Re: [Bug 1674330] [NEW] Please consider dropping /etc/network/if-up.d/openssh-server
On Sat, 25 Mar 2017 09:57:26 - Colin Watson
<cjwat...@canonical.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 05:14:07PM -0000, Perry E. Metzger wrote:
> > And it isn't a "hack", this is exactly what ifup/down scripts are
> > for.
>
> They're useful for giving sysadmins the flexibility to do this sort
> of thing locally without too much work, but doing service restarts
> on if-{up,down} is an awfully big hammer that's generally better
> handled some other way if possible.
So why don't you get a laptop and try it out? Using a virtual machine
will not tell you what the behavior is if the network address is
forcibly changed on the machine, and there are other confounding
circumstances here like loss of network carrier when you change
location etc. (It may be possible to conduct a principled experiment
with virtual machines but it will not be particularly easy.)
You will have to make sure that the daemon continues to permit remote
logins on every new address it acquires.
> Not being the maintainer and not using Ubuntu any more, you might be
> unaware of how much work this hack has been to maintain over the
> years.
Many things are unpleasant to maintain but provide necessary
functionality. Again, what you should do is conduct an actual test.
Perry
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Re: [Bug 103436] Re: sshd not reconfigured by /etc/network
On Mon, 20 Mar 2017 13:18:54 - Martin Pitt <martin.p...@ubuntu.com> wrote: > Perry, I just revisited this: That bug report was a decade ago. So far as I know, this is still an issue for your users, because sshd does not, on its own, change its network address when one changes networks. I would not remove this because if you remove it you're going to harm anyone who changes addresses frequently. However, I have not used Ubuntu in many years (this is 2017, the bug report was 2007) and I am no longer in a position to help you. Perry -- Perry E. Metzgerpe...@piermont.com -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/103436 Title: sshd not reconfigured by /etc/network To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssh/+bug/103436/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 1674330] [NEW] Please consider dropping /etc/network/if-up.d/openssh-server
On Mon, 20 Mar 2017 13:26:35 - Launchpad Bug Tracker <1674...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote: > You have been subscribed to a public bug by Martin Pitt (pitti): > > The /etc/network/if-up.d/openssh-server hack was introduced ten > years ago [1] as a response to bug 103436. At least from today's > perspective this isn't justified: > > I can't seem to be able to actually reproduce that issue: I can > start a VM with no network interfaces, remove the above hack, then > start sshd, then bring up an ethernet interface, and I can connect > to ssh via ethernet just fine. sshd has no internal support to open and close listening addresses on its own, so I suspect you're wrong. Why don't you try the actual use case, which is changing addresses rather than an initial open. However, I haven't used ubuntu in at least eight years and have no way to help you. > Also, e. g. Fedora has no > counterpart of this hack, and these days a lot of people would > complain if that would cause problems, How many people regularly ssh into their laptops on multiple networks? I would guess very few. > The hack introduces a race: you run into connection errors after > bringing up a new interface as sshd stops listening briefly while > being reloaded. Well, yah, but when you change networks you're also not listening to the network. This isn't a race, this is just expected behavior. Even if sshd did this on its own this would happen. And it isn't a "hack", this is exactly what ifup/down scripts are for. Perry -- Perry E. Metzgerpe...@piermont.com -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1674330 Title: Please consider dropping /etc/network/if-up.d/openssh-server To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssh/+bug/1674330/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 110992] Re: ipmi modules need to manually inserted and device created
Dave Walker davewal...@ubuntu.com writes: Can this bug be reproduced on Lucid? I'm not running Lucid yet. However, you can check if the defect is there just by reading a couple of files, you don't need to ask anyone to reproduce it. Perry -- Perry E. Metzgerpe...@piermont.com -- ipmi modules need to manually inserted and device created https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/110992 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is a direct subscriber. -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
Re: [Bug 110992] Re: ipmi modules need to manually inserted and device created
Dave Walker davewal...@ubuntu.com writes: Can this bug be reproduced on Lucid? I'm not running Lucid yet. However, you can check if the defect is there just by reading a couple of files, you don't need to ask anyone to reproduce it. Perry -- Perry E. Metzgerpe...@piermont.com -- ipmi modules need to manually inserted and device created https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/110992 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 120199] Re: ntp daemon not reconfigured by /etc/network
At this point I'm unsubscribing from the bug report. I no longer know, or care, if the problem is still extant. Maybe it is and maybe it isn't, but after a couple of years of the bug living in limbo I've ceased to care, and I'm no longer running an Ubuntu laptop. -- ntp daemon not reconfigured by /etc/network https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/120199 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to ntp in ubuntu. -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 110992] Re: ipmi modules need to manually inserted and device created
One would imagine that this bug could have been fixed any time in the last couple of years. It would require editing a couple of files on the part of one of the maintainers. Is there a good reason this has not been completed? -- ipmi modules need to manually inserted and device created https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/110992 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is a direct subscriber. -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 104525] Re: default ntp.conf should use pool.ntp.org servers
I've unsubscribed from the bug report. It could have been fixed in a few minutes one way or another at any time over the last few years but no one did, which is a sad commentary on the management of the project. Anyway, after years of this bug report remaining in limbo I've ceased to care what happens. -- default ntp.conf should use pool.ntp.org servers https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/104525 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to ntp in ubuntu. -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 120199] Re: ntp daemon not reconfigured by /etc/network
At this point I'm unsubscribing from the bug report. I no longer know, or care, if the problem is still extant. Maybe it is and maybe it isn't, but after a couple of years of the bug living in limbo I've ceased to care, and I'm no longer running an Ubuntu laptop. -- ntp daemon not reconfigured by /etc/network https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/120199 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 110992] Re: ipmi modules need to manually inserted and device created
One would imagine that this bug could have been fixed any time in the last couple of years. It would require editing a couple of files on the part of one of the maintainers. Is there a good reason this has not been completed? -- ipmi modules need to manually inserted and device created https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/110992 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 104525] Re: default ntp.conf should use pool.ntp.org servers
I've unsubscribed from the bug report. It could have been fixed in a few minutes one way or another at any time over the last few years but no one did, which is a sad commentary on the management of the project. Anyway, after years of this bug report remaining in limbo I've ceased to care what happens. -- default ntp.conf should use pool.ntp.org servers https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/104525 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 88746] Re: ehci_hcd module causes I/O errors in USB 2.0 devices
rna r...@horobi.com writes: Perry E. Metzger wrote on 2009-09-14: No it isn't. Other operating systems don't have the problem. Chip has bug, but the workaround there, the patch said. Whether other OSes have workarounds or whether the bug is purely in the software, the effect on the end user is the same, and it is unreasonable to tell the user that it is their problem. Perry -- ehci_hcd module causes I/O errors in USB 2.0 devices https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/88746 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 88746] Re: ehci_hcd module causes I/O errors in USB 2.0 devices
rna r...@horobi.com writes: This is a bug of chipset. No it isn't. Other operating systems don't have the problem. Perry -- ehci_hcd module causes I/O errors in USB 2.0 devices https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/88746 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 88746] Re: ehci_hcd module causes I/O errors in USB 2.0 devices
