[Bug 244810] Re: inconsistency with the --no-degraded option

2009-11-25 Thread ceg
Example: 3 member mirroring array

A)
One disk fails during uptime, raid keeps running with 2 disks and on a reboot 
the array will get started through the --no-degraded or --incremental command 
with 2 disks.

B)
One disk fails during downtime, the array won't be started with --no-degraded 
or --incremental. A specific --run is necessary to start it degraded.

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[Bug 252345] Re: mdadm.conf with explicit ARRAY statements, and HOMEHOST !=any prevents hotplug autodetection

2009-11-25 Thread ceg
Two external drives containig a raid1 (storage for digicam) do not get
detected and mounted when connected to another machine.

** Summary changed:

- mdadm.conf is crated with explicit ARRAY statements prevents hotplug 
autodetection
+ mdadm.conf with explicit ARRAY statements, and HOMEHOST !=any prevents 
hotplug autodetection

** Changed in: debian-installer (Ubuntu)
   Status: Incomplete = Confirmed

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[Bug 379233] Re: cp preserves mode with --no-preserve=mode

2009-11-25 Thread ceg
yeah, right a umask setting the exec bit ;-)


** Changed in: coreutils (Ubuntu)
   Status: Incomplete = Confirmed

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[Bug 157981] Re: udev not using mdadm incremental

2009-11-25 Thread ceg
Hi,
In 9.10 someone changed the mdadm udev rules to use --incremental without 
considering all the consequences that were already reported. 
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReliableRaid

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[Bug 488317] Re: installed system fails to boot with degraded raid holding cryptdisk

2009-11-25 Thread ceg
Current state of ubuntu systems with md raid:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReliableRaid

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[Bug 251663] Re: --incremental not creating device nodes

2009-11-25 Thread ceg
Current state of ubuntu systems with md raid:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReliableRaid

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[Bug 247153] Re: encrypted root initialisation races/fails on hotplug devices (does not wait)

2009-11-25 Thread ceg
Current state of ubuntu systems with md raid:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReliableRaid

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[Bug 252345] Re: mdadm.conf with explicit ARRAY statements, and HOMEHOST !=any prevents hotplug autodetection

2009-11-25 Thread ceg
Current state of ubuntu systems with md raid:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReliableRaid

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[Bug 251646] Re: option to start selected arrays in auto-read mode (like --incremental)

2009-11-25 Thread ceg
Current state of ubuntu systems with md raid:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReliableRaid

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[Bug 251164] Re: boot impossible due to missing initramfs failure hook integration

2009-11-25 Thread ceg
Current state of ubuntu systems with md raid:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReliableRaid

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[Bug 244810] Re: inconsistency with the --no-degraded option

2009-11-25 Thread ceg
Current state of ubuntu systems with md raid:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReliableRaid

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[Bug 244808] Re: --incremental --scan --run does not start anything

2009-11-25 Thread ceg
Current state of ubuntu systems with md raid:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReliableRaid

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[Bug 136252] Re: [gutsy] mdadm, initramfs missing ARRAY lines

2009-11-25 Thread ceg
Current state of ubuntu systems with md raid:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReliableRaid

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[Bug 488158] Re: users-admin not following Debian policy

2009-11-25 Thread ceg
Uh, oh, I got that feeling you know ;-)

Seriously, exactly as you write I was seeing the user being added to his
primary private group.

adduser tester produces this group entry: tester:x:1006:
where users-admin produced: test:x:1005:test

I had experienced much trouble before because of another tool not using
adduser (with its hooks). (probably why I got suspicious so quickly)

Thank you for your response and feedback.

(Strange you're right, maybe adduser once belonged to base-passwd and
the doc didn't get updated?)

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[Bug 487729] [NEW] /etc/login.defs propagates incorrect information

2009-11-24 Thread ceg
Public bug reported:


The part about the UMASK setting is not correct and misleading.

As a contribution here is the corresponding section containing corrected
information (for inclusion in the next update).

--8- cut here --
#
# Login configuration initializations:
#
# ERASECHAR Terminal ERASE character ('\010' = backspace).
# KILLCHAR Terminal KILL character ('\025' = CTRL/U).
# UMASK Default umask value.
#
# The ERASECHAR and KILLCHAR are used only on System V machines.
# Prefix these values with 0 to get octal, 0x to get hexadecimal.
#
ERASECHAR 0177
KILLCHAR 025
#
# On PAM-enabled systems the UMASK setting in this file is used as a global
# default by pam_umask. (See man pam_umask for global and per user
# overrides.) Setting the umask in shell rc files (i.e. /etc/profile and
# others) is now discouraged in favour of the pam_umask mechanism.
#
# On non-PAM systems setting the umask in shell rc files, in addition
# to the UMASK setting here, can catches some more classes of user
# entries to system. (Logins through su, cron, ssh etc.)
# At the same time, using shell rc to set umask won't catch entries which use
# non-shell executables in place of login shell, like /usr/sbin/pppd for ppp
# user and alike.
# For discussion, see #314539 and #248150 as well as the thread starting at
# http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/06/msg01598.html
#
#
# UMASK 022 is the historical value in Debian,
# 027 or even 077 could be considered better for privacy if the users
# in their groups can not trust each other. There is no
# One True Answer here: Each sysadmin must make up his/her mind.
#
# Note that with login's USERGROUPS_ENAB feature, or the usergroups
# feature of pam_umask, if a user has a user private group
# the user's group permission umask byte is adjusted to match
# the user permission byte.
# This enables flawless collaboration of users in group directories
UMASK 022

--8---

** Affects: shadow (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New

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[Bug 252351] Re: provide some info about users and file permissions

2009-11-24 Thread ceg
The informational text suggested is and can be updated on
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultiUserManagement

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[Bug 66328] Re: gksu breaks X apps when /etc/sudoers has NOPASSWORD:

2009-11-22 Thread ceg
Try checking if the  /tmp/libgksu-*/.Xauthority file is created with the
right ownership of the target user?

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[Bug 275304] Re: wrong ownership of .Xauthority and /tmp/libgksu-xxx

2009-11-22 Thread ceg
This may help tracking down this bug:

The ownership is set correctly when using the the su method (by
calling the gksu binary directly instead of of through the gksudo
symlink AND with the -w option).

This fails:

$ gksudo -u firefoxuser firefox
No protocol specifiedNo protocol specified
Error: cannot open display: :0.0

The following works inspite of the warnings, however the password of the
target user is allways required and you can not make use of the
NOPASSWORD option in the sudoers file with that.

$ gksu -w -u firefoxuser firefox

(firefox:3439): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
None of the authentication protocols specified are supported.

(firefox:3439): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
None of the authentication protocols specified are supported.

(firefox:3439): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
None of the authentication protocols specified are supported.

---

It's quite a security shame that ubuntu ships without fully working
running as different user mechanisms for so long.

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[Bug 112414] Re: Error: Could not find service 'kfmclient' using Gnome

2009-11-22 Thread ceg
Does creating the symlink mentioned in Bug #281679 help you?

