[Bug 1958224] Re: brltty claiming cp210x devices on 22.04
> it's a bit unclear to me which entries there should be considered 'generic USB IDs'? They are marked "Generic Identifier", that's 0403:6001 10C4:EA60 10C4:EA80 > I also don't understand why those rules are debian specific See the diff between ./debian/brltty-udeb.udev.rules and ./Autostart/Udev/device.rules.in Note that in debian we use the udev rules *only* inside the installer. The current strategy in Debian is that in the installer we use udev rules to autodetect braille devices. But in the installed system we don't: when the user installs brltty, the user means that they have a Braille device and want to probe it, whether it uses a generic USB ID or not, i.e. we always start brltty > How does upstream handle the devices? When brltty is started it just always probes all devices. Its udev rules file always starts brltty, be it generic IDs or not. > We should stop installing brltty by default going forward That would align with the way it happens in Debian yes. Ideally the udev rules would be split so that the non-generic pieces get always installed to start brltty, and the generic pieces are installed only when necessary. That's a matter of actually spending time on implementing it. > we aren't going to respin ISOs on old serie for such changes and that wouldn't be a solution for already installed systems... Yes, rather disable the generic udev rules. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1958224 Title: brltty claiming cp210x devices on 22.04 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/brltty/+bug/1958224/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1958224] Re: brltty claiming cp210x devices on 22.04
orca only suggests brltty, it's the *-desktop packages which seem to be recommending brltty. If Ubuntu really wants to install brltty by default, it should disable the udev entries for the generic USB IDs -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1958224 Title: brltty claiming cp210x devices on 22.04 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/brltty/+bug/1958224/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 874181] Re: brltty daemon prevents creation of ttyUSB0 device link
Yes, unfortunately there is no way to fix it in that case. The udev rules properly avoid starting brltty when the iManufacturer field is changed from FTDI to the actual manufacturer of the device, but not when it is left to FTDI. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/874181 Title: brltty daemon prevents creation of ttyUSB0 device link To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/brltty/+bug/874181/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1958224] Re: brltty claiming cp210x devices on 22.04
> In this case, brltty appeared (or at least the device claim) after a dist-upgrade Ah, do you happen to have a log of that dist-upgrade, so we can determine what brought it in? > It still feels very bad form for a vendor device to use the default VID/PID of the underlying converter chip Yes. Unfortunately that's what they have done, those devices are out there, and people have already bought them (and they cost a lot of money) :( -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1958224 Title: brltty claiming cp210x devices on 22.04 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/brltty/+bug/1958224/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1958224] Re: brltty claiming cp210x devices on 22.04
Debian is installing the brltty package only when brltty was used during installation. Brltty gets started during installation either through the udev rules, or started manually from the kernel command line. The finish-install script just checks out /var/run/brltty.pid to determine whether a brltty is running. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1958224 Title: brltty claiming cp210x devices on 22.04 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/brltty/+bug/1958224/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 527200] Re: accerciser crashed with LookupError in _inner()
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 526398 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/526398 ** This bug has been marked a duplicate of bug 526398 accerciser crashed with LookupError in _inner() -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/527200 Title: accerciser crashed with LookupError in _inner() To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/accerciser/+bug/527200/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 718572] Re: accerciser crashed with LookupError in _inner()
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 526398 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/526398 ** This bug has been marked a duplicate of bug 526398 accerciser crashed with LookupError in _inner() -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/718572 Title: accerciser crashed with LookupError in _inner() To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/accerciser/+bug/718572/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1958224] Re: brltty claiming cp210x devices on 22.04
Yes, but it is meant to be so: the Seika Braille device is announced as such, so we have to recognize such devices in brltty, otherwise the Seika Braille devices would not work at all. The question is rather: why is brltty installed on your system? It is supposed to be installed only if you installed your system with a Braille device connected. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1958224 Title: brltty claiming cp210x devices on 22.04 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/brltty/+bug/1958224/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1950488] Re: brltty ftbfs in jammy
Ah, the patch is already in brltty 6.4 actually, so no change on the Debian side actually :) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1950488 Title: brltty ftbfs in jammy To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/brltty/+bug/1950488/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1950488] Re: brltty ftbfs in jammy
Ok, thanks! The corresponding commit upstream is e6ed2372887ac0106db8854f70e9b2fdcadec74f, attached here, could somebody check that this fixes the build issue on Ubuntu? I'll then integrate the patch in Debian as well. ** Attachment added: "patch" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/brltty/+bug/1950488/+attachment/5541197/+files/patch -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1950488 Title: brltty ftbfs in jammy To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/brltty/+bug/1950488/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1950488] Re: brltty ftbfs in jammy
> it is probably newer python versions being stricter with the use of non existing options? The --without-viavoice is not passed to the python bindings, so that cannot be the problem. That said I have now dropped the option from debian/rules, thanks :) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1950488 Title: brltty ftbfs in jammy To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/brltty/+bug/1950488/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1950488] Re: brltty ftbfs in jammy
Please provide the whole build log. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1950488 Title: brltty ftbfs in jammy To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/brltty/+bug/1950488/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1942459] Re: Speakup modules not included in Hirsute kernel
> Enabling CONFIG_ACCESSIBILITY could affect console output No it won't: no source code uses CONFIG_ACCESSIBILITY. CONFIG_ACCESSIBILITY only enables the accessibility configuration menu which allows enabling speakup. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1942459 Title: Speakup modules not included in Hirsute kernel To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1942459/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 520546] Re: [SRU]Alt+KEY incorrectly behaves like Ctrl+Alt+KEY, and/or unwanted VT switch from Alt+Left/Right