Mike.lifeguard mike.lifegu...@gmail.com writes: This bug report, and comments on it, are for solving a technical issue. If your comment doesn't directly further that goal, then it doesn't belong here. It does further the goal -- it makes people aware of the fact that a critical bug has been left untouched for years. Please note that every me too and why isn't this fixed yet spams many people's inboxes with these useless messages. They're only useless if you believe the problem should be ignored. Perry -- Perry E. Metzgerpe...@piermont.com -- ehci_hcd module causes I/O errors in USB 2.0 devices https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/88746 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 88746] Re: ehci_hcd module causes I/O errors in USB 2.0 devices
chiacchio chiacc...@gmail.com writes: 2009/7/28 markofealing m...@ferns16.plus.com I really can't believe that this has not been fixed, I mean USB 2.0 is THE way of connecting devices to PCs these days. Come on guys, sort out your priorities. It's stupid bugs like this which return Ubuntu users back to the dark side. If Linux is every to gain market share then this sort of bug really needs to be fixed quickly, and that means with six months, not two plus years (and still waiting)!! I agree with you Marko. You expressed exactly what I think... I've been saying this for a long time, but it seems like the concern level among those in a position to work on this is limited. Perry -- ehci_hcd module causes I/O errors in USB 2.0 devices https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/88746 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 229556] Re: Problems with CD/DVD drive on IBM Thinkpad T41 under Hardy
kernel-janitor le...@canonical.com writes: This bug report was marked as Incomplete and has not had any updated comments for quite some time. As a result this bug is being closed. Please reopen if this is still an issue in the current Ubuntu release http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download . It is still a problem but I have little hope of it being fixed. -- Problems with CD/DVD drive on IBM Thinkpad T41 under Hardy https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/229556 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 189398] Re: Cisco Aironet stopped working in Hardy
mira meerajpa...@yahoo.com writes: I had the similar problem happened just today and i really need help with it. If some body knows anything, please let me know. I tried to install wireless driver on my Ubuntu 8.04 since it is not able to configure the internal wireless card, i tried to use Trendnet TEW-424ub and my booting hangs with this wornning. Error inserting padlock_aes (/lib/modules/2.6.24-5-generic/kernel/drivers/crypto/padlock-aes.ko): No such device This doesn't look like the same problem. You should file a new bug report. Perry -- Cisco Aironet stopped working in Hardy https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/189398 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 88746] Re: ehci_hcd module causes I/O errors in USB 2.0 devices
Stefano_PG slot...@libero.it writes: Maybe it is: if you read all the posts you will find USB devices Maybe doesn't work really well when you're diagnosing a bug. There isn't an a priori reason to expect these are the same problem. One of the issues with this bug report has been that everyone with a USB problem has tossed in a report onto this -- there's a massive smog that makes it hard for people to figure out what is actually going on. Perry -- Perry E. Metzgerpe...@piermont.com -- ehci_hcd module causes I/O errors in USB 2.0 devices https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/88746 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 88746] Re: ehci_hcd module causes I/O errors in USB 2.0 devices
Stefano_PG slot...@libero.it writes: Today I noticed that my VIA based PCI controller seems to be affected by this bug too. It always runs well, but if I plug more than one device the controller resets. That's not the same bug. Perry -- ehci_hcd module causes I/O errors in USB 2.0 devices https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/88746 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 88746] Re: ehci_hcd module causes I/O errors in USB 2.0 devices
btanoue btan...@hotmail.com writes: I recently found a new work-around that works for my system. I stumbled on this by accident. I ran out of USB ports on my desktop box, and purchased a CyberPower (Powered USB Hub) off Buy.com. This is not a new work around. There are others earlier in the error history who note that this can work. I'm thinking its a cheap and easy solution while waiting for a bug fix in the kernel. After all these years, one has serious doubts that anyone cares enough to fix the problem. Perry -- ehci_hcd module causes I/O errors in USB 2.0 devices https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/88746 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 291760] Re: network-manager roams to (none) ((none))
dhd dhugg...@cs.cmu.edu writes: I'm really amazed that the upstream developers are either not aware or don't want to fix this! I filed a bug report. So far, it appears to have been rigorously ignored. I'm still hoping. -- Perry E. Metzgerpe...@piermont.com -- network-manager roams to (none) ((none)) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/291760 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 291760] Re: network-manager roams to (none) ((none))
Steve Conklin steve.conk...@canonical.com writes: This doesn't appear to be a problem with any particular driver, so I'm removing it from kernel bugs Well, it might still prove to be a misdesign in the kernel interface to wireless drivers in general. Perry -- network-manager roams to (none) ((none)) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/291760 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 291760] Re: network-manager roams to (none) ((none))
Howard Chu h...@symas.com writes: Interesting. Is that WPA with a Pre-Shared Key? I use WPA/EAP and obviously had the problem. Haven't tried WPA2 at all. My bad behavior is easily reproduced on a WEP network. I think it happens regardless of the type of encryption in use. -- Perry E. Metzgerpe...@piermont.com -- network-manager roams to (none) ((none)) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/291760 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 291760] Re: network-manager roams to (none) ((none))
Alexander Sack a...@jwsdot.com writes: No. Opening the menu only shows you the results of the last scan, whenever that was. It doesn't initiate a scan. But the problem is that you cannot look in the menu to connect to a new AP because that list is outdated or non-existing. This feels kind of a regression to me. I think not having your network function is a bit more of a regression. Clearly there are a number of issues in NetworkManager, of course. -- Perry E. Metzgerpe...@piermont.com -- network-manager roams to (none) ((none)) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/291760 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 291760] Re: network-manager roams to (none) ((none))
Alexander Jones a...@weej.com writes: Regardless of whether I am connected or not, when I open the NM menu to see broadcast networks, it is going to have to scan then, right? No, not necessarily. Perry -- network-manager roams to (none) ((none)) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/291760 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 291760] Re: network-manager roams to (none) ((none))
dhd dhugg...@cs.cmu.edu writes: Hi, unfortunately, this patch does not entirely fix my problem. I'm seeing roaming to (none) ((none)) less frequently, but it is still happening. Likewise I still have between 10 and 45% packet loss due to gratuitous roaming every 3-10 seconds. Another example: You would seem to be experiencing a different bug. Perry May 1 13:43:01 slim NetworkManager: info (eth1): supplicant connection state change: 7 - 3 May 1 13:43:01 slim NetworkManager: info (eth1): supplicant connection state change: 3 - 0 May 1 13:43:02 slim NetworkManager: debug [1241199782.528337] periodic_update(): Roamed from BSSID 00:1A:1E:93:71:E0 (CMU) to (none) ((none)) May 1 13:43:02 slim NetworkManager: info (eth1): supplicant connection state change: 0 - 4 May 1 13:43:02 slim NetworkManager: info (eth1): supplicant connection state change: 4 - 7 May 1 13:43:06 slim NetworkManager: info (eth1): supplicant connection state change: 7 - 3 May 1 13:43:06 slim NetworkManager: info (eth1): supplicant connection state change: 3 - 0 May 1 13:43:08 slim NetworkManager: info (eth1): supplicant connection state change: 0 - 4 May 1 13:43:08 slim NetworkManager: info (eth1): supplicant connection state change: 4 - 7 May 1 13:43:08 slim NetworkManager: debug [1241199788.532516] periodic_update(): Roamed from BSSID (none) ((none)) to 00:1A:1E:93:71:40 (CMU) May 1 13:43:11 slim NetworkManager: info (eth1): supplicant connection state change: 7 - 3 May 1 13:43:11 slim NetworkManager: info (eth1): supplicant connection state change: 3 - 0 May 1 13:43:14 slim NetworkManager: debug [1241199794.536253] periodic_update(): Roamed from BSSID 00:1A:1E:93:71:40 (CMU) to (none) ((none)) As before this is ipw2100. -- Perry E. Metzgerpe...@piermont.com -- network-manager roams to (none) ((none)) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/291760 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 291760] Re: network-manager roams to (none) ((none))
dhd dhugg...@cs.cmu.edu writes: Thanks, that's really helpful. Maybe someone should change the title of the bug, then, because I'm certainly still experiencing something which could be described as network-manager roams to (none) ((none)). Yes, but it is not the same bug that everyone else is describing. It has *similar* symptoms, I'll fully agree, but not *identical* symptoms. -- Perry E. Metzgerpe...@piermont.com -- network-manager roams to (none) ((none)) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/291760 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 291760] Re: network-manager roams to (none) ((none))