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[Bug 379233] Re: cp preserves mode with --no-preserve=mode

2009-11-14 Thread ceg
Hi there, it's now a vfat fs plugged into a 9.10 system:
ii  coreutils  7.4-2ubuntu1   The GNU core utilities

$ ls -l /media/USB/
-rwxr-xr-x 1  test.txt1
-rwxr-xr-x 1  test.txt2

$ cp /media/USB/test.txt1 .
$ ls -l
-rwxr-xr-x 1  test.txt1


$ cp --no-preserve=mode  /media/USB/test.file2 .
$ ls -l
-rwxr-xr-x 1  test.txt1
-rwxr-xr-x 1  test.txt2

With --no-preserve I'd expect the new file to have the same permissions
as a newly created file (umask dependent) but this is not the case.

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[Bug 379406] Re: kuser ignores /etc/skel

2009-09-15 Thread ceg
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 379397 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/379397

Ah, thank you for clearing this.

I must have missed the copy skeleton option when I first noticed that
users created with kuser where set up so differently from other methods
(independenly from the debian mechanisms). With the default to copy
skeleton the difference might get less visible, though hooks, default
group settings etc. would still be different.

So I guess I can close this bug now, as duplicate of Bug #379397 /
#379399, since using the debian usertools) will deal with it.

** This bug has been marked a duplicate of bug 379397
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[Bug 379397] Re: kuser is violating debian policy

2009-09-15 Thread ceg
Reasoning: Not using the debian mechanims results in not executing
useradd hooks, different filepermissions, possibly not copying /etc/skel
etc. (duplicates of this bug.)

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[Bug 388917] [NEW] gpsd depends on blacklisted garmin_gsm module

2009-06-18 Thread ceg
Public bug reported:

Binary package hint: gpsd

Other apps seem to avoid the garmin_gsm kernel module for usb devices
and access those devices using the hotplug USB subsystem, instead of the
device created by garmin_gsm.

** Affects: gpsd (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New

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[Bug 367197] Re: gpsd depends on nonexistent /lib/udev/hotplug.functions

2009-06-18 Thread ceg

Why is the hotplug mechanism disabled by default in ubuntu?
As everything is hotplug enabled it seem gps devices are expected to be 
hotplugable too.

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[Bug 388917] Re: gpsd depends on blacklisted garmin_gps module

2009-06-18 Thread ceg
I am sorry I don't understand what you are talking about.

On my ubuntu 9.04 system there is certenly no garmin_gsm module loaded
when connecting the device.

Plus I need to manually mount an usbfs and put add some udev line.

I don't know how is anyone suppost to know about this marble when you
make the bugreport for gsmd disappear from launchpad? This took me just
too long.

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[Bug 388917] Re: gpsd depends on blacklisted garmin_gps module

2009-06-18 Thread ceg
can't it be tagged 9.04?

** Changed in: gpsd (Ubuntu)
   Status: Invalid = New

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[Bug 388917] Re: gpsd depends on blacklisted garmin_gps module

2009-06-18 Thread ceg

Full workaround to use garmin USB device in 9.04:

in /etc/modprobe/blacklist.conf: 
#blacklist garmin_gps


The udev rule to add:
#cat /etc/udev/rules.d/51-garmin.rules 
SYSFS{idVendor}==091e, SYSFS{idProduct}==0003, MODE=666 

The Filesystem to mount:
/etc/fstab:
none /proc/bus/usb  usbfs 0 0

#sudo modprobe garmin_gps

#gpsd /dev/gps

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[Bug 388917] Re: gpsd depends on blacklisted garmin_gps module

2009-06-18 Thread ceg
You might want to set it to fix commited, if this is the case?

But then if garmin_gps is loaded by udev rules, wont't it again break
other packages that use usb: to fetch trackdata from the device?

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[Bug 388917] Re: gpsd depends on blacklisted garmin_gps module

2009-06-18 Thread ceg
For the workaround, it is better to leave garmin_gps blacklisted
(stadard) so that it wont be loaded during boot, and just sudo modprobe
garmin_gps and gpsd /dev/gps when you need gpsd. (For gpsdrive,
tangoGPS etc.).

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[Bug 388917] Re: gpsd depends on blacklisted garmin_gps module

2009-06-18 Thread ceg
Blacklisting garmin_gps is not a bug. It allows apps to use libusb
instead.

Bug #236682 garmin_gps.ko assumes you're using usbfs exists.

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[Bug 388995] [NEW] gpsd checks on obsolete /proc/bus/usb/devices

2009-06-18 Thread ceg
Public bug reported:

Binary package hint: gpsd

When a USB device, that is created by the garmin_gps module is specified,
the may not be needed/or should rather look in /dev/bus/usb for garmin_gps 
devices.

An older report is: garmin.c: /proc/bus/usb is deprecated
http://developer.berlios.de/bugs/?func=detailbugbug_id=13467group_id=2116

The issue is however unrelated to using libusb or another usb to tty
layer, it prevents gsmd from working with garmin_gps on modern distros.

** Affects: gpsd (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New

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[Bug 388995] Re: gpsd checks on obsolete /proc/bus/usb/devices

2009-06-18 Thread ceg
The mentioned report on berlios is wrongly set to won't fix, possible
due to misunderstanding it to request a switch to libusb.

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[Bug 388917] Re: gpsd depends on blacklisted garmin_gps module

2009-06-18 Thread ceg
Here is the output:

#ls -ld /sys/module/garmin_gps/drivers/*
/sys/module/garmin_gps/drivers/*/* /sys/module/garmin_gps/drivers/*/*/*

