Re: [Bug 145337] Re: Brightness key stopped working after update [Gutsy]

2007-10-22 Thread Kyle S
Loic Nageleisen wrote:
> my conclusion:
> - acpi stuff now only generates events and does not takes action anymore
> - gnome power manager is the only app currently able to catch these key or 
> hal events and change brightness accordingly
> - there's no app for KDE able to do that
> - there's no console app either

I agree with this, I posted a similar analysis a month or so ago. In
fact, as of a couple of days ago I began working around the problem in
KDE by shutting down guidance-power-manager and running gnome-power-manager.

If these analyses are correct, then I'm at a loss as to how it seems to
be overlooked that Kubuntu appears to have no facility for handling
brightness key events, and how the actual brightness-changing
functionality got removed from /etc/acpi/events before
guidance-power-manager (or whatever) grew a replacement for it.

> so one should:
> 1. implement this in kde power manager
> 2. implement this in a daemon listening for hal events (so that it works in 
> console mode)
> 3. make sure those cooperate so that brightness is not set multiple times for 
> one keypress

Agreed, I'd like to repeat my opinion that having to be logged into your
desktop environment to change the brightness of your LCD using
*dedicated hardware keys* is less than ideal.

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Re: [Bug 145337] Re: Brightness key stopped working after update [Gutsy]

2007-10-02 Thread Kyle S
On Tuesday 02 October 2007 18:26:28 Thomas Sommer wrote:
> Some package have been updated.
> Now the FN-brightness keys work again.

Still not working for me in KDE land, upgraded a number of packages, last 
upgrade was less than an hour ago. Browsing the code in 
guidance-power-manager right now, there was a python indentation error in 
it's DCOP interface code for brightness control. Fixing that didn't make the 
buttons work, however, and I can't see anywhere else besides that and the 
slider controls where brightness calls to HAL are made.

So, still trying to figure it out..

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[Bug 145337] Re: Brightness key stopped working after update [Gutsy]

2007-10-04 Thread Kyle S
> ** Changed in: kdebase (Ubuntu)
>Status: New => Invalid
>
> ** Changed in: gnome-power-manager (Ubuntu)
>Status: New => Fix Released

I'd like to gently point out that the original reporter of this bug is a KDE 
user. This makes no sense at all.

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Re: [Bug 145337] Re: Brightness key stopped working after update [Gutsy]

2007-10-05 Thread Kyle S
On Friday 05 October 2007 11:22:41 der_vegi wrote:
> Yes, you're right, the marking is counter-productive. 
> [...]
> It might be a HAL bug, but as I am not too much into that stuff, I'll
> keep my fingers off marking now. ;)

Yeah it seems like we're having to speculate where the problem actually lies 
because I for one still cannot find any documentation or insight on how it's 
*supposed* to work.

It looks to me like they moved most of the ACPI event-handling functionality 
out of the /etc/acpi scripts and into gnome-power-manager, 
guidance-power-manager, or kpowersave which listen for the events via HAL. If 
that is the case, then neither guidance nor kpowersave seem have any 
provision at all for handling brightness key events in the first place, so 
perhaps the modifications to /etc/acpi should be reverted for the brightness 
keys.

On the other hand, this could be dead wrong, in which case, somebody who knows 
how these subsystems are set up in (k)ubuntu, and/or where to find said 
information, *please* chime in.

And I tend to agree that having to be logged into your DE to change the screen 
brightness using dedicated hardware keys is... not ideal.

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Re: [Bug 145337] Re: Brightness key stopped working after update [Gutsy]

2007-10-07 Thread Kyle S
On Saturday 06 October 2007 15:18:01 Alexander Hunziker wrote:
> As of today, brightness setting fully works for me on a T60. Anyone
> confirming that?

Also on a T60 here, still not working for me (in KDE).

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Re: [Bug 145337] Re: Brightness key stopped working after update [Gutsy]

2007-11-01 Thread Kyle S
> 1. Exact HW

ThinkPad T60

> cat /var/lib/acpi-support/system-product-name

2007C3U

> 2. Does these two command (if run from Konsole) change brightness
> properly on your laptop?

Yes, they do. I get a tooltip over guidance-power-manager's kicker icon
about the brightness as well, instead of the KMilo OSD that it used to
display the last time it worked.

> 3. Does your laptop return same keycodes from brightness up (212) and
down (101)

Affirmative

> .. what does "lshal -m" report when key is pressed?

18:17:49.465: platform_i8042_i8042_KBD_port_logicaldev_input condition
ButtonPressed = brightness-up
18:17:49.848: platform_i8042_i8042_KBD_port_logicaldev_input condition
ButtonPressed = brightness-down

HTH!

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[Bug 145337] Re: Brightness key stopped working after update [Gutsy]

2007-09-30 Thread Kyle S
I have the same symptoms as the OP on my up-to-date ThinkPad T60 running
Kubuntu. Brightness keys do not work even though "lshal -m",
"acpi_listen", and acpid all see them/do the right thing. No OSD from
kmilo anymore either, for anything, even volume or thinklight which work
(probably only because they are done in hardware). This all worked
several weeks ago, and has actually always worked up until then.
Guidance can still adjust the brightness with the slider.

Although it's not related directly to this bug, I tend to think it's not
coincidental that my lock (Fn-F2, used to lock the session I think, I
didn't use it much), battery (Fn-F3, which used to cause guidance-power-
manager to show it's tooltip), suspend (Fn-F4), and suspend-to-disk keys
(Fn-F12) do not work right anymore either, and broke at the same time.
Their implementations in /etc/acpi and so forth are also all similar,
only generating various fake keys (see below).

The biggest problem with my troubleshooting is that I can't
understand/find information on the big picture, how is this mechanism
supposed to work at all to begin with. I seem to remember (although
admittedly not infallibly) that the scripts in /etc/acpi used to
actually modify the brightness (and perform the other key actions)
directly thru /sys or /proc somehow. Now all they appear do is
synthesize keystrokes using acpi_fakekey. This works right too, xev for
example sees these fake keystrokes (although many of them do not have
keysyms). But, is some program supposed to receive these keystrokes and
perform the action? Or am I barking up the wrong tree? What is HAL's
role, if any, in making this work?

After the fake key generation, I lose the trail. Any clues? This is a
terrible nuisance because I use(d) these keys frequently. Being night-
blinded by your laptop is not cool :)

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[Bug 134252] Re: alsa mixer channels missing after upgrade to linux-image-2.6.22-10-generic with Intel 82801G HDA chip

2007-08-23 Thread Kyle S
Confirming on my T60 with 82801G as well, including PCM going missing
intermittently. It works fine on -9, broken on -10. Unfortunately I am
reluctant to go back to -9 for normal use because of Very Annoying Bug
#129226 which is fixed in -10 !

