ; 
Hello Dear Ubunteros!

some friend of mine (maybe me too) is looking after the Asus EEE 1225C,
since that machine will come with Ubuntu 12.04 + for a nice price!

It seems to be available in France (Boulanger, Auchan, RueDuCommerce,
Izideal) but I'm not able to find it -until now- in Belgium:

maybe some of you does, and knows more about this ready-to-go
new/powerfull/quite cheap Ubuntu netbook ?

I first read some info at Forum.Ubuntu-NL.org:
http://forum.ubuntu-nl.org/algemeen-42/asus-lanceert-nieuw-netbookje-met-ubuntu-12-04/25/

when found specifications here:
http://www.asus.com/Eee/Eee_PC/Eee_PC_1225C/

...but in some countries it seems to have already been released in July:
ASUS Quietly Launch New Ubuntu 12.04 Netbook | OMG! Ubuntu!
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/06/asus-quietly-launch-new-ubuntu-netbook

What about Belgium ?

Currently checked stores with no avail-info:
Media-markt, Carref0ur, Ph0t0hal, Pix-mania, Gobin-Electronix (@Ostend);
have also tried 333 x to call FNAC BE but their telnr. is fake and
definitely busy!!! 

Any useful tips welcomed! 
We're probably 2 persons interested in this EEE if available in Belgium.

Thanx !

GreetinX,

Y)ellow P)enguin 


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Re: [Ubuntu-be] where to find this in Belgium ? Asus netbook (EEE 1225C) with Ubuntu 12.04

2012-09-05 Thread Wouter Vandenneucker 
Hey YP

I just checked tweakers.net and they also don't list a price. Therefor I
think they might not (yet) be available in NL or BE.
Though I'm not totally sure of it. The Asus website fails to answer that
question as well.

Kind Regards


Wouter Vandenneucker

2012/9/5 Y P 

> Hello Dear Ubunteros!
>
> some friend of mine (maybe me too) is looking after the Asus EEE 1225C,
> since that machine will come with Ubuntu 12.04 + for a nice price!
>
> It seems to be available in France (Boulanger, Auchan, RueDuCommerce,
> Izideal) but I'm not able to find it -until now- in Belgium:
>
> maybe some of you does, and knows more about this ready-to-go
> new/powerfull/quite cheap Ubuntu netbook ?
>
> I first read some info at Forum.Ubuntu-NL.org:
>
> http://forum.ubuntu-nl.org/algemeen-42/asus-lanceert-nieuw-netbookje-met-ubuntu-12-04/25/
>
> when found specifications here:
> http://www.asus.com/Eee/Eee_PC/Eee_PC_1225C/
>
> ...but in some countries it seems to have already been released in July:
> ASUS Quietly Launch New Ubuntu 12.04 Netbook | OMG! Ubuntu!
> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/06/asus-quietly-launch-new-ubuntu-netbook
>
> What about Belgium ?
>
> Currently checked stores with no avail-info:
> Media-markt, Carref0ur, Ph0t0hal, Pix-mania, Gobin-Electronix (@Ostend);
> have also tried 333 x to call FNAC BE but their telnr. is fake and
> definitely busy!!!
>
> Any useful tips welcomed!
> We're probably 2 persons interested in this EEE if available in Belgium.
>
> Thanx !
>
> GreetinX,
>
> Y)ellow P)enguin
>
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