[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2014-05-02 Thread Tralalalala
In LibreOffice Bugzilla #48783, TenLeftFingers (tenleftfingers) wrote on
2012-09-30:

"However on MacOS 10.8 (Mountain Lion) this issue is not reproducible.
The clipboard contents are preserved on exit."

Of course, because OS X is a proper operating system with a clipboard
that always, because of the way it's implemented in the operating system
itself. It has been said many times: A clipboard should be a feature of
the operating system itself and applications shouldn't have to write
code to make copy/paste work. Write an application for Windows, OS X or
even iOS and copy/paste just works. There's no need for the developers
to implement this feature to make copy/paste work.

That's why Linux is such a useless operating system.

In LibreOffice Bugzilla #48783, L-lunak-w (l-lunak-w) wrote on
2014-04-25:

"This is a consequence of the X11 clipboard design and not LibreOffice
specific. As such, there's not much LibreOffice itself can do about this
on its own."

You shouldn't even do something. Just don't fix it. It's absolutely
ridiculous all applications have to be "fixed" by its developers. I
surrounded "fixed" by quotation marks, because of course the
applications are not broken at all. It's the operating system itself
that's broken and they refuse to fix their crappy operating system and
expect all developers to write code to make copy/paste work on their
piece of shit called Linux. I'd say they can go fuck themselves. Just
spend your time on Windows and OS X. Just don't give a single shit about
Linux, just like 99,5% of the world doesn't give a shit about Linux.
It's a useless piece of crap that doesn't even deserve developers who
spend time writing software for it. Developers should just write
software for Windows and OS X and ignore that fucking piece of shit.

I click on "Post Comment" and Launchpad says:

"Error
Timeout error, please try again in a few minutes."

How surprisingly, something developed by Linux developers doesn't work.
Fucking losers.

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[Bug 12154] Re: Nautilus should have a superuser mode

2012-10-29 Thread Tralalalala
To those Linux developers every issue seems complex and Ubuntu (and
Linux in general) is full of usability issues which exist for as long as
Linux exists.

I just stopped using this crap. Everyone should do that. Stop using
Linux on the desktop and stop the development, because Linux on the
desktop sucks.

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[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2012-10-11 Thread Tralalalala
This bug doesn't affect me anymore. I stopped using this crappy open
source shit and I've bought a Mac which just works. Problem solved.

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[Bug 122118] Re: MASTER Pressing Ctrl+W once closes all tabs, one by one

2012-10-11 Thread Tralalalala
This bug doesn't affect me anymore. I stopped using this crappy open
source shit and I've bought a Mac which just works. Problem solved.

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[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2011-03-15 Thread Tralalalala
"Please stop the abuse. It is not helpful at all. Please see the code of
conduct."

Like it's possible to post anything helpfull on this bug report. This
bug isn't fixed after all those years and even in the year 2024 this bug
will not be fixed. It's completely impossible to post anything helpfull
here, because this bug (like so many other annoying bugs in Ubuntu (and
Linux in general)) won't be fixed.

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[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2011-03-05 Thread Tralalalala
Slated, you're just another open source idiot who thinks open source
programmers do everything the right way. In your opinion Linux does
everything right and other operating systems are designed in a very bad
and unsecure way. Those open source idiots do everything they can to
defend Linux and open source. Even for the biggest and most stupid bugs
they try to find a reason why it isn't a bug, but instead a great design
feature of those open source programmers and of course the way it's
implemented in Linux is way better than the way it's implemented in
other operating systems.

Please, slated, use your brains. Everyone can see the Linux way of
implementing copy / paste is the most stupid design error ever made in
an operating system. Copy / paste has to be implemented in the core of
every operating sysrtem! It's completely ridiculous to expect developers
of every single application to implement support for the Linux way of
copy / paste. A developer of an application shouldn't have to worry
about implementing copy / paste into his application. This support has
to be there out of the box. The operating system itself should handle
this.

If Linux doesn't get core functionality like copy / paste done right,
it'll never get more than 1% of market share. Every year you hear it's
going to be the year of Linux on the desktop, but Linux has been hugging
the 1% of market share for years now. The market share isn't growing and
if Linux doesn't get these core features of an operating sytem
implemented the right way, its market share will never exceed 1%. In the
year 2053 Linux will still have a market share of 0.94% or something
like that. Well, in my opinion that's already 0.94% too much market
share. An operating system which sticks to ideas from the 1980's and is
developed by people who think like slated just doesn't deserve any
market share at all.