One other detail: the "PC speaker" system bell noise is at normal
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Re: [Bug 121439] Re: [Gutsy]Network Manager Applet can't connect wireless with ipw3945 driver

2007-08-02 Thread Kyle S
On Thursday 02 August 2007 17:15, yostral wrote:
> I can now (from when I could ? I don't know) connect to an wep encrypted
> network with NetworkManager, without switching the kill switch button.
> But I still need to do that with an unencrypted one.

I am also now in the same boat after dist-upgrade. Thinkpad T60 with
ipw3945.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache show linux-image-2.6.22-9-generic \
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Package: linux-image-2.6.22-9-generic
Version: 2.6.22-9.21
Package: network-manager
Version: 0.6.5-0ubuntu7
Package: knetworkmanager
Version: 1:0.2~r686534-0ubuntu1

WEP networks connect fine, have to use the kill switch trick on open
ones.

Additionally, KNetworkManager is now acting funny, the first time I try to 
select a network after login, I have to tell it to connect to a particular 
network twice, the first time I select it, the icon just blinks at me and 
then continues doing whatever it was doing (either automatically connecting 
to some network I'm not interested in, or sitting there disconnected). 
Obviously this may be a separate bug, but thought I'd throw it out there.

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[Bug 121439] Re: [Gutsy]Network Manager Applet can't connect wireless with ipw3945 driver

2007-07-01 Thread Kyle S
I'm also having this problem, 2.6.22-7-generic, network-
manager_0.6.5-0ubuntu4, using ipw3945 on a thinkpad T60. On boot the
startup scripts get a connection to any open AP properly, ifup and
ifdown work fine, device names are normal (eth0 copper, eth1 wifi).
After using KNetworkManager things go "awry." There is play-by-play in
the attached logfile.

I have always had occasional random troubles with ipw3945 flying south
on Feisty (I chalk it up to that aggravating reg daemon, will be happy
when iwlwifi makes it in), but removing and re-modprobing the module has
always fixed it. This did not help in this case. RF kill does not seem
to affect it.

Also of note, the first time this happened, the link would be fine on
boot, as above, but after NM frobbed it, ip link would show it being NO-
CARRIER. I couldn't reproduce this last symptom for this report.

HTH,
Kyle

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Re: [Bug 145337] Re: Brightness key stopped working after update [Gutsy]

2007-10-22 Thread Kyle S
Loic Nageleisen wrote:
> my conclusion:
> - acpi stuff now only generates events and does not takes action anymore
> - gnome power manager is the only app currently able to catch these key or 
> hal events and change brightness accordingly
> - there's no app for KDE able to do that
> - there's no console app either

I agree with this, I posted a similar analysis a month or so ago. In
fact, as of a couple of days ago I began working around the problem in
KDE by shutting down guidance-power-manager and running gnome-power-manager.

If these analyses are correct, then I'm at a loss as to how it seems to
be overlooked that Kubuntu appears to have no facility for handling
brightness key events, and how the actual brightness-changing
functionality got removed from /etc/acpi/events before
guidance-power-manager (or whatever) grew a replacement for it.

> so one should:
> 1. implement this in kde power manager
> 2. implement this in a daemon listening for hal events (so that it works in 
> console mode)
> 3. make sure those cooperate so that brightness is not set multiple times for 
> one keypress

Agreed, I'd like to repeat my opinion that having to be logged into your
desktop environment to change the brightness of your LCD using
*dedicated hardware keys* is less than ideal.

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Re: [Bug 145337] Re: Brightness key stopped working after update [Gutsy]

2007-11-01 Thread Kyle S
> 1. Exact HW

ThinkPad T60

> cat /var/lib/acpi-support/system-product-name

2007C3U

> 2. Does these two command (if run from Konsole) change brightness
> properly on your laptop?

Yes, they do. I get a tooltip over guidance-power-manager's kicker icon
about the brightness as well, instead of the KMilo OSD that it used to
display the last time it worked.

> 3. Does your laptop return same keycodes from brightness up (212) and
down (101)

Affirmative

> .. what does "lshal -m" report when key is pressed?

18:17:49.465: platform_i8042_i8042_KBD_port_logicaldev_input condition
ButtonPressed = brightness-up
18:17:49.848: platform_i8042_i8042_KBD_port_logicaldev_input condition
ButtonPressed = brightness-down

HTH!

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Re: [Bug 121439] Re: [Gutsy]Network Manager Applet can't connect wireless with ipw3945 driver

2007-08-02 Thread Kyle S
On Thursday 02 August 2007 17:15, yostral wrote:
> I can now (from when I could ? I don't know) connect to an wep encrypted
> network with NetworkManager, without switching the kill switch button.
> But I still need to do that with an unencrypted one.

I am also now in the same boat after dist-upgrade. Thinkpad T60 with
ipw3945.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache show linux-image-2.6.22-9-generic \
   network-manager knetworkmanager | egrep '^Ver|^Pack'
Package: linux-image-2.6.22-9-generic
Version: 2.6.22-9.21
Package: network-manager
Version: 0.6.5-0ubuntu7
Package: knetworkmanager
Version: 1:0.2~r686534-0ubuntu1

WEP networks connect fine, have to use the kill switch trick on open
ones.

Additionally, KNetworkManager is now acting funny, the first time I try to 
select a network after login, I have to tell it to connect to a particular 
network twice, the first time I select it, the icon just blinks at me and 
then continues doing whatever it was doing (either automatically connecting 
to some network I'm not interested in, or sitting there disconnected). 
Obviously this may be a separate bug, but thought I'd throw it out there.

Kyle

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[Bug 134252] Re: alsa mixer channels missing after upgrade to linux-image-2.6.22-10-generic with Intel 82801G HDA chip

2007-08-23 Thread Kyle S
Confirming on my T60 with 82801G as well, including PCM going missing
intermittently. It works fine on -9, broken on -10. Unfortunately I am
reluctant to go back to -9 for normal use because of Very Annoying Bug
#129226 which is fixed in -10 !

One other detail: the "PC speaker" system bell noise is at normal
levels, but I can hear nothing else thru speakers or headphones.

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[Bug 145337] Re: Brightness key stopped working after update [Gutsy]

2007-09-30 Thread Kyle S
I have the same symptoms as the OP on my up-to-date ThinkPad T60 running
Kubuntu. Brightness keys do not work even though "lshal -m",
"acpi_listen", and acpid all see them/do the right thing. No OSD from
kmilo anymore either, for anything, even volume or thinklight which work
(probably only because they are done in hardware). This all worked
several weeks ago, and has actually always worked up until then.
Guidance can still adjust the brightness with the slider.