I would suggest that people may also want to complain here: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=580185 I opened that bug report up with the gnome Bugzilla a little while ago. Howard Chu h...@symas.com writes: So despite the broad cross-section of drivers being affected, Dan Williams on the networkmanager team still thinks this is a driver bug, and still thinks that periodic scanning is a good thing (completely ignoring the network lag it causes whenever a scan is done). See his followup: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/networkmanager-list/2009-April/msg00301.html He might or may not be right that it is a driver bug, but unless he's willing to fix the bug I suggest that Ubuntu simply restore the old behavior with your patch. I've been running it for a while and it essentially brought my machine back from the dead. As I already stated in my previous message on the list, I've already spent as much time as I can afford on this, and I prefer the behavior with my patch to a NM that continues to invoke useless scans. As do I, my machine is now working again. Perry -- Perry E. Metzgerpe...@piermont.com -- network-manager roams to (none) ((none)) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/291760 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 291760] Re: network-manager roams to (none) ((none))
** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #580185 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=580185 -- network-manager roams to (none) ((none)) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/291760 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 291760] Re: network-manager roams to (none) ((none))
LuisMondesi lem...@gmail.com writes: I got this same issue on an OQO model 02 with Jaunty I don't see that from your dmesgs at all. At the very least, you haven't shown us the critical dmesgs. In any case, does applying the patch fix things for you? If not, you have a different problem, because I'm 100% certain that the problem is what the patch is dealing with. Perry -- network-manager roams to (none) ((none)) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/291760 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 120199] Re: ntp daemon not reconfigured by /etc/network
Steve Langasek steve.langa...@canonical.com writes: I'm unclear about the meaning of your last message. How is ntp being told to aim at different NTP servers if you /do/ restart it? The default, static configuration shipped with the ntp package always points to ntp.ubuntu.com; how do you have ntp configured such that restarting the process makes a difference in where it's syncing to? As just one obvious answer, consider dhcp getting a new ntp server -- you do realize that dhcp changes your configured ntp servers, right? -- although it appears this has gone on so long that the dhcp exit hooks from Jaunty now seem restart the ntp server (as you would know if you looked into this.) Consider also that ntpd did not traditionally notice that interfaces had come and gone and thus would not have any ability to talk to the ntp server if it was not restarted, although again, the ntpd shipped with Jaunty does this correctly. This and more is explained well enough in the bug report for someone who understands the underlying problem. Anyway, all of this remains an issue on Hardy and possibly on Intrepd, but as I no longer run any such boxes I no longer care. It might still be an issue on Jaunty for some corner cases but I haven't been paying attention -- Jaunty is too new, and given how long it has been I haven't even looked at all the scripts currently involved -- nothing quite like having a bug report ignored for this long. Perry -- Perry E. Metzgerpe...@piermont.com -- ntp daemon not reconfigured by /etc/network https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/120199 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 291760] Re: network-manager roams to (none) ((none))
** Changed in: network-manager (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete = Confirmed -- network-manager roams to (none) ((none)) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/291760 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 291760] Re: network-manager roams to (none) ((none))
I can confirm that the patch Howard Chu has posted to NetworkManager eliminates the bad behavior for me. I'm no longer getting disconnected every 120 seconds and the network is far more usable as a result. -- network-manager roams to (none) ((none)) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/291760 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 220628] Re: [MASTER] firefox-3.0b5 received an X Window System error: 'BadIDChoice'
A version of the fixes to libxcb for Intrepid would be highly appreciated. Anyone have a patched package for me to test out? -- [MASTER] firefox-3.0b5 received an X Window System error: 'BadIDChoice' https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/220628 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 110992] Re: ipmi modules need to manually inserted and device created
The problem is straightforward to see and is easy to confirm. ** Changed in: ipmitool (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete = Confirmed -- ipmi modules need to manually inserted and device created https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/110992 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is a direct subscriber. -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 110992] Re: ipmi modules need to manually inserted and device created
The problem is straightforward to see and is easy to confirm. ** Changed in: ipmitool (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete = Confirmed -- ipmi modules need to manually inserted and device created https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/110992 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 89591] Re: Please package Amarok Rio Karma support (--with-libkarma)
Way to go with the sensitive treatment of the community, Jon Thomas! People sit around waiting for a couple of years for a support issue to be fixed for their hardware, limping along when things could Just Work with minimal effort. Therefore, the right thing is to say to yourself oh, the new release doesn't support your hardware anyway, HAHAHAHAH LOSERS! I'm closing your bug report. That's another one closed for me today! SCORE! I WIN YOU SUCKERS! Do you ask would people still want 1.4 around so they could use their Karmas still? No. Did you even apologize for the fact that a trivial thing was left untouched for a couple of YEARS when it could have been fixed quickly and would have made people happy? No. Do you acknowledge the work people put in to make it easy for the support to be added, the work no one bothered to pay attention to? No. Instead we get your wonderful example of public relations, lets see if I can quote this accurately, it is so long: Amarok 2.0 no longer supports Rio Karma, so closing. You even managed to save a few words by not using proper English grammar, thus speeding your way through your day. Must be a great feeling, getting another bug report closed without even having to write one complete grammatical sentence! *THAT* is truly the most important thing. Remember to put the notch in the belt! -- Please package Amarok Rio Karma support (--with-libkarma) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/89591 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 89591] Re: Please package Amarok Rio Karma support (--with-libkarma)
Jonathan Thomas echidna...@kubuntu.org writes: Amarok 2.0 no longer supports Rio Karma, so closing. You know, in addition to the quality of your prose, I've gone over the Amarok web site and I've been unable to find evidence that they dumped Karma support. Not that (as I've noted) any of that probably matters to you. -- Please package Amarok Rio Karma support (--with-libkarma) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/89591 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to amarok in ubuntu. -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-b...@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 89591] Re: Please package Amarok Rio Karma support (--with-libkarma)
Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@gmail.com writes: Perry: Please cool down. Jonathan is handling a few hundred bugs a day sometimes. So? And the Kubuntu team has limited resources which need to be used wisely. Would you rather have a new package/a fixed bug or him spending a lot of time on a reply in a bugreport? I think the criterion here seems to be if we close the bug report, we've succeeded, because that is as good as a fixed bug rather than if we've fixed the problem users are experiencing, we've succeeded. This is a twisted criterion. And yes, I'd rather have fewer packages that were properly maintained with care and consideration for the users than some mechanical figure of merit being met. Ubuntu has greatly disappointed me in this regard across the board. It is not enough to claim you want great user experience -- you actually have to deliver, and part of deliver means don't leave a bug report to rot for two years and then close it with an abrupt who cares. The we're understaffed excuse doesn't make people feel better about the slap. Perry -- Please package Amarok Rio Karma support (--with-libkarma) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/89591 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to amarok in ubuntu. -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-b...@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 89591] Re: Please package Amarok Rio Karma support (--with-libkarma)