People, just use a proper operating system. Use Mac OS X. Every Linux
distribution just sucks.

There's pyrates again, the only Launchpad member who uses his brains.
The only person here on Launchpad who really knows what he's talking
about. Again, you've written a really good comment and I couldn't agree
more.

Kiki, to have this bug fixed like it needs to be fixed, there have to be
made changes to Xorg. Fixing this bug for every single just isn't the
right way to fix this bug. Actually it wouldn't even be a bug fix, but
just a workaround to have those applications work without actually
fixing the bug itself.

The workaround of implementing copy / paste in every application is
completely ridiculous. There are thousands of applications which can be
installed in Ubuntu. You can't implement this functionality in all of
those applications. After all those years copy / paste has only been
implemented in a couple of applications. There are thousands of
applications left to be fixed. Besides those existing applications,
there's the problem of new applications being released every year.
Almost every new application which is released doesn't have copy / paste
implemented. After a new application has been released users have to be
complaining for years to have copy / paste implemented. Firefox is one
of the most used applications and it has taken years before copy / paste
was finally implemented (actually we are still waiting, because Firefox
4 stable still hasn't been released). OpenOffice.org is also used a lot
on Linux, but it still hasn't copy / paste implemented after all those
years! How long do you think it'll take to implement copy / paste in
every application? That's just completely impossible.

You can't fix this bug by implementing copy / paste in every
application. It just needs to be fixed at the core!

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[Bug 51043] Re: ListView - Context-menu options missing when pointer is above files/folders

2010-12-06 Thread Tralalalala
It doesn't matter what kind of comments are being posted. The bug won't
be fixed anyway.

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[Bug 51043] Re: ListView - Context-menu options missing when pointer is above files/folders

2010-12-03 Thread Tralalalala
"Are you using gnome or any other OS software at all?"

Yes, I've been using Gnome / Ubuntu for three years now. In those years
I've experienced a lot of bugs and I haven't seen any of all those bugs
being fixed. A lot of those bugs are really serious bugs (contents of
clipboard being lost after closing the source application, anyone?) and
/ or bugs which were reported almost TEN YEARS ago, but still there
isn't any progress. That's just completely ridiculous.

Then why do I use Gnome / Ubuntu? I hate Microsoft and don't want to
support them in any way, so that's why I don't use Windows. The most
common alternatives are Mac OS X and Linux. For Mac OS X you have to buy
a Mac, so I can't run it on the PC I already own. That's why I installed
Linux. When I had enough money, I bought a Mac. Linux was just a bridge
between the Windows era and the Mac era, but it was a very rickety
bridge. I've still got my PC with Ubuntu on it, but my Mac is so much
better.

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[Bug 51043] Re: ListView - Context-menu options missing when pointer is above files/folders

2010-12-02 Thread Tralalalala
@wribeiro:

They won't. That's why open source software sucks. Someone or some
people start a project and then release something which is full of bugs
and then they have some great ideas they want to work on and start
developing those great features, but they don't like to fix bugs and
because it's open source the developer(s) just say: "It's open source,
so fix it yourself if it's bothers you."

I hate that mentality of open source developers. They only care about
the features they want to see implemented, but they really don't care
about fixing bugs, even if those bugs still aren't fixed after ten
years. The bugs don't bother them, so they just don't fix them. If you
want them to be fixed, then you'll have to do it yourself.

Do they really think everyone has programming skills? Besides that: If
you develop something, then release something usefull or don't release
anything at all. If you don't want to listen to your users and don't
care about fixing bugs, then just keep the software and code for
yourself. Just use it on your own computer and don't release anything at
all. Only release your software to the public if you're willing to
listen to the people who use it and are willing to fix the bugs they
report.

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[Bug 51043] Re: ListView - Context-menu options missing when pointer is above files/folders

2010-07-04 Thread Tralalalala
The one hundred paper cuts project wants to improve the File management
user-experience in Nautilus for Ubuntu 10.10.

How about finally fixing this bug? This bug is bothering people for
years now.

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[Bug 563226] Re: Nautilus Ctrl+Q to close all windows instead of Ctrl+Shift+W

2010-07-04 Thread Tralalalala
The developers just copied the shortcuts from Mac OS X, replacing
Command with Control.