Although it's not related directly to this bug, I tend to think it's not
coincidental that my lock (Fn-F2, used to lock the session I think, I
didn't use it much), battery (Fn-F3, which used to cause guidance-power-
manager to show it's tooltip), suspend (Fn-F4), and suspend-to-disk keys
(Fn-F12) do not work right anymore either, and broke at the same time.
Their implementations in /etc/acpi and so forth are also all similar,
only generating various fake keys (see below).

The biggest problem with my troubleshooting is that I can't
understand/find information on the big picture, how is this mechanism
supposed to work at all to begin with. I seem to remember (although
admittedly not infallibly) that the scripts in /etc/acpi used to
actually modify the brightness (and perform the other key actions)
directly thru /sys or /proc somehow. Now all they appear do is
synthesize keystrokes using acpi_fakekey. This works right too, xev for
example sees these fake keystrokes (although many of them do not have
keysyms). But, is some program supposed to receive these keystrokes and
perform the action? Or am I barking up the wrong tree? What is HAL's
role, if any, in making this work?

After the fake key generation, I lose the trail. Any clues? This is a
terrible nuisance because I use(d) these keys frequently. Being night-
blinded by your laptop is not cool :)

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Re: [Bug 145337] Re: Brightness key stopped working after update [Gutsy]

2007-10-02 Thread Kyle S
On Tuesday 02 October 2007 18:26:28 Thomas Sommer wrote:
> Some package have been updated.
> Now the FN-brightness keys work again.

Still not working for me in KDE land, upgraded a number of packages, last 
upgrade was less than an hour ago. Browsing the code in 
guidance-power-manager right now, there was a python indentation error in 
it's DCOP interface code for brightness control. Fixing that didn't make the 
buttons work, however, and I can't see anywhere else besides that and the 
slider controls where brightness calls to HAL are made.

So, still trying to figure it out..

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[Bug 145337] Re: Brightness key stopped working after update [Gutsy]

2007-10-04 Thread Kyle S
> ** Changed in: kdebase (Ubuntu)
>Status: New => Invalid
>
> ** Changed in: gnome-power-manager (Ubuntu)
>Status: New => Fix Released

I'd like to gently point out that the original reporter of this bug is a KDE 
user. This makes no sense at all.

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Re: [Bug 145337] Re: Brightness key stopped working after update [Gutsy]

2007-10-05 Thread Kyle S
On Friday 05 October 2007 11:22:41 der_vegi wrote:
> Yes, you're right, the marking is counter-productive. 
> [...]
> It might be a HAL bug, but as I am not too much into that stuff, I'll
> keep my fingers off marking now. ;)

Yeah it seems like we're having to speculate where the problem actually lies 
because I for one still cannot find any documentation or insight on how it's 
*supposed* to work.

It looks to me like they moved most of the ACPI event-handling functionality 
out of the /etc/acpi scripts and into gnome-power-manager, 
guidance-power-manager, or kpowersave which listen for the events via HAL. If 
that is the case, then neither guidance nor kpowersave seem have any 
provision at all for handling brightness key events in the first place, so 
perhaps the modifications to /etc/acpi should be reverted for the brightness 
keys.

On the other hand, this could be dead wrong, in which case, somebody who knows 
how these subsystems are set up in (k)ubuntu, and/or where to find said 
information, *please* chime in.

And I tend to agree that having to be logged into your DE to change the screen 
brightness using dedicated hardware keys is... not ideal.

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Re: [Bug 145337] Re: Brightness key stopped working after update [Gutsy]

2007-10-07 Thread Kyle S
On Saturday 06 October 2007 15:18:01 Alexander Hunziker wrote:
> As of today, brightness setting fully works for me on a T60. Anyone
> confirming that?

Also on a T60 here, still not working for me (in KDE).

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[Bug 121439] Re: [Gutsy]Network Manager Applet can't connect wireless with ipw3945 driver

2007-07-01 Thread Kyle S
I'm also having this problem, 2.6.22-7-generic, network-
manager_0.6.5-0ubuntu4, using ipw3945 on a thinkpad T60. On boot the
startup scripts get a connection to any open AP properly, ifup and
ifdown work fine, device names are normal (eth0 copper, eth1 wifi).
After using KNetworkManager things go "awry." There is play-by-play in
the attached logfile.

I have always had occasional random troubles with ipw3945 flying south
on Feisty (I chalk it up to that aggravating reg daemon, will be happy
when iwlwifi makes it in), but removing and re-modprobing the module has
always fixed it. This did not help in this case. RF kill does not seem
to affect it.

Also of note, the first time this happened, the link would be fine on
boot, as above, but after NM frobbed it, ip link would show it being NO-
CARRIER. I couldn't reproduce this last symptom for this report.

HTH,
Kyle

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Re: [Bug 145337] Re: Brightness key stopped working after update [Gutsy]

2007-10-02 Thread Kyle S
On Tuesday 02 October 2007 18:26:28 Thomas Sommer wrote:
> Some package have been updated.
> Now the FN-brightness keys work again.

Still not working for me in KDE land, upgraded a number of packages, last 
upgrade was less than an hour ago. Browsing the code in 
guidance-power-manager right now, there was a python indentation error in 
it's DCOP interface code for brightness control. Fixing that didn't make the 
buttons work, however, and I can't see anywhere else besides that and the 
slider controls where brightness calls to HAL are made.

So, still trying to figure it out..

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[Bug 145337] Re: Brightness key stopped working after update [Gutsy]

2007-10-04 Thread Kyle S
> ** Changed in: kdebase (Ubuntu)
>Status: New => Invalid
>
> ** Changed in: gnome-power-manager (Ubuntu)
>Status: New => Fix Released

I'd like to gently point out that the original reporter of this bug is a KDE 
user. This makes no sense at all.

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Re: [Bug 145337] Re: Brightness key stopped working after update [Gutsy]

2007-10-05 Thread Kyle S
On Friday 05 October 2007 11:22:41 der_vegi wrote:
> Yes, you're right, the marking is counter-productive. 
> [...]
> It might be a HAL bug, but as I am not too much into that stuff, I'll
> keep my fingers off marking now. ;)

Yeah it seems like we're having to speculate where the problem actually lies 
because I for one still cannot find any documentation or insight on how it's 
*supposed* to work.

It looks to me like they moved most of the ACPI event-handling functionality 
out of the /etc/acpi scripts and into gnome-power-manager, 
guidance-power-manager, or kpowersave which listen for the events via HAL. If 
that is the case, then neither guidance nor kpowersave seem have any 
provision at all for handling brightness key events in the first place, so 
perhaps the modifications to /etc/acpi should be reverted for the brightness 
keys.

On the other hand, this could be dead wrong, in which case, somebody who knows 
how these subsystems are set up in (k)ubuntu, and/or where to find said 
information, *please* chime in.

And I tend to agree that having to be logged into your DE to change the screen 
brightness using dedicated hardware keys is... not ideal.