It seems I have to insist again: patch https://launchpadlibrarian.net/405256420/patch should definitely really really be applied. As explained in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome- shell/+bug/1508146/comments/73 that script should really *not* pass --force to setupcon. There is no reason for that except that it was copy/pasted from the Debian installer, where it is needed due to the use of bterm. On Ubuntu it should really not be used. Can somebody at last apply that patch that has been waiting for 2 years? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/520546 Title: [SRU]Alt+KEY incorrectly behaves like Ctrl+Alt+KEY, and/or unwanted VT switch from Alt+Left/Right To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/console-setup/+bug/520546/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1893511] Re: espeak cannot find voice file for mbrola-br2
This works with espeak-ng, so not a bug in mbrola-br2 but in espeak -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1893511 Title: espeak cannot find voice file for mbrola-br2 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mbrola-br2/+bug/1893511/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1882966] Re: Recent updates to some packages make it impossible to build an Orca Master in Ubuntu-MATE 20.04
I guess this is due to the following change in at-spi2-atk: * Meson: don't hard-code shared_library (!19). which made meson emit a lot of new libraries in Requires.private of atk- bridge-2.0.pc, and thus the -dev package now has to add them in Depends. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1882966 Title: Recent updates to some packages make it impossible to build an Orca Master in Ubuntu-MATE 20.04 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/at-spi2-atk/+bug/1882966/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1731719] Re: Add multiarch metadata to libhwloc-plugins
This was fixed in Debian in 1.11.10-2 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1731719 Title: Add multiarch metadata to libhwloc-plugins To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hwloc/+bug/1731719/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1507344] Re: Add volume control support to lightdm-gtk-greeter
I confirm that there is still no volume control in lightdm-gtk-greeter 2.0.6. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1507344 Title: Add volume control support to lightdm-gtk-greeter To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/lightdm-gtk-greeter/+bug/1507344/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 520546] Re: Alt+KEY incorrectly behaves like Ctrl+Alt+KEY, and/or unwanted VT switch from Alt+Left/Right
But scripts changing between scancode and ascii/unicode (such as for some terminal emulation, dosbox, etc.) would break. I'm not saying they are widespread, but I have seen this kind of use, and requiring such flag will suddenly break them. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/520546 Title: Alt+KEY incorrectly behaves like Ctrl+Alt+KEY, and/or unwanted VT switch from Alt+Left/Right To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/console-setup/+bug/520546/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 520546] Re: Alt+KEY incorrectly behaves like Ctrl+Alt+KEY, and/or unwanted VT switch from Alt+Left/Right
How will kbd_mode know whether it's safe or not? Adding a -f option to kbd_mode will at best break some *other* existing scripts, while this very script should really definitely *NOT* pass -f to setupcon. That is the nonsense which needs to be fixed. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/520546 Title: Alt+KEY incorrectly behaves like Ctrl+Alt+KEY, and/or unwanted VT switch from Alt+Left/Right To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/console-setup/+bug/520546/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 520546] Re: Alt+KEY incorrectly behaves like Ctrl+Alt+KEY, and/or unwanted VT switch from Alt+Left/Right
That is when updating the console-setup package, yes. As mentioned on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome- shell/+bug/1508146/comments/73 that's because its config script passes --force to setupcon, it really shouldn't, as mentioned there -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/520546 Title: Alt+KEY incorrectly behaves like Ctrl+Alt+KEY, and/or unwanted VT switch from Alt+Left/Right To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/console-setup/+bug/520546/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 520546] Re: Alt+KEY incorrectly behaves like Ctrl+Alt+KEY, and/or unwanted VT switch from Alt+Left/Right
Xorg can't do anything about intercepting Alt-key, it's the kernel which takes the shortcut away. Again, as mentioned on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source /console-setup/+bug/520546/comments/66 « proposed fix: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/console-setup/+bug/520546/+attachment/5227480/+files/patch As mentioned in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1508146 , Ubuntu probably wants to apply the attached patch. » Can somebody with t he proper rights do something about this? That patch exists since months now... -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/520546 Title: Alt+KEY incorrectly behaves like Ctrl+Alt+KEY, and/or unwanted VT switch from Alt+Left/Right To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/console-setup/+bug/520546/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1508146] Re: Alt+left/right arrows switch between tty consoles (Gnome Shell vanishes), cannot disable
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 520546 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/520546 Is there really any reason why keyboard-configuration.postinst passes --force to setupcon? In Debian we do this in the Debian installer because it is running within a bterm and thus can't detect it's running on the Linux console. But we never do this for an installed system. Apparently Ubuntu took that code snipped and dropped the check for being running within the Debian installer, and thus erroneously run with --force when DISPLAY is empty (typically from unattended upgrades and such), with the resulting observed effects of this bug report. I guess Ubuntu wants to apply the attached patch ** Attachment added: "proposed fix" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1508146/+attachment/5227479/+files/patch -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1508146 Title: Alt+left/right arrows switch between tty consoles (Gnome Shell vanishes), cannot disable To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/console-setup/+bug/1508146/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 520546] Re: Alt+KEY incorrectly behaves like Ctrl+Alt+KEY
As mentioned in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome- shell/+bug/1508146 , Ubuntu probably wants to apply the attached patch. ** Attachment added: "proposed fix" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/console-setup/+bug/520546/+attachment/5227480/+files/patch -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/520546 Title: Alt+KEY incorrectly behaves like Ctrl+Alt+KEY To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/console-setup/+bug/520546/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 571956] Re: sd_generic breaks speech-dispatchter
Charlie: do you have the espeak package installed? It is needed to have espeak-generic working -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/571956 Title: sd_generic breaks speech-dispatchter To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/speech-dispatcher/+bug/571956/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1782320] Re: Braille display inoperable in GUI since polkit-update