In Mac OS X Command + Q quits an application and Command W closes a
window. In Mac OS X this is logical, because clicking the red dot (the
close button) only closes the window while the application itself stays
active.

So, closing Firefox by clicking the close button only closes the window.
The application itself keeps running. Clicking the close button is the
same as using the keyboard combination Command + W.

To completely quit Firefox, you need to go to the menu bar, click on
"Firefox" and then choose "Quit" or you can use Command + Q.

Ubuntu works completely different. Closing Firefox by clicking the close
button completely quits firefox (unless you've got more than one open
window). After clicking the close button the Firefox process is
completely terminated and there's no sign of any activity of Firefox in
the window switcher. In Mac OS X it's completely different. After
clicking the close button, you can see the Firefox process is still
running, as there's a little dot underneath the Firefox icon in the
Dock.

If the user closes Nautilus by clicking the close button, there's no
sign of any activity in the window switcher. For the user it doesn't
matter if the process is still running. The user looks at the window
switcher at the botom of the screen and sees no activity of Nautilus.
So, for the user clicking the close button is the same as quiting the
application. It's just like in Windows. The process explorer.exe is
always running, but for the user there's no sign of this process being
active (except when looking in the Task Manager). In Mac OS X this is
completely different. In Mac OS X there's always a little dot underneath
the Finder icon in the Dock. It's clear to the user this application is
always running. When clicking on "Finder" in the menu bar, there's no
option to Quit the Finder. It's logical for Finder not to use the
keyboard shortcut Command + Q.

Ubuntu isn't Mac OS X. In Ubuntu the default is to completely terminate
an application, while in Mac OS X the default is to keep the application
active. In Ubuntu there's ni sign for the user of Nautilus still being
active, while on Mac OS X the Finder icon is ALWAYS in the Dock and
ALWAYS has a little dot underneath the icon.

That's why Nautilus shouldn't copy the shortcuts from Mac OS X. Nautilus
should close using Control + Q, just like Firefox.

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[Bug 445123] Re: No GUI option to disable face browser

2010-04-09 Thread Tralalalala
I don't see how the alternative login screen has usability issues. The
day the patch was pushed I immediately disabled the face browser. Then
the patch was removed, but I'm still using the alternative login screen
on my testing machine. I can't find any usability issues.

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[Bug 445123] Re: No GUI option to disable face browser

2010-04-07 Thread Tralalalala
With the patch removed and no more activity anymore on this bug, I think
we can state Ubuntu 10.04 will be released without an option to disable
this annoying and insecure face browser and we'll have to wait for
Ubuntu 10.10 to be able to disable this face browser using a GUI
(because ONE LITTLE CHECK MARK IS A COMPLETELY NEW FEATURE and thus will
never be put in Ubuntu 10.04). Yet another epic fail.

I don't know how to program, but for someone who knows how to program
this must be one of the easiest things to fix. There's already a patch
available. Just change a little bit of the code, so the check box is
checked by default, instead of unchecked and you're done. Put this
option in Ubuntu 10.04!!!

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[Bug 554887] Re: Inconsistent mouse over behavior on minimize/maximize/close buttons

2010-04-05 Thread Tralalalala
Changing status to Fix Released. Todays update (0.1.6.3) fixed this bug.

** Changed in: light-themes (Ubuntu)
   Status: Incomplete => Fix Released

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[Bug 554887] Re: Inconsistent mouse over behavior on minimize/maximize/close buttons

2010-04-05 Thread Tralalalala
In the first image the cursor isn't hovering above any of the buttons.
In the second image the cursor is above the square. As you can see, the square 
is now somewhat darker compared to when the cursor wasn't hovering the button.
In the third image the cursor is above the down arrow. Because the cursor is 
hovering this arrow, the arrow now looks more dark and the square looks grey 
again. But also look at the close button. Both the minimize button and the 
close button have a darker color than the first button. The square is grey, 
while both other buttons have the dark color. If you'd show me the third image 
and ask me the question: "Above which button is the cursor hovering?" I'd 
answer: "Above the square, because that button looks somewhat greyed out and 
the other two don't."
In the fourth image the mouse is hovering above the close button. As you can 
see, the X now has a grey color, while in the above three images the X had the 
dark color. This button looks greyed out when the mouse is hovering it. This is 
exactly the opposite as the behavior of the other two buttons. The square and 
the down arrow are grey when the mouse isn't hovering the buttons, while the X 
has a dark color. When you place your cursor above the square or the down arrow 
their color change from grey to black, while the color of the X changes from 
black to grey.
In the fourth image the square, the down arrow and the X appear to have the 
same color. It doesn't look like the cursor is hovering one of these butons, 
although is mouse pointer is above the X.