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Re: [Bug 145337] Re: Brightness key stopped working after update [Gutsy]

2007-10-07 Thread Kyle S
On Saturday 06 October 2007 15:18:01 Alexander Hunziker wrote:
> As of today, brightness setting fully works for me on a T60. Anyone
> confirming that?

Also on a T60 here, still not working for me (in KDE).

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[Bug 145337] Re: Brightness key stopped working after update [Gutsy]

2007-09-30 Thread Kyle S
I have the same symptoms as the OP on my up-to-date ThinkPad T60 running
Kubuntu. Brightness keys do not work even though "lshal -m",
"acpi_listen", and acpid all see them/do the right thing. No OSD from
kmilo anymore either, for anything, even volume or thinklight which work
(probably only because they are done in hardware). This all worked
several weeks ago, and has actually always worked up until then.
Guidance can still adjust the brightness with the slider.

Although it's not related directly to this bug, I tend to think it's not
coincidental that my lock (Fn-F2, used to lock the session I think, I
didn't use it much), battery (Fn-F3, which used to cause guidance-power-
manager to show it's tooltip), suspend (Fn-F4), and suspend-to-disk keys
(Fn-F12) do not work right anymore either, and broke at the same time.
Their implementations in /etc/acpi and so forth are also all similar,
only generating various fake keys (see below).

The biggest problem with my troubleshooting is that I can't
understand/find information on the big picture, how is this mechanism
supposed to work at all to begin with. I seem to remember (although
admittedly not infallibly) that the scripts in /etc/acpi used to
actually modify the brightness (and perform the other key actions)
directly thru /sys or /proc somehow. Now all they appear do is
synthesize keystrokes using acpi_fakekey. This works right too, xev for
example sees these fake keystrokes (although many of them do not have
keysyms). But, is some program supposed to receive these keystrokes and
perform the action? Or am I barking up the wrong tree? What is HAL's
role, if any, in making this work?

After the fake key generation, I lose the trail. Any clues? This is a
terrible nuisance because I use(d) these keys frequently. Being night-
blinded by your laptop is not cool :)

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Re: [Bug 121439] Re: [Gutsy]Network Manager Applet can't connect wireless with ipw3945 driver

2007-08-02 Thread Kyle S
On Thursday 02 August 2007 17:15, yostral wrote:
> I can now (from when I could ? I don't know) connect to an wep encrypted
> network with NetworkManager, without switching the kill switch button.
> But I still need to do that with an unencrypted one.

I am also now in the same boat after dist-upgrade. Thinkpad T60 with
ipw3945.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache show linux-image-2.6.22-9-generic \
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Package: linux-image-2.6.22-9-generic
Version: 2.6.22-9.21
Package: network-manager
Version: 0.6.5-0ubuntu7
Package: knetworkmanager
Version: 1:0.2~r686534-0ubuntu1

WEP networks connect fine, have to use the kill switch trick on open
ones.

Additionally, KNetworkManager is now acting funny, the first time I try to 
select a network after login, I have to tell it to connect to a particular 
network twice, the first time I select it, the icon just blinks at me and 
then continues doing whatever it was doing (either automatically connecting 
to some network I'm not interested in, or sitting there disconnected). 
Obviously this may be a separate bug, but thought I'd throw it out there.

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[Bug 134252] Re: alsa mixer channels missing after upgrade to linux-image-2.6.22-10-generic with Intel 82801G HDA chip

2007-08-23 Thread Kyle S
Confirming on my T60 with 82801G as well, including PCM going missing
intermittently. It works fine on -9, broken on -10. Unfortunately I am
reluctant to go back to -9 for normal use because of Very Annoying Bug
#129226 which is fixed in -10 !

One other detail: the "PC speaker" system bell noise is at normal
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Re: [Bug 145337] Re: Brightness key stopped working after update [Gutsy]

2007-10-22 Thread Kyle S
Loic Nageleisen wrote:
> my conclusion:
> - acpi stuff now only generates events and does not takes action anymore
> - gnome power manager is the only app currently able to catch these key or 
> hal events and change brightness accordingly
> - there's no app for KDE able to do that
> - there's no console app either

I agree with this, I posted a similar analysis a month or so ago. In
fact, as of a couple of days ago I began working around the problem in
KDE by shutting down guidance-power-manager and running gnome-power-manager.

If these analyses are correct, then I'm at a loss as to how it seems to
be overlooked that Kubuntu appears to have no facility for handling
brightness key events, and how the actual brightness-changing
functionality got removed from /etc/acpi/events before
guidance-power-manager (or whatever) grew a replacement for it.

> so one should:
> 1. implement this in kde power manager
> 2. implement this in a daemon listening for hal events (so that it works in 
> console mode)
> 3. make sure those cooperate so that brightness is not set multiple times for 
> one keypress

Agreed, I'd like to repeat my opinion that having to be logged into your
desktop environment to change the brightness of your LCD using
*dedicated hardware keys* is less than ideal.

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Re: [Bug 145337] Re: Brightness key stopped working after update [Gutsy]

2007-11-01 Thread Kyle S
> 1. Exact HW

ThinkPad T60

> cat /var/lib/acpi-support/system-product-name

2007C3U

> 2. Does these two command (if run from Konsole) change brightness
> properly on your laptop?

Yes, they do. I get a tooltip over guidance-power-manager's kicker icon
about the brightness as well, instead of the KMilo OSD that it used to
display the last time it worked.

> 3. Does your laptop return same keycodes from brightness up (212) and
down (101)

Affirmative

> .. what does "lshal -m" report when key is pressed?

18:17:49.465: platform_i8042_i8042_KBD_port_logicaldev_input condition
ButtonPressed = brightness-up
18:17:49.848: platform_i8042_i8042_KBD_port_logicaldev_input condition
ButtonPressed = brightness-down

HTH!

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[Bug 121439] Re: [Gutsy]Network Manager Applet can't connect wireless with ipw3945 driver

2007-07-01 Thread Kyle S
I'm also having this problem, 2.6.22-7-generic, network-
manager_0.6.5-0ubuntu4, using ipw3945 on a thinkpad T60. On boot the
startup scripts get a connection to any open AP properly, ifup and
ifdown work fine, device names are normal (eth0 copper, eth1 wifi).
After using KNetworkManager things go "awry." There is play-by-play in
the attached logfile.

I have always had occasional random troubles with ipw3945 flying south
on Feisty (I chalk it up to that aggravating reg daemon, will be happy
when iwlwifi makes it in), but removing and re-modprobing the module has
always fixed it. This did not help in this case. RF kill does not seem
to affect it.

Also of note, the first time this happened, the link would be fine on
boot, as above, but after NM frobbed it, ip link would show it being NO-
CARRIER. I couldn't reproduce this last symptom for this report.