Jonathan Thomas echidna...@kubuntu.org writes: See the last comment here: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=132713 Note the URL doesn't claim that it is policy not to support the Karma, just that the work hasn't been done yet. Lets forget that, though. There's a much deeper problem. Responding to someone who feels slighted at the short shrift you've given them with a second one-liner shows an unique sense of style. Remind me to recommend you for a job in public relations. Oh wait! -- slaps thigh -- you already have one. When you do stuff like this, it reflects on the whole project. Every Ubuntu release breaks my existing hardware worse, and in each case it is a known bug, sometimes known for years. In other cases, I've been waiting for years for simple bug reports to be dealt with only to have them closed with some unresponsive message from a person who clearly dealt with 300 other bugs that same day and might not even understand the original issue. Project management clearly does not understand that if you intend to have people think your product is high quality, you cannot pretend closing bug reports equals fixing bugs. Perry -- Please package Amarok Rio Karma support (--with-libkarma) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/89591 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to amarok in ubuntu. -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-b...@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 88746] Re: ehci_hcd module causes I/O errors in USB 2.0 devices
Troy James Sobotka [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Editorial Alert Finally, I'd add that those who are disillusioned with Free Software I'm not disillusioned with free software. I'm being forced to switch from Ubuntu. There is a difference between being disillusioned with free software and having your laptop unable to work as a result of software upgrades, forcing you to switch to another OS. Perry -- ehci_hcd module causes I/O errors in USB 2.0 devices https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/88746 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 88746] Re: ehci_hcd module causes I/O errors in USB 2.0 devices
Troy James Sobotka [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am wondering if there is anything we can do collectively to help this along? I think no one is looking at it. The first step would have to be to get someone at Canonical to pay active attention to the problem and take responsibility for having it fixed. Until then there is no point. Perry -- ehci_hcd module causes I/O errors in USB 2.0 devices https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/88746 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 88746] Re: ehci_hcd module causes I/O errors in USB 2.0 devices
zasq [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does someone know if the problem will be fixed soon? I don't know for sure, but my strong suspicion is that no one who is in a position to fix the problem has any intention of ever working on it. This report has been open for a long time and nothing much has happened. I see no reason to believe a fix will ever happen. A non-charitable reading would be that apathy has taken hold. A charitable one (which I think might be more accurate) is that Canonical is resource limited and is now far beyond its capacity to cope with bug reports, which become more numerous as the popularity of Ubuntu grows. I would, of course, be very pleased to be proven wrong, but I fear I won't be. As it stands, my Ubuntu laptop, which worked fine a few releases ago, is suffering from multiple crippling bugs, all of which have long standing open bug reports confirmed by multiple sources, all of which have been ignored much like this one. I can no longer use it terribly effectively -- USB is failing, my wireless card will not recover from sleep without a reboot and stops working for several seconds every couple of minutes, etc -- and I'm soon going to to have to abandon Ubuntu in order to be able to use my laptop again. It is a great shame, but it appears that, as it stands, Ubuntu is slowly falling apart, apparently because its popularity has strained the limited support resources beyond the breaking point. Perhaps this is a lesson in how a distribution like this can or cannot be managed in a scalable fashion. Perry -- ehci_hcd module causes I/O errors in USB 2.0 devices https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/88746 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 88746] Re: ehci_hcd module causes I/O errors in USB 2.0 devices
ph3ar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My issue has been solved with this trick taken from https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udev/+bug/221983 ** Attachment added: usb_no_key_bug? http://launchpadlibrarian.net/19579922/usb_no_key_bug%3F This looks utterly unrelated to the problem most people have had in which specifically USB 2.0 devices fail and a driver downgrade makes them work. Perry -- ehci_hcd module causes I/O errors in USB 2.0 devices https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/88746 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 88746] Re: ehci_hcd module causes I/O errors in USB 2.0 devices
Toby Dickenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A note for those who are dissatisfied with the progress on this bug. It seems likely that these usb problems could actually be caused by numerous different glitches in different usb controllers or devices. No, that's not the issue. The problem is that a deliberate choice was made to wreck lots of people's USB controllers on the basis that we weren't important enough to care about. Don't expect one single fix to address all these problems simultaneously; NetBSD and FreeBSD deal with these controllers just fine. I happen to be unfortunate enough to want to run Ubuntu however. I want to emphasize: this is not some sort of problem that is poorly understood and caused by buggy hardware. It is well understood and being ignored. It is the same situation seen on the release of windows vista, where the minor differences between xp and vista exposed similar device bugs which sent vendors scurrying to produce driver updates. That's not even a remotely apt analogy. Among other things, this bug has been around since before the release of Vista and no one intends to fix it. Perry -- Perry E. Metzger[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ehci_hcd module causes I/O errors in USB 2.0 devices https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/88746 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 88746] Re: ehci_hcd module causes I/O errors in USB 2.0 devices
TheBigT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here is another confirmation that things are as horrible as they ever were after an update to Intrepid RC. Same here. Nothing has changed, and given how little attention has been paid so far, I doubt this bug will ever be fixed. -- ehci_hcd module causes I/O errors in USB 2.0 devices https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/88746 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 88746] Re: ehci_hcd module causes I/O errors in USB 2.0 devices
alexsott [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Could someone confirm if this is the same/related issue: I am getting indefinite flood of messages like this: Jun 14 14:03:12 q kernel: [ 1351.951271] usb 1-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 96 Jun 14 14:03:12 q kernel: [ 1352.102899] usb 1-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 97 Jun 14 14:03:13 q kernel: [ 1352.254214] usb 1-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 98 Jun 14 14:03:13 q kernel: [ 1352.405066] usb 1-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 99 Same issue. -- Perry E. Metzger[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ehci_hcd module causes I/O errors in USB 2.0 devices https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/88746 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 189398] Re: Cisco Aironet stopped working in Hardy
Thomas Hood [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The aironet card on my ThinkPad T30 works fine with the new kernel. But did you have the problem before? -- Cisco Aironet stopped working in Hardy https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/189398 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 88746] Re: ehci_hcd module causes I/O errors in USB 2.0 devices
Bug Watch Updater [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ** Changed in: linux Status: Incomplete = Invalid What!?!?!? Why was this changed to Invalid? It hits me almost every day! Perry -- ehci_hcd module causes I/O errors in USB 2.0 devices https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/88746 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 88746] Re: ehci_hcd module causes I/O errors in USB 2.0 devices
TDB [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hey! Invalid? It's BROKEN!!! Not to mention that hundreds of people have had the problem, and a dozen duplicate problem reports got merged into this one. Perry -- ehci_hcd module causes I/O errors in USB 2.0 devices https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/88746 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 120199] Re: ntp daemon not reconfigured by /etc/network