** Attachment added: "Buttons.png"
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[Bug 554887] [NEW] Inconsistent mouse over behavior on minimize/maximize/close buttons

2010-04-03 Thread Tralalalala
Public bug reported:

Binary package hint: light-themes

I'm using the Radiance theme and I'm seeing the following inconsistency:
The mouse over effect of the close button of an active window doesn't behave 
like the other window controls. By default the minimize, maximize and close 
buttons are somewhat blurred. When you place your cursor over one of these 
buttons, the buttons get unblurred. The close button of active windows behaves 
in the opposite way: The button is already unblurred by default, but it gets 
blurred when the cursor is over the button.

The minimize and maximize buttons are white with a grey symbol (an arrow
down, an arrow up or a squre) so they look somewhat blurred. Now hover
the cursor over these buttons and you'll see the grey symbol turns into
a black symbol.

The close button is red with a black X and doesn't look blurred. Now
hover your cursor over this button and you'll see the black X turns into
a grey X and thus becomes blurred. This is the opposite behavior as the
other two buttons.

It's easy to see this bug when you hover your mouse over the button in
the middle. If the cursor is over the button in the middle, you can see
the left button is blurred, while the other two are unblurred. Now move
your mouse a liitle bit to the right and and you'll see all three
buttons are unblurred. This looks really strange.

On inactive windows the all three buttons have the same effect. The
ambiance thema also looks good.

** Affects: light-themes (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New

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[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2010-04-01 Thread Tralalalala
Rafal-maj-it  wrote 8 hours ago:
"Thanks guys - finally the bug is fixed and backported everywhere :)

April Fools' day! Sorry guys"

Not a realistic joke at all, because this bug won't be fixed before the
year 2020 and probably won't be fixed at all.

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[Bug 39328] Re: Disable scrolling on window list to flip through windows

2010-04-01 Thread Tralalalala
True. After all those years this bug still isn't fixed. Ubuntu 10.04 is
an LTS release and this bug really needs to be finally fixed.

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[Bug 445123] Re: No GUI option to disable face browser

2010-03-30 Thread Tralalalala
Rick Spencer  wrote 21 hours ago:
"This "fix" was uploaded inadvertently, and is buggy. We will revert it at the 
next opportunity. We will discuss GDM configuration in detail at UDS. Thank you 
all for your feedback and comments here."

The only bug is that the checkbox is unchecked by default, while it
should be checked by default. Looks to me like that's very easy to fix.
I couldn't find any other bugs. This little bug just needs to be fixed,
so this option can be included in the final release of Ubuntu 10.04.

If Ubuntu 10.04 doesn't have the feature to disable the face browser,
I'm not going to upgrade. Showing a list of available logon names is way
too insecure.

Robert Ancell  wrote 17 hours ago:
"Note that ubuntu-tweak (http://ubuntu-tweak.com/) provides this functionality."

In my opinion that's not an option for corporate users. An operating
system just has to have this functionality by default. There shouldn't
be any need to use any third party applications, only to disable some
insecure feature.

Robbie Williamson  wrote 5 hours ago:
"I ask you to please be sure to follow the criteria defined at 
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance when setting bug importance."

Importance of bugs on Launchpad is a fail. After all those years this bug is 
still at the wishlist:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/11334
That bug really doesn't belong on the wishlist. That's a bug which had to be 
addressed years ago.

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[Bug 445123] Re: No GUI option to disable face browser

2010-03-27 Thread Tralalalala
Jerone Young  wrote on 2010-03-26:
"@Rick
This bug can not wait for 10.10 & needs to be fixed in 10.04 for many corporate 
users. It looks like the fix came in extremely quickly. So why now put this in 
the bug."

I completely agree.

First of all it was a really bad choice to put the new GDM in Ubuntu
9.10 when there wasn't even a single GUI to configure it. Ubuntu 9.04
and earlier had a great GUI to change everthing and I always completely
customized my GDM. Then they put the new GDM in Ubuntu 9.10 and there
was nothing to configure. At the time Ubuntu 9.10 was released the only
option was to let a user automatically logon. By default Ubuntu 9.10
shows an insecure list of user names and there isn't even a GUI to
disable it.

