[Bug 280019] Re: [upstream] Need to support GPOS kerning
GPOS kerning feature is supported since version 3x of Ooo, but works only with WIN OS but not with LINUX (tested on Ubuntu and Linux Mint) and both apps Openoffice and Libreoffice, that concerning fonts using GPOS kerning feature only. Please refer to the #773207 about technical informations. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/280019 Title: [upstream] Need to support GPOS kerning To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openoffice/+bug/280019/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 773207] Re: Problem with Kerning and fonts using OT kerning feature only
** Summary changed: - Problem with Kerning using Minion Pro font + Problem with Kerning and fonts using OT kerning feature only -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/773207 Title: Problem with Kerning and fonts using OT kerning feature only -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 773207] Re: Problem with OT Kerning feature fonts
Good evening Christopher 2011/5/3 Christopher M. Penalver : > Hirwen HARENDAL, unfortunately this issue is untestable for the font > Minion Pro as it is a proprietary font not included natively with > Ubuntu, nor reproducible with the fonts attached in Ubuntu 10.10 or > 11.04 via Word, LibreOffice, or OpenOffice. > > As your claiming this issue occurs with Minion Pro, then this bug will > be focusing solely on Minion Pro and will not be expanded if not > reproducible to limit scope creep and get to the bottom of this issue. ** Sorry, I'm not sure to understand... Is this reproducible ? Yes, by using Houros. This font is built like Minion pro kerning feature, and under SIL OFL license. You can also reproduce this, if my mind is good, with the old Electrum ADF package available from Debian or Ubuntu. I can also send you the Pro version under development I'm working on, or anything else similar. So that not concerns Minion pro only, but all OTF and TTF using new OT technology. The best in this case is probably forget minion pro ;-) Is a bug ? Certainly, since there is no reason that should work fine on WIN and not on Ubuntu, I think. The interest here isn't fonts coming from Ubuntu natively, and maybe enough for basic users, but, enterprises or professional works using proprietary font softwares for theirs business. So I hope you will understand my insistence because this is more a commercial aspect of ubuntu use rather than as a home work station. With all my thanks _ Hirwen Harendal -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/773207 Title: Problem with Kerning using Minion Pro font -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 773207] Re: Problem with OT Kerning feature fonts
Hi christopher 2011/4/30 Christopher M. Penalver : > Hirwen HARENDAL, after examining the information you have given us, this > does not appear to be a bug report so we are closing it and converting > it to a question in the support tracker. We understand the difficulties > you are facing, but it would make more sense to raise problems you are > having in the support tracker at https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu if > you are uncertain if they are bugs. For help on reporting bugs, see > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs. I'm thinking now that is more a bug in Ubuntu since, all works in Ooo on WIn See Files attached. If you work with the .odtt file with Libreoffice on Ubuntu, the first lines for each font are the same as no kerning and not like the screenshot made from OOo and WIN. The fonts used are the same for both OS. In addition, no problem with font selection style in WIN at start. -- Hirwen HARENDAL ** Changed in: libreoffice (Ubuntu) Status: Invalid => New ** Attachment added: "Test-Win.zip" https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/773207/+attachment/2109690/+files/Test-Win.zip -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/773207 Title: Problem with OT Kerning feature fonts -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 773207] Re: Problem with OT Kerning feature fonts
status change to new, with new compoments -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/773207 Title: Problem with OT Kerning feature fonts -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 773207] Re: Problem with OT Kerning feature fonts
Hi christopher 2011/4/30 Christopher M. Penalver : > Hirwen HARENDAL, I was successful in creating the desired kerning effect > in Ubuntu 10.10, Microsoft Word 2003 via WINE by highlighting the text > with font Houros ADF -> secondary click the highlighted text -> primary > click Font... -> Character Spacing tab -> to the right of Spacing: click > the drop-down box and choose Condensed -> to the right of Condensed > click the combo-box and choose 5.0pt -> click OK button. ** Sorry christopher, spacing isn't kerning, please see explanations in my previous message and attached odt file for difference. I used Baskervald since this font use both kerning informations. > Please see attached msword2003-screenshot.png. ** it seems that kerning isn't activated in your screenshot. you have just activate it without make any spacing adjustment. The question is to know if Libreoffice can read the GPOS table kerning informations. or standard kerning table only. -- Hirwen HARENDAL ** Attachment added: "Test2.zip" https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/773207/+attachment/2099839/+files/Test2.zip -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/773207 Title: Problem with OT Kerning feature fonts -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 773207] Re: Problem with OT Kerning feature fonts
