Re: [Bug 930447] Re: Unable to start Ubuntu 12.04 live CD with syslinux loader on Pentium M x86 Laptop due to bug in PAE kernel, initramfs or syslinux
Hi, My machines (IBM ThinkPad T41, Type 2373-9EU) all claim to be Pentium-M and do NOT support PAE according to the Ubuntu boot message. I do have 2GB (the max without PAE) of DRAM installed. How much simpler is life with PAE-only support? (Since that is the path that was taken, I am hoping that the answer is very trivial to quantify since the work was done and the code base reflects that change). I understand moving ahead, but, to me, this fairly capable 32-bit machine should still be supportable by Ubuntu. I have not tried using CentOS as my desktop yet, but maybe that is an option if I can't get the next LTS (14.04) Ubuntu to boot straight up. Cheers, --ldl ldl@boGus:~$ lsb_release -a No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Ubuntu Description: Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS Release: 12.04 Codename: precise On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Christiansen 930...@bugs.launchpad.netwrote: oliver, I agree with you entirely on your previous comments. The ThinkPad series were rather expensive hardware, and maybe on that account rather long lasting hardware. To this date I'm servicing 5 of these older ThinkPads running 12.04 *buntu, installed using the USB GRUB method described above in this bug. In later *buntus the kernel packages have been deliberately crippled by developers, so it isn't quiet as easy to work around, while you now have to fiddle with the kernel package for installation, and every time a subsequent kernel upgrade happens. I completely agree with the Ubuntu decision to let NON-PAE hardware go, but can't understand why hardware that works absolutely perfect with even the latest (kernel-fixed) versions of *buntu is left out this way. The change in the pre 12.04 kernel packages placing an OBSTRUCTION, is absolutely misplaced. The syslinux bug on the other hand demands bug- fixing work to be done, and we must accept if neither Canonical or the syslinux developer will spend time on that. But what I absolutely don't understand is, that the time used to make the *buntu kernel packages OBSTRUCTION, wasn't spent on fixing syslinux bug instead. A lot of people (ThinkPad among others) would probably have benefitted from this, and even those who don't find this bug rapport, and probably don't know what hit them when trying to install *buntu on their great hardware. Instead they may try another newer bad operating system from around 2007, and find that it just installs and works on their hardware - thus linux or *buntu is just a pain to use, which is hard for us who value open source and linux to argue against. So everybody, except you know who, looses out. -- You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to a duplicate bug report (1029041). https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/930447 Title: Unable to start Ubuntu 12.04 live CD with syslinux loader on Pentium M x86 Laptop due to bug in PAE kernel, initramfs or syslinux Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu: Won't Fix Status in “syslinux” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in Baltix GNU/Linux: Triaged Bug description: Ubuntu 12.04 doesn't start from Desktop CD or USB with syslinux boot loader on Pentium M 1.6Ghz or faster Pentium M CPU - displays error message about missing PAE feature in CPU, but *the same* *Ubuntu 12.04* Desktop CD/LiveUSB starts fine on *the same CPU* (and same PAE kernel) if GRUB boot loader is used, for example when WUBI or LiveUSB with GRUB boot loader, like Multisystem (http://liveusb.info/dotclear/index.php?pages/install ) is used! The error message is: This kernel requires the following features not present on the CPU: pae. Unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for you CPU. THIS IS AN IMPORTANT REGRESSION! People are able to install and successfully use Ubuntu 12.04 on such pretty new hardware, like IBM Thinkpad T42 laptop with Pentium M 1700Mhz processor, but the bug in syslinux (or something related) forbids Ubuntu 12.04 installation. This bug is reproducible on lots of computers, there are several log files and /proc/cpuinfo file attached to this bugreport, AFAIK it's enough to reopen this bug. --- ApportVersion: 1.23-0ubuntu4 Architecture: i386 CurrentDmesg: Error: command ['sh', '-c', 'dmesg | comm -13 --nocheck-order /var/log/dmesg -'] failed with exit code 1: comm: /var/log/dmesg: Permission denied MachineType: IBM 2373PPU dmi.bios.date: 06/18/2007 dmi.bios.vendor: IBM dmi.bios.version: 1RETDRWW (3.23 ) dmi.board.name: 2373PPU dmi.board.vendor: IBM dmi.board.version: Not Available dmi.chassis.asset.tag: No Asset Information dmi.chassis.type: 10 dmi.chassis.vendor: IBM dmi.chassis.version: Not Available dmi.modalias: dmi:bvnIBM:bvr1RETDRWW(3.23):bd06/18/2007:svnIBM:pn2373PPU:pvrThinkPadT42:rvnIBM:rn2373PPU:rvrNotAvailable:cvnIBM:ct10:cvrNotAvailable: dmi.product.name: 2373PPU dmi.product.version: ThinkPad T42 dmi.sys.vendor: IBM To manage