>From the upstream policykit bug entry, it is actually a misuse of the policykit API from brltty. I have uploaded a fix in Debian's brltty 5.6-5. Ubuntu should definitely include the policykit-fix patch contained in that 5.6-5 version as an update to ubuntu 18.04, otherwise all blind users will have the issue, thus unable to use the graphical desktop. ** Package changed: policykit-1 (Ubuntu) => brltty (Ubuntu) ** Changed in: brltty (Ubuntu) Status: New => Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1782320 Title: Braille display inoperable in GUI since polkit-update To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/brltty/+bug/1782320/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1782320] Re: Braille display inoperable in GUI since polkit-update
Yes, disabling that patch fixes the issue. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1782320 Title: Braille display inoperable in GUI since polkit-update To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/policykit-1/+bug/1782320/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1782320] Re: Braille display inoperable in GUI since polkit-update
I can confirm the same issue on Debian: upgrading from version 0.105-20 to version 0.105-21 brings the same issue. ** CVE added: https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=2018-1116 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1782320 Title: Braille display inoperable in GUI since polkit-update To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/policykit-1/+bug/1782320/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1782320] Re: Braille display inoperable in GUI since polkit-update
This is most probably due to the introduction of Fix-CVE-2018-1116 -Trusting-client-supplied-UID.patch -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1782320 Title: Braille display inoperable in GUI since polkit-update To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/policykit-1/+bug/1782320/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1782320] Re: Braille display inoperable in GUI since polkit-update
This seems to be an issue within policykit itself. Printing the actual error shows: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1.Error.Failed: process with PID 12570 has been replaced >From reading the source code, it seems that policykit is checking the start time of the program and finds a mismatch. It happens that orca is run as a Python script, so I thought that might be due to the script startup procedure, but starting a C brlapi client gives the same issue. At any rate, really looks like not an issue in brltty itself. ** Package changed: brltty (Ubuntu) => policykit-1 (Ubuntu) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1782320 Title: Braille display inoperable in GUI since polkit-update To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/policykit-1/+bug/1782320/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1782320] Re: Braille display inoperable in GUI since polkit-update
Note: to reproduce the issue, one just needs to install an Ubuntu 18.04 system, start brltty by hand as root with: sudo brltty -b no then try to connect to it as normal logged-in user through brlapi: python3 >>> import brlapi >>> b = brlapi.Connection() which shouldn't raise an exception. Logs can be seen in /var/log/syslog (unfortunately the current package source code only prints errno instead of the GError). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1782320 Title: Braille display inoperable in GUI since polkit-update To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/policykit-1/+bug/1782320/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1354715] Re: [needs-packaging] Support also nl1 and nl3
They are now available in cosmic -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1354715 Title: [needs-packaging] Support also nl1 and nl3 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mbrola-nl2/+bug/1354715/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1782320] Re: Braille display inoperable in GUI since polkit-update
Well, this is not a real solution, we need to fix polkit, otherwise all users will have the same issue, and we don't want to make them all revert back to file-based authentication. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1782320 Title: Braille display inoperable in GUI since polkit-update To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/brltty/+bug/1782320/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1722732] Re: Modules not translatable
Hello, The files for these plugins are indeed missing in POTFILES.in. I have pushed then i18n-plugins-a11y branch that adds just them, and i18n- plugins which just adds the missing .xml.in files for all plugins (not sure why they were not added for all plugins already) Samuel -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1722732 Title: Modules not translatable To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz/+bug/1722732/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 874181] Re: brltty daemon prevents creation of ttyUSB0 device link
lasakro, stu: which USB ID does your device have? (otherwise we can't know what to fix in brltty) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/874181 Title: brltty daemon prevents creation of ttyUSB0 device link To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/brltty/+bug/874181/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1741070] Re: Please merge brltty (main) 5.5-4 from Debian unstable (main)
I don't know how ubuntu manages that. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1741070 Title: Please merge brltty (main) 5.5-4 from Debian unstable (main) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/brltty/+bug/1741070/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1670933] Re: [PATCH] Accessibility partly broken due to X root window being kept from login session.
I have pushed the AT_SPI_BUS removal patch to branch https://code.launchpad.net/~samuel-thibault/lightdm-gtk-greeter/at-spi- bus -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1670933 Title: [PATCH] Accessibility partly broken due to X root window being kept from login session. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/lightdm-gtk-greeter/+bug/1670933/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1670933] Re: [PATCH] Accessibility partly broken due to X root window being kept from login session.
Hello, Still now news on this and #1366534 ? This is really hurting users... -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1670933 Title: [PATCH] Accessibility partly broken due to X root window being kept from login session. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/lightdm-gtk-greeter/+bug/1670933/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1722732] Re: Modules not translatable
Indeed, for instance, "Enhanced Zoom Desktop" (the name of the ezoom plugin) appears in fr.po, but it is not translated on the ccsm panel, while others are, for instance "Opacity, Brightness and Saturation" (the name of the obs plugin) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1722732 Title: Modules not translatable To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz/+bug/1722732/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1670933] Re: [PATCH] Accessibility partly broken due to X root window being kept from login session.
Hello, Just to confirm that the approch proposed by Luke is sound. Removing the AT_SPI_BUS property would really be the safest for the user session: even if systemd doesn't manage to properly clean the at-spi dbus, at least the session isn't exposed to its existence. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1670933 Title: [PATCH] Accessibility partly broken due to X root window being kept from login session. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/lightdm-gtk-greeter/+bug/1670933/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1664320] Re: xbrlapi loopback interface abuse
Hello, This was reported in debian http://bugs.debian.org/851623 , and that led to upstream fix https://github.com/brltty/brltty/commit/0a5341121ba8f4de24407ce2a4d5369dadf5d099 ** Bug watch added: Debian Bug tracker #851623 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=851623 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1664320 Title: xbrlapi loopback interface abuse To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/brltty/+bug/1664320/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1579531] Re: openConnection: connect: No such file or directory