mouz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The problem is present on: - dapper: yes - feisty: yes - gutsy: no - hardy: no - intrepid: no What do you mean by the problem is not present -- what restarts ntpd on gutsy or hardy? I still had this issue on Hardy when I last checked -- I manually installed scripts so that when the network changes ntp reinitializes. Can you tell me how you claim this happens on hardy and intrepid without scripts? Perry -- ntp daemon not reconfigured by /etc/network https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/120199 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 120199] Re: ntp daemon not reconfigured by /etc/network
mouz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: By 'the problem is not present' I mean the following: - prepare a KVM guest with the wanted release - install the ntp package on the guest - set the clock a minute backwards on the guest - force the network to change using the DHCP server on the KVM host - observe ntpd listening on the new address (can take a few minutes) - observe the time being synchronized The ntp daemon will not learn that it is supposed to aim at different NTP servers, so it doesn't matter that it is listening on the new address. I do not observe the time re-synchronizing itself under these circumstances. In fact, I observe it getting significantly off, which is quite irritating and the reason I figured out there was a problem in the first place. Perry -- Perry E. Metzger[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ntp daemon not reconfigured by /etc/network https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/120199 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 120199] Re: ntp daemon not reconfigured by /etc/network
Hew McLachlan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We are closing this bug report because it lacks the information we need to investigate the problem, as described in the previous comments. I don't see what you are talking about. The information is all there. Please reopen it if you can give us the missing information, I'm reopening it now. There is no more missing information needed. And may I say that closing bug reports without actually paying attention to them is not socially responsible. Perry ** Changed in: ntp (Ubuntu) Status: Invalid = New -- ntp daemon not reconfigured by /etc/network https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/120199 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 120199] Re: ntp daemon not reconfigured by /etc/network
Pardon my frustration here. I feel as though I'm talking to a clerk at the DMV who is insisting that my paperwork isn't in order. It is starting to make me write in a manner that is perhaps more angry than is appropriate, but it feels like I'm talking to a wall. The goal here should not be to close bug reports without understanding them. The goal should be to fix the problem, which is simple and straightforward. Hew McLachlan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1) What version of Ubuntu was the bug reported on? Feisty? 2) Have you tested using the latest release of Ubuntu, Hardy Heron? This has a newer version of ntp, which may have solved your problem. It doesn't solve it. I've already explained that earlier in the bug report. If you had read the bug report and understood how ntpd works this would not be something you would be asking. 3) Your bug description states that the solution is to remove certain lines from certain files, but these files do not exist in the latest version of ntp. Yes, I know that. The files are scripts that are executed when the system comes out of sleep or hibernate. They can be set to restart ntpd which is the the appropriate action. By removing those files the situation has been made worse rather than better -- the bug is not gone simply because the scripts have been entirely removed rather than simply rendered useless as they were before. Restoring them with appropriate settings so ntpd restarts when a machine comes out of sleep is the correct thing to do. To repeat, the issue is that ntpd is not a program that understands the idea of a machine, like a laptop, hibernating for some period of time and then re-appearing on an entirely different network. Simply restarting the daemon will cause it to behave correctly, but if the same instance keeps running it will misbehave after reboot. This is not a bug in ntpd -- ntpd is not built or designed for mobility and indeed probably should not be altered for mobility. Just adding scripts to restart it is fine. This will take five minutes for a skilled developer, perhaps less. Again, please test with the latest version of Ubuntu, I'm not an imbecile. Please stop treating me like one. If someone wants to fix this, and understands the problem, it will take about five minutes to put appropriate files into the appropriate directories to restart ntpd when a machine comes out of sleep or hibernate. Status: New = Incomplete The bug report is fine. The problem is that the people reading it are insufficiently technically skilled to understand what the issue is. As I said, this will take all of five minutes to fix if someone actually wants to. I'm re-setting the status, as the bug report is most certainly *not* incomplete. Perry -- Perry E. Metzger[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Changed in: ntp (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete = Confirmed -- ntp daemon not reconfigured by /etc/network https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/120199 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 120199] Re: ntp daemon not reconfigured by /etc/network
Hew [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thank you for taking the time to report this bug and helping to make Ubuntu better. You reported this bug a while ago and there hasn't been any activity in it recently. That's not my fault. I reported a bug and no one bothered to try fixing it. That doesn't mean the bug has vanished. We were wondering is this still an issue for you? So far as I know, yes. The files you mentioned are not present in my testing with Intrepid. Can you try with the latest Ubuntu release, Hardy Heron? Thanks in advance. I see no evidence of the problem having been fixed in Hardy. If the files don't exist in Intrepid, that's because they've either been replaced with another mechanism for restarting things after sleep, which might or might not be broken, or because things have been broken by totally removing the scripts instead of fixing them. So, no, you can't just close this bug report without fixing it. Please try to understand what the problem is and to test for the problem being fixed, not for the existence of a particular file. Perry -- ntp daemon not reconfigured by /etc/network https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/120199 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 104525] Re: default ntp.conf should use pool.ntp.org servers
Hew [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thank you for taking the time to report this bug and helping to make Ubuntu better. I have tested using pool.ntp.org and it works well. This should be technically easy to implement, if it's decided this feature is worthwhile. ** Changed in: ntp (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Wishlist Status: New = Triaged I don't understand why Triaged was needed for a problem that could have been fixed by replacing one line in a file. Why is this is a Wishlist item? It seems a) pretty important and b) pretty trivial to fix. Perry -- default ntp.conf should use pool.ntp.org servers https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/104525 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 104525] Re: default ntp.conf should use pool.ntp.org servers
Hew [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You can read the status and importance guidelines at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Status and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance . I'm aware of them. The designation you've made makes no sense. I think it is based on the fact that you don't understand the bug and are more focused on trying to clear things out of the bug database than on fixing them. The fix here is very straightforward. Perry -- default ntp.conf should use pool.ntp.org servers https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/104525 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 120199] Re: ntp daemon not reconfigured by /etc/network
Hew [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Your report states that there are problems with /etc/network/if-up.d/ntp and /etc/network/ntp-server, but these files do not exist in Intrepid, The problem isn't those files. It is the functionality. The fact that the files no longer exist at all might in fact mean that the situation is worse, not that it is better. and from what I can tell, ntp works just fine. Okay, if you're sure there is no problem, what restarts ntp when a machine wakes from sleep on a laptop? If it is not restarted, it is likely not to have the correct ntp servers in use, and it will not have the time properly synchronized. Perry -- Perry E. Metzger[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ntp daemon not reconfigured by /etc/network https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/120199 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 104525] Re: default ntp.conf should use pool.ntp.org servers
Hew [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If the fix is straightforward, you may submit it yourself. I did. Read the bug report. It is editing two lines in a file (or restoring the file with the two lines edited if it was removed in Intrepid). -- Perry E. Metzger[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- default ntp.conf should use pool.ntp.org servers https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/104525 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 88746] Re: ehci_hcd module causes I/O errors in USB 2.0 devices