HTH,
Kyle

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Re: [Bug 121439] Re: [Gutsy]Network Manager Applet can't connect wireless with ipw3945 driver

2007-08-02 Thread Kyle S
On Thursday 02 August 2007 17:15, yostral wrote:
> I can now (from when I could ? I don't know) connect to an wep encrypted
> network with NetworkManager, without switching the kill switch button.
> But I still need to do that with an unencrypted one.

I am also now in the same boat after dist-upgrade. Thinkpad T60 with
ipw3945.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache show linux-image-2.6.22-9-generic \
   network-manager knetworkmanager | egrep '^Ver|^Pack'
Package: linux-image-2.6.22-9-generic
Version: 2.6.22-9.21
Package: network-manager
Version: 0.6.5-0ubuntu7
Package: knetworkmanager
Version: 1:0.2~r686534-0ubuntu1

WEP networks connect fine, have to use the kill switch trick on open
ones.

Additionally, KNetworkManager is now acting funny, the first time I try to 
select a network after login, I have to tell it to connect to a particular 
network twice, the first time I select it, the icon just blinks at me and 
then continues doing whatever it was doing (either automatically connecting 
to some network I'm not interested in, or sitting there disconnected). 
Obviously this may be a separate bug, but thought I'd throw it out there.

Kyle

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[Bug 134252] Re: alsa mixer channels missing after upgrade to linux-image-2.6.22-10-generic with Intel 82801G HDA chip

2007-08-23 Thread Kyle S
Confirming on my T60 with 82801G as well, including PCM going missing
intermittently. It works fine on -9, broken on -10. Unfortunately I am
reluctant to go back to -9 for normal use because of Very Annoying Bug
#129226 which is fixed in -10 !

One other detail: the "PC speaker" system bell noise is at normal
levels, but I can hear nothing else thru speakers or headphones.

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Re: [Bug 145337] Re: Brightness key stopped working after update [Gutsy]

2007-10-02 Thread Kyle S
On Tuesday 02 October 2007 18:26:28 Thomas Sommer wrote:
> Some package have been updated.
> Now the FN-brightness keys work again.

Still not working for me in KDE land, upgraded a number of packages, last 
upgrade was less than an hour ago. Browsing the code in 
guidance-power-manager right now, there was a python indentation error in 
it's DCOP interface code for brightness control. Fixing that didn't make the 
buttons work, however, and I can't see anywhere else besides that and the 
slider controls where brightness calls to HAL are made.

So, still trying to figure it out..

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[Bug 145337] Re: Brightness key stopped working after update [Gutsy]

2007-10-04 Thread Kyle S
> ** Changed in: kdebase (Ubuntu)
>Status: New => Invalid
>
> ** Changed in: gnome-power-manager (Ubuntu)
>Status: New => Fix Released

I'd like to gently point out that the original reporter of this bug is a KDE 
user. This makes no sense at all.

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Re: [Bug 145337] Re: Brightness key stopped working after update [Gutsy]

2007-10-05 Thread Kyle S
On Friday 05 October 2007 11:22:41 der_vegi wrote:
> Yes, you're right, the marking is counter-productive. 
> [...]
> It might be a HAL bug, but as I am not too much into that stuff, I'll
> keep my fingers off marking now. ;)

Yeah it seems like we're having to speculate where the problem actually lies 
because I for one still cannot find any documentation or insight on how it's 
*supposed* to work.

It looks to me like they moved most of the ACPI event-handling functionality 
out of the /etc/acpi scripts and into gnome-power-manager, 
guidance-power-manager, or kpowersave which listen for the events via HAL. If 
that is the case, then neither guidance nor kpowersave seem have any 
provision at all for handling brightness key events in the first place, so 
perhaps the modifications to /etc/acpi should be reverted for the brightness 
keys.

On the other hand, this could be dead wrong, in which case, somebody who knows 
how these subsystems are set up in (k)ubuntu, and/or where to find said 
information, *please* chime in.

And I tend to agree that having to be logged into your DE to change the screen 
brightness using dedicated hardware keys is... not ideal.

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Re: [Bug 145337] Re: Brightness key stopped working after update [Gutsy]

2007-10-07 Thread Kyle S
On Saturday 06 October 2007 15:18:01 Alexander Hunziker wrote:
> As of today, brightness setting fully works for me on a T60. Anyone
> confirming that?

Also on a T60 here, still not working for me (in KDE).

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[Bug 145337] Re: Brightness key stopped working after update [Gutsy]

2007-09-30 Thread Kyle S
I have the same symptoms as the OP on my up-to-date ThinkPad T60 running
Kubuntu. Brightness keys do not work even though "lshal -m",
"acpi_listen", and acpid all see them/do the right thing. No OSD from
kmilo anymore either, for anything, even volume or thinklight which work
(probably only because they are done in hardware). This all worked
several weeks ago, and has actually always worked up until then.
Guidance can still adjust the brightness with the slider.

Although it's not related directly to this bug, I tend to think it's not
coincidental that my lock (Fn-F2, used to lock the session I think, I
didn't use it much), battery (Fn-F3, which used to cause guidance-power-
manager to show it's tooltip), suspend (Fn-F4), and suspend-to-disk keys
(Fn-F12) do not work right anymore either, and broke at the same time.
Their implementations in /etc/acpi and so forth are also all similar,
only generating various fake keys (see below).

The biggest problem with my troubleshooting is that I can't
understand/find information on the big picture, how is this mechanism
supposed to work at all to begin with. I seem to remember (although
admittedly not infallibly) that the scripts in /etc/acpi used to
actually modify the brightness (and perform the other key actions)
directly thru /sys or /proc somehow. Now all they appear do is
synthesize keystrokes using acpi_fakekey. This works right too, xev for
example sees these fake keystrokes (although many of them do not have
keysyms). But, is some program supposed to receive these keystrokes and
perform the action? Or am I barking up the wrong tree? What is HAL's
role, if any, in making this work?

After the fake key generation, I lose the trail. Any clues? This is a
terrible nuisance because I use(d) these keys frequently. Being night-
blinded by your laptop is not cool :)

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Re: [Bug 145337] Re: Brightness key stopped working after update [Gutsy]

2007-10-22 Thread Kyle S
Loic Nageleisen wrote:
> my conclusion:
> - acpi stuff now only generates events and does not takes action anymore
> - gnome power manager is the only app currently able to catch these key or 
> hal events and change brightness accordingly
> - there's no app for KDE able to do that
> - there's no console app either

I agree with this, I posted a similar analysis a month or so ago. In
fact, as of a couple of days ago I began working around the problem in
KDE by shutting down guidance-power-manager and running gnome-power-manager.

If these analyses are correct, then I'm at a loss as to how it seems to
be overlooked that Kubuntu appears to have no facility for handling
brightness key events, and how the actual brightness-changing
functionality got removed from /etc/acpi/events before
guidance-power-manager (or whatever) grew a replacement for it.