I have suggested a patch to Dave, upstream maintainer of brltty -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1579531 Title: openConnection: connect: No such file or directory To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/brltty/+bug/1579531/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1567658] Re: ubuntuBSD support
I've commited it, thanks! -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1567658 Title: ubuntuBSD support To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/brltty/+bug/1567658/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1520294] Re: Jabref (2.11.1, 2.11b3, 2.10) hangs after Java upgrade on Ubuntu 15.10
Please see the end of https://bugs.debian.org/cgi- bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=797595 : awt is currently not calling XInitThreads(), and libxcb is thus not thread-safe. Jabref happens to be using threads, so all kinds of funky things is to be expected. The patch proposed there will probably fix the issue. ** Bug watch added: Debian Bug tracker #797595 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=797595 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1520294 Title: Jabref (2.11.1, 2.11b3, 2.10) hangs after Java upgrade on Ubuntu 15.10 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/jabref/+bug/1520294/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 935296] Re: java-atk-wrapper prevents java applications from starting
Hello, While I could reproduce the issue with java-atk-wrapper 0.30, I can not reproduce it with java-atk-wrapper 0.33. I had reported the issue on https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=698095 , and it was reported as fixed. Perhaps it is the time to consider re-enabling accessibility in /etc/java-7-openjdk/accessibility.properties ? (wily has java-atk- wrapper 0.33) Samuel ** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #698095 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=698095 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/935296 Title: java-atk-wrapper prevents java applications from starting To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/java-atk-wrapper/+bug/935296/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1365054] Re: package brltty 5.0-2ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
Well, yes, brltty needs mountkernfs, like a lot of software actually. Having it disabled seems the culprit here, not brltty. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1365054 Title: package brltty 5.0-2ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/brltty/+bug/1365054/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 543651] Re: [needs-packaging] mbrola-voices
Again, there is no point in shipping nl1 and nl3 as long as we don't have any tool to produce .pho files for them. We only have that for the nl2 language (thanks to espeak), that's why I uploaded that one. Uploading nl1 and nl3 would be like promise the user that he can use them, but the truth is that he won't be able to use them since he'll have no tool to produce the .pho files required by nl1 and nl3. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/543651 Title: [needs-packaging] mbrola-voices To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/543651/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1013881]
I too believe that Andreas' proposal is the right one. It permits people who really want the extra 5th level to be able to easily get it, while not breaking the 99% usual usage. Just for the record, I had not seen the linuxfr discussion. I guess mostly only people who would want the extra 5th level did realize that it would steal the right control key. If a discussion happened on are people fine with making the right control key the 5th level modifier by *default*, the result would be quite different, I believe. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013881 Title: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1013881/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 221112]
I too believe that Andreas' proposal is the right one. It permits people who really want the extra 5th level to be able to easily get it, while not breaking the 99% usual usage. Just for the record, I had not seen the linuxfr discussion. I guess mostly only people who would want the extra 5th level did realize that it would steal the right control key. If a discussion happened on are people fine with making the right control key the 5th level modifier by *default*, the result would be quite different, I believe. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/221112 Title: Can't use space bar in search bar when using french alternative keyboard To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/libgnomekbd/+bug/221112/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1013881]
Hello, Until a solution is to be found, could 518c769d be reverted for now? Breaking the very standard behavior of right control in all applications (e.g. xterminals!!) is really not acceptable, compared to the few issues that the behavior has without it. Samuel -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1013881 Title: Right-Ctrl key broken on French OSS keyboard To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1013881/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 221112]
Hello, Until a solution is to be found, could 518c769d be reverted for now? Breaking the very standard behavior of right control in all applications (e.g. xterminals!!) is really not acceptable, compared to the few issues that the behavior has without it. Samuel -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/221112 Title: Can't use space bar in search bar when using french alternative keyboard To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/libgnomekbd/+bug/221112/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1082679] Re: brlapi.OperationError.__str__ return bytes
This should get fixed by the next brltty version, 4.5, to be released very soon. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1082679 Title: brlapi.OperationError.__str__ return bytes To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/brltty/+bug/1082679/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 1099309] [NEW] [Quantal and Raring] Brltty native braille support doesn't work with Orca
Attila Hammer, le Mon 14 Jan 2013 07:22:17 -, a écrit : In Ubuntu Quantal and Ubuntu Raring if I enabling Orca with braille support, the Orca's debug.out file I see following traceback error message: BrlTTY seems to have disappeared: Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/orca/braille.py, line 1720, in _brlAPIKeyReader key = _brlAPI.readKey(False) File brlapi.pyx, line 535, in brlapi.Connection.readKey (brlapi.auto.c:6558) brlapi.OperationError: unprintable OperationError object If I remember right an oldest I opened thread with Brltty mailing list, this problem related the Python3 Brltty bindings. The python3 binding issue brings the unprintable part, but most probably not the error which triggered it. Does the user which runs orca have access to /etc/brlapi.key? Is the /etc/brlapi.key file not empty? Is the brltty daemon running? Samuel -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1099309 Title: [Quantal and Raring] Brltty native braille support doesn't work with Orca To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/brltty/+bug/1099309/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 521877]
Let me disagree: I keep using my laptop either on a 17 monitor, or on a 21 monitor, or on the internal LVDS. In both 17 and 21 monitor cases, I do want 100% zoom to really mean 100% zoom, so I need correct DPI. Your reasoning leads to having to modify xorg.conf each time I switch, which means twice per day in my case... -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/521877 Title: [gm45] wrong screen size detected on X200s To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/521877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 521877]