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root0 2009-06-18 16:18 
/sys/module/garmin_gps/drivers/usb:garmin_gps - 
../../../bus/usb/drivers/garmin_gps
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root0 2009-06-18 16:18 
/sys/module/garmin_gps/drivers/usb:garmin_gps/2-1:1.0 - 
../../../../devices/pci:00/:00:13.0/usb2/2-1/2-1:1.0
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 4096 2009-06-18 16:19 
/sys/module/garmin_gps/drivers/usb:garmin_gps/2-1:1.0/bAlternateSetting
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 4096 2009-06-18 13:44 
/sys/module/garmin_gps/drivers/usb:garmin_gps/2-1:1.0/bInterfaceClass
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 4096 2009-06-18 13:44 
/sys/module/garmin_gps/drivers/usb:garmin_gps/2-1:1.0/bInterfaceNumber
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 4096 2009-06-18 13:45 
/sys/module/garmin_gps/drivers/usb:garmin_gps/2-1:1.0/bInterfaceProtocol
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 4096 2009-06-18 13:45 
/sys/module/garmin_gps/drivers/usb:garmin_gps/2-1:1.0/bInterfaceSubClass
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 4096 2009-06-18 16:19 
/sys/module/garmin_gps/drivers/usb:garmin_gps/2-1:1.0/bNumEndpoints
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root0 2009-06-18 13:44 
/sys/module/garmin_gps/drivers/usb:garmin_gps/2-1:1.0/driver - 
../../../../../../bus/usb/drivers/garmin_gps
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root0 2009-06-18 16:19 
/sys/module/garmin_gps/drivers/usb:garmin_gps/2-1:1.0/ep_02 - 
usb_endpoint/usbdev2.2_ep02
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root0 2009-06-18 16:19 
/sys/module/garmin_gps/drivers/usb:garmin_gps/2-1:1.0/ep_81 - 
usb_endpoint/usbdev2.2_ep81
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root0 2009-06-18 16:19 
/sys/module/garmin_gps/drivers/usb:garmin_gps/2-1:1.0/ep_83 - 
usb_endpoint/usbdev2.2_ep83
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 4096 2009-06-18 16:19 
/sys/module/garmin_gps/drivers/usb:garmin_gps/2-1:1.0/modalias
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root0 2009-06-18 16:19 
/sys/module/garmin_gps/drivers/usb:garmin_gps/2-1:1.0/power
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root0 2009-06-18 15:44 
/sys/module/garmin_gps/drivers/usb:garmin_gps/2-1:1.0/subsystem - 
../../../../../../bus/usb
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 4096 2009-06-18 16:19 
/sys/module/garmin_gps/drivers/usb:garmin_gps/2-1:1.0/supports_autosuspend
drwxr-xr-x 4 root root0 2009-06-18 13:44 
/sys/module/garmin_gps/drivers/usb:garmin_gps/2-1:1.0/ttyUSB0
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4096 2009-06-18 15:44 
/sys/module/garmin_gps/drivers/usb:garmin_gps/2-1:1.0/uevent
drwxr-xr-x 5 root root0 2009-06-18 15:44 
/sys/module/garmin_gps/drivers/usb:garmin_gps/2-1:1.0/usb_endpoint
--w--- 1 root root 4096 2009-06-18 16:18 
/sys/module/garmin_gps/drivers/usb:garmin_gps/bind
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root0 2009-06-18 16:18 
/sys/module/garmin_gps/drivers/usb:garmin_gps/module - 
../../../../module/garmin_gps
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root0 2009-06-18 16:18 
/sys/module/garmin_gps/drivers/usb:garmin_gps/module/drivers
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root0 2009-06-18 16:19 
/sys/module/garmin_gps/drivers/usb:garmin_gps/module/holders
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 4096 2009-06-18 16:19 
/sys/module/garmin_gps/drivers/usb:garmin_gps/module/initstate
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root0 2009-06-18 16:19 
/sys/module/garmin_gps/drivers/usb:garmin_gps/module/notes
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root0 2009-06-18 16:19 
/sys/module/garmin_gps/drivers/usb:garmin_gps/module/parameters
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 4096 2009-06-18 16:19 
/sys/module/garmin_gps/drivers/usb:garmin_gps/module/refcnt
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root0 2009-06-18 16:19 
/sys/module/garmin_gps/drivers/usb:garmin_gps/module/sections
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 4096 2009-06-18 16:19 
/sys/module/garmin_gps/drivers/usb:garmin_gps/module/srcversion
--w--- 1 root root 4096 2009-06-18 16:18 
/sys/module/garmin_gps/drivers/usb:garmin_gps/uevent
--w--- 1 root root 4096 2009-06-18 16:18 
/sys/module/garmin_gps/drivers/usb:garmin_gps/unbind
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root0 2009-06-18 16:18 
/sys/module/garmin_gps/drivers/usb-serial:garmin_gps - 
../../../bus/usb-serial/drivers/garmin_gps
--w--- 1 root root 4096 2009-06-18 16:18 
/sys/module/garmin_gps/drivers/usb-serial:garmin_gps/bind
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root0 2009-06-18 16:18 
/sys/module/garmin_gps/drivers/usb-serial:garmin_gps/module - 
../../../../module/garmin_gps
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root0 2009-06-18 16:18 
/sys/module/garmin_gps/drivers/usb-serial:garmin_gps/module/drivers
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root0 2009-06-18 16:19 
/sys/module/garmin_gps/drivers/usb-serial:garmin_gps/module/holders
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 4096 2009-06-18 16:19 
/sys/module/garmin_gps/drivers/usb-serial:garmin_gps/module/initstate
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root0 2009-06-18 16:19 
/sys/module/garmin_gps/drivers/usb-serial:garmin_gps/module/notes
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root0 2009-06-18 16:19 
/sys/module/garmin_gps/drivers/usb-serial:garmin_gps/module/parameters
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 4096 2009-06-18 16:19 
/sys/module/garmin_gps/drivers/usb-serial:garmin_gps/module/refcnt
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root0 2009-06-18 16:19 
/sys/module/garmin_gps/drivers/usb-serial:garmin_gps/module/sections
-r--r--r-- 1 root 

[Bug 388917] Re: gpsd depends on blacklisted garmin_gps module

2009-06-18 Thread ceg
 Best thing is probably to switch the gpsr to NMEA and just use that...

Even if my device supported it, I would think it would not help with
setting up the USB conectivity.

With

1) the udev rule to apply correct permissions to usb device (that shoud come 
installed with some default init package) 
2) The usbfs mounted to /proc/bus/usb and 
3) the garmin_gps module loaded

aquisition of the current position works.

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[Bug 388995] Re: gpsd checks on obsolete /proc/bus/usb/devices

2009-06-18 Thread ceg
Ah, here is a thread to refer to
http://www.nabble.com/gpsd---garmin-driver-broken-due-to-use-of--proc-bus-usb-td16342438.html

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[Bug 388917] Re: gpsd depends on blacklisted garmin_gps module

2009-06-18 Thread ceg
Best thing is probably to switch the gpsr to NMEA and just use that... 
Even if my device supported it, I would think it would not help with setting 
up the USB conectivity.

Got it, garmin usb binary format is diffrent from garmin serial binary. 
Cornfiming: large piece of crap and forerunners do not provide NMEA output.

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[Bug 389020] [NEW] ubuntu is removing the documentation

2009-06-18 Thread ceg
Public bug reported:

Binary package hint: gpsd

/usr/share/doc/gpsd/README.Debian.gz is missing in unbuntu.

No documentation is provided that and how /etc/default/gpsd has to be
configured (with dpkg-reconfigure).

Taken from Bug #367197:
Note that in order for gpsd.hotplug.wrapper to work at all, one needs to 
'dpkg-reconfigure gpsd', and have it start the daemon at boot, specify no 
device to use, let it use USB devices automatically and specify a control 
socket in the options to gpsd: '-F /var/run/gpsd.sock'. The control socket path 
is hardcoded in the hotplug script (/lib/udev/gpsd.hotplug). After 
dpkg-reconfigure, /etc/defaults/gpsd should have the following settings:
   START_DAEMON=true
   DAEMON_OPTS=-F /var/run/gpsd.sock
   DEVICES=
   USBAUTO=true

** Affects: gpsd (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New

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[Bug 388995] Re: gpsd checks on obsolete /proc/bus/usb/devices

2009-06-18 Thread ceg
 But at the end I'd expect that the garmin stuff is just removed from
gpsd.

Yes, when the garmin_gps module or a garmin-userspace-driver layer that
can use libusb provides a serial tty device for gpsd, the garmin stuff
should probably be removed from gpsd.

(For devices that don't provide NMEA, the driver might do the conversion
to the garmin-serial binary protocoll or NMEA instead of gpsd.)

In any case in the meantime at least the bugs #388917, #388995 and
#389020 now document the problem and workaround for garmin usb devices.

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[Bug 367197] Re: gpsd depends on nonexistent /lib/udev/hotplug.functions

2009-06-17 Thread ceg
When this bug is a regression from changes made to udev, is full on in
9.04 and needs syncing from the well and completely maintainded debian
package, how can it be marked incomplete?

** Changed in: gpsd (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 379335] [NEW] pam_umask is missing a pam-auth-profile

2009-05-22 Thread ceg
Public bug reported:

pam_umask is the new and only facility to set the umask consistently for
different login shells, X, ssh, cron, ... .