hi christopher > notice the kerning is as the attached Screenshot.png. I was able to > produce this kerning by highlighting the text -> secondary click the > highlighted text -> primary click Character... -> Position tab -> under > Spacing click the drop-down box and choose Condensed -> in the combo box > to the right of Condensed choose 5.0pt -> click OK ** I not spoke about spacing ajustement or effects between glyphs, you can do, but basic kerning inserted in font. Use false condensed (or expanted) staying a text style effect, having nothing to do with kerning. I will not write a text like in your screenshot using nimbus :-) You haven't to do this with nimbus, because nimbus use a standard kerning table. Opentype technology now used (for OTF and TTF) stores all features in GSUB and GPOS table. For the same reasons, it's not possible at this time to accede to features like ligatures, alternate, sub etc. excepted by using insert character fonctions. The problem is that Libreoffice like Ooo seems not read the GPOS table kerning information when standard kerning table doesn't exist specially with fonts respecting opentype specifications, I think. Best to you -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/773207 Title: Problem with OT Kerning feature fonts -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 773207] Re: Problem with OT Kerning feature fonts
> Does this issue occur with a font that comes native with LibreOffice? ** Maybe Gentium, I'm not sure, since this one uses anchor technology and no kerning information is available. > if not, please attach to this bug a free font .ttf file that demonstrates > this problem, or if a font that demonstrates this problem is available > via the Ubuntu repositories please reference the package so that we may > address this issue promptly. ** I attached a new font, generated with OT kerning feature only. - In the kern.png file, the kern-pair Ty and Tz - In the sample.png file the result in Libreoffice. ** Attachment added: "test.zip" https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/773207/+attachment/2096756/+files/test.zip -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/773207 Title: Problem with OT Kerning feature fonts -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 773207] Re: Problem with OT Kerning feature fonts
capture files -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/773207 Title: Problem with OT Kerning feature fonts -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 773207] Re: Problem with OT Kerning feature fonts
** Attachment added: "captures.zip" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/773207/+attachment/2095739/+files/captures.zip -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/773207 Title: Problem with OT Kerning feature fonts -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 773207] [NEW] Problem with OT Kerning feature fonts
Public bug reported: Binary package hint: libreoffice Kerning doesn't work, even if activated from the character panel. (capture-1 file) The font used is Minion-Pro, kerning pairs "AV"," VA" or "Ty" are inserted in the kerning feature included in the GPOS table only. But the problem is the same for Myriad, AGaramond, etc and any OTF (or TTF) fonts using kerning feature from GPOS table. It's possible to compare this by using scribus where kerning works (capture-2) The same trouble appeared for ADF's fonts in LibreOffice and Ooo. The solution found was to add a standard kerning table in addition of the kerning feature of the GPOS table. LibreOffice 3.3.2 OOO330m19 (Build:202) tag libreoffice-3.3.2.2, Ubuntu package 1:3.3.2-1ubuntu2~lucid1 ** Affects: libreoffice (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/773207 Title: Problem with OT Kerning feature fonts -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 603622] Re: Fonts styles selection can't be applied
