[Bug 264019] Re: unable to visit some websites and ftpsites with 2.6.27

2008-10-25 Thread eviltwin
Just to clarify on my point above, what Nick said about it being people
who aren't technically minded being affected by this is what I was
attempting to show. On mass, the people who are affected by this will be
users who don't read the release notes (I often don't bother, for
example, only when downloading RC builds do I generally do that). That
means that saying "oh well all they have to do is sudo blah and it will
all work" is absolutely pointless. This gives the worst out of the box
experience for any linux converts and I am anticipating my girlfriend
ringing me at the end of the month because she's upgraded her laptop and
the internet no longer works...

If you truly care about ubuntu being "linux for human beings" then you
will delay the release to get this fixed - having network access is one
of the most fundamental features of the distro. How many threads in the
forums are you anticipating seeing of people who can't be bothered to
search the forums, don't read the release notes and seem to have
internet access issues? (assuming they can get to the forums!)

Let's look at the release notes. First, the description isn't /technically/ 
accurate: the issue isn't a result of tcp timestamping, it's a result of the 
ordering and disabling timestamps happens to fix the issue. So, I'm a home user 
and I'm told I should run the command:
sudo sysctl -w net.ipv4.tcp_timestamps=0
Great, where do I type that? What's this TCP stuff anyway? Those release notes 
are written by devs and clearly target devs at some points, you're just not 
really thinking about who this affects most badly...

As always, feel free to retort my above points...

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[Bug 264019] Re: unable to visit some websites and ftpsites with 2.6.27

2008-10-25 Thread eviltwin
>The kernel fix is known upstream; implementing it requires kernel uploads
>and installer rebuilds, which it's just not possible to fit in between the
>release candidate and the release. We will certainly want to include this
>fix in a kernel update as soon as possible after the release, but this is
>unfortunately in a class of bugs that we can't fix the week of release (even
>turning timestamps off requires a kernel upload, unless we want to
>permanently disable tcp timestamp support for Ubuntu 8.10).

I'm sorry, but just no. You clearly didn't think that through: if they
are affected by this issue then they won't be able to get the updated
kernel, surely you thought of this? The whole point of the release
candidate stage is to catch critical bugs and this bug /is/ critical as
you are prevented from updating your installation and so cannot EVER be
free of the bug short of downloading the packages to USB. Please correct
me if I'm wrong...

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[Bug 93144] Re: Feisty: colors in totem-gstreamer are wrong

2007-04-21 Thread eviltwin
Feisty here, same problem.

ATI drivers from apt version: 7.1.0-8.34.8+2.6.20.5-15.20

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