FoolsRun [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have solved this problem on my system by replacing my USB 2.0 PCI card. That's not practical if you have a laptop. Perry -- ehci_hcd module causes I/O errors in USB 2.0 devices https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/88746 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 88746] Re: ehci_hcd module causes I/O errors in USB 2.0 devices
FoolsRun [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No, of course it's not practical for laptops and I didn't mean to imply that it was. I thought my results might help narrow down the issue, though. I think, based on the information attached to this bug report, that the bug is already well understood. The problem is getting someone to take it seriously to do something about it. -- Perry E. Metzger[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ehci_hcd module causes I/O errors in USB 2.0 devices https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/88746 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 88746] Re: ehci_hcd module causes I/O errors in USB 2.0 devices
Mackenzie Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is a new bug for me as of Hardy. And rmmod'ing ehci_hcd doesn't help any. It makes it worse, even. Then it might not be the same bug. Perry -- ehci_hcd module causes I/O errors in USB 2.0 devices https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/88746 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 88746] WORKAROUND: ehci_hcd module causes I/O errors in USB 2.0 devices
Oisín Mac Fhearaí [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hard to believe this bug hasn't been fixed yet tbh. There's obviously some workaround which allows other operating systems to deal with it and suspend/resume normally as well. A number of OSes seem to manage it just fine, yes. Perry -- ehci_hcd module causes I/O errors in USB 2.0 devices https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/88746 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 89591] Re: Please package Amarok Rio Karma support (--with-libkarma)
Following the previous directions (with a few difficulties -- I needed to get the amarok_riokarma-mediadevice.desktop file out of the amarok sources), I got my Karma working under Hardy. It would be nice to make the thing automatically mount when it is plugged in (which I don't know how to do) but I am not clueful enough to know how to do that. It would be nice if this was fnally all packaged up -- clearly there is not much required to do it as Debian seems to have the whole thing done. -- Please package Amarok Rio Karma support (--with-libkarma) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/89591 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 209342] Re: IBM T40 breaks under Hardy with 2.6.24 kernel
Leann Ogasawara [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just to see if it makes a difference, care to test the Intrepid Ibex 8.10 kernel? [instructions on how to test elided] Please let us know your results. Thanks. This appears to fix my problems with my T40 -- at the very least, boot proceeded normally (which it did not with the 2.6.24 kernel), sound is working, and the wireless card is working. Is there hope to get the 2.6.24 kernel working as well as the 2.6.25 kernel is working? Perry -- IBM T40 breaks under Hardy with 2.6.24 kernel https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/209342 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 229556] Re: Problems with CD/DVD drive on IBM Thinkpad T41 under Hardy
** Attachment added: lspci -vnn output http://launchpadlibrarian.net/14471955/lspci-vnn.log -- Problems with CD/DVD drive on IBM Thinkpad T41 under Hardy https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/229556 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 229556] Re: Problems with CD/DVD drive on IBM Thinkpad T41 under Hardy
** Attachment added: dmesg.log http://launchpadlibrarian.net/14471931/dmesg.log -- Problems with CD/DVD drive on IBM Thinkpad T41 under Hardy https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/229556 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 229556] [NEW] Problems with CD/DVD drive on IBM Thinkpad T41 under Hardy
Public bug reported: Under Hardy, I'm experiencing the following problems with my CD/DVD (removable) drive: 1) When sleeping, the power light on the CD/DVD drive remains on, and from what I can tell based on battery drain times, it appears that the drive is indeed consuming power. Clearly something is wrong with the ACPI detach of the device on suspend. This is rather annoying as it significantly reduces the amount of time the machine can be left sleeping. 2) If I pop the drive out (it is an Ultrabay Slim device), and re-insert it, the OS crashes hard. This is certainly not appropriate behavior for the device. I can only assume that this, too, is a problem with detaching/reattaching the driver. I'll attach dmesg and lspci output -- here is uname and version_signature data: $ uname -a Linux hackworth.piermont.com 2.6.24-16-generic #1 SMP Thu Apr 10 13:23:42 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux $ cat /proc/version_signature Ubuntu 2.6.24-16.30-generic ** Affects: linux (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- Problems with CD/DVD drive on IBM Thinkpad T41 under Hardy https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/229556 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 225780] Re: mplayer no longer works under Hardy on IBM T41
Now, without any real explanation, it seems to be working again. The report can be closed. -- mplayer no longer works under Hardy on IBM T41 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/225780 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 88746] Re: ehci_hcd module causes I/O errors in USB 2.0 devices
rod40cool [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think this bug is solved for me. The solution for me was to not use the front USB ports on the front of the case but instead plug my ipod into one of the usb ports on the back of the case which are directly mounted on the motherboard. That's not a solution. You're almost certainly just using the low speed ports instead of the high speed ports. It should not be the case that some people have difficulty using USB high speed. Perry -- ehci_hcd module causes I/O errors in USB 2.0 devices https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/88746 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 88746] Re: ehci_hcd module causes I/O errors in USB 2.0 devices
Daniel Gimpelevich [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On May 3, 2008, at 8:24 AM, Perry E. Metzger wrote: That's not a solution. You're almost certainly just using the low speed ports instead of the high speed ports. It should not be the case that some people have difficulty using USB high speed. That's what I originally suspected, but I verified that NOT to be the case for him. Everything but the mouse was getting recognized as high-speed devices, but the iPod was not communicating reliably when plugged into the front. Thus, what he was experiencing was not even this bug at all. Bizarre. So he just had broken hardware? -- ehci_hcd module causes I/O errors in USB 2.0 devices https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/88746 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 225780] [NEW] mplayer no longer works under Hardy on IBM T41
Public bug reported: Binary package hint: mplayer Running under Hardy on an IBM Thinkpad T41 laptop, mplayer no longer works at all. (Neither, it appears, does Totem.) If I try to play a video from the shell, mplayer hangs for a while, then pops up a window with what appears to be the first frame of the video, and then either hangs forever or crashes shortly thereafter. Sometimes it fails to open a window at all. Sometimes it appears to play (though nothing displays other than black) and then dies quickly. Totem has very similar behavior. This worked perfectly under Gutsy. Given that both Totem and mplayer seem similarly afflicted, I wonder if the problem isn't actually in the x server video extension stuff or in a library both Totem and mplayer use, but I have no real clue about how to go about debugging this. Here is typical output from the program, which is not terribly useful so far as I can tell: $ mplayer bussard.mp4 MPlayer 1.0rc2-4.2.3 (C) 2000-2007 MPlayer Team CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1700MHz (Family: 6, Model: 9, Stepping: 5) CPUflags: MMX: 1 MMX2: 1 3DNow: 0 3DNow2: 0 SSE: 1 SSE2: 1 Compiled with runtime CPU detection. mplayer: could not connect to socket mplayer: No such file or directory Failed to open LIRC support. You will not be able to use your remote control. Playing bussard.mp4. Quicktime/MOV file format detected. [mov] Video stream found, -vid 0 [mov] Audio stream found, -aid 1 VIDEO: [avc1] 320x240 24bpp 29.969 fps0.0 kbps ( 0.0 kbyte/s) xscreensaver_disable: Could not find XScreenSaver window. GNOME screensaver disabled == Opening video decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg's libavcodec codec family Selected video codec: [ffh264] vfm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg H.264) == == Forced audio codec: mad Opening audio decoder: [faad] AAC (MPEG2/4 Advanced Audio Coding) AUDIO: 44100 Hz, 2 ch, s16le, 104.0 kbit/7.37% (ratio: 13005-176400) Selected audio codec: [faad] afm: faad (FAAD AAC (MPEG-2/MPEG-4 Audio) decoder) == AO: [pulse] 44100Hz 2ch s16le (2 bytes per sample) Starting playback... VDec: vo config request - 320 x 240 (preferred colorspace: Planar YV12) VDec: using Planar YV12 as output csp (no 0) Movie-Aspect is undefined - no prescaling applied. VO: [xv] 320x240 = 320x240 Planar YV12 A: 0.0 V: 0.1 A-V: -0.125 ct: -0.008 11/ 11 ??% ??% ??,?% 0 0 [And at this point, it hung forever.] ** Affects: mplayer (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- mplayer no longer works under Hardy on IBM T41 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/225780 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 98608] Re: USB problems on IBM T41 laptop