** Changed in: libreoffice (Ubuntu) Status: Invalid => Fix Committed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/603622 Title: Fonts styles selection can't be applied -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 603622] Re: Fonts styles selection can't be applied
Good evening Christopher 2011/4/28 Christopher M. Penalver : > Hirwen HARENDAL, thank you for working together with me on this bug. Let > us deal with one issue, and one font at a time: > > It seemed based on your comments that LibreOffice solves the "Fonts > styles selection can't be applied" issue. Is this true? ** Yes, libreoffice solves the issue, using font TT family name (see capture-1 file), rather PS name or OT preferred family name (something like capture-2 file) as describes in the WPF font selection model PDF. But all styles selected work now. As I said, maybe interesting like this to switch a family to another... That not solves the problem of kerning (see capture-3 file), even if actived from the character panel. The font used is Minion-Pro. The kerning pairs are inserted in the kerning feature included in the GPOS table only. If the kerning works in the capture-2 file it's because a standard kerning table is made in addition of the kerning feature... This is the solution found to solves the issue with the same trouble for ADF's fonts and Ooo or LO. Not possible to convince your boss to use his Adobe fonts suite on writer rather than word with a trouble like this, I think. -- Hirwen HARENDAL ** Attachment added: "captures.zip" https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/603622/+attachment/2093813/+files/captures.zip -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/603622 Title: Fonts styles selection can't be applied -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 603622] Re: Fonts styles selection can't be applied
Hello Christopher. ** Yet ! Sorry for my bad English below. 2011/2/25 Christopher M. Penalver > > Hirwen HARENDAL, thank you for reporting this bug and helping make > Ubuntu better. Could you please attach the Writer file and fonts that > this issue occurs with? ** Not possible for commercial ones ! DéjàVu fonts are included in the distro. For ADF fonts, all of them are available at : http://arkandis.tuxfamily.org/fonts.html (not from debian packages since they aren't updated and don't used font name by collection). I decided during the summer 2010 to rework font naming using WPF specifications and opentype font naming PDF by Thomas Phinney from Adobe. This was the best way to rule problems reported by fedora font team and some users with font names. - Note: Archlinux packager uses the last version of the fonts and no problem are reported for now. > Does this issue occur for you in LibreOffice Writer? ** I'm using LibreOffice since version 3.3 RC2. All families are available separately in the font selection panel. I think that they are managing using these "TTF family name" rather than family name or prefered OT family name. If that works, but no corresponding to the WPF font selection model specifications. But, but but, more easy to switch one family to an other like this, and like in openoffice on WIN. http://blogs.msdn.com/b/text/archive/2007/04/23/wpf-font-selection-model.aspx - But Arial doesn't work in Word like described in the PDF too... ** No new test with Abiword. ** No problem with Scribus. Regards Hirwen HARENDAL -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/603622 Title: Fonts styles selection can't be applied -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 603622] Re: Fonts styles selection can't be applied
** Attachment added: "Dependencies.txt" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/51626561/Dependencies.txt -- Fonts styles selection can't be applied https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/603622 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 603622] [NEW] Fonts styles selection can't be applied
Public bug reported: Binary package hint: openoffice.org Change fonts style from fonts collections in the font style panel can't be applied, even if fonts are present in this one. version: Openoffice 1:3.2.0-7ubuntu4.1 on Ubuntu 10.04 Gnome 32 - Fonts: DéjàVu (TTF), Nimbus Sans (PS-Type1), Minion-pro and Myriad-pro (OTF from Adobe), and new versions of GilliusADF, GilliusADF N°2, TribunADF, NeoGothisADF, ElectrumADF, UniversalisADF (OTF from Arkandis Digital Foundry). - Same problem with Openoffice 3.2.1 on Mandriva-KDE 32 - No problem in OpenOffice 3.2.1 on Windows 32 These fonts use font naming specifications by collection. This not affects the use of these fonts with Scribus (any OS) In Addition, kerning from fonts using kerning by classes (Adobe fonts, Electrum ADF) doesn't work in OpenOffice on Ubuntu (But works fine in Windows) ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 10.04 Package: openoffice.org 1:3.2.0-7ubuntu4.1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.32-23.37-generic 2.6.32.15+drm33.5 Uname: Linux 2.6.32-23-generic i686 NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia Architecture: i386 Date: Fri Jul 9 15:56:55 2010 ProcEnviron: PATH=(custom, no user) LANG=fr_FR.utf8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: openoffice.org ** Affects: openoffice.org (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Tags: apport-bug i386 lucid -- Fonts styles selection can't be applied https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/603622 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