But, pam_umask is not called in common-session. Instead the old
workaround since the introduction of pam once broke the login.defs UMASK
setting is still used (setting an umask in /etc/profile and
unset/default umasks otherwhere).

The line session optional pam_umask.so will need to be in /etc/pam.d
/common-session in any case. You can use pam-auth-profile to make it at
option.

With the line session optional pam_umask.so usergroups even the user
private group scheme is supported (if pam_umask can confirm the privacy
of the group).

** Affects: pam (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New

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[Bug 379341] [NEW] remove/comment /etc/profile umask setting

2009-05-22 Thread ceg
Public bug reported:

Binary package hint: base-files

Setting the umask in /etc/profile only works for some shells. It was
introduced into debian as a workaround, when the switch from login to
PAM broke the UMASK setting in /etc/login.defs.

Since recently pam_umask is included in pam, and provides a central
facility with user overrides to set a consistent umask again.

In /etc/profile please comment:

# umask 022
# Setting a fixed umask in shell configuration files was only a workaround.
# It is no longer needed and should not be done since the umask can be 
# set consistently with PAM. (See man pam_umask.)

** Affects: base-files (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New

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[Bug 71295] Re: /etc/login.defs umask cleanup

2009-05-22 Thread ceg
The comments in /etc/login.defs really need to be updated.

Here is an updated version of the section on login configuration
initialisation:

--8- cut here --
#
# Login configuration initializations:
#
#   ERASECHAR   Terminal ERASE character ('\010' = backspace).
#   KILLCHARTerminal KILL character ('\025' = CTRL/U).
#   UMASK   Default umask value.
#
# The ERASECHAR and KILLCHAR are used only on System V machines.
# Prefix these values with 0 to get octal, 0x to get hexadecimal.
#
ERASECHAR   0177
KILLCHAR025
#
# On PAM-enabled systems pam_umask uses UMASK as a global default.
# (Global and per user overrides are possible, see man pam_umask.)
# Therefore setting the umask in shell rc files (i.e. /etc/profile and
# others) is discouraged in favour of the pam_umask mechanism.
#
# On non-PAM systems setting the umask in shell rc files, in addition
# to the UMASK setting here, can catches some more classes of user
# entries to system. (Logins through su, cron, ssh etc.)
# At the same time, using shell rc to set umask won't catch entries which use
# non-shell executables in place of login shell, like /usr/sbin/pppd for ppp
# user and alike.
# For discussion, see #314539 and #248150 as well as the thread starting at
# http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/06/msg01598.html
#
#
# UMASK 022 is the historical value in Debian,
# 027 or even 077 could be considered better for privacy if the users
# in their groups can not trust each other. There is no 
# One True Answer here: Each sysadmin must make up his/her mind.
# 
# Note that with login's USERGROUPS_ENAB feature, or the usergroups
# feature of pam_umask, if a user has a user private group
# the user's group permission umask byte is adjusted to match 
# the user permission byte.
# This enables flawless collaboration of users in group directories
UMASK   022

--8---

** Changed in: shadow (Ubuntu)
   Status: Invalid = Confirmed

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[Bug 245210] Re: login.defs references libpam-umask which is a obsolete package

2009-05-22 Thread ceg
jaunty no longer has this

** Changed in: shadow (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = Fix Released

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[Bug 71295] Re: /etc/login.defs umask cleanup

2009-05-22 Thread ceg
The cleanup may actually be more than a wishlist item, because
login.defs wrongly points out not to set UMASK and has leaves it
commented out. (As was correct when pam_umask did not parse it.)

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[Bug 246192] Re: gksu to regular users broken

2009-05-22 Thread ceg

Still no gksu functionality to run apps as a differnt user (other then root) in 
ubuntu 9.04.

(i.e. no way to quickly check your own email on the computer running all
day at the reception  with the account used by all the receptionists for
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[Bug 379397] [NEW] kuser is violating debian policy

2009-05-22 Thread ceg
Public bug reported:

Binary package hint: kdeadmin

All user/group managment tools have to rely on the adduser/useradd
mechanism.

But kuser is not even following the same rules when creating
users/groups.

** Affects: kdeadmin (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New

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[Bug 379399] [NEW] kuser ignores umask when creating homedirs

2009-05-22 Thread ceg
Public bug reported:

Binary package hint: kdeadmin

New homedirs get drwx-- permissions.

(Instead of honoring the default drwxr-xr-x adduser setting. It is not
using the adduser mechanism as stated by debian policy.)

** Affects: kdeadmin (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New

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[Bug 379399] Re: kuser ignores umask when creating homedirs

2009-05-22 Thread ceg
Debian policy states: Packages other than base-passwd must not modify
/etc/passwd, /etc/shadow, /etc/group or /etc/gshadow.
(http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-opersys.html#s9.2)

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[Bug 379406] [NEW] kuser ignores /etc/skel

2009-05-22 Thread ceg
Public bug reported:

Binary package hint: kdeadmin

kuser creates subdirecories in the homes, mimiking other OSes behaviour,
but /etc/skel is not used for this.

Instead /etc/skel might provide pub/, priv/ and incoming/ directories with 
correct permissions.
And /home/groups/users/writable and /home/groups/users/readonly may be provided.

Debian policy states: Packages other than base-passwd must not modify
/etc/passwd, /etc/shadow, /etc/group or /etc/gshadow.
(http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-opersys.html#s9.2)

** Affects: kdeadmin (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New

** Summary changed:

- kmail ignores /etc/skel
+ kuser ignores /etc/skel

** Description changed:

  Binary package hint: kdeadmin
  
- kmail creates subdirecories in the homes, mimiking other OSes behaviour,
+ kuser creates subdirecories in the homes, mimiking other OSes behaviour,
  but /etc/skel is not used for this.
  
  Instead /etc/skel might provide pub/, priv/ and incoming/ directories with 
correct permissions.
  And /home/groups/users/writable and /home/groups/users/readonly may be 
provided.
  
  Debian policy states: Packages other than base-passwd must not modify
  /etc/passwd, /etc/shadow, /etc/group or /etc/gshadow.
  (http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-opersys.html#s9.2)

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[Bug 379421] [NEW] Let groupadd create /home/group/groupname sgid directories

2009-05-22 Thread ceg
Public bug reported:


Let groupadd have the option to create /home/group/groupname sgid directories.

Sgid group directories are the means for users to easily collaborate on
local files with the user private group scheme used in debian/ubuntu.

Graphical tools can then adopt to this addgroup option.

Debian policy states: Packages other than base-passwd must not modify
/etc/passwd, /etc/shadow, /etc/group or /etc/gshadow.
(http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-opersys.html#s9.2)

** Affects: shadow (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New

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[Bug 379431] [NEW] set up a /home/group/users directory

2009-05-22 Thread ceg
Public bug reported:

Binary package hint: user-setup

Set up a sgid /home/group/users directory for the users group if it
doesn't exist, so that users are provided with a way to collaborate on
local files.

This will also seed the answer of how smaller groups can collaborate.

For full control:
The directory can contain private/, public/ and incoming/ subdirectories.
The first two further containing readonly/ and writeable/ directories.