> so one should:
> 1. implement this in kde power manager
> 2. implement this in a daemon listening for hal events (so that it works in 
> console mode)
> 3. make sure those cooperate so that brightness is not set multiple times for 
> one keypress

Agreed, I'd like to repeat my opinion that having to be logged into your
desktop environment to change the brightness of your LCD using
*dedicated hardware keys* is less than ideal.

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Re: [Bug 121439] Re: [Gutsy]Network Manager Applet can't connect wireless with ipw3945 driver

2007-08-02 Thread Kyle S
On Thursday 02 August 2007 17:15, yostral wrote:
> I can now (from when I could ? I don't know) connect to an wep encrypted
> network with NetworkManager, without switching the kill switch button.
> But I still need to do that with an unencrypted one.

I am also now in the same boat after dist-upgrade. Thinkpad T60 with
ipw3945.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache show linux-image-2.6.22-9-generic \
   network-manager knetworkmanager | egrep '^Ver|^Pack'
Package: linux-image-2.6.22-9-generic
Version: 2.6.22-9.21
Package: network-manager
Version: 0.6.5-0ubuntu7
Package: knetworkmanager
Version: 1:0.2~r686534-0ubuntu1

WEP networks connect fine, have to use the kill switch trick on open
ones.

Additionally, KNetworkManager is now acting funny, the first time I try to 
select a network after login, I have to tell it to connect to a particular 
network twice, the first time I select it, the icon just blinks at me and 
then continues doing whatever it was doing (either automatically connecting 
to some network I'm not interested in, or sitting there disconnected). 
Obviously this may be a separate bug, but thought I'd throw it out there.

Kyle

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Re: [Bug 145337] Re: Brightness key stopped working after update [Gutsy]

2007-11-01 Thread Kyle S
> 1. Exact HW

ThinkPad T60

> cat /var/lib/acpi-support/system-product-name

2007C3U

> 2. Does these two command (if run from Konsole) change brightness
> properly on your laptop?

Yes, they do. I get a tooltip over guidance-power-manager's kicker icon
about the brightness as well, instead of the KMilo OSD that it used to
display the last time it worked.

> 3. Does your laptop return same keycodes from brightness up (212) and
down (101)

Affirmative

> .. what does "lshal -m" report when key is pressed?

18:17:49.465: platform_i8042_i8042_KBD_port_logicaldev_input condition
ButtonPressed = brightness-up
18:17:49.848: platform_i8042_i8042_KBD_port_logicaldev_input condition
ButtonPressed = brightness-down

HTH!

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[Bug 134252] Re: alsa mixer channels missing after upgrade to linux-image-2.6.22-10-generic with Intel 82801G HDA chip

2007-08-23 Thread Kyle S
Confirming on my T60 with 82801G as well, including PCM going missing
intermittently. It works fine on -9, broken on -10. Unfortunately I am
reluctant to go back to -9 for normal use because of Very Annoying Bug
#129226 which is fixed in -10 !

One other detail: the "PC speaker" system bell noise is at normal
levels, but I can hear nothing else thru speakers or headphones.

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[Bug 121439] Re: [Gutsy]Network Manager Applet can't connect wireless with ipw3945 driver

2007-07-01 Thread Kyle S
I'm also having this problem, 2.6.22-7-generic, network-
manager_0.6.5-0ubuntu4, using ipw3945 on a thinkpad T60. On boot the
startup scripts get a connection to any open AP properly, ifup and
ifdown work fine, device names are normal (eth0 copper, eth1 wifi).
After using KNetworkManager things go "awry." There is play-by-play in
the attached logfile.

I have always had occasional random troubles with ipw3945 flying south
on Feisty (I chalk it up to that aggravating reg daemon, will be happy
when iwlwifi makes it in), but removing and re-modprobing the module has
always fixed it. This did not help in this case. RF kill does not seem
to affect it.

Also of note, the first time this happened, the link would be fine on
boot, as above, but after NM frobbed it, ip link would show it being NO-
CARRIER. I couldn't reproduce this last symptom for this report.

HTH,
Kyle

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Re: [Bug 145337] Re: Brightness key stopped working after update [Gutsy]

2007-10-02 Thread Kyle S
On Tuesday 02 October 2007 18:26:28 Thomas Sommer wrote:
> Some package have been updated.
> Now the FN-brightness keys work again.

Still not working for me in KDE land, upgraded a number of packages, last 
upgrade was less than an hour ago. Browsing the code in 
guidance-power-manager right now, there was a python indentation error in 
it's DCOP interface code for brightness control. Fixing that didn't make the 
buttons work, however, and I can't see anywhere else besides that and the 
slider controls where brightness calls to HAL are made.

So, still trying to figure it out..

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[Bug 145337] Re: Brightness key stopped working after update [Gutsy]

2007-10-04 Thread Kyle S
> ** Changed in: kdebase (Ubuntu)
>Status: New => Invalid
>
> ** Changed in: gnome-power-manager (Ubuntu)
>Status: New => Fix Released

I'd like to gently point out that the original reporter of this bug is a KDE 
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Re: [Bug 145337] Re: Brightness key stopped working after update [Gutsy]

2007-10-05 Thread Kyle S
On Friday 05 October 2007 11:22:41 der_vegi wrote:
> Yes, you're right, the marking is counter-productive. 
> [...]
> It might be a HAL bug, but as I am not too much into that stuff, I'll
> keep my fingers off marking now. ;)

Yeah it seems like we're having to speculate where the problem actually lies 
because I for one still cannot find any documentation or insight on how it's 
*supposed* to work.

It looks to me like they moved most of the ACPI event-handling functionality 
out of the /etc/acpi scripts and into gnome-power-manager, 
guidance-power-manager, or kpowersave which listen for the events via HAL. If 
that is the case, then neither guidance nor kpowersave seem have any 
provision at all for handling brightness key events in the first place, so 
perhaps the modifications to /etc/acpi should be reverted for the brightness 
keys.

On the other hand, this could be dead wrong, in which case, somebody who knows 
how these subsystems are set up in (k)ubuntu, and/or where to find said 
information, *please* chime in.

And I tend to agree that having to be logged into your DE to change the screen 
brightness using dedicated hardware keys is... not ideal.

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Re: [Bug 145337] Re: Brightness key stopped working after update [Gutsy]

2007-10-07 Thread Kyle S
On Saturday 06 October 2007 15:18:01 Alexander Hunziker wrote:
> As of today, brightness setting fully works for me on a T60. Anyone
> confirming that?

Also on a T60 here, still not working for me (in KDE).

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Re: [Bug 145337] Re: Brightness key stopped working after update [Gutsy]

2007-11-01 Thread Kyle S
> 1. Exact HW

ThinkPad T60

> cat /var/lib/acpi-support/system-product-name

2007C3U

> 2. Does these two command (if run from Konsole) change brightness
> properly on your laptop?