I can now confirm that Hardy still has the same problem. -- USB problems on IBM T41 laptop https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/98608 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 98608] Re: USB problems on IBM T41 laptop
Leann Ogasawara [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This seems to be a duplicate of bug 88746. Care to take a look. I realize it's a rather long thread of comments to follow, but I'd point you to comment https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/88746/comments/228 which was made by one of kernel developers. Thanks. It does look like a duplicate. I'll note that under other OSes, it seems possible to autosuspend and to use USB 2.0 at the same time -- I'm not convinced that both problems can't be fixed. Perry -- USB problems on IBM T41 laptop https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/98608 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 209342] Re: IBM T40 breaks under Hardy with 2.6.24 kernel
pongtawat [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: RC is out, so it is likely that you and me are left to stay with 2.6.22 kernel :( I can't understand why this bug report is being ignored. Perry -- IBM T40 breaks under Hardy with 2.6.24 kernel https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/209342 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 209342] Re: IBM T40 breaks under Hardy with 2.6.24 kernel
pongtawat [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have the same problem here with Thinkpad T40 and kernel 2.6.24-16-generic. Please tell me if I could be any help. I would guess that if you go through the bug report and dump and upload the same information I uploaded it would be of help to the people who might fix the bug. -- Perry E. Metzger[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- IBM T40 breaks under Hardy with 2.6.24 kernel https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/209342 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 209342] Re: IBM T40 breaks under Hardy with 2.6.24 kernel
pongtawat [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: FYI, Gutsy 2.6.22 kernel seems to work fine. That is my experience too. If I boot an old kernel, I have no problem at all. This is absolutely a regression against Gutsy. Perry -- IBM T40 breaks under Hardy with 2.6.24 kernel https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/209342 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 209342] Re: IBM T40 breaks under Hardy with 2.6.24 kernel
I note that the bug report is still listed as incomplete although it has been some days since I posted the requested information. The clock is also ticking on auto-deleting the bug report. Is there something else I need to add before the report will be considered complete? I'd hate to have report of a real problem removed for lack of some information that is still considered needed. -- IBM T40 breaks under Hardy with 2.6.24 kernel https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/209342 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 209342] Re: IBM T40 breaks under Hardy with 2.6.24 kernel
** Summary changed: - T40 breaks under Hardy with 2.6.24 kernel + IBM T40 breaks under Hardy with 2.6.24 kernel ** Description changed: - I upgraded a T40 to Hardy. The machine goes quite nuts with a 2.6.24 - kernel -- booting the old 2.6.22 kernel works more or less fine. - Symptoms include a long hang during hardware probes and failure to + I upgraded an IBM T40 laptop to Hardy. The machine goes quite nuts with + a 2.6.24 kernel -- booting the old 2.6.22 kernel works more or less + fine. Symptoms include a long hang during hardware probes and failure to properly initialize a bunch of the hardware thereafter. -- IBM T40 breaks under Hardy with 2.6.24 kernel https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/209342 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 209342] Re: T40 breaks under Hardy with 2.6.24 kernel
Leann Ogasawara [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Are you able to at least make it through the boot process to be able to grab some log information? Yes, I can do that. If so, can you attach the following (be sure to attach each as a separate file and not as a tarball). Will do right now. * cat /proc/version_signature version.log * dmesg dmesg.log * sudo lspci -vvnn lspci-vvnn.log Perry -- T40 breaks under Hardy with 2.6.24 kernel https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/209342 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 209342] Re: T40 breaks under Hardy with 2.6.24 kernel
** Attachment added: version.log http://launchpadlibrarian.net/13098056/version.log -- T40 breaks under Hardy with 2.6.24 kernel https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/209342 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 209342] Re: T40 breaks under Hardy with 2.6.24 kernel
** Attachment added: dmesg.log http://launchpadlibrarian.net/13098087/dmesg.log -- T40 breaks under Hardy with 2.6.24 kernel https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/209342 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 209342] Re: T40 breaks under Hardy with 2.6.24 kernel
** Attachment added: lspci-vvnn.log http://launchpadlibrarian.net/13098098/lspci-vvnn.log -- T40 breaks under Hardy with 2.6.24 kernel https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/209342 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 209342] Re: T40 breaks under Hardy with 2.6.24 kernel
By the way, things have improved slightly. With the absolutely latest Hardy kernel, boot still hangs for quite a while before succeeding and sound is still dead, but the ethernet now comes up. The wireless is still dead, though. -- T40 breaks under Hardy with 2.6.24 kernel https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/209342 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 209342] [NEW] T40 breaks under Hardy with 2.6.24 kernel
Public bug reported: I upgraded a T40 to Hardy. The machine goes quite nuts with a 2.6.24 kernel -- booting the old 2.6.22 kernel works more or less fine. Symptoms include a long hang during hardware probes and failure to properly initialize a bunch of the hardware thereafter. ** Affects: linux (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- T40 breaks under Hardy with 2.6.24 kernel https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/209342 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 209342] [NEW] T40 breaks under Hardy with 2.6.24 kernel
I just realized, I should have said an IBM Thinkpad T40. I'm not entirely sure what sort of machine information will be needed by whomever will be helping to debug this -- just tell me what commands to run and I'll post the output here. (Please specify if you need me to be running the broken kernel when I run said commands.) Perry -- T40 breaks under Hardy with 2.6.24 kernel https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/209342 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 104525] Re: default ntp.conf should use pool.ntp.org servers
Inkwina [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In any case the concern with anonymous servers is not dissimilar from that wit anonymous mirrors. It is quite dissimilar, in that an anonymous mirror (where you didn't check the signatures) could take over your machine. There is no evidence an anonymous bad actor controlling one of several clocks you are reading could take over your machine -- even if he controlled all the clocks, he could probably not take over your machine. If your security requirements are that stringent, you should be running your own stratum 1 ntpd (a gps reciever does not cost that much). GPS signals can be externally corrupted with an appropriate transmitter as well. There is no actual way to prove you have the correct time. (This is one reason very few protocols require accurate timekeeping for security.) -- Perry E. Metzger[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- default ntp.conf should use pool.ntp.org servers https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/104525 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 104525] Re: default ntp.conf should use pool.ntp.org servers