Why should it have to care about screen size? 100% zoom is supposed to be app DPI matches screen DPI, it has nothing to do with the whole screen. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/521877 Title: [gm45] wrong screen size detected on X200s To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/521877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1029864] Re: read error appears from btltty during precise server iso testing
This is fixed in debian's latest upload. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1029864 Title: read error appears from btltty during precise server iso testing To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/brltty/+bug/1029864/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 543651] Re: [needs-packaging] mbrola-voices
I still don't think it will fly: - either the user is not knowledged about mbrola voices, and he will just install mbrola-nl* and wonder for a long time why they do not show up in high-level speech interfaces. - or he is knowledged about mbrola voices, he will have to be anyway, to use these voices, since no tool exists to use them, and he is actually already able to fetch voices from the mbrola website. In short: shipping mbrola-nl* will not help people who wouldn't know about to fetch them from the mbrola website anyway. So it won't help anybody. If we were to upload mbrola-nl*, we should as well upload *all* mbrola voices, which is very big, and only to bring frustration to users which will wonder why these voices don't actually work. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/543651 Title: [needs-packaging] mbrola-voices To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/543651/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 543651] Re: [needs-packaging] mbrola-voices
Yes, mbrola alone will permit to read some existing phoneme files, but as I said, we still lack a tool to *produce* nl1/2/3 phoneme files. Put another way: how to start from a Dutch text and get mbrola to speak it? I don't know any free tool to produce nl1/2/3 phoneme files that mbrola would then be able to speak. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/543651 Title: [needs-packaging] mbrola-voices To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/543651/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 874181] Re: brltty daemon prevents creation of ttyUSB0 device link
Dave Mielke, le Mon 14 Nov 2011 09:38:57 -0500, a écrit : I'm going to try to figure out if we can get to the virtual serial device from knowledge of which USB device is being used. If we can, that should solve the problem. If anyone already knows how to do it, please let me know. Mmm, didn't you receive my mail dated Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 17:13:21 +0100 ? “ there is a /sys/bus/usb/devices/2-1.1.1/2-1.1.1:1.0/ttyUSB0 directory. Conversely, /sys/dev/char/188:0 is a symlink to ../../devices/pci:00/:00:1d.0/usb2/2-1/2-1.1/2-1.1.1/2-1.1.1:1.0/ttyUSB0/tty/ttyUSB0/ ” “ That however will still let brltty emit some characters to the device, which can probably upset it. ” and the latter is probably already a very bad thing for whatever device is connected to the serial converter. Samuel -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/874181 Title: brltty daemon prevents creation of ttyUSB0 device link To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/brltty/+bug/874181/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 874181] Re: brltty daemon prevents creation of ttyUSB0 device link
Dave Mielke, le Wed 09 Nov 2011 10:06:24 -0500, a écrit : [quoted lines by Samuel Thibault on 2011/11/09 at 15:14 +0100] Err, precedence, really? Won't that let brltty still start? Sure. It'd only be a problem for that one particular model of braille device. In that particular case, users could still manually start brltty, in which case it'd still claim the device. Err, there must be a misunderstanding. I was suggesting that the solution you propose will actually *not* prevent brltty from starting, since the brltty udev rules will still set RUN, and I don't think the generic rule for serial ports will clear it. Samuel -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/874181 Title: brltty daemon prevents creation of ttyUSB0 device link To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/brltty/+bug/874181/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 874181] Re: brltty daemon prevents creation of ttyUSB0 device link
Dave Mielke, le Wed 09 Nov 2011 10:44:57 -0500, a écrit : I wonder if there's a way to figure out which serial device is associated with a given USB device. I believe so: I've just plugged a converter: [161835.668469] usb 2-1.1.1: new full speed USB device number 9 using ehci_hcd [161835.765607] usb 2-1.1.1: New USB device found, idVendor=0403, idProduct=6001 [161835.765612] usb 2-1.1.1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 [161835.765616] usb 2-1.1.1: Product: USB SERIAL CONVERTER [161835.765618] usb 2-1.1.1: Manufacturer: FTDI [161835.765621] usb 2-1.1.1: SerialNumber: ftCEGJTT [161835.893841] usbcore: registered new interface driver usbserial [161835.893866] USB Serial support registered for generic [161835.893926] usbcore: registered new interface driver usbserial_generic [161835.893928] usbserial: USB Serial Driver core [161835.899462] USB Serial support registered for FTDI USB Serial Device [161835.899774] ftdi_sio 2-1.1.1:1.0: FTDI USB Serial Device converter detected [161835.899813] usb 2-1.1.1: Detected FT232BM [161835.899815] usb 2-1.1.1: Number of endpoints 2 [161835.899818] usb 2-1.1.1: Endpoint 1 MaxPacketSize 64 [161835.899821] usb 2-1.1.1: Endpoint 2 MaxPacketSize 64 [161835.899823] usb 2-1.1.1: Setting MaxPacketSize 64 [161835.900162] usb 2-1.1.1: FTDI USB Serial Device converter now attached to ttyUSB0 [161835.900178] usbcore: registered new interface driver ftdi_sio [161835.900181] ftdi_sio: v1.6.0:USB FTDI Serial Converters Driver and there is a /sys/bus/usb/devices/2-1.1.1/2-1.1.1:1.0/ttyUSB0 directory. Conversely, /sys/dev/char/188:0 is a symlink to ../../devices/pci:00/:00:1d.0/usb2/2-1/2-1.1/2-1.1.1/2-1.1.1:1.0/ttyUSB0/tty/ttyUSB0/ If so, perhaps brltty could make that translation and then automatically switch to sertal I/O using the device. That however will still let brltty emit some characters to the device, which can probably upset it. I don't have a USB to serial adapter here to check. Maybe I should just go spend some money and get one. That's a useful thing to have under hand anyway :) Samuel -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/874181 Title: brltty daemon prevents creation of ttyUSB0 device link To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/brltty/+bug/874181/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 874181] Re: brltty daemon prevents creation of ttyUSB0 device link
Harry Bloomberg, le Wed 09 Nov 2011 03:56:09 -, a écrit : I too wasted a week of my finite life chasing after this. I know of no other operating system in widespread usage that comes configured by default like this. Yes, and that's a shame. There is no reason why a braille device shouldn't be recognized automatically by an operating system, just like the VGA screen, a USB key, etc. Of course, I *don't* mean that in the case where there is a USB ID conflict brltty should be triggered. Luke has just commited the change to fix that in the current case. But it's not because there are some conflicts sometimes that the whole thing should be dropped!! People should just test Ubuntu before it gets released, to fix such bugs. I think a worthwhile compromise would be a sub-distribution of Ubuntu aimed specifically at the sightless accompanied with an easy-to-follow document on how to make mainstream Ubuntu usable for the sightless. No, no, and again, no. That has been done for years, and no, it does not work on the long term. Samuel -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/874181 Title: brltty daemon prevents creation of ttyUSB0 device link To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/brltty/+bug/874181/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 874181] Re: brltty daemon prevents creation of ttyUSB0 device link