Now Ubuntu 10.04 (which is an LTS) is almost finished and they still
want to release it with a GDM that can't be configured. That's really an
epic fail. The new GDM has been put into Ubuntu way to early. They had
to wait untill a GUI was released which was of the same quality as the
GUI for the old GDM.

I'm still running Ubuntu 9.04 on all of my systems. The new GDM is the
reason I've never upgraded to Ubuntu 9.10. I don't want my systems to
display my logon name.

Waiting till the release of Ubuntu 10.10? Only for a simple checkbox to
disable the face browser? Really, that's completely ridiculous! Visual
freeze? So what? This is just a simple checkbox which is really easy to
test. Does it work? Great. Than just put it in Ubuntu! Why should we
wait for 7 months only to have one little checkbox?

The great difference between feature releases and fix releases is
ridiculous anyway. Canonical thinks everything is a new feature. For
example: With the release of Ubuntu 9.04 they thought showing the number
of updates was not user friendly. How can they ever think showing the
number of updates is less user friendly than NOT showing the number of
updates??? Anyway, they decided to remove the number of available
updates from the update manager in Ubuntu 9.04. Of course people where
complaining. They wanted to see the number of updates. This was really
easy to patch, but for Canonical this was a NEW feature, so the users
had to wait for Ubuntu 9.10 while Ubunti 9.04 was just released. WTF???
Why should we wait for 6 months and then upgrade a whole operating
system just to get an old feature back??? That's ridiculous! It's just a
simple text string showing the number of updates. It's so easy to test
if it works or doesn't work. Does it work? Than just push the update to
your users. Why do they have to wait for 6 months till a new release of
Ubuntu is released?

Canonical makes me sick with their "No, this is a new feature, so you'll
have to wait for Ubuntu version [current + 1]."

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[Bug 39328] Re: Disable scrolling on window list to flip through windows

2010-03-19 Thread Tralalalala
This still is an issue in the latest build of Ubuntu 10.04.

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[Bug 320259] Re: GDM Context menu needs an option to display on button release

2010-03-19 Thread Tralalalala
This bug is really annoying. It's been bothering me for years now.
Please give me the option to show the context menu when I release the
button, instead of when pressing the button.

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[Bug 532633] Re: [light-theme] please revert the order of the window controls back to "menu:minimize, maximize, close"

2010-03-16 Thread Tralalalala
Emmanuel Touzery  wrote 7 hours ago:
"1. i'm left handed and driving the mouse with the right hand, i think lots of 
left-handed people do that

2. this will make wine applications look even more out of place, also
chrome has the problem. for wine i think it's more or less unfixable.
but i understand that wine is not really a high priority for canonical."

1. Completely offtopic: I'm right handed, but half of the time I'm
driving the mouse with the left hand. I can use a mouse with my right
hand and with my left hand, so to prevent me from getting RSI, I drive
the mouse with my right hand for a few hours and then drive the mouse
with my left hand.

2. Google Chrome is no problem. You can configure Google Chrome to use the 
title bar of the window manager, instead of it's own title bar. It's in the 
preferences, under the tab called Personal (or something like that).
WINE shouldn't be of any priority. Yes, I'm completely against the use of WINE, 
but that's completely offtopic.

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[Bug 532633] Re: [light-theme] please revert the order of the window controls back to "menu:minimize, maximize, close"

2010-03-16 Thread Tralalalala
This "bug" desn't affect me at all. Actually, this "bug" makes me very
happy.

I use Mac OS X a lot, so I'm used to having these buttons on the left
side. I also use Ubuntu and I always change the layout so the buttons
are on the left side in my Ubuntu-installs. I only use Mac OS X and
Ubuntu (with Ubuntu having these buttons on the left), but I don't use
Windows at all, so I'm completely used to having these buttons on the
left.

Why are there so many people who don't want to have these buttons on the
left? Just use it for a few weeks and you're completely used to having
the buttons on the left.

Why should these buttons have to be on the right? Why should Ubuntu be
like Windows? Why should it be wrong to place the buttons on the left
side like on Mac OS X. I'm really happy the appearance of Ubuntu is more
and more changing to the appearance of Mac OS X, instead of the
appearance of Windows.