Re: [Bug 1029041] Re: Please create a release for non-pae CPUs
On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 10:04 PM, cariboo907 1029...@bugs.launchpad.netwrote: I removed the tags, as there is no way negative tags like they were help this bug in any way. ** Tags removed: bad-faith hostility-toward-community Greetings, Totally appropriate! Sorry for the level of excitement expressed, but it was a pain that was nicely overcome. Going the mini.iso route was pretty painless. Thank you for your efforts! Cheers, --ldl -- You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1029041 Title: Please create a release for non-pae CPUs Status in “boot” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: It is way premature to require pae hardware for 32-bit. If you are unwilling to create a boot CD that can deal with non-pae hardware, please make it clear and provide a way to continue with Ubuntu. This is a major obstacle for those running as new as we can afford older ThinkPads... Shame on you! This was a very Gatesian move. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/boot/+bug/1029041/+subscriptions -- --- NOTE: If it is important CALL ME - I may miss email, which I do NOT normally check on weekends nor on a regular basis during any other day. --- LD Landis - N0YRQ - de la tierra del encanto 3960 Schooner Loop, Las Cruces, NM 88012 651-340-4007 N32 21'48.28 W106 46'5.80 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1029041 Title: Please create a release for non-pae CPUs To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/boot/+bug/1029041/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 472801] [NEW] T41 overwhelmed by composition - hard hang
Public bug reported: Binary package hint: firefox-3.5 Hi, By default, I had compiz Visual Effects = Normal selected (through Jaunty). When I updated to Karmic, when I would try to start Firefox (or several other applications), my T41 (actually, two of three units) would hang with a mostly translucent trapezoid. No mouse/key press had any effect on anything. I had to power down. I have three T41s running and experienced this on two of the three. The third did not suffer this anomoly. I discovered the only difference was that the working T41 had compiz Visual Effects set to None. When I switched the other two to None, things worked fine. I am running /usr/bin/metacity --replace and getting splendid response on my machine (with Visual Effects = None). Later, on one of the T41s, setting gconf-editor-apps-metacity select compositing_manager ON yielded terrible performace (for Firefox), but it did not crash. Running with compositing_manager OFF, things are great. FWIW, under Intrepid/Jaunty, compiz effects worked but with karmic, it seems to push the capabilities a bit too hard, and ends up freezing. Perhaps the classification of what is discovered in the hardware is over-estimating the capabilities of the machine somewhat. NOTE: When karmic+compiz fails, what happens when I try starting Firefox (for example), a trapezoid shape (small side on bottom) is slightly visible (like the frame is flipping down to vertical) but all (mouse/keyboard have no effect on the cursor or selection of virtual terminal ctl-alt-F#). Only a power down works. l...@bogus:~/FWSLC/Billing-Xylo$ lsb_release -a No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Ubuntu Description:Ubuntu 9.10 Release:9.10 Codename: karmic IBM ThinkPad T41 , model 23743HU ProblemType: Bug Architecture: i386 Date: Tue Nov 3 06:42:18 2009 DistroRelease: Ubuntu 9.10 Package: firefox-3.5 3.5.4+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.9.10.1 ProcEnviron: LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.31-14.48-generic SourcePackage: firefox-3.5 Uname: Linux 2.6.31-14-generic i686 ** Affects: firefox-3.5 (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Tags: apport-bug i386 -- T41 overwhelmed by composition - hard hang https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/472801 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 472801] Re: T41 overwhelmed by composition - hard hang
** Attachment added: Dependencies.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/35032263/Dependencies.txt ** Attachment added: ExtensionSummary.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/35032264/ExtensionSummary.txt ** Attachment added: XsessionErrors.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/35032265/XsessionErrors.txt ** Attachment added: profile_default_pluginreg.dat.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/35032266/profile_default_pluginreg.dat.txt ** Attachment added: profiles.ini.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/35032267/profiles.ini.txt -- T41 overwhelmed by composition - hard hang https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/472801 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