Yes, they do. I get a tooltip over guidance-power-manager's kicker icon
about the brightness as well, instead of the KMilo OSD that it used to
display the last time it worked.

> 3. Does your laptop return same keycodes from brightness up (212) and
down (101)

Affirmative

> .. what does "lshal -m" report when key is pressed?

18:17:49.465: platform_i8042_i8042_KBD_port_logicaldev_input condition
ButtonPressed = brightness-up
18:17:49.848: platform_i8042_i8042_KBD_port_logicaldev_input condition
ButtonPressed = brightness-down

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Re: [Bug 145337] Re: Brightness key stopped working after update [Gutsy]

2007-10-22 Thread Kyle S
Loic Nageleisen wrote:
> my conclusion:
> - acpi stuff now only generates events and does not takes action anymore
> - gnome power manager is the only app currently able to catch these key or 
> hal events and change brightness accordingly
> - there's no app for KDE able to do that
> - there's no console app either

I agree with this, I posted a similar analysis a month or so ago. In
fact, as of a couple of days ago I began working around the problem in
KDE by shutting down guidance-power-manager and running gnome-power-manager.

If these analyses are correct, then I'm at a loss as to how it seems to
be overlooked that Kubuntu appears to have no facility for handling
brightness key events, and how the actual brightness-changing
functionality got removed from /etc/acpi/events before
guidance-power-manager (or whatever) grew a replacement for it.

> so one should:
> 1. implement this in kde power manager
> 2. implement this in a daemon listening for hal events (so that it works in 
> console mode)
> 3. make sure those cooperate so that brightness is not set multiple times for 
> one keypress

Agreed, I'd like to repeat my opinion that having to be logged into your
desktop environment to change the brightness of your LCD using
*dedicated hardware keys* is less than ideal.

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[Bug 145337] Re: Brightness key stopped working after update [Gutsy]

2007-09-30 Thread Kyle S
I have the same symptoms as the OP on my up-to-date ThinkPad T60 running
Kubuntu. Brightness keys do not work even though "lshal -m",
"acpi_listen", and acpid all see them/do the right thing. No OSD from
kmilo anymore either, for anything, even volume or thinklight which work
(probably only because they are done in hardware). This all worked
several weeks ago, and has actually always worked up until then.
Guidance can still adjust the brightness with the slider.

Although it's not related directly to this bug, I tend to think it's not
coincidental that my lock (Fn-F2, used to lock the session I think, I
didn't use it much), battery (Fn-F3, which used to cause guidance-power-
manager to show it's tooltip), suspend (Fn-F4), and suspend-to-disk keys
(Fn-F12) do not work right anymore either, and broke at the same time.
Their implementations in /etc/acpi and so forth are also all similar,
only generating various fake keys (see below).

The biggest problem with my troubleshooting is that I can't
understand/find information on the big picture, how is this mechanism
supposed to work at all to begin with. I seem to remember (although
admittedly not infallibly) that the scripts in /etc/acpi used to
actually modify the brightness (and perform the other key actions)
directly thru /sys or /proc somehow. Now all they appear do is
synthesize keystrokes using acpi_fakekey. This works right too, xev for
example sees these fake keystrokes (although many of them do not have
keysyms). But, is some program supposed to receive these keystrokes and
perform the action? Or am I barking up the wrong tree? What is HAL's
role, if any, in making this work?

After the fake key generation, I lose the trail. Any clues? This is a
terrible nuisance because I use(d) these keys frequently. Being night-
blinded by your laptop is not cool :)

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[Bug 121439] Re: [Gutsy]Network Manager Applet can't connect wireless with ipw3945 driver

2007-07-01 Thread Kyle S
I'm also having this problem, 2.6.22-7-generic, network-
manager_0.6.5-0ubuntu4, using ipw3945 on a thinkpad T60. On boot the
startup scripts get a connection to any open AP properly, ifup and
ifdown work fine, device names are normal (eth0 copper, eth1 wifi).
After using KNetworkManager things go "awry." There is play-by-play in
the attached logfile.

I have always had occasional random troubles with ipw3945 flying south
on Feisty (I chalk it up to that aggravating reg daemon, will be happy
when iwlwifi makes it in), but removing and re-modprobing the module has
always fixed it. This did not help in this case. RF kill does not seem
to affect it.

Also of note, the first time this happened, the link would be fine on
boot, as above, but after NM frobbed it, ip link would show it being NO-
CARRIER. I couldn't reproduce this last symptom for this report.

HTH,
Kyle

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[Bug 121439] Re: [Gutsy]Network Manager Applet can't connect wireless with ipw3945 driver

2007-07-01 Thread Kyle S
I'm also having this problem, 2.6.22-7-generic, network-
manager_0.6.5-0ubuntu4, using ipw3945 on a thinkpad T60. On boot the
startup scripts get a connection to any open AP properly, ifup and
ifdown work fine, device names are normal (eth0 copper, eth1 wifi).
After using KNetworkManager things go "awry." There is play-by-play in
the attached logfile.

I have always had occasional random troubles with ipw3945 flying south
on Feisty (I chalk it up to that aggravating reg daemon, will be happy
when iwlwifi makes it in), but removing and re-modprobing the module has
always fixed it. This did not help in this case. RF kill does not seem
to affect it.

Also of note, the first time this happened, the link would be fine on
boot, as above, but after NM frobbed it, ip link would show it being NO-
CARRIER. I couldn't reproduce this last symptom for this report.

HTH,
Kyle

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Re: [Bug 145337] Re: Brightness key stopped working after update [Gutsy]

2007-10-02 Thread Kyle S
On Tuesday 02 October 2007 18:26:28 Thomas Sommer wrote:
> Some package have been updated.
> Now the FN-brightness keys work again.

Still not working for me in KDE land, upgraded a number of packages, last 
upgrade was less than an hour ago. Browsing the code in 
guidance-power-manager right now, there was a python indentation error in 
it's DCOP interface code for brightness control. Fixing that didn't make the 
buttons work, however, and I can't see anywhere else besides that and the 
slider controls where brightness calls to HAL are made.

So, still trying to figure it out..

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[Bug 145337] Re: Brightness key stopped working after update [Gutsy]

2007-10-04 Thread Kyle S
> ** Changed in: kdebase (Ubuntu)
>Status: New => Invalid
>
> ** Changed in: gnome-power-manager (Ubuntu)
>Status: New => Fix Released

I'd like to gently point out that the original reporter of this bug is a KDE 
user. This makes no sense at all.

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Re: [Bug 145337] Re: Brightness key stopped working after update [Gutsy]

2007-10-05 Thread Kyle S
On Friday 05 October 2007 11:22:41 der_vegi wrote:
> Yes, you're right, the marking is counter-productive. 
> [...]
> It might be a HAL bug, but as I am not too much into that stuff, I'll
> keep my fingers off marking now. ;)

Yeah it seems like we're having to speculate where the problem actually lies 
because I for one still cannot find any documentation or insight on how it's 
*supposed* to work.