ironfisher, le Wed 09 Nov 2011 13:11:06 -, a écrit : Dave Mielke d...@mielke.cc wrote: Strictly speaking, yes, brltty is causing the problem. An easy solution, though, would be for Ubuntu to give brltty's udev file an earlier position in the udev rules file processing order so that the generic rule will take precedence. Err, precedence, really? Won't that let brltty still start? Samuel -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/874181 Title: brltty daemon prevents creation of ttyUSB0 device link To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/brltty/+bug/874181/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 874181] Re: brltty daemon prevents creation of ttyUSB0 device link
ironfisher, le Tue 08 Nov 2011 18:12:59 -, a écrit : Let's deactivate BRLTTY default Please don't do that. It'd make way harder for blind people to use Ubuntu. or contact with BRLTTY developers to not claim the USB interface by default. That is already what I proposed: comment the entry in the udev rule file, just like is already done for some of the handytech devices. Samuel -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/874181 Title: brltty daemon prevents creation of ttyUSB0 device link To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/brltty/+bug/874181/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 874181] Re: brltty daemon prevents creation of ttyUSB0 device link
Hazuki Amamiya, le Wed 09 Nov 2011 01:20:22 -, a écrit : I wasted over a week's time to find out why my LCD display not working properly before I get to here. I's say the brltty is too aggressive and since brltty has no intention to fix this problem (this issue repeat and repeat and repeat again for past few years!) brltty is no culprit at all. There is just no way for us to know whether braille manufacturer sanely label their USB device with a unique USB ID. It's only when people report conflict that we can know about it, and disable it, which is what Luke has just done. brltty has no intention to fix this problem is thus just FUD. so I agree that brltty should be disable by default. Simply, no. It may have taken you a week to solve the issue, but for blind people it's eternity that would take them to manage to use their computer without brltty. I understand that the people with visual impairment might find it difficult to use Ubuntu by disabling brltty by default, but which group has more population? Please don't just count oranges apples. For the people with visual impairment they can call the assistance right away, Simply, no. There's not always somebody that is able to make sense of what is displayed on the screen. but how about us!? I spent a week! Yes, a week! And blind people would spend way more time. And how about the GPS device company? I can imagine they are frustrated by this problem and probably might want to tell the customer that Ubuntu is not a good OS for use with GPS. They should simply have *tested* ubuntu before its release, so that the bug would have been spotted earlier, and fixed *before* the release. Samuel -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/874181 Title: brltty daemon prevents creation of ttyUSB0 device link To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/brltty/+bug/874181/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 874181] Re: brltty daemon prevents creation of ttyUSB0 device link
Harry Bloomberg, le Mon 24 Oct 2011 01:21:32 -, a écrit : Bus 003 Device 005: ID 10c4:ea60 Cygnal Integrated Products, Inc. CP210x Composite Device Ok, it's indeed the same. Samuel -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/874181 Title: brltty daemon prevents creation of ttyUSB0 device link To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/brltty/+bug/874181/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 874181] Re: brltty daemon prevents creation of ttyUSB0 device link
Harry Bloomberg, le Sat 22 Oct 2011 18:00:13 -, a écrit : I think it's usb 2. I mean the output of lsusb, e.g. Bus 002 Device 008: ID 046d:c050 Logitech, Inc. RX 250 Optical Mouse my mouse has USB ID 046d:c050. Samuel -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/874181 Title: brltty daemon prevents creation of ttyUSB0 device link To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/brltty/+bug/874181/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 874181] Re: brltty daemon prevents creation of ttyUSB0 device link
Harry Bloomberg, le Sat 22 Oct 2011 01:09:47 -, a écrit : I'm seeing the exact same thing with an Icom IC-7200 amateur radio tranceiver. What is the USB ID of that device? Samuel -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/874181 Title: brltty daemon prevents creation of ttyUSB0 device link To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/brltty/+bug/874181/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 874181] Re: brltty daemon prevents creation of ttyUSB0 device link
Christian Weiske, le Sun 16 Oct 2011 09:09:15 -, a écrit : Same problem here with an ELV USB-WDE1 weather data receiver. What is its USB ID? Samuel -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/874181 Title: brltty daemon prevents creation of ttyUSB0 device link To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/brltty/+bug/874181/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 874181] [NEW] brltty daemon prevents creation of ttyUSB0 device link
Berend Dekens, le Fri 14 Oct 2011 12:45:29 -, a écrit : After upgrading from Ubuntu 11.04 to 11.10, I no longer found a '/dev/ttyUSB0' for my serial-to-USB converter. The device is part of a Xilinx FPGA board and is a 10c4:ea60 Cygnal Integrated Products, Inc. CP210x Composite Device. Grmbl. This is yet another case of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/brltty/+bug/153662 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal/+bug/175182 and similar. Yes, the fix is to remove brltty. As I explained in 153662, it's hard for blind people do debug why their braille device doesn't work since it's that precise braille device which allows them to access the machine... Luke, you need to comment that entry from the udev rules file too. BTW, I see that you have commented the 0401:6001 entry from the udeb version of the udev rules too. I don't think it's really necessary: will really people use a usb-to-serial converter to install Ubuntu nowadays? While people using Seika or some HandyTech devices do need to install Ubuntu with them. Samuel -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/874181 Title: brltty daemon prevents creation of ttyUSB0 device link To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/brltty/+bug/874181/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 502947] Re: Please replace some hungarian specific table files with Brltty
** Changed in: brltty (Ubuntu) Status: Expired = Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/502947 Title: Please replace some hungarian specific table files with Brltty -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 165245] Re: [needs-packaging] festival-mbrola
Ok, packaged, successfully tested, and uploaded. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/165245 Title: [needs-packaging] festival-mbrola -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 543651] Re: [needs-packaging] mbrola-voices
Mmm, I don't see how you could use nl1 and nl3. Could you explain how you proceed? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/543651 Title: [needs-packaging] mbrola-voices -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 165245] Re: [needs-packaging] festival-mbrola
I'll ITP the festvox-us1, festvox-us2, festvox-us3, festvox-en1 series of package, each containing just the file. Yes, I'll reference the LP number. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/165245 Title: [needs-packaging] festival-mbrola -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 543651] Re: [needs-packaging] mbrola-voices