Moving the buttons from the right side to the left side was a great
decission and I really hope it won't be changed back, because of the
negative comments. Those who are complaining just have to try it a few
weeks and they'll be completely used to having the controls on the left
side. Please Canonical, just release Ubuntu 10.04 and the future
releases with the buttons on the left.

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[Bug 194472] Re: Entering password in Terminal gives no visual feedback

2010-02-23 Thread Tralalalala
Josh Leverette  wrote on 2010-02-22:
"Let it be known that this day, February 21, is the day that sudo moved out of 
the Age of the Wizards and into the Age of Humans"

Why should sudo be moved to the Age of Humans? It really doesn't belong
there. As Matthew Paul Thomas mentioned it isn't time to change sudo,
but to change those users who keep on posting difficult commands which a
user doesn't undestand. Stop those forum members from saying: "Just
enter 'sudo apt-get install app-name' in the Terminal." A user doesn't
know what this command does. Just tell him where to click to install
this application. Tell the forum administrators to edit or remove these
kind of Terminal posts and replace them with proper GUI posts. Send a
warning to people who keep on posting Terminal commands. That's what
needs to happen.

A user doesn't type a sudo command of oneself. They type those commands,
because they were told to do so by members on the forum. Those people
need to change. Just let them explain how to do some task using the GUI
and only tell a user to use a Terminal command if the user asks for a
command.

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[Bug 21202] Re: Clipboard is erased after closing program. affects multiple programs.

2010-02-23 Thread Tralalalala
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 11334 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334

Kip Warner  wrote on 2010-02-21:
"Better to keep one's mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open it and 
resolve all doubt."

Then why are you still talking?

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[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2010-02-23 Thread Tralalalala
Sandro Mani  wrote on 2010-02-21:
"The person(s) who originally implemented the clipboard may very well not be 
working on Xorg anymore, hence someone would have to read through the whole 
unfamiliar code and understand it, just like we"

Then there's something fundamentally wrong at Xorg. It doesn't matter
who wrote the code. If Xorg releases some software, they're responsible
for maintaining the code and they're the ones who need to ensure
everything is properly documented, so it's possible to make some changes
to the existing code.

Sandro Mani  wrote on 2010-02-21:
"the chances of success are considerably higher if the 52 people here would 
spend time researching instead of writing long, heated comments."

Researching? That's work for developers, not for users. I've said it so many 
times, but how can Linux ever get a market share of more than 1% if they expect 
the users do everything themselves?
Step 1: User encounters a bug;
Step 2: User tells developers he found a bug and gives some information like 
when does he encounter this bug and what did he expect to happen;
Step 3: Developer researches how to fix this bug;
Step 4: Developer fixes bug;
Step 5: Developer releases an update.

Unfortuantely this doesn't work with open source software, because the
developer says: "I don't give a fuck about that bugs. Fix it yourself."

Users don't want to do research, they don't want to create Wiki-pages,
they don't want to learn how to program. They just want to tell the
developer about the bug he encountered and that's all. They encounter
this bug, because of the errors of the developer, so he's the one who
needs to fix the bugs he created himself.

Why does the term "open source developer" mean "someone who who does
what he wants to do, but doesn't listen to the comments of the users"?
If you only implement features you like yourself and only fix bugs you
care about, then don't release your software to the public, but keep it
just for your own use. If you also want other people to use your
software, then listen to them and implement the features they want and
fix the bugs they want to be fixed. If you don't want to do this, then
just dont release your software to the public, because users expect
software to work. They just want to use the software, they don't want to
help develop the software.

LimCore  wrote 4 hours ago:
"Just install Percellite by default (MIR) and we are done! No need for too much 
talking, lets do it ;)"

It has been said so many times: this is not a solution. These kind of
applications are a bandaid solution to get some half baked clipboard
implementation which crashes sometimes and doesn't even support all
kinds of file types. Besides that, installing such application by
default will cause the developers to think: "They've got their clipboard
implementation, so there's no need to deliver a real fix." We need the
clipboard to be implemented where it needs to be implemented.

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[Bug 21202] Re: Clipboard is erased after closing program. affects multiple programs.

2010-02-20 Thread Tralalalala
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 11334 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11334

@Kip Warner:

Like I care about the software being free or non-free. I want software
which WORKS! I'm a USER, not a DEVELOPER. Don't you really understand
between a USER and a DEVELOPER? I'm a user and I don't care about the
source code. I want my software to work and I'm never going to view the
source code and I'm not going to fix bugs myself. I want to USE the
operating system and it's software, not DEVELOPING it. I also don't care
if I've got to pay. If I've got to pay and it works. Why not? The
developers did some good works to develop something which works, so I'll
reward them by paying for their software.