** Affects: user-setup (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New

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[Bug 379431] Re: set up a /home/group/users directory

2009-05-22 Thread ceg
The following example might be further enhanced:

root:group (rwxrwsr-t) /home/share/group
root:group (rwsrwsrwt) /home/share/group/incoming
root:group (rwxrwx---) /home/share/group/private

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[Bug 379421] Re: Let groupadd create /home/group/groupname sgid directories

2009-05-22 Thread ceg
The following example might be further enhanced:

root:group (rwxrwsr-t) /home/share/group
root:group (rwsrwsrwt) /home/share/group/incoming
root:group (rwxrwx---) /home/share/group/private

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[Bug 379451] [NEW] provide /etc/skel/private/ and incoming/ dirs

2009-05-22 Thread ceg
Public bug reported:

Binary package hint: base-files

Please provide the directories /etc/skel/private (rwx--) and
/etc/skel/incoming with appropriate permissions.

In the user private group scheme used in debian/ubuntu the homedirs are
created with permissions allowing the users to share and access files in
each others home directories.

These two directories will provide the users with a private space and a
possibility give and receive files to/from other users.

The following wiki page contains more information and ties together related 
bugs.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultiUserManagement

** Affects: base-files (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New

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[Bug 253096] Re: pam_umask.so missing in common-session

2009-05-22 Thread ceg
The following wiki page now contains more information and ties together related 
bugs.
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultiUserManagement

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[Bug 379431] Re: set up a /home/group/users directory

2009-05-22 Thread ceg
The following wiki page now contains more information and ties together related 
bugs.
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[Bug 379341] Re: remove/comment /etc/profile umask setting

2009-05-22 Thread ceg
The following wiki page now contains more information and ties together related 
bugs.
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[Bug 252351] Re: provide some info about users and file permissions

2009-05-22 Thread ceg
The following wiki page now contains more information and ties together related 
bugs.
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[Bug 253103] Re: users not belonging to users group

2009-05-22 Thread ceg
The following wiki page now contains more information and ties together related 
bugs.
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[Bug 379421] Re: Let groupadd create /home/group/groupname sgid directories

2009-05-22 Thread ceg
The following wiki page now contains more information and ties together related 
bugs.
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[Bug 379335] Re: pam_umask is missing a pam-auth-profile

2009-05-22 Thread ceg
The following wiki page now contains more information and ties together related 
bugs.
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultiUserManagement

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[Bug 246192] Re: gksu to regular users broken

2009-05-22 Thread ceg
The following wiki page now contains more information and ties together related 
bugs.
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[Bug 71295] Re: /etc/login.defs umask cleanup

2009-05-22 Thread ceg
The following wiki page now contains more information and ties together related 
bugs.
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[Bug 253096] Re: pam_umask.so missing in common-session

2009-05-21 Thread ceg
Please include a pam-auth-profile to support the user private group
theme.

So that a debconf setting will put the line
session optional pam_umask.so usergroups
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[Bug 367814] Re: LD_LIBRARY_PATH settings in /etc/profile lost

2009-05-21 Thread ceg
PAM may be more appropriate then shell rc files (etc/pam.d)

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[Bug 367814] Re: LD_LIBRARY_PATH settings in /etc/profile lost

2009-05-21 Thread ceg
See man pam_env,  /etc/security/pam_env.conf and  /etc/environment for
a solution to your problem.

If gdm used to source /etc/profile, and now stopped this misbehaviour,
that is good.

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[Bug 367814] Re: LD_LIBRARY_PATH settings in /etc/profile lost

2009-05-21 Thread ceg
Hope the solution above helps to understand this bug as invalid?
Shell config files are supposed to work only for (even specific) shells, pam is 
more a global method.

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[Bug 367814] Re: LD_LIBRARY_PATH settings in /etc/profile lost

2009-05-21 Thread ceg
Hope the solution above helps to understand this bug as invalid?
Shell config files are supposed to work only for (even specific) shells, pam is 
more a global method.

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[Bug 379233] [NEW] cp preserves mode with --no-preserve=mode

2009-05-21 Thread ceg
Public bug reported:

Binary package hint: coreutils


Example: copying files from CD/vfat/etc. into the filesystem.

The files (all) will keep their executable bit and stay read only.

Even with the --no-preserver=mode option the current umask is ignored
(or only used in a substracting way when creating the new copy), instead
of using the umask for newly created files.

** Affects: coreutils (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New

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[Bug 253282] Re: Links retrieved over dns-sd (service discovery) not working

2008-11-12 Thread ceg
Oh, hi,
To browse dns service discovery entries click the button on the right from the 
K in the Controlbar (Kicker), then choose Network and then Network Services. 
Or in Dophin it is: system:/remote/zeroconf/

** Changed in: kdebase (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 252336] Re: error behaviour with multiple partions on one disk

2008-11-12 Thread ceg
Hi, thanks for the reply.

There seems to be at least two ways to mount partitions automatically.
One is the hotplug system mounts  partitions, the other is it the
partition is mentioned in fstab and gets mounted during boot.

 1. the specific steps or actions you took that caused you to encounter the 
problem,
I booted the system from a /boot partition that was on an USB device.
 
 3. the behavior you actually encountered (in as much detail as possible).
After boot the /boot partition was mounted because it is mentioned in fstab 
(uuid),
the other partitions were mounted like hotplug devices.
Then I wanted to remove the USB device. 
(I was not aware of /boot being mounted differently)
So I right-clicked on one of the icons that stood for a partitions that resided 
on the USB device to have it unmounted. (And with it all the other partitions 
on the same device.)  (It was not the /boot partition.)
This gave an error message that I don't remember any more, but it did not point 
me to the /boot partition at all.
Only after inspecting the output from mount did I notice the mounted  /boot 
partition and could I unmount it on the console.
So the error message I saw was probably related to the hotplugging system not 
being able to unmount the /boot partition.

2. the behavior you expected
I'm not sure. The wish I formulated earlier was to display all partitions that 
reside on the same device in a subfolder on the desktop. For one, that way 
there would not be so much mess on the desktop with multiple hotplug disks 
attatched that contain several partitions. And second, I might have 
right-clicked on the folder (diskdevice) to unmount all partitions, and even if 
the error message did not help me, I might have noticed the /boot partition 
still mounted inside the folder afterwards. 

 4. you mention an error message; what is the exact wording?
I'm sorry I don't remember. But I hope I could clarify what the problem was, 
even though it said somthing different.

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[Bug 253319] Re: rename files instead of deleting and copying again.

2008-09-18 Thread ceg
Thank you for checking the command line.

Well, this may then be a UI bug, now.

** Summary changed:

- rename files instead of deleting and copying again.
+ UI not showing xferbycopying feature (renaming instead of deleting and 
retransfering)

** Description changed:

- Binary package hint: unison
+ Binary package hint: unison version 2.27.57
  
  
  When files gets renamed in replica A, unison shows that the original file is 
getting deleted in replica B and the renamed file is copied again.
+ 
+ (even though new feature xferbycopying should be true by default)
  
  This is particulary unfortunate with picture archives, as they get more
  often renamed but less often is the file contents changed.
  
  Can't unison queue the cases that look like filedeletions, and at the
  end, check if they have not just been renamed? And if that is true, just
  rename the file in the other replica without retransmitting all the
  files?
  
  Maybe this mechanism could also catch the programmed data loss mentioned
  under invariants in the documentation (moving a directory with ignored
  items).

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[Bug 253319] Re: rename files instead of deleting and copying again.

2008-09-16 Thread ceg
(Tested with two local replicas.)