Mmm, what do you mean by in the meanwhile? About nl1, nl3, it is not really useful, since we do not currently have tools to produce the phoneme files for them (espeak supports only nl2) About us3, it's already packaged in Debian, Ubuntu just needs to inherit it. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/543651 Title: [needs-packaging] mbrola-voices -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 543651] Re: [needs-packaging] mbrola-voices
I'm not sure to understand what you mean by a mbrola-voices package, and in particular, mbrola package has already a suggestion for this package on Karmic, even though this package still needs to be created.: mbrola suggests mbrola-voice (provided by all mbrola voice packages), not mbrola-voices. Would mrbola-voices just be a meta-package which depends on all the voices available in Ubuntu? Since that would result in installing several hundreds of Megabytes, I'm not sure it would really be useful to have. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/543651 Title: [needs-packaging] mbrola-voices -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 165245] Re: [needs-packaging] festival-mbrola
Err, why having to complete 543651 first? To get a much better fine- grain dependency, festival-mbrola should rather build a series of packages, one for each language, each of which depending on the corresponding mbrola voice package. If you depend on all the mbrola voices at once, you'll get several MiB installation while only 4 languages are supported so far. Apart from that, yes it's probably a good idea to package festival- mbrola (though the /usr/local parts of paths are probably wrong :) ). I would suggest to maintain it in a repository shared with Debian. I don't know the ubuntu possibilites, but alioth.debian.org happily greets and give write access to guests. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/165245 Title: [needs-packaging] festival-mbrola -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 174283] Re: rm does not preserve root by default
Could people have a look at standards instead of trolling? SUSv4 adds the following exception: « if an operand resolves to the root directory, rm shall write a diagnostic message to standard error and do nothing more with such operands. » -- rm does not preserve root by default https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/174283 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 312418] Re: doesn't refresh automatically on duplicating a file
This seems to be fixed in version 2.10.11 of gthumb. ** Changed in: gthumb (Ubuntu) Status: Invalid = Fix Released -- doesn't refresh automatically on duplicating a file https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/312418 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 541723] Re: About dialog missing
Err, I'm not developper of the software... Could you please directly report to Eitan Isaacson ei...@ascender.com instead? Same for the crash bug. -- About dialog missing https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/541723 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 502947] Re: Please replace some hungarian specific table files with Brltty
It has been commited upstream, ready for future 4.2 -- Please replace some hungarian specific table files with Brltty https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/502947 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 502947] Re: Please replace some hungarian specific table files with Brltty
Could you consider to discuss on brl...@mielke.cc for proper upstream inclusion? I guess my old table could just be discarded and replaced by yours... -- Please replace some hungarian specific table files with Brltty https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/502947 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 502947] Re: Please replace some hungarian specific table files with Brltty
Ah, the list is poster-only. It'd be better if you subscribed to it so you can perhaps discuss yourself with other hungarian people on the list about the table. Once it is in the upstream package on mielke.cc, it will automatically propagate to Ubuntu other distributions when they upgrade. -- Please replace some hungarian specific table files with Brltty https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/502947 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 491775] Re: udevd errors in /lib/udev/rules.d/85-brltty.rules
Fixed in Debian's 4.1-2 -- udevd errors in /lib/udev/rules.d/85-brltty.rules https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/491775 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 450176] [NEW] update-rc.d warnings: runlevel arguments
arky, le Tue 13 Oct 2009 08:44:25 -, a écrit : update-rc.d: warning: brltty stop runlevel arguments (none) do not match LSB Default-Stop values (0 6) this is fixed in debian's 4.0-9 and later (Bug#548550). Samuel -- update-rc.d warnings: runlevel arguments https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/450176 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 450176] Re: update-rc.d warnings: runlevel arguments
arky, le Tue 13 Oct 2009 08:46:45 -, a écrit : $ grep Default-Start /etc/init.d/brltty # Default-Start: S Default-Start should be a number Errr, for S script, no. -- update-rc.d warnings: runlevel arguments https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/450176 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 439138] Re: [karmic] Xorg 100% CPU utilization -- only after first login
Steve Langasek, le Tue 13 Oct 2009 22:40:44 -, a écrit : Making the gdm and kdm jobs depend on cryptsetup is not a solution because cryptsetup is optional and depending on an optional job doesn't DTRT. insserv's Should-Start is exactly that and works exactly as would be expected here. -- [karmic] Xorg 100% CPU utilization -- only after first login https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/439138 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 439138] Re: [karmic] Xorg 100% CPU utilization -- only after first login
Steve Langasek, le Tue 13 Oct 2009 23:14:50 -, a écrit : On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 11:00:14PM -, Samuel thibault wrote: Steve Langasek, le Tue 13 Oct 2009 22:40:44 -, a écrit : Making the gdm and kdm jobs depend on cryptsetup is not a solution because cryptsetup is optional and depending on an optional job doesn't DTRT. insserv's Should-Start is exactly that and works exactly as would be expected here. And? We're not using insserv. Telling us about features of boot systems we're not using doesn't help us with solving this bug. It helps in showing that it's not insane and actually probably helpful to request the feature from upstart. -- [karmic] Xorg 100% CPU utilization -- only after first login https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/439138 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 439138] Re: [karmic] Xorg 100% CPU utilization -- only after first login
Scott James Remnant, le Mon 12 Oct 2009 12:38:20 -, a écrit : On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 14:49 +, Tom Jaeger wrote: Does upstart ensure that only one 'console owner' job can run at the same time? I assume it would also be a problem if one 'console owner' job took away the console from another one. In this case, couldn't we just make gdm/kdm 'console owner' jobs as well? gdm isn't console owner though ;-) in fact, it can't be because the X job it creates has to be the console owner - and you'd cause the same bug with gdm/X that you have with cryptsetup/X now Mmm, except that gdm keeps the console open throughout its execution, doesn't it? In such case there wouldn't be any hangup. Samuel -- [karmic] Xorg 100% CPU utilization -- only after first login https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/439138 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 439138] Re: [karmic] Xorg 100% CPU utilization -- only after first login