That's everything I'm going to say. The same discussion is going on in 11334, 
so there you'll find more details about how I think about this epic failure. 
Please, read the comments of me and pyrates (he has some really good posts in 
11334) at:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/11334?comments=all

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[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2010-02-20 Thread Tralalalala
Saïvann Carignan  wrote 19 hours ago:
"Developers regularly read bugs. When they can fix the bug, they assign the bug 
to themself and generally, it doesn't take a week before we get a update."

That's the best joke I've ever heard. None of the bugs I've commented on
has ever been fixed. Bugs which are several years old still got the
status "New". This Bug reporting system is just a fail. You're only
talking to other users who experience the samen bugs, but you never see
a developer.

Saïvann Carignan  wrote 19 hours ago:
"Users in this bug report complains that this bug exist since years and years 
and years, but if you look at freedesktop bug in xserver-xorg attached to this 
ubuntu bug report, it was reported 2009-11-21. Unless another older bug exist, 
apparently nobody complained at the right place since the beginning."

They know about the crappy clipboard for years:
http://www.x.org/wiki/XDC2007Notes#BartMassey.3ACutandPaste
That's from the X Developer's Conference of 2007.

Besides that:
How can you expect the average user to know which developer develops each part 
of Ubuntu and where to find the particularly bug tracking system of that 
developer and to create an account at all of those bug tracking systems?

For example:
Someone encounters the bug of this bug report, he encounters a bug in 
Rhythmbox, he encounters a bug in OpenOffice.org and he encounters a bug in The 
GIMP. This means the user has to know the developers of X are the one to blame 
for the non-functional clipboard and he has to search for the bug tracking 
system of X. Then he has to create an account, he has to search if the bug is 
already reported and if the bug isn't already reported he has to report the bug 
for himself and has to answer difficult questions, like "Product". Look at the 
bug report at this location:
http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25220

Look at the drop down menu behind "Product". It goes from
"accountsservice" to "Xtests", there are so many products in this list,
I'm not even going to count all of them and all of those products've got
weird names, like "xesam", "scim", "roadster", "libasyncns" or "exempi".
How in the name of [actually I really don't care in the name of who]
will the average user ever be able to find the product which belongs to
the behavior of the clipboard? That's just impossible. Only a very small
amount of users will be able to report such kind of bugs.

The user's also got a problem with Rhythmbox, so there we go again: He
has to know who's the developer of this application, search for the bug
tracking system of this developer, create an account, serach if the bug
already exists and report the bug. Then he also has to do this for the
bug in OperOffice.org and the bug in The GIMP. You can't expect this
from the average user. It's way too much hassle, it costs way too much
time and it's way too difficult for the average user. It's way too
technical. The average user doesn't understand this.

The average user installs Ubuntu and for the user Ubuntu is the
operating system, so if he encounters any bugs, Ubuntus Launchpad is the
place to report these bugs. The user doesn't know (and really doesn't
want to know) who developed which part of Ubuntu. The user doesn't see
Ubuntu as a distribution consisting of different application, which are
all developerd by someone else. They just see one operating system, just
like Windows is developed by Microsoft and Mac OS X is developed by
Apple.

Now imagine Windows and Mac OS X worked in the same way as Ubuntu:
A user of Windows encounters a bug in Windows Media Player, a bug in Internet 
Explorer, a bug in Windows Movie Maker and a bug in Microsofts Defragmentation 
Tool. All of those applications are developed by another team. Now imagine all 
of those teams got their own websites, their own bug tracking system and there 
was no communication between those teams. That's the Ubuntu situation.

The user first has to find out who developed Windows Media Player. Then
he has to search for the bug tracking system of those developers. He
creates an account and searches if the bug's already been reported. He
reports the bug and he has to answer a lot of difficult questions.

When he's done reporting the bug, he has to find out who developed
Internet Explorer and he has to find their bug tracking system. This is
a completely different team, so they've got their own bug tracking
system, so the user can't use the account he created to report the bug
in Windows Media Player. So, he creates a news account, searches if the
bug's already been reported and creates a new bug report.