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[Bug 253319] Re: rename files instead of deleting and copying again.

2008-09-16 Thread ceg
Manual says:
xferbycopying: The default value istrue.

But the GUI does not seem to indicate that a renamed file will be copied:
(a: file /b: absent)
(a: deleted / b: u nchanged file)

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[Bug 253319] Re: rename files instead of deleting and copying again.

2008-09-16 Thread ceg
Oh very good, the changelog sounds just like what I was thinking about.
Is this enabled by default?

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[Bug 268580] Re: Prompt for BOOT_DEGRADED=true|false in thre

2008-09-11 Thread ceg
When a disk fails in a running system a raid will run degraded. The
System doesn't stop, and probably should't. The mdadm notification
functionality brings this to the admins attention.

So changing the default to bootdegraded=yes seems reasonable, once the
patches are tested to work with enough configurations, and will be safe,
if no other md devices than the ones neccessary to set up the fstab are
touched.

(This is when mdadm --incremental is used in udev rules and only
specific raids will be run even degraded on boot with mdadm --run
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[Bug 253103] Re: users not belonging to users group

2008-08-23 Thread ceg
Just to state that I am indifferent wether this is fixed with pam_group
or by adding to the default groups in adduser.

pam_group wouldn't intruduce much redundant info and fix existing
systems/users, too.

real group memberships would work for cron/at jobs? (But maybe they use
pam session I don't know.)

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[Bug 244838] Re: remove laptop-mode settings from /etc/default/acpi-support

2008-08-19 Thread ceg
Yes, /etc/default/laptop_mode seems more sane as a second config file
for laptop-mode-tools.

As you mentioned in Bug #250935 we have to keep in mind that enabling
the laptop-mode-tools by default is in fact a necessary change to fix
the load cycling issue for example.

IMHO laptop-mode-tools needs to be enabled by default.
(/etc/default/laptop_mode does provide a place to optionally disable
this autoinstalled package alltogether.)

Whether laptop_mode (ENABLE_LAPTOP_MODE_ON_BATTERY) is enabled or not by
default is another question.

Since hardy, as a userfriendly distro suitable for laptops, has allways
set /proc/sys/vm/laptop_mode to 2 when on battery (laptop-tools script
hacked into pm-utils) I'd tend to propose that the laptop-mode.conf
default (_ON_BATTERY=1) can just be kept. It steps in for the pm-utils
script that got removed in intrepid.

Enabling laptop-mode-tools can be considered a necessary bugfix change,
and not entering /proc/sys/vm/laptop_mode on battery any more can be
considered a regression.

Looks as this would also make much transition magic unnecessary. The
comment that debian packages have in place might suffice.

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[Bug 250935] Re: [intrepid] laptop-mode-tools needs to change its default settings to match acpi-support and add hooks for pm-utils

2008-08-19 Thread ceg
Alexey, you did good in making the patch acceptable. (And since you had
success, even better!)

So second step would be to flip the settings the right way.

hdparm -B254 needs to be reintroduced because bug #172282 has changed
that setting in the meantime.

(Yann who reported 254 did not work for him might very well have
suffered from /etc/acpi/power.sh messing around. I happen to have a WD
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[Bug 172282] Re: laptop-mode-tools uses hparm -B 255 instead of 254

2008-08-19 Thread ceg
Reopening.

hdparm -B value 254 needs to be reintroduced because the fix to bug
#250935 ([intrepid] laptop-mode-tools needs to change its default
settings to match acpi-support and add hooks for pm-utils) has migrated
the old 255 setting from acpi-support into laptop-mode-tools.

** Changed in: laptop-mode-tools (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 120375] Re: cannot boot raid1 with only one disk

2008-08-18 Thread ceg
Dustin, you could have open a separate bug with your debconf patch to
track your work and at the same time keep the comunity updated and able
to give you feedback in a more organized manner.

 the default being BOOT_DEGRADED=false, which is the
conservative/traditional behavior.

Only some may consider this conservative behaviour a broken behavior,
when a system on a redundant array of independent disks will degrade
just fine when running, but won't even come up when booting.

The reason for all this restrictivity with starting arrays comes from
those start up scripts that use(ed) mdadm --assemble --scan to start
arrays. Those run whatever (partially) connected arrays they can get
hold of (in degraded mode).

IMHO the right thing for start up scripts to do is to only start arrays that 
are needed to set up the root device and fstab, and degrade only them after a 
timeout.
(/usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/cryptroot contains code to determine devices 
that the root device depends on.)

Hotplugging can start any arrays afterwards, if it is completely
attatched.


The homehost feature is one suboptimal attempt to restrict array assembly. 
Same with the restriction with DEVICE or ARRAY definitions in mdadm.conf. Such 
restrictions add extra configuration burdens and should not be necessary with 
start up scripts that just correctly honor the root device and fstab 
information.

In fact the homehost, and ARRAY restrictions prevent the hotplugging
from beeing any better than manual configuration. Arrays still have to
be configured in mdadm.conf (Bug #252345) .

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[Bug 120375] Re: cannot boot raid1 with only one disk

2008-08-18 Thread ceg

Wow, Dustin we again wrote or comments almost simultaneously. Thank you for 
separating the issue.

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[Bug 120375] Re: cannot boot raid1 with only one disk

2008-08-18 Thread ceg
I have separated out the issue of booting with degraded non-root arrays
into Bug# 259145.

As a user merely helping to gather info I can't say if updates to hardy
(ubuntu 8.04) will be made available. Dustin?

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[Bug 244838] Re: laptop-mode needs to be activated in /etc/default/acpi-support

2008-08-18 Thread ceg

Yes, I think you are right. Since the laptop-mode messing has fortunately been 
removed from acpi-support the setting is obsoleted there and serves only for 
confusion.

Alexey wrote:

It's interesting to know that current acpi-support in Debian unstable
(1.109-5) has this comment in /etc/default/acpi-support:

# Note: to enable laptop mode (to spin down your hard drive for longer
# periods of time), install the laptop-mode-tools package and configure
# it in /etc/laptop-mode/laptop-mode.conf.
#
# (Note to upgraders: earlier versions of the acpi-support package contained
# an option to enable/disable laptop mode. This option has never actually
# worked, and for that reason it has been removed.)
(https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/250938/comments/5)

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This issue can be fixed  when laptop-mode-tools and acpi-support from
Debian is merged.

package laptop-mode-tools:
/etc/init.d/laptop-mode: drop sourcing of /etc/default/acpi-support (another 
packages conffile)

package acpi-support:
/etc/default/acpi-support: remove the ENABLE_LAPTOP_MODE setting and don't 
supress the above comment.

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[Bug 250935] Re: [intrepid] laptop-mode-tools needs to change its default settings to match acpi-support and add hooks for pm-utils

2008-08-18 Thread ceg
Thank you for your comments.

Then the current state  I see in intrepid is this:

- You still need to ENABLE_LAPTOP_MODE=1 in /etc/default/acpi-support
(Bug 244838)

- The /etc/laptop-mode/laptop-mode.conf default hdparm -B value has been
changed from 254 to 255.