It looks to me like they moved most of the ACPI event-handling functionality 
out of the /etc/acpi scripts and into gnome-power-manager, 
guidance-power-manager, or kpowersave which listen for the events via HAL. If 
that is the case, then neither guidance nor kpowersave seem have any 
provision at all for handling brightness key events in the first place, so 
perhaps the modifications to /etc/acpi should be reverted for the brightness 
keys.

On the other hand, this could be dead wrong, in which case, somebody who knows 
how these subsystems are set up in (k)ubuntu, and/or where to find said 
information, *please* chime in.

And I tend to agree that having to be logged into your DE to change the screen 
brightness using dedicated hardware keys is... not ideal.

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Re: [Bug 145337] Re: Brightness key stopped working after update [Gutsy]

2007-10-07 Thread Kyle S
On Saturday 06 October 2007 15:18:01 Alexander Hunziker wrote:
> As of today, brightness setting fully works for me on a T60. Anyone
> confirming that?

Also on a T60 here, still not working for me (in KDE).

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[Bug 145337] Re: Brightness key stopped working after update [Gutsy]

2007-09-30 Thread Kyle S
I have the same symptoms as the OP on my up-to-date ThinkPad T60 running
Kubuntu. Brightness keys do not work even though "lshal -m",
"acpi_listen", and acpid all see them/do the right thing. No OSD from
kmilo anymore either, for anything, even volume or thinklight which work
(probably only because they are done in hardware). This all worked
several weeks ago, and has actually always worked up until then.
Guidance can still adjust the brightness with the slider.

Although it's not related directly to this bug, I tend to think it's not
coincidental that my lock (Fn-F2, used to lock the session I think, I
didn't use it much), battery (Fn-F3, which used to cause guidance-power-
manager to show it's tooltip), suspend (Fn-F4), and suspend-to-disk keys
(Fn-F12) do not work right anymore either, and broke at the same time.
Their implementations in /etc/acpi and so forth are also all similar,
only generating various fake keys (see below).

The biggest problem with my troubleshooting is that I can't
understand/find information on the big picture, how is this mechanism
supposed to work at all to begin with. I seem to remember (although
admittedly not infallibly) that the scripts in /etc/acpi used to
actually modify the brightness (and perform the other key actions)
directly thru /sys or /proc somehow. Now all they appear do is
synthesize keystrokes using acpi_fakekey. This works right too, xev for
example sees these fake keystrokes (although many of them do not have
keysyms). But, is some program supposed to receive these keystrokes and
perform the action? Or am I barking up the wrong tree? What is HAL's
role, if any, in making this work?

After the fake key generation, I lose the trail. Any clues? This is a
terrible nuisance because I use(d) these keys frequently. Being night-
blinded by your laptop is not cool :)

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Re: [Bug 121439] Re: [Gutsy]Network Manager Applet can't connect wireless with ipw3945 driver

2007-08-02 Thread Kyle S
On Thursday 02 August 2007 17:15, yostral wrote:
> I can now (from when I could ? I don't know) connect to an wep encrypted
> network with NetworkManager, without switching the kill switch button.
> But I still need to do that with an unencrypted one.

I am also now in the same boat after dist-upgrade. Thinkpad T60 with
ipw3945.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache show linux-image-2.6.22-9-generic \
   network-manager knetworkmanager | egrep '^Ver|^Pack'
Package: linux-image-2.6.22-9-generic
Version: 2.6.22-9.21
Package: network-manager
Version: 0.6.5-0ubuntu7
Package: knetworkmanager
Version: 1:0.2~r686534-0ubuntu1

WEP networks connect fine, have to use the kill switch trick on open
ones.

Additionally, KNetworkManager is now acting funny, the first time I try to 
select a network after login, I have to tell it to connect to a particular 
network twice, the first time I select it, the icon just blinks at me and 
then continues doing whatever it was doing (either automatically connecting 
to some network I'm not interested in, or sitting there disconnected). 
Obviously this may be a separate bug, but thought I'd throw it out there.

Kyle

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[Bug 134252] Re: alsa mixer channels missing after upgrade to linux-image-2.6.22-10-generic with Intel 82801G HDA chip

2007-08-23 Thread Kyle S
Confirming on my T60 with 82801G as well, including PCM going missing
intermittently. It works fine on -9, broken on -10. Unfortunately I am
reluctant to go back to -9 for normal use because of Very Annoying Bug
#129226 which is fixed in -10 !

One other detail: the "PC speaker" system bell noise is at normal
levels, but I can hear nothing else thru speakers or headphones.

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Re: [Bug 145337] Re: Brightness key stopped working after update [Gutsy]

2007-10-22 Thread Kyle S
Loic Nageleisen wrote:
> my conclusion:
> - acpi stuff now only generates events and does not takes action anymore
> - gnome power manager is the only app currently able to catch these key or 
> hal events and change brightness accordingly
> - there's no app for KDE able to do that
> - there's no console app either

I agree with this, I posted a similar analysis a month or so ago. In
fact, as of a couple of days ago I began working around the problem in
KDE by shutting down guidance-power-manager and running gnome-power-manager.

If these analyses are correct, then I'm at a loss as to how it seems to
be overlooked that Kubuntu appears to have no facility for handling
brightness key events, and how the actual brightness-changing
functionality got removed from /etc/acpi/events before
guidance-power-manager (or whatever) grew a replacement for it.

> so one should:
> 1. implement this in kde power manager
> 2. implement this in a daemon listening for hal events (so that it works in 
> console mode)
> 3. make sure those cooperate so that brightness is not set multiple times for 
> one keypress

Agreed, I'd like to repeat my opinion that having to be logged into your
desktop environment to change the brightness of your LCD using
*dedicated hardware keys* is less than ideal.

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Re: [Bug 145337] Re: Brightness key stopped working after update [Gutsy]

2007-11-01 Thread Kyle S
> 1. Exact HW

ThinkPad T60

> cat /var/lib/acpi-support/system-product-name

2007C3U

> 2. Does these two command (if run from Konsole) change brightness
> properly on your laptop?

Yes, they do. I get a tooltip over guidance-power-manager's kicker icon
about the brightness as well, instead of the KMilo OSD that it used to
display the last time it worked.

> 3. Does your laptop return same keycodes from brightness up (212) and
down (101)

Affirmative

> .. what does "lshal -m" report when key is pressed?

18:17:49.465: platform_i8042_i8042_KBD_port_logicaldev_input condition
ButtonPressed = brightness-up
18:17:49.848: platform_i8042_i8042_KBD_port_logicaldev_input condition
ButtonPressed = brightness-down

HTH!

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