Re: [Bug 1956212] Re: No Diodon applet in the Notification Zone

2022-01-12 Thread Christophe Lohr
Hello,

> So one thing is that you verify that you have https://github.com/mate-
> desktop/mate-indicator-applet installed (there should be a deb package)
> and the applet is actually added to the panel.

In fact, the mate-indicator-applet package is not installed on either of 
my two machines. (this should be?)
The notification zone should be provided by something else. (how to know?)


However, I noticed that on the machine which does not show the diodon 
applet, the package  ayatana-indicator-application  is also present 
(relating to some previous use of xfce4?)
Surprisingly, removing this package fix the issue! (and reinstalling it 
cause the issue again)
This package may somehow divert the notification feature. (?)

So: Bingo! There is a workaround to this issue: remove the 
ayatana-indicator-application package.
It's good to know (but this does not provide too many explanations on 
the why ... )

Many thanks for your help.
Best regards,
Christophe

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Re: [Bug 1956212] Re: No Diodon applet in the Notification Zone

2022-01-11 Thread Christophe Lohr
Le 11/01/2022 à 07:13, Oliver Sauder a écrit :
> I have a feeling the issue is most likely not Diodon related but
> indicator related.
>
> So to confirm this do you have another app which uses the libayatana-
> indicator and see whether that shows up?

I may need some guidance. Which app may I test?
I notice that Skype Zoom Slack does not appears in the indicator zone of 
the "bad" mate session (but it does in the "good" mate session)
This tends to confirm that this is an indicator problem.
Here are applets that works well in the indication zone: NetworkManager 
SoundManager IBus Clock
What else?

> Another idea which came to my mind is that you might have a different
> theme on the two different machines and it cannot find the icon in one
> of them. But most likely this is not the case but wanted to throw in
> there to be sure.

The two machines uses the same theme "Menta" of the mate package...
I tested the others proposed themes, without success.

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Re: [Bug 1956212] Re: No Diodon applet in the Notification Zone

2022-01-10 Thread Christophe Lohr
Le 07/01/2022 à 18:54, Oliver Sauder a écrit :
> I have found this https://github.com/ubuntu-mate/ubuntu-mate-
> settings/blob/master/usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/30_ubuntu-
> mate.gschema.override#L46
>
> Maybe comparing those settings between the two MATE desktop you have
> might reveal where the problem is.


Files are the sames on the two PCs.
( 
/usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/org.mate.panel.applet.notification-area.gschema.xml 
/usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/net.launchpad.Diodon.gschema.xml )

Y also look at values of relating dconf keys... it's the same... :-(
I can't understand. well...

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Re: [Bug 1956212] Re: No Diodon applet in the Notification Zone

2022-01-07 Thread Christophe Lohr
Hello,
   Is there any way to check if the problem could be with the 
Notification Zone rather than Diodon?

Regards
Christophe

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Re: [Bug 1956212] Re: No Diodon applet in the Notification Zone

2022-01-05 Thread Christophe Lohr
Le 05/01/2022 à 12:42, Oliver Sauder a écrit :
> I tried to reproduce this on Debian Stable with Mate and the indicator
> appeared without any problem.

To be honest, I have to admit that I have another PC with the same 
versions of debian mate diodon, and on which the applet works well...
There is something mysterious (magic?). It is very disturbing.

> So could you try to run the following:
> 
> dconf write /net/launchpad/diodon/plugins/active-plugins "['indicator']"
> 
> 
> this ensures that the indicator plugin is enabled in your configuration.
> 

Before trying this, I do:
   $ dconf read /net/launchpad/diodon/plugins/active-plugins
   ['indicator']

hum...

Then:
   $ dconf write /net/launchpad/diodon/plugins/active-plugins 
"['indicator']"

Unfortunately, it still doesn't work
(I restarted the session, to be sure)
;-)

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[Bug 62511] Re: dumps core on SIGQUIT

2012-10-05 Thread Christophe Lohr
Hi,
  Todays Apport (2.0.1) filters core dump on SIGQUIT. I'm not sure it is a good 
choice.
The excuse put forward is that "SIGQUIT is usually deliberately generated by 
users".
And then?

Sure, SIGQUIT is deliberately generated by users. Users may deliberately do 
want a core-dump of a process. They may have a number of very good reasons for 
this.
Whatever the reasons, this behavior (core dump on SIGQUIT) is normalized since 
POSIX.1-1990 (see man signal(7)).
Users can expect Ubuntu to follow the standards. 
If you believe that this standard is inadequate, you can discuss this point in 
IEEE working groups. In the meantime, you should be well aware that Apport 
violates POSIX standrads.

So, can I suggest you reconsider your choice (and let Apport generate
core dump on SIGQUIT)?

Otherwise, may I suggest you to clearly document your choice to prevent
users of this non-standard behavior?

In addition, it would be good to provide a means for users to configure
the behavior of Apport with respect to their process (via an environment
variable, a configuration file in their home directory, etc.)

Best regards
Christophe

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