Tom Jaeger, le Sun 11 Oct 2009 03:39:24 -, a écrit : Scott James Remnant wrote: That precisely fits the problem definition. console owner while X is running while forcibly take the ownership of tty7 away from X. It doesn't like that so much (cf. this bug) So this is essentially bug #60487 (!). Any thoughts on a solution? X really needs its console fd. I don't know cryptsetup and slash, but can't Xorg just wait for the termination of that? Samuel -- [karmic] Xorg 100% CPU utilization -- only after first login https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/439138 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 439138] Re: [karmic] Xorg 100% CPU utilization -- only after first login
Steve Langasek, le Sun 11 Oct 2009 08:46:37 -, a écrit : On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 07:37:09AM -, Samuel thibault wrote: I don't know cryptsetup and slash, but can't Xorg just wait for the termination of that? The problem is that cryptsetup isn't guaranteed to be installed, and upstart doesn't give a straightforward way for gdm to wait on cryptsetup if it's installed but ignore it otherwise. ?! I'm surprised because insserv does support that easily and it's very much used in Debian. Samuel -- [karmic] Xorg 100% CPU utilization -- only after first login https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/439138 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 439138] Re: [karmic] Xorg 100% CPU utilization -- only after first login
Bryce Harrington, le Thu 08 Oct 2009 00:39:09 -, a écrit : On Wed, Oct 07, 2009 at 11:46:20PM -, Samuel thibault wrote: Bryce Harrington, le Wed 07 Oct 2009 23:31:46 -, a ??crit : On Wed, Oct 07, 2009 at 10:44:02PM -, Samuel thibault wrote: Bryce Harrington, le Wed 07 Oct 2009 22:30:13 -, a ??crit : On Wed, Oct 07, 2009 at 10:13:20PM -, Samuel thibault wrote: Hi Samuel, would mind proposing a patch? I'm a bit of a novice with upstart scripting, and fairly distracted by mesa at the moment. It should just be a matter of adding keymaps.sh and console-setup to the Should-Start field of the /etc/init.d/gdm,kdm,xdm scripts That sounds like it's getting a bit out of the scope of this bug report. ? It's precisely in scope: as I said, Xorg gets EIO because the tty gets a hung up after Xorg is started, most probably because the console initialization scripts may get started after Xorg is started. No, patching gdm and kdm is well outside the scope of xorg-server, which is what this bug is filed against. If you believe this to be the only way to solve it, the bug should be refiled against those packages. Yes I do, see my comments: I believe Xorg just gets started too early, before the console is setup, and that's gdm/xdm/kdm's responsibility. -- [karmic] Xorg 100% CPU utilization -- only after first login https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/439138 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 439138] Re: [karmic] Xorg 100% CPU utilization -- only after first login
Bryce: please also add a dependency on the console configuration scripts, as while waiting for acpi probably helps to wait for the console configuration, it'd be better to really make sure gdm doesn't start before it. -- [karmic] Xorg 100% CPU utilization -- only after first login https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/439138 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 439138] Re: [karmic] Xorg 100% CPU utilization -- only after first login
Bryce Harrington, le Wed 07 Oct 2009 22:30:13 -, a écrit : On Wed, Oct 07, 2009 at 10:13:20PM -, Samuel thibault wrote: Bryce: please also add a dependency on the console configuration scripts, as while waiting for acpi probably helps to wait for the console configuration, it'd be better to really make sure gdm doesn't start before it. Hi Samuel, would mind proposing a patch? I'm a bit of a novice with upstart scripting, and fairly distracted by mesa at the moment. It should just be a matter of adding keymaps.sh and console-setup to the Should-Start field of the /etc/init.d/gdm,kdm,xdm scripts -- [karmic] Xorg 100% CPU utilization -- only after first login https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/439138 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 439138] Re: [karmic] Xorg 100% CPU utilization -- only after first login
Bryce Harrington, le Wed 07 Oct 2009 23:31:46 -, a écrit : On Wed, Oct 07, 2009 at 10:44:02PM -, Samuel thibault wrote: Bryce Harrington, le Wed 07 Oct 2009 22:30:13 -, a ??crit : On Wed, Oct 07, 2009 at 10:13:20PM -, Samuel thibault wrote: Bryce: please also add a dependency on the console configuration scripts, as while waiting for acpi probably helps to wait for the console configuration, it'd be better to really make sure gdm doesn't start before it. Hi Samuel, would mind proposing a patch? I'm a bit of a novice with upstart scripting, and fairly distracted by mesa at the moment. It should just be a matter of adding keymaps.sh and console-setup to the Should-Start field of the /etc/init.d/gdm,kdm,xdm scripts That sounds like it's getting a bit out of the scope of this bug report. ? It's precisely in scope: as I said, Xorg gets EIO because the tty gets a hung up after Xorg is started, most probably because the console initialization scripts may get started after Xorg is started. -- [karmic] Xorg 100% CPU utilization -- only after first login https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/439138 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 439138] Re: [karmic] Xorg 100% CPU utilization -- only after first login
Tom Jaeger, did you actually notice switching VT not working? Could you get an strace of that happening? Could people getting the error check /proc/`pidof X`/status? Here I have SigIgn: 10301000 The important part is the 3. If the 3 is not there it's normal that tcflush() return EIO for the console: because X starts its own session alone, it is an orphaned group. A good fix could be to just re-enable the TIOCNOTTY part from xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/linux/lnx_init.c which got dropped for no apparent good reason, while here we have a good reason to ignore all the controlling terminal semantic. -- [karmic] Xorg 100% CPU utilization -- only after first login https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/439138 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 439138] Re: [karmic] Xorg 100% CPU utilization -- only after first login
Mmm, ok, this can only happen when the ioctl handler is hung_up_tty_ioctl, i.e. the tty got hung up after Xorg opened it, most probably because with the parallel start in upstart the console may get tinkered with after Xorg gets started. After an Xorg restart (or equivalently, login/logout), no problem since no hung-up. -- [karmic] Xorg 100% CPU utilization -- only after first login https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/439138 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 439138] Re: [karmic] Xorg 100% CPU utilization -- only after first login
Tom Jaeger, le Wed 07 Oct 2009 00:29:13 -, a écrit : Samuel thibault wrote: Could people getting the error check /proc/`pidof X`/status? Here I have SigIgn: 10301000 The important part is the 3. If the 3 is not there it's normal that tcflush() return EIO for the console: because X starts its own session alone, it is an orphaned group. SigIgn: 00301000 It seems that I can reproduce the issue again, let me know if I should run some more tests. Ok, so the issue is really not tcflush() itself only, but a tty hungup, with no other real solution than just making Xorg depend on the console setup. -- [karmic] Xorg 100% CPU utilization -- only after first login https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/439138 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 199688] Re: Crash on start with X11 driver
The fix is in revision 4415 of the subversion repository. Jaunty only has revision 4301. -- Crash on start with X11 driver https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/199688 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 120748] Re: Full-screen magnification support
Yes. -- Full-screen magnification support https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/120748 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