Then he has to do the same for the bugs he found in Windows Movie Maker
and Microsofts Defragmentation Tool. This doesn't work! Microsoft's the
developer of Windows, so that's the place to report bugs and there are
people active assigning bugs to the appropriate team.

What does Ubuntu do? Absolutely nothing! These bug reports are several
years old, but there's still absolute

[Bug 11334] Re: MASTER Copy-Paste doesn't work if the source is closed before the paste

2010-02-19 Thread Tralalalala
LimCore  wrote on 2010-02-09:
"This is crazy, this bug has 45 people that take time to go to LP and click 
affects-me-too,
it has a dozen of duplicates,
it is one of most reported bug I seen, and yet it is just Wishlist priority?!

Ubuntu fails to provide most basic functionality expected from a desktop
since windows 3.11...

For 5 years now! Wow."

Yes, it really is an epic fail. :D Those developers really don't get it.

Endolith  wrote on 2010-02-09:
"Isn't it trivially fixable by installing one of the workarounds by default?"

No, it isn't. How many times do I have to say it isn't? Those
applications are NOT a fix. They're a workaround which somtimes works.
Those applications also cause a lot of problems. I've tested all of them
and there's none which really works. It just needs to be fixed in X, so
there's a system wide clipboard which works for EVERY APPLICATION in
EVERY DESKTOP ENVIRONMENT in EVERY DISTRIBUTION and for EVERY KIND OF
CONTENT (like text, images, sound, a part of a video). Not like this
will ever happen, because developers are as cocky and stubborn as can
be, so don't a working clipboard in Linux in the upcoming 15 years.

You want an operating system which has a clipboard (one of the most
basic features of an operating system)? Then just don't use Linux,
because Linux doesn't have a working clipboard. We all know a working
clipboard is something every operating system has to support. Every
serious operating system in the world has one since it's first release,
because a clipboard is so important. Everyone knows it's completely
ridiculous to release an operating system without a working clipboard. I
think developers of Linux don't cosider Linux a serious operating
system, because after all those years it still doesn't work in Linux.

Look at this screenshot:
http://www.computerhovel.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/s10.jpg
That's Mac OS as it was released in 1984. Let me repeat that: NINETEEN EIGHTY 
FOUR!!! What do you see? Do you see the "Clipboard File"? Now it's 2010. Yes, 
it's TWO THOUSAND AND TEN!!! That's TWENTY SIX years later and Linux still 
doesn't have a clipboard which works.

Really, what an epic fail! Developers, what's your goal? You want Linux
to be only used in CLI mode on servers or do you want Linux to also be
used on desktops? If you want Linux to be not only used in CLI mode,
then create something usefull, instead of this kind of amateuristic
piece of... [insert some word or words you like to use when swearing].

Bartolomeo Nicolotti  wrote on 2010-02-10:
"Could someone tell us when this bug will be fixed?"

What do you think of the answer: "Never" of "Certainly not before 2025"?
In all those years Linux've never had a working clipboard, so don't
think there'll a working clipboard in the near future.

Jackflap  wrote on 2010-02-10:
"Well it's simple, in the same way that the cost of you learning how to 
program, studying the spec and implementing a fix isn't worth your time (or 
money), then for exactly the same reason no other dev has done it either.

Until someone has the necessary experience, time, or motivation to fix
this, it will just sit waiting. The occasional reminder on the bug
report is fine, but please, the best thing you can do is start learning
to code and maybe a few years down the line you'll be able to write the
patch yourself if it's so important to you."

There we go again. Why do users of Linux always have to do everything on
their own. We are users, no developers. If they develop something, then
do the job right and if you didn't do the job right, then fix it! Don't
develop something and then tell your users you don't have the motivation
to fix it and tell them: "Just fix it yourself."

That's the main reason why Linux sucks. No commercial developer would
ever come away with such kind of attitude. I've stopped using Linux,
only because of this. There are so many bugs which still aren't fixed,
even though they exist for years. What's the progress of these bugs?
Zero! Really, in all those years there hasn't been any progress at all
and the only replies you get are: "Fix it yourself!" What did I do? I
sold my PC's and laptop and bought iMacs and a MacBook. Now everything
just works. Apple is a commercial company. They can't afford such kind
of attitude, because they'll loose customers. Why do you think Linux
never gets more than 1% market share? Because Linux on the desktop is an
epic fail and if the developers don't change their attitude and start
fixing those old bugs, Linux will always be an epic fail on the desktop!

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