This may be OK for consistency of the current state, but 254 is actually needed 
for many laptop harddisks to stop load cycling. (hdparm -B255 turns off the 
disk's apm feature, but this only turns off the spin down timer in many disks 
and doesn't increase the head parking timer at all, which is the issue here.)
(Added that info to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerManagement)

Laptop-mode has always shipped with the sane defaults like 254. I see no
real reason to keep suboptimal defaults from the ubuntu hack. The
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[Bug 244838] Re: laptop-mode needs to be activated in /etc/default/acpi-support

2008-08-18 Thread ceg

When resposibility is reestablished for /etc/laptop-mode/laptop-mode.conf the 
ENABLE_LAPTOP_MODE_ON_BATTERY=yes default from debian's laptop-mode package 
will and can enable laptop_mode when on batteries, no problem.

Package pm-utils has had a hacked laptop-tools script in hardy all the time 
that did just that.
See https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pm-utils/+bug/239419/comments/5

** Summary changed:

- laptop-mode needs to be activated in /etc/default/acpi-support
+ remove laptop-mode settings from /etc/default/acpi-support

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[Bug 59695] Re: High frequency of load/unload cycles on some hard disks may shorten lifetime

2008-08-18 Thread ceg

Hi,
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerManagement has been updated to respect the fixes 
for intrepid (ubuntu 8.10).

You currently still need to follow the steps mentioned there for hardy
(ubuntu 8.04) installs.

(I guess Vincenzo Ciancia  who reported his issues where fixed with
recent hardy updates experienced a different bug.)

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[Bug 120375] Re: cannot boot raid1 with only one disk

2008-08-18 Thread ceg
Dustin, you could have open a separate bug with your debconf patch to
track your work and at the same time keep the comunity updated and able
to give you feedback in a more organized manner.

 the default being BOOT_DEGRADED=false, which is the
conservative/traditional behavior.

Only some may consider this conservative behaviour a broken behavior,
when a system on a redundant array of independent disks will degrade
just fine when running, but won't even come up when booting.

The reason for all this restrictivity with starting arrays comes from
those start up scripts that use(ed) mdadm --assemble --scan to start
arrays. Those run whatever (partially) connected arrays they can get
hold of (in degraded mode).

IMHO the right thing for start up scripts to do is to only start arrays that 
are needed to set up the root device and fstab, and degrade only them after a 
timeout.
(/usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/cryptroot contains code to determine devices 
that the root device depends on.)

Hotplugging can start any arrays afterwards, if it is completely
attatched.


The homehost feature is one suboptimal attempt to restrict array assembly. 
Same with the restriction with DEVICE or ARRAY definitions in mdadm.conf. Such 
restrictions add extra configuration burdens and should not be necessary with 
start up scripts that just correctly honor the root device and fstab 
information.

In fact the homehost, and ARRAY restrictions prevent the hotplugging
from beeing any better than manual configuration. Arrays still have to
be configured in mdadm.conf (Bug #252345) .

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[Bug 120375] Re: cannot boot raid1 with only one disk

2008-08-18 Thread ceg

Wow, Dustin we again wrote or comments almost simultaneously. Thank you for 
separating the issue.

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[Bug 259127] Re: mdadm debconf configuration for boot_degraded=true|false

2008-08-18 Thread ceg
 the default being BOOT_DEGRADED=false, which is the
conservative/traditional behavior.

Only some may consider this conservative behaviour a broken behavior,
when a system on a redundant array of independent disks will degrade
just fine when running, but won't even come up when booting.

The reason for all this restrictivity with starting arrays comes from
those start up scripts that use(ed) mdadm --assemble --scan to start
arrays. Those run whatever (partially) connected arrays they can get
hold of (in degraded mode).

IMHO the right thing for start up scripts to do is to only start arrays that 
are needed to set up the root device and fstab, and degrade only them after a 
timeout.
(/usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/cryptroot contains code to determine devices 
that the root device depends on.)

Hotplugging can start any arrays afterwards, if it is completely
attatched.

The homehost feature is one suboptimal attempt to restrict array
assembly. Same with the restriction with DEVICE or ARRAY definitions in
mdadm.conf. Such restrictions add extra configuration burdens and should
not be necessary with start up scripts that just correctly honor the
root device and fstab information.

In fact the homehost, and ARRAY restrictions prevent the hotplugging
from beeing any better than manual configuration. Arrays still have to
be configured in mdadm.conf (Bug #252345) .

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The default can be BOOT_DEGRADED=true, if the boot scripts refrain from
using the depreceated mdadm --assemble --scan and selectively mdadm
--run /dev/device.

more info on:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootDegradedRaid

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[Bug 259145] [NEW] home array not run when degraded on boot

2008-08-18 Thread ceg
Public bug reported:

Binary package hint: mdadm


It is said that the intrepid fix to Bug #120375 added support to mdadm and 
initramfs-tools for configurable booting degraded RAIDs, but a systems with 
/home on a degraded array doesn't come up.

The particular array needs to be mdadm --run /dev/md1 after the fsck
fails and the user is dropped to a console.

A regular init script like /etc/init.d/mdadm-degrade (run earlier than
mdadm) is missing that will run necessary arrays if they are degraded.

(/usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/cryptroot contains code that may be
usefull to determine devices that the fstab depends on.)

** Affects: mdadm (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New

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[Bug 259145] Re: home array not run when degraded on boot

2008-08-18 Thread ceg
This issue has been separated out from Bug #120375 in order to track it 
separately.
(Don't mark this as a duplicate, like 4 others before.)

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[Bug 120375] Re: cannot boot raid1 with only one disk

2008-08-18 Thread ceg
I have separated out the issue of booting with degraded non-root arrays
into Bug# 259145.

As a user merely helping to gather info I can't say if updates to hardy
(ubuntu 8.04) will be made available. Dustin?

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[Bug 259152] [NEW] lm-profiler: non-informational output with raid systems

2008-08-18 Thread ceg
Public bug reported:

Binary package hint: laptop-mode-tools


When the filesystem is on a raid device lm-profiler only reports only disk 
access by a process called md0_raid1 (the md module).

Unfortunately this information does not help in identifying the
processes that actually causes the disk access.

** Affects: laptop-mode-tools (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New

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[Bug 253283] Re: OK buttons in profile wizard reversed

2008-08-09 Thread ceg
Thank you for the screenshots. The button order also seems reversed in
the subsequent windows to create new profiles. I noticed this because I
kept hitting cancel after entering the info.

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[Bug 250938] Re: acpi-support should let laptop-mode-tools run properly

2008-08-09 Thread ceg

Alexey!
I'd like to say thank you.
For providing patches to the laptop-mode related things in ubuntu.
It was good to see your work apear.

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[Bug 250935] Re: [intrepid] laptop-mode-tools needs to change its default settings to match acpi-support and add hooks for pm-utils

2008-08-09 Thread ceg

Hi Tormod,
you asked:

3. Are some fixes needed in the pm-utils package as well?
Can you reference other bug reports (with patches)?

I do remeber two things, first Bug #239419 (pm-utils)
  pm-utils has laptop-tools script which conflicts with laptop-mode-tools
has been wrongly set as a duplicate of this bug, but is actually messing with 
laptop-mode-tools job.

IMHO the cleanest (and non misleading) fix would be to just remove the
/usr/lib/pm-utils/power.d/laptop-tools script from pm-tools. (laptop-
mode-tools does all that in a configurable way)

And as Alexey has pointed out in a comment, as this script has (and
currently is) setting   /proc/sys/vm/laptop_mode unconditionaly. So it
is tested is may be time now to enable laptop-mode by default with
package laptop-mode-tools. (It will still only activate laptop-mode on
battery by default.)