Alexander Konovalenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm concerned with the security implications of using a pool of unknown time servers per default. Most other OSes out there do this or variations on it now, so it would hardly be an Ubuntu specific problem. There are only security problems for Kerberos based services. If you're using Kerberos, you had better be set up to use NTP one way or another anyway, and probably a custom setup. If you're not already using ntp, your kerberos setup won't work at all. If I understand correctly, anyone can volunteer to participate in the pool. If the end user's ntpd is started with the -g option, overriding the 1000 seconds sanity check (as was the default in Ubuntu 7.10), The default can always be changed, of course, but I think it hardly matters. and the server selects only one time server from the pool to synchronize from, That's a big if. If you have three servers in your list, the odds of all three being suborned are minimal. The odds of an attacker being able to influence which clients end up getting pointed to them in the DNS are also minimal. Beyond that, there is the fact that there are generally no real security implications to having your clock altered. an attacker who controls a single server in the pool can set the time of many Ubuntu hosts over the world. Yes. That's hardly a problem. Also, he will know the IP addresses of the victims. Not really. He'll only know they asked his machine for time -- he has no way of knowing if they actually set the time (especially if they have other servers giving different numbers) and he has no real way to exploit any of this anyway. If any of them happen to be interesting targets for the attacker, he can then mount further attacks on all cryptographic protocols that depend on correct time-keeping Which protocols would those be? I don't think Ubuntu ships with any kerberos enabled apps, and even for kerberos the attacks are minimal, since the clock is only used for ticket expiry. (for example, to prevent replay attacks). TLS and IPsec use entirely different mechanisms to prevent replay. There are no clock dependent security protocols in real use that I'm aware of other than Kerberos. Even for Kerberos, trying to set a clock far off is only going to allow an attacker to extend a ticket, it won't actually allow important remotely exploitable attacks. I can post references on this if needed. That would be a serious security threat for the users. I do security for a living. I see no threat here, and certainly no serious threat. If you are really concerned about security, worry about real problems in the default Ubuntu config, like turning zeroconf on by default, which expose people to actual problems. This threat you are worried about in setting a default ntp.conf is not real. Perry -- default ntp.conf should use pool.ntp.org servers https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/104525 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 95428] Re: Cannot mount USB 2.0 devices
This would appear to be the same as 98608, which I reported a year ago. -- Cannot mount USB 2.0 devices https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/95428 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 98608] Re: USB problems on IBM T41 laptop
Jukka Laurila [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Gutsy has the same problem and the temporary workaround rmmod ehci_ucd works there as well. Wouldn't it be nice if we didn't have to use a workaround. Perry -- USB problems on IBM T41 laptop https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/98608 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 144089] Re: A bug I reported has been in limbo for 5 months.
Pedro Villavicencio [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This does not appear to be a bug report and we are closing it. It would be neat if you guys could spend as much time paying attention to complaints as you did to stifling them. The complaint, I will note, was not about the bug itself. We appreciate the difficulties you are facing, but it would make more sense to raise your question in a mailing list or in the #ubuntu-kernel channel as Scott already suggested to you. If you appreciated my difficulties, you would try to do something about them rather than telling me that I've shown up with the wrong form at the wrong window and that I should fill out the other form and show up in the other office between 9am and 10:30am on a Wednesday. Perry -- A bug I reported has been in limbo for 5 months. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/144089 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 98608] Re: USB problems on IBM T41 laptop
I'm starting to wonder whether anyone actually cares at all. Five months and you can't even assign a priority to the bug? -- USB problems on IBM T41 laptop https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/98608 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 144089] A bug I reported has been in limbo for 5 months.
Public bug reported: I reported 98608 a very long time ago. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/98608 The person assigned to it seems to have ignored it in the interim. (I note by clicking on his name that he seems to have done the same thing to many other bug reports). The other bugs that I've reported in the past have not been quite so thoroughly ignored. For some reason -- perhaps because of who the bug was assigned to -- this one (which inconveniences me nearly every day and is exceptionally bad) has been left to rot. ** Affects: ubuntu Importance: Undecided Status: New -- A bug I reported has been in limbo for 5 months. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/144089 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 144089] Re: A bug I reported has been in limbo for 5 months.
Until someone actually bothers to touch the original bug report, I'm afraid that declaring this one invalid isn't going to help either. ** Changed in: ubuntu Status: Invalid = New -- A bug I reported has been in limbo for 5 months. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/144089 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 144089] Re: A bug I reported has been in limbo for 5 months.
Scott Kitterman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Filing another bug isn't going to help. ** Changed in: ubuntu Status: New = Invalid And what will help? Shutting up and ignoring things perpetually? This is a valid bug. It is a bug in the bug management system. Declaring it invalid isn't going to actually help anything. Perry -- A bug I reported has been in limbo for 5 months. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/144089 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 144089] Re: A bug I reported has been in limbo for 5 months.
Scott Kitterman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Unless you have a Canonical support contract, the fact that a bug isn't fixed as quickly as you would like isn't a bug. I didn't ask that it be *fixed*. It could be a legitimately hard problem that might take years to fix, or it might be that I'm one of five people suffering from it so it is unimportant. The bug is that it hasn't been assigned an importance level after five months, so it isn't being processed further. Launchpad should not leave things to rot this way. It should keep nagging owners of bug reports until they properly categorize them. What I would suggest is ask what can be done to improve the clarity or completeness of the bug on #ubuntu-kernel during their normal workday. Actually, if you read the original bug report, the owner asked a question which was fully responded to. If further questions had been asked they would have been responded to as well. The problem is that the bug report was left to rot, not that the bug was not fixed. Perry -- A bug I reported has been in limbo for 5 months. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/144089 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 144089] Re: A bug I reported has been in limbo for 5 months.
Scott Kitterman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you think getting more bugmail is going to encourage developers to fix more stuff, I think you are seriously mistaken. Not to *fix*. To *categorize*. I'm not demanding a fix. I'm demanding that the process be followed so things don't die without anyone knowing whether they're important or not. (The particular responsible party appears to have left many hundreds of bug reports in this state, which appears to be unusual. A proper tracking system would have escalated that at some point.) -- Perry E. Metzger[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- A bug I reported has been in limbo for 5 months. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/144089 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 51784] Re: Executes wpa_supplicant in too verbose mode
Alexander Sack [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i somehow must be blind ... can you tell me where those log messages end up for you? grep for them in /var/log if you're running NetworkManager. They're pretty unmistakable. Perry -- Executes wpa_supplicant in too verbose mode https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/51784 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 98608] Re: USB problems on IBM T41 laptop
Does it really take three months to decide if a bug that prevents users from touching any USB high speed peripheral is important or not? -- USB problems on IBM T41 laptop https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/98608 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 103436] Re: sshd not reconfigured by /etc/network
Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ** Changed in: openssh (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Wishlist Status: Unconfirmed = Confirmed FYI, this need not stay wishlist for long -- it will take less than five minutes to actually add ssh. Just to make it clear: in /etc/network/if-up.d, place a file named ssh saying this or a slight variant: -- #!/bin/sh case $ADDRFAM in inet*) if [ -x /etc/init.d/ssh ]; then /etc/init.d/ssh restart || exit $? fi ;; esac -- This really will take no time. Please fix it -- it will make the world a better place and close an open bug. Perry -- sshd not reconfigured by /etc/network https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/103436 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