But then finally Bug #59695  (High frequency of load/unload cycles on some hard 
disks may shorten lifetime) can be fixed. Simply by enabling 
CONTROL_HD_POWERMGMT=1 in laptop-mode.conf.
The NOLM_AC_HD_POWERMGMT=254 setting that is present will then disable head 
parking by default.

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[Bug 252351] Re: provide some info about users and file permissions

2008-08-09 Thread ceg
Thank you for reassigning the bug.

Yes, the info should really be in the documentation, too.

I have filed this from practice. Many support requests deal with (new,
aka ex windows) users that have installed ubuntu not able to easily
collaborate with other users on their ubuntu installation.

The explanation screen is almost empty when setting up the initial user
account, and the question arises in new users What,... is this good
for? The info should not prevent people to get though the installer as
quickly as possible. But it will set the caucious first time installers
right on track, just when they have taken the time to install their
system. (They won't read docs on this later on, but complain about not
being able to collaborate on ubuntu.)

It might be possible to make this even more brief, if for example group
directories will be created with new groups by default.

ubuntu is linux for humans
It's not about how to fiddle with unix file permissions, but how to collaborate 
in an debian/ubuntu setting.

FYI the issue of users not belonging to users group is now separated out into 
Bug #253103
(Please comment if you think that that is a bug that needs fixing, as there is 
some hesitance.)

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[Bug 253096] Re: pam_umask.so missing in common-session

2008-08-01 Thread ceg

The wording of man pam_umask seems pretty much the same as what used to be in 
login.defs before.
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?msg=10;filename=login.defs.diff;att=1;bug=282822

I have also made the experience that some graphical user managment tools
do not keep gids eqal to uids and that tools create subdirecories in the
homes, mimiking other OSes behaviour, but /etc/skel is not used for
this.  The writers of desktop environment tools do not seem to allways
follow unix philosophy. I noticed debian policy states: Packages other
than base-passwd must not modify /etc/passwd, /etc/shadow, /etc/group or
/etc/gshadow. (http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-
opersys.html#s9.2)


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Just as you write, configuring pam_umask to provide unified means to set the 
umask for all sessions does not yet automatically (re)enhence default 
permission handling.

If the default umask enables easy usability of permission handling, or
does pretty much not support it, it should maybe be less the the result
of the shiped pam implementation and adhere to the all time shiped
configuration. (USERGROUPS_ENAB yes) Which grants 002 only if it's
pretty safe and a feature, many times reported to not work properly and
hacked around. (Even though many ubuntu users may have never noticed,
and may just think file permissions just allways are like an inflexible
pita style thing.)

As the user groups created by default have all the time been private
ones, it should be pretty save to let the 022-002 mapping do its work
for them. The corner case being of course those that are really using
sticky sgid directories without actually figuring out to change the
umask. Meaning those that manually change filepermissions every time to
be able to collaborate with other users, even when they decide to
expicitly save stuff into special group places instead of saving into
more private (sub)dirs.

If we find a good name for that behaviour, we could actually provide
sticky non-sgid subdirectory examples to publish something readonly
within a group.

(Does /home/share/group/writings /home/share/group/readings compare
to /home/user/private?)

From the point of the implemented private user groups, if you want that
other members of a group can work on a file together with you, they need
to be in a group with them and you have to save the file into a special
setgid directory, if not keep the file at home, in a private place if
you don't want others to be able to read it.

For shared write access you save it under the (sgid) group directory.
This seems to be the feature and having to fiddle with file permissions
is bugging users.

Private user groups with umask 002 and a nice set of default directories
are quite a feature, I would say. They should be save as long as
filessystems are not transfered verbatim to systems with other group
setups, but then, when transfering filesystems to other machines one
allways has to watch for differences in IDs, anyway. All copy processes
should honor the umask on the target systems, if not explicitly
overridden to preserve permissions and numerical ids.

Maybe I just don't understand that much of the private user group
approach that I see it as  quite important to provide it for ubuntu
users to easily share and lock up files by choosing the location and not
having to fiddle with file permissions. From experience though, I've
gotton complaints about those ever complicated and never satisfying
file permissions, and wishes to just do away with them, but with
private user groups, umask 002, the almost self explanatory fact that
access depends on the location where you put stuff (directiory) _and_
file permissions, and by providing some (sample) directories, users
fiddling and getting fed up with filepermissions gets allmost a non
issue. Ok, just save that privately in our ... group dir
(/home/share/.../private), I'll take care of it! (Hmm, you made me
think of grouip/writings now and I seem to like that idea.)

What would be another way to provide good collaboration experience?

If ubuntu really allways intended to ship current user and file
permission setup with that umask, and the 022 setting in effect together
with USERGROUPS_ENAB yes has not been just a result one wasn't
particularily aware of, stemming from the once missing pam
functionallity, waiting for a fix, and admins adjusting umask settings
for multi user systems, what is the reason to ship private user groups?

Comparing to umask 022 systems with all users belonging to the users
group, users do not only have to manualy give write permission, to say
to the users group in the simpliest case, but also need to change the
group ownership on any file to collaboorate on it with others. (Note
that its asumed the users group is usable and not empty.)

This state does not look too consistent and in the best interest of the
users to me, and might be just due to an unfortunate effect that the
introduction of pam once had in debian.


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[Bug 253103] Re: users not belonging to users group

2008-08-01 Thread ceg

I agree, there are of course much more fine grained methods than the group of 
all users. And to be honest when adminstering larger systems the users group is 
probably not good for much more then giving all users write access to some 
device, or to files that are served on the net. Now, it's not unlikely that, as 
you are familiar with things like creating groups and adequate directory 
hierachies or ACLs, we tend to just go directly to what we know exists.

When we think more like a beginner, as new to the GNU of linux, or how
we often get to know things, they may not be aquainted with directory
and file permissions etc. at first. But if we asume for a moment we see
a directory called /home/share/users with a private subdirectory, where
all users of a family computer can put stuff for all to update and
modify. (Possibly including group/writings and group/readings
subdirs.) It's foreseeable that finer grained group control might come
to mind at some point. But then the answer is allready there, too. The
next thoughts are special user groups, how the group direcotries are
used is already old news then.

In a sense the users group is the only group that can be set up by
default, to work with right away and it serves as a seed. It is already
there, usable if not just left empty and visible with a users group
directory, for human beings to discover the logic of file permissions.

And its a reasonable answer to the question: I can easily share files
around the globe, but how do I share files with my honney who has
another account on our ubuntu machine at home?

Though, it is a little addition, using pam_group for this should be
rather light on ressources and not make any server without users or
really large multi-user setups run less perfect. (And keep /etc/group
(or ldap etc.) less cluttered.)

As a modern distribution, oriented towards usability, ubuntu of course
used pam from the start, it may just feel like a regression for users
were able to use unix file permissions that way for ages.

Without the users group the easiest but not recomendable way is to
resort to the bad habit of granting world write access.

There is no risk associated with users belonging to the users group, or
is there?

Honestly, I did consider fixing users not belonging to the users group
a non-issue. Just somthing that has been forgotten at some point of
time.

I consider the users group as a feature that can be used but does not
have to. But if it is to be used it has to be set up to contain all
users, there is no other way around it